It seems fairly clear that the Islamic jihadists of al-Shabaab wanted to send a message to the Somali government as it was “wrapping up a three-day conference on improving security in the capital”: that there is nothing the government can do to improve security or stop its jihad, and that the only thing that Somali parliamentarians can do to be safe is surrender and allow al-Shabaab to govern and impose Islamic law in its fullness.
“Second Somali MP killed in Mogadishu in 24 hours,” AGI, April 22 (thanks to C. Cantoni):
(AGI) Mogadishu, April 22 – A Somali lawmaker was assassinated in Mogadishu on Tuesday in the second attack targeting a member of parliament in 24 hours. The attacks, thought to be by the Al Qaeda-linked Islamic rebels of al-Shabaab, come as the government is wrapping up a three-day conference on improving security in the capital. MP Abdiaziz Isak was shot several times in the capital’s Madina district by two armed men, who escaped. On Monday, another lawmaker was killed when a bomb concealed in his vehicle exploded, wounding another MP. . .
RonaldB says
Since the 18th century, it’s not been difficult for the Western countries to keep the Muslim countries at bay. The natural antipathy of Islam to science and creativity assured Western countries of a vast technological superiority, and all they had to do was maintain their borders.
Once Muslims become part of the population, the problem is entirely different. One of the tactics of Islam is to destabilize a society through infiltration and, if necessary, violence and terror. They also excel in subtrefuge, so a Muslim population consumes an inordinate amount of police resources, and still the average citizen is subject to arbitrary intimidation and violence by Muslim gangs who simply don’t recognize the mores of the country they’re in.
It’s best to keep Muslims out altogether. This also gives Muslims the opportunity to practice their religion with no restrictions. They never have to worry about being persecuted by non-Muslims for being Muslim.
The casualty of the careless, cavalier attitude of our lawmakers and population to the threat of Muslim immigration will be our traditional practices of freedom. It’s all very well to stack the decks in favor of the individual as far as government surveillance and prosecution is concerned, but when you get a concerted tolerance by entire communities of harassment of non-Muslims and violence to further sharia, it will become necessary for governments to take steps normally seen as oppressive. This is, of course, a double-edged sword, as Muslims infiltrating a government will be more than happy to take advantage of any powers the government has.
This is all to say, that once a community decides to act in response to Muslim violent subversion, the last thing outside countries should do is to actively interfere with the internal affairs of the community. At some point, the normal rules of law and war don’t apply, and it is ridiculous to insist that a country endanger its own survival to follow arbitrary rules meant for relations between European countries.
Jay Boo says
In reference to:
” One of the tactics of Islam is to destabilize a society through infiltration and, if necessary, violence and terror. ”
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We should seek to destabilize Islam in return by simply revealing its indefensible ideology and making maximum use of its many apostate defectors.
Islam’s victims Muslim and non-Muslim alike are certainly well aware of Islamist tactics and Islam’s underrated vulnerabilities.
ISLAM IS POROUS
Islam is a house of cards built on top of a Ponzi scheme.
Defcon 4 says
Yeah, that’ll work. NOT.
friv says
Great ideas!
Rezali Mehil says
RonaldB says “It’s best to keep Muslims out altogether”.
So ..Mr. Know-it-all…WHY don’t they listen to you. Weren’t the lessons of 9/11 enough for your admin? Indeed your best friends the Brits want to actively keep Mr. Spencer out of their country …something that Mr. Spencer is deeply ashamed about….some people don’t like him…and it distracts his saxophone practice.
Maybe it was an inside job – and the admin don’t want the truth to come out?
Maybe they have too many favors owed to the Sunni?
Maybe it is a subterfuge act to allow America to invade other countries and need pretext.
Maybe YOU need to realize that these are not decisions for the Admin…but that a higher authority ALLAH SWT is making those decisions for them. No part of this duniya is to be forbidden to Allah’s SWT Chosen… but kuffar are too thick to think of it in those terms.
So the likelyhood that YOU or your jam doughnut mates can remove muslims is nil .
A man is said to be in maturity when his hair/beard is a mixture of black/white hairs….food tastes better when salt and pepper is added.
In the same way a community/country is said to be maturing when there are muslims mixed in with the indigenous people. …so I say this to you Ronald…encourage Muslims to settle into your communities…into your streets, into the house next door…or as your son(s)-in-law, ….allow them to father your daughters…spotify…get that salt and pepper mix.
It is the only way for your country to move forward…don’t worry about law and order …halal shops, mosques etc…these will all take care of themselves as part of the maturing process.
Embrace …and you will see the light..”al-noor it” Man.
Don’t wait , there may not be enough space in Jannat, delays will affect your afterlife, and it is not worth the risk.
What say you now Ronald?
More Later….
Rezali
southeuropean says
Rezali,and what about making muslimas as europeans daughters in law? Ohh…I forgot,that is forbidden…haram. Make a step,reform Islam,derogate sharia,which concerns the kuffar
Rezali Mehil says
there you go …you are getting there already…good on you
More Later….
Rezali
southeuropean says
No Rezali. I m the secularist, the tagud, you and everyone else should get here in order to be peace and prosperity. There is no other option in this colorful world.
RonaldB says
Hello, Rezali. I have mixed feelings on your being here. On the one hand, I’m happy you’re engaging us here and making an attempt to be rational. On the other hand, I have to admit you’re making some pretty silly statements.
For example, you say that the 9-11 attacks were an inside job by the US government to give them an excuse to invade countries like Iraq and Afghanistan. Of course, Osama bin Laden gave a television interview claiming responsibility for the attacks, and Khalid Sheik Muhammad proudly announced he had been responsible for planning the operational side of the attack. Structural engineer have carried out details studies of the collapsed building and have shown conclusively the collapses were not in any way related to the demolition processes used to collapse a building safely and efficiently.
Now, you also take issue with my claim that Muslims should be kept out of Western countries. Actually, as you are a Muslim, I don’t blame you for taking offense at that statement. The question, though, is, does the statement make sense from my point of view. I should clarify my position and say I definitely favor cutting off all further immigration of Muslims. As for the Muslims already here, already citizens, and who have kept their noses clean, I say leave them alone. I’d prefer they weren’t here, but if they are legal citizens and haven’t done anything illegal, they have a right to remain.
Of course, you go further to claim that diversity improves a community. It’s a bit difficult to tell from what you write whether you think the improvement comes from a cross-fertilization of cultures, or you think that the improvement comes from the fact that Sharia law and customs will be implemented. My feeling is that you think that anything that brings a country closer to Islam is an improvement.
And, there is the reason why I don’t want Muslims coming in at all. Islamic law forbids everything that makes life worth living: music, art, free criticism and analysis, objective scientific inquiry, dogs, fine beers and wines, and even a bit of erotic art now and then. Also, Islamic law is totally opposed to the entire system of Western rights and laws which give the individual rights against the government.
The more Muslims we allow into the country, the more people we have who oppose our most valuable rights and institutions. They contribute money and political support to politicians and organizations that put constant pressure to erode our rights, liberties and freedoms.
Who wants to bring people into your house who want to destroy your house? It simply doesn’t make sense.
I don’t advocate harming Muslims, or invading Muslim countries, or even trying to use covert tactics to overthrow any governments they have in their own countries. I simply advocate keeping them there. If a Muslim wants to come to the US, he or she should renounce Islam and apostacise. That’s the route to immigration we should provide.
But, Rezali, I hope you keep writing. You’ll have to work on your logic a bit, and your reasoning, but we can definitely have opinions here we don’t agree with.
Mirren10 says
Hey, rezali, me old mate !
I really think you should get on the first plane for Indonesia, I understand they’re planning a lovely surprise for shiites there !
Still obsessed with beards, I see.
More later, chumbawumba !
gravenimage says
The repulsive Rezali Mehil is gloating over the—as she hopes—immanent destruction of the West.
She wrote:
In the same way a community/country is said to be maturing when there are muslims mixed in with the indigenous people. …so I say this to you Ronald…encourage Muslims to settle into your communities…into your streets, into the house next door…or as your son(s)-in-law, ….allow them to father your daughters…spotify…get that salt and pepper mix.
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Who “says this”? Only Rezali Mejhil, and this is more like salt and rat poison than salt and pepper.
What does a society with an increasing Muslim population look like? Well, we can see—increased violence; rape, street crime, robbery, murder, Jihad terror—what could possibly ‘spice up’ a society more than that? sarc/off
And when you get near the 50/50 mix, you can expect a genocide against the indigenous Infidels, as in Nigeria.
And when you near 100% Muslims? Why, you can expect the same kind of “paradise” as you find in Afghanistan, Yemen, or Somalia—and as the story above illustrates, that is a violent, chaotic hell-hole where even the Jihadists are simple slaughtering *each other*. *Ugh*.
Peter Buckley says
“Muslims are victims of their own beliefs”.
Example no. 287034109538753292402638745289 …..and counting. When will the learn?
Oh, hang on, they ARE (at last!) Note what the muslim girl says at 3 mins :15
mariam rove says
As someone who was born and raised a muslim, I can tell you this, that is mind boggling how muslims are in denial of the problems with their religion. Case in point is my own sister and her answer as well as 9 put of 10 muslim’s answer to the question: “why muslims are then killing so many people?” is: well they are not true muslims. good muslims do not go around killing people. There you ahve it. M
Rezali Mehil says
“good muslims (and muslimas) do not go around killing people.”
kudos…. to your sister Mr (backslider) Rove.
The solution is not to remove muslims but to make them into good muslims.
Get them inito you communities an integrate ….Places like Bradford in teh UK are a brilliant example.
More Later…
Rezali
Defcon 4 says
“good” scuzzlums. WOuld those be the ones busily persecuting and/or murdering and/or enslaving the najjis kaffir in all of your islam0nazi cesspools?
Any sharia law is too much, which goes hand in fist w/your death cult.
gravenimage says
The meretricious Rezali Mehil wrote:
“good muslims (and muslimas) do not go around killing people.”
kudos…. to your sister Mr (backslider) Rove.
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Hmmmmm…and why are there so very many “bad” Muslims? You don;t find other people going around committing horrific acts of violence in the name of their creeds. But you do Muslims—22,829 Jihad terror attacks just since 9/11.
The fact is, of course, that pious Muslims like Rezali Mehim don;t consider such atrocities to be “bad” at all.
More:
The solution is not to remove muslims but to make them into good muslims.
Get them inito you communities an integrate ….Places like Bradford in teh (sic) UK are a brilliant example.
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Wait—is Rezali Mehil suggesting that barbaric Muslims can be civilized though exposure to decent Infidel society?
Of course not—she just wants them to have access to Kaffir victims.
Here’s the real situation in Bradford:
“Clampdown on Ramadan crime surge”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/bradford/6986706.stm
Muslims don’t integrate—they are here to take over.
mortimer says
Sharia law gives the hotheads a clear message that they may overthrow a government that isn’t ‘Islamic enough’.
Since no government is ‘Islamic enough’ (nothing is perfect), the Islamic revolution is unending and always justified by religion.
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
Smart of them to all get together in one room to discuss their collective vulnerability. They shoulda held the meeting in Eden Prairie.
EYESOPEN says
Japan had Tokyo Rose. We here have to endure the drivel from Rezali Mehil – the Iranian Nettle.
Mirren10 says
AKA as the shiite scabious. 🙂