When Pamela Geller and I were barred from entering Britain last year, many people who realized how ridiculous that ban was pointed out that Winston Churchill, because of the quote below, would not be welcome in Britain today — an idea which was met with the usual Leftist/Islamic supremacist response of derision and ridicule. But here is proof that those who made this observation were absolutely right.
If there is any genuine resistance in Britain today against jihad terror and Islamic supremacism, it will now champion Paul Weston’s cause. We’ll see. I suspect that more likely the leading “counter-jihadists” in Dhimmi Britannia will pick at Weston’s past statements, saying he wasn’t right just here or just there, and throw him to the wolves.
“Winchester: Churchill Quotation Gets Liberty GB Leader Paul Weston Arrested,” Liberty GB, April 26, 2014:
Today Paul Weston, chairman of the party Liberty GB and candidate in the 22 May European Elections in the South East, has been arrested in Winchester.
At around 2pm Mr Weston was standing on the steps of Winchester Guildhall, addressing the passers-by in the street with a megaphone. He quoted the following excerpt about Islam from the book The River War by Winston Churchill:
“How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property – either as a child, a wife, or a concubine – must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the faith: all know how to die but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith.”
Reportedly a woman came out of the Guildhall and asked Mr Weston if he had the authorisation to make this speech. When he answered that he didn’t, she told him “It’s disgusting!” and then called the police.
Six or seven officers arrived. They talked with the people standing nearby, asking questions about what had happened. The police had a long discussion with Mr Weston, lasting about 40 minutes.
At about 3pm he was arrested. They searched him, put him in a police van and took him away.
john spielman says
this is truly amazing ! If Winston Churchill cannot be quoted WITHOUT THE SPEAKER BEING ARRESTED, THEN FREEDOM IN THE UK IS LOST.
I fear a violent civil war between the native Britons and the muslim- leftist alliance
Joe Murphy says
The civil war of which you speak will almost certainly come. It remains to see how many leftists join the Muslims. Probably not that many–most of them are real mommy’s boys ultimately.
jihadnews.us says
Anyone who object to Islam or government tyranny will be branded a a nazi or racist and an Islamophobe and be muzzled and ridiculed into silence .Try to organize and you will be rounded up as a terrorist .
dumbledoresarmy says
Is that a *threat*?
Or is it just that you have chosen to succumb to despair?
It sounds very much like you are attempting to put people off even *trying* to do anything: either because you don’t *want* them to do anything, or because you have given up and want everyone else to give up, too.
When in fact, sir, the numbers are still such that if *enough* people acted, *together*, they could *turn things around*, even now.
Geordie says
dumbledoresarmy wrote: “When in fact, sir, the numbers are still such that if *enough* people acted, *together*, they could *turn things around*, even now.”
Given the right motivation, we could turn things around in a few short years. Something akin to a war footing and acceptance of the price to be paid.
JasonP says
The sad thing is that the government that had Weston arrested for quoting Churchill is led by the Conservative Party. Churchill’s own Party now considers his language “hate speech.” This is the same Party that kept Spencer and Geller out of England. Conservatives are just as clueless as leftists.
Always On Watch says
@ Jason,
I have tried and tried to reason with neocons — about the Islamic threat. A no go! They are brainwashed into thinking that all religions speak to the good in mankind.
Notta_allah_followa says
Your scenario presupposes that American-style patriots inhabit that bankrupt land. All that is left there are two types: the Leftie multiculti sheep and those too cowed into submission to raise their voices. All is lost, Brittania. The once fierce bulldog is dead.
wildjew says
Churchill believed the English people (his people) are a great people. I wonder if the best of England did not immigrate to the United States over the past couple or so centuries leaving the dregs in the UK.
MacUalraig says
Yes, the sooner the better so that the liberty lovers of that land can get on with their lives.
Kill all of the totalitarians.
Charles says
Insane, the British are lost.
Kilgore Trout says
Do NOT fear it! Encourage it. The longer it’s delayed, the stronger they will get and the harder will be the fight!
Paul Austin Murphy says
Now even though Churchill’s words are full of rhetoric and polemics (pretty decent rhetoric and polemics too!), they are stil true.
So let’s take them one bit at a time:
i) “How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog…”
We see that “fanatical frenzy” of Muslims almost every day on the news; whether in protests in Pakistan on on the streets of London. In fact the wider the Muslim mouths, and the more intense the “frenzy”, the more Islamic a Muslim thinks he is. It’s a kind of I’m-more-Islamic-than-thou competition many Muslims have with each other.
ii) “…. here is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live.”
Islam does not accept free will. Ask a Muslim. Everything is predestined by Allah and even every action and thought of a Muslim is too. That is the primary reason Churchill gives for the backwardness of Muslim countries. Nonetheless, I would say that Islam in its entirety leads to that “apathy” and backwardness: whether that be Islamic literalism, rule-fixation, the distrust of anything not sanctified by Muhammad and the Koran, the hatred of change or progress, etc.
iii) “The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property – either as a child, a wife, or a concubine – must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.”
Again, all that is true. And when it’s not the case with some Muslims, then that’s because they are going against their own religion.
Muhammad himself had 11 wives at one point. He also married a six-year-old and consummated that marriage when she was 9. Muhammad also had many concubines and sex slaves. Slavery too was practiced by Muhammad and has been a part of Islam ever since. It still exists in parts of the Arab world and even beyond (e.g., in Islamic Sudan – the place Churchill primarily had in mind).
iv) “Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the faith: all know how to die but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it.”
Now millions, not “thousands”, of Muslims are the “brave and loyal soldiers of the faith”. They are now called jihadists. They were also often called “holy warriors”. Many British “brave and loyal soldiers of the faith” went to wage jihad in Syria. 500, at the very least, are expected to return to the UK any time soon. (According to the BBC, there were more than 200 British Muslims fighting in Syria seven months ago.)
v) “No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith.”
Those two Churchillian statements are the most prescient of all.
We got rid of both communism and Nazism. And today “no stronger retrograde force exists in the world” than Islam.
So, despite all that, it’s odd that this woman asked Paul Weston if he had any authorisation to relay Churchill’s words to the English public. In fact she told him that what he was doing was “disgusting”…. Unless she meant that the facts about Islam he had itemized were disgusting. Of course not! If this woman is a pious Leftist, then she will believe that nothing people with brown skin do can be deemed “disgusting”. Such is the inverse or positive racism of the puritanical Left.
john spielman says
this is truly amazing ! If Winston Churchill cannot be quoted WITHOUT THE SPEAKER BEING ARRESTED, THEN FREEDOM IN THE UK IS LOST.
I fear a violent civil war between the native Britons and the muslim- leftist alliance
jihad3tracker says
Are readers of this blog feeling understandably discouraged about current events, especially in England ?
If yes, then do a web search for vids and audio of Sir Winston’s — AND FDR’s — 24/7 courage against Nazi fascism — completely equivalent to Islam.
Rob says
Enoch Powell’s Rivers of Blood* speech, even though totally prophetic regarding the present state of the UK and much of Western Europe, would get the same response if it were to be quoted.
*’Like the Roman of old, I see the Tiber flowing with much blood’
Richie says
RIP Britain, Churchill would not recognize you today
Next will be bloggers, I’m surpried Pat Condell has not been arrested for speaking the truth about Islam
Defcon 4 says
I’ve often wondered why Pat Condell hasn’t been arrested for criticising pisslam in the UK of W. Pakistain. Then again, he hasn’t much to say about pisslam lately has he?
Does anyone doubt that this is the future of the US and AUS? I’d say Canada but they’re already imprisoning people for criticising the RoP.
Aardvark says
“Then again, he hasn’t much to say about pisslam lately has he?”
Take a look at his latest video, entitled ‘It’s good to be anti-islam’:
http://alturl.com/fxmuv
The previous three were also on the nail.
Bezelel says
Has islam changed any since Churchill made the speech? Or has England?
billreitzes says
Great question.
This would be a great question if asked in a poll of today’s Britons.
dumbledoresarmy says
Not a speech.
He wrote it in his book about the war against the slave-raiding Mohammedan fanatic, the “Mahdi” in Sudan, that took place in the 1890s, and which he witnessed first-hand as a young soldier and war correspondent.
The book is called “The River War” and was first published in 1899. The passage Weston read out aloud is in the original 1899 edition (now a rare book accessible only in some old libraries), but was removed from the later abridged edition which is the one most readily available.
Unfortunately, the Gutenberg project people have not been able to obtain a copy of the 1899 edition to digitise it and place online; they were only able to get hold of the later abridged edition.
However, the Gutenberg project *has* digitised and placed online another early work of Churchill’s which also contains some pretty searingly-accurate description and analysis and critique of Islam. To wit, “The Story of the Malakand Field Force”, which is about the skirmishes on the North-West Frontier and in Afghanistan, also in the late 1890s. It is in *that* book, in the first chapter, “The Theatre of War”, that there is a resounding passage in which Churchill describes Islam as “the religion of blood and war”.
Aardvark says
Thanks for that, dda. I haven’t read ‘The Story of the Malakand Field Force’ – yet. I looked at the first chapter, though, and there are some nice phrases that fit today’s situation perfectly.
The world is presented with that grim spectacle, “the strength of civilisation without its mercy.” Sounds like Iran to me. And Saudi. And others.
The weapons of the nineteenth century are in the hands of the savages of the Stone Age. It is now, of course, the weapons of the 21st century, but they are still Stone Age savages. Nothing has changed in ‘the religion of blood and war’ except the weaponry.
Churchill was a master of the English Language, as well as being a clear-sighted politician. Another Churchill is desperately needed today.
Marit says
The Great Winston Churchill even won The Nobel Peace Prize in Litterature.
baldilocks says
Is this not a Gutenberg ebook copy of The River War?
baldilocks says
Answering my own question, The River War is available at Gutenberg.
dumbledoresarmy says
But if I recall correctly, it’s not the orignal full-length complete and unexpurgated 1899 edition, which is the one that contains the passage that Weston quoted.
The most readily available version, published some years later, was *abridged* – whole portions were *cut out*, including the passage that Weston read out – and I think that that *abridged* version was the one that got digitised.
voegelinian says
If one does a search in Google Books for “mohammedanism churchill” one gets 15,000 results, including probably hundreds of different books, many scholarly, published over the decades in which that quote (and others) from Churchill is contained and referenced:
https://www.google.com/search?tbm=bks&hl=en&q=mohammedanism+churchill
There’s no turning back; in this new age of the Internet there simply can no longer be real censorship (pace all the strangely alienated and gloomy apocalypticists of our time whose lower intestines continue to grumble).
Edward Cline says
England has changed, measurably, and for the worse. Islam has not changed in 1,400 years. It is still a totalitarian ideology posing as a religion. Don’t believe the Muslims who say it can be “modified” or made “moderate.” You can no more “modify” Islam than you can Nazism — with which, as Geert Wilders has so eloquently demonstrated, as well as Mr. Spencer, Islam has an ideological symbiosis. It was not for nothing that Hitler patronized the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem.
Kepha says
Edward Cline. The fools who say that Islam can be “reformed” or made “moderate” are not Muslims, but Western Leftist EmCeePeeCees (empty peasies?).
As an American who is “Anglo-Saxon” chiefly by osmosis, I mourn for Britain. I grew up in a milieu in which it was fashionable to despise British imperialism and blame the British for everything from Third World Poverty to racism and back again. But, as I look at the actual record, and note what the British found in a lot of places they colonized, I am actually in awe of the British accomplishment. Further, I think that our own American political experiment, while differing from Britain’s, still bears marks of a British inheritance.
beyondculturewars says
Bears the mark? We (US) are the active inheritors of everything the British nation (all the isles) has accomplished since the stone age. There is not one American iconic thing that doesn’t have it roots in the culture of the British Isles. The Southwest just added a Spanish flavor to the ‘green grass grows all around’ (gringo) culture. Read THE FOURTH TURNING, by Strauss and Howe, to see where our past and future is still the Anglosphere journey.
Edward Cline says
Kepha: On the contrary, there are Muslims who claim (or hope) that Islam can be “reformed,” in addition to non-Muslim scholars on Islam, as well, such as Daniel Pipes. Pipes, for example, can describe the latest horrific crimes committed against Jews, Christians, homosexuals, women, etc., yet still maintain that the belligerent, “fanatical” crimes committed by Muslims are not essential to Islamic belief, when they darned well are essential. There are a few other non-Muslim writers who inveigh against jihad yet still maintain that Islam can be “pacified.” But it can’t be “reformed” or “pacified.” You may as well try to “reform” Nazism or Communism. It’s the nature of the ideology. If its means and ends are evil, then the ideology is evil. And Islam is evil.
Boston Tea Party says
Unfortunately, I don’t think the situation is completely equivalent—in 1940, the British government hadn’t invited and paid for millions of Nazis to come and live in Britain, and wasn’t criminalizing any speech against their ideology.
thomas _h says
Exactly, BTP.
The analogy is not just imperfect, but misleading. The current situation has no precedence in history, so the talk of not learning from history and therefore being doomed to repeating it doesn’t apply here. The Left has won the kulturkampf and by profoundly changing the composition of the once British
nation assured that nothing short of civil war has chance of restoring the values and virtues on which the British freedom used to rest.
Boston Tea Party says
Yes, as far as no precedent in history, I think you’re exactly right. This picece from a few years ago, by Daniel Pipes, sums it up well. He also concludes that we’re really in uncharted historical territory:
http://www.danielpipes.org/4323/europes-stark-options
gerard says
He quoted Churchill and was arrested. No doubt if he had quoted Stalin or Hitler he would have been given a knighthood.
Curious Teenager says
Thank you, Winston Churchill, for having the intelligence to realize the problem of Islam and give us this warning. Its to bad nobody bothers to listen to people like Winston Churchill any more. History is our past, present, and future, not just some old events that happened in our world that will never affect us again. Leaders like Churchill would take quite a bit of garbage this day and age because they don’t “coexist.” He understood that all religions did not worship the same God, and that is only the beginning of what people supporting “coexistence” need to understand.
Angemon says
Just my $.02:
1 – If Winston Churchill were around today, what would he say?
2 – Would he be allowed to say anything at all?
Curious Teenager says
I doubt he would be allowed to say anything. He would get arrested, just like Weston did. We should be ashamed of what our society has become. He certainly would be.
Larry S says
What was Weston arrested for?
bobm says
Read somewhere that Obama upon entering White house ; immediately sent sculpture of Churchill back to England.
DVult says
Dumbama always wants to be the smartest guy in the room. That’s why he always picks complete idiots to surround himself with, Biden for example. He was probably nervous with good reason that even Churchill’s bust would be easily recognized as smarter than him.
Nusse says
B. Hussein Obama is a muslim himself. In disguise. Wake up, folks !
Ian says
I recall BHO had the sculpture removed from the oval office, but I thought it went into storage.
judi says
Yes Bobm – that was the first thing he did.
Marit says
Shame on Hussain Obama. Again.
PRCS says
“Reportedly a woman came out of the Guildhall and asked Mr Weston if he had the authorisation to make this speech. When he answered that he didn’t, she told him “It’s disgusting!” and then called the police.”
A lefty, PCMC, artsy fartsy patron of the Guildhall upset that such an Islamophobic member of the filthy middle class had the gall to demean the ROP? Ignorant about Churchill, was she? A member of the Guildhall staff, perhaps?
Or maybe a Muslim woman?
They might be able to get him for having no permit.
But until Churchill’s book “The River War” is banned, it’s hard to imagine how they can hammer him for quoting it.
Michael Copeland says
Did she have authorization to ask him?
Diane Harvey says
Weston doesn’t need “authorization” to speak. I would have given a more punctuating retort. “Where does it say I can’t speak?”
And while no fan of the UN, Weston could have cried, “The Universal Declaration of Human Rights!” To which the UK has given its signature.
It has an express provision there, Article 19 (among others which would seem to apply here).
PRCS says
I don’t know the rules, there, but they obviously did arrest him for something.
Bill says
In todays UK, seems that only flattery is safe! Isn’t it?
Judi says
In the UK they arrest anyone who dares speak out about Islam, under the guise of “hate speech”. They did the same with Paul Golding recently, but he was subsequently released. Hopefully, Paul Weston will be freed soon. He is very articulate and will not take this lying down.
biersauer says
Für solche Rollkommando-Aktionen wird die Polizei missbraucht!
Auch in Wien soll jetzt die Polizei um über 1000 Beamte aufgestockt werden. Das ist aber nicht zum Schutze des Bürgers vor dieser Bereicherung, sondern um die Freie Meinung und Kritik an dieser Entwicklung, zu unterdrücken.
Tayloch says
@biersauer
Thanks for your comment, but it is not the the police/polizei that will be your “heroes”. You have a national government that openly supports and abets the “islamification” of Austria.
You can only see what is happening in Sweden, The Netherlands, the UK, and France to see exactly what will happen to your beautiful country if you don’t take action NOW!
Remember 1683, and your saviour, Jan King Sobieski….
Wellington says
What the hell has happened to Britain? And what about the monarch? If you can’t lay the monarchy on the line to save your own nation, then you’ll never lay it on the line and therefore what the hell is it good for?
Ian says
The Monarchy? Prince Charles is an islamophile, Once he ascends to the throne, watch for changes in Britain’s foreign policy and how it affects Western civilization. It ain’t gonna be pretty.
John J says
I seem to remember Prince Charles seeing himself as “Defender of ALL Faiths”
Aardvark says
The royals have no political power at all, for which we should all be thankful.
Michael Copeland says
Britain – mainly in England – has had, and continues to have, several million non-English planted in it, displacing the indigenous people from not just zones but whole towns.
nothosaur says
What are the elements of this crime?
Why was Christopher Hitchens not arrested for his speeches that were critical of any/all religions?
What is the significant difference between the legal consequences of saying the same thing in Pakistan?
Boston Tea Party says
Regarding Hitchens, as long as you hate Christianity (and to some degree, the West) you can get away with being critical of Islam as well—that’s in line with the Holy Religion of Multiculturalism and Cultural Relativism. It’s when you start concluding that Christianity (or for that matter, Judiaism, Buddhism or Hinduism) is a good thing, and Islam is a bad thing—that’s when you’ve crossed over into Thoughtcrime and must be shut up and punished.
JasonP says
If Hitch were alive today, I’m confident he would be arrested. Richard Dawkins, fellow “New Atheist” was damned for speaking critically of Islam. One tweet that got him verbally pummeled was “All the world’s Muslims have fewer Nobel Prizes than Trinity College, Cambridge. They did great things in the Middle Ages, though.” Petty tame, eh? Yet that got the vultures out.
Hitchens was a verbal slugger; he’d be in jail or exile if he were alive today. The UK has been gripped with the hysteria of “Islamophobia.” And this is with a Tory government. Ironically it’s been Tony Blair that has recently pointed to failures in the Muslim world. So maybe we shouldn’t count out the UK yet.
Jeff says
How the British public reacts to this will be very telling.
WVinMN says
Prepare to be mightily disappointed.
Sarah says
I am f*cking furious! So angry in fact I recently moved out of Londonistan and hid my head in the sand. Sorry, but what are we supposed to to??
voegelinian says
If the British public don’t demonstrate in the streets at the very least one million strong over this outrage, we can conclude this is not merely a problem with the “Elites” but also with the the ordinary man-in-the-street. And that’s why it’s the problem it is; and why it is grievously fallacious to fixate on those dastardly “Elites”.
Henry says
I’m sure Paul Weston will handle this well, but how will the British media handle this? Will this be the alarm bell that finally wakes Britain?
Rob says
One hopes for that last straw that wakes up the British (mixing metaphors here) but I’ve been hopeful (and disappointed) before.
Maybe the Trojan Horse school investigation will be it, but the investigator is being undermined before he starts work.
WVinMN says
The British populace didn’t “wake up” after the bombings in 2005, the murder of Lee Rigby, etc. They are FINISHED as a people and we (the US) are only a decade or so away from accepting their fate. The West is done.
dumbledoresarmy says
Oh good god.
Despair, defeatism, despair, defeatism.
*Muslims* read here, you fool.
Do you want to *feed* their gloating triumphalism?
And did you never hear that Despair is one of the Seven Deadly Sins?
One does not want to paralyse any Britons who happen to be reading here, by gleefully dancing on their presumed graves, or croaking at them over and over “YOU’RE FINISHED AND THERE’S NOTHING YOU CAN DO!” GIVE UP AND DIE! NO HOPE! NO HOPE! NO HOPE!
I would rather try to ginger people up a bit. Because I *know* that not all Britons have given up. I want to try to build morale, rather than *destroy* it.
Huck Folder says
Or the rape/torture/murder of 15 year old Scot Kriss Donald.
Though THAT was deliberately covered up by the BBC.
Michael Copeland says
Thousands of patriots were born when Lee Rigby was murdered.
Look at Britain First facebook page https://www.facebook.com/britainfirstgb (open to all) and see the number of “likes” it has received.
Leave for a short while and then repeat the exercise. Watch the numbers grow.
Jay Boo says
Self Defense is not a sin
thomas_h says
True. But it’s a crime in the UK, so its being not a sin is completely irrelevant.
mortimer says
When numbers of Britons of stature repeat this exercise of free speech BY QUOTING CHURCHILL, the government will have to admit the problem is Islam, NOT CHURCHILL or those who quote him!
This is Britons time to stand up and resist the tyranny of Islam which is taking over UK with the help of Leftist morons.
Huck Folder says
Oh, how I wish! Your idea led me to this.
Multiple examples, maybe in ‘safe’ locations,
a la “I am Spartacus!”
dumbledoresarmy says
Yes.
And not one person alone: it needs to be large groups.
Maybe there’s a “call” going out, as it were, to Dad’s (or Ma’s) Army: to all those elderly folks who have nothing left to lose.
The British police would look pretty damn stupid – and pretty damn *nasty*, too – arresting, say, about twenty-five or thirty little old blue-rinsed tottering-on-walking-frames grandmas or grandpas, for the “crime” of merely quoting the ipsissima verba of the man who led their nation when they (said little old grandmas) were children or teens.
Mumia W says
Briton has officially gone insane.
Marit says
Completely INSANE like Sweden. Who will save the Western world this time ?
China ? Russia ?
Guest says
” but how will the British media handle this?”
So far by totally ignoring it! The public won’t even have a chance to do anything, if it doesn’t know.
WVinMN says
I don’t buy the media excuse in today’s digital world. No doubt, a true “media” hasn’t existed in the UK or the US for decades. Leftist tripe, 24/7 and they don’t even care when their skirt’s showing any more. However, the vast majority of Britons have access to the internet, talk radio, pod casts, twitter, face book, etc. If one is the least bit curious, one will come across informative sites like Jihad Watch watch and thus educate themselves beyond what passes for “journalism” in today’s world. Unfortunately, most people in the West are mindless drones, unwilling to pay attention to anything more meaningful than the latest episode of “Honey Boo Boo” or who won yesterday’s soccer match.
CogitoErgoSum says
” We are in the preliminary stage of one of the greatest battles in history….
I have nothing to offer but blood, toil, tears and sweat. We have before us an ordeal of the most grievous kind. We have before us many, many long months of struggle and of suffering.
You ask, what is our aim? I can answer in one word: Victory. Victory at all costs—Victory in spite of all terror—Victory, however long and hard the road may be, for without victory there is no survival.”
———-excerpts from Winston Churchill’s speech to the House of Commons on May 13, 1940
Churchill expected months of struggle. We can expect years. The greatest battle is yet to be won. So what is OUR aim? Do we have the strength of will to hold onto that for which our fathers and grandfathers fought so valiantly upon the ramparts? Do we accept the keys together with the sword and the spear and stand our turn upon the watchtower …..or have we left open wide the castle gates so that our sleep is not disturbed by the rabid dogs of midnight that howl for entry to gnaw upon the bones of our children. Eternal vigilance is the price that always must be paid….along with the toil and the tears, the blood and the sweat. The retrograde force is strong and night descends slowly as grace and refinement, dignity and sanctity dissolve into the darkness. Will mere survival substitute for victory this time around?
James Boom says
Fortify your hearts:
http://departmentoffreespeech.net/wordpress/?p=581
Steffen Larsen says
Ah well …perhaps he was merely arrested for causing a disturbance. It’s not that he was being quiet about what he had to say, or where he said it.
Naturally, next time the islamists are out in force to demonstrate against the worthless secular laws, we shall see them arrested too 🙂
Nusse says
We live in a mad, mad World ! Let’s face it !
Kenny says
We really are lost now!
Another quote from Churchill “He who does not learn from history is destined to repeat it”.
I wonder if Choudary and his friends will attach steel tips to their flip flop sandals to make them sound like jackboots?
Defcon 4 says
I thought your quote was George Santayana’s, not Churchill’s?
Ian says
yes, Santayana said that.
dumbledoresarmy says
My advice to any and all Islamosavvy British posters here lurking or posting.
Please, in the name of God, in the name of Life and Truth and Freedom: **choose not to despair**.
Get *angry*.
Then, send a donation to “Liberty Great Britain”…or join the party! Send another donation to Gavin Boby’s “Law and Freedom Foundation”. And join “The Royal Society of St George”, en masse, preferably by the thousands, and have a good think about what you might be able to do with that ancient and respectable patriotic and pro-English-culture organisation. Plenty, I suspect.
Write letters to the editors of every paper in Britain – not emails, but actual letters on paper, signed and stamped – stating that if it transpires that Mr Weston has been arrested simply and solely for publicly stating Sir Winston Churchill’s critique of Islam and Muslims, then this is an *outrage* that ought not to be tolerated for a second.
Send the same letter to your elected representative. State that freedom of speech – *real* freedom of speech, which includes the freedom to publicly criticise *all* belief systems *including Islam* – must be restored in Britain.
Further thought. I assume that Hyde Park Corner, with its traditional soap boxes, still exists? last I heard, Mohammedan mobsters were wont to do da’wa there, and rant and rave. Well: how’s about a hundred or so patriotic Britons, every single one of them costumed and made up to look like Sir Winston Churchill, converge on Hyde Park, with sackfuls of printed-out flyers containing that exact same passage from “The River Wars” (1899 edition). Line up in a row.
Then one person hops up on the soapbox and in a pleasant conversation tone, clearly enunciating, reads out the offending passage. Then when he’s finished, the next “Churchill” hops up on the box and does the same. And the next, and the next, and the next, and the next. No megaphones or anything. Just read out from a piece of paper (for extra effect, one could place the paper inside a “dummy” of the book – the original is a Rare Book, so I doubt anyone would be able to get hold of one).
And see what happens.
Let’s put it this way: it’d look pretty damning if a hundred or so “Churchills” are all arrested at once on Hyde Park Corner, merely for reading out loud a passage from a classic book that can surely be found in, for example, the British Library. A book that a high-powered scholar is currently preparing for republication in a deluxe **unabridged** unbowdlerised no-expenses spared edition for the St Augustine’s Press of the University of Chicago, USA. (And taking forever about it…arrrrrrrgh…..not I think because of any squeamishness about the contents, but merely because said scholar is an infernal perfectionist).
ecosse1314 says
Umm doubt you would get much support in Scotland for your suggested organisations. You do realuse that we in Scotland are in the middle of a referendum to leave the Uk
dumbledoresarmy says
I guess I mainly had England in mind, given that England has the largest mohammedan infestation.
No reason, however, why the Scots couldn’t something with a “Society of St Andrew of Scotland”. *That* sort of thing could become a cultural reaffirmation and counter-jihad resistance force to be reckoned with. The Welsh could set up a “Society of St David” to do the same sort of thing in Wales. *Liaising* with bodies like the Royal Society of St George.
And no reason why the Scots – and while we’re about it, the Welsh, also – can’t take a good long look at Gavin Boby’s “Law and Freedom Foundation”, and be inspired.
dumbledoresarmy says
Sorry. Typo. Meant to say, “No reason, however, why the Scots couldn’t do something with a “Society of St Andrew of Scotland”. Left out the “do” by mistake. Lousy eyesight messing up my proofreading.
Imbizo says
a member of the upper house of parliament ‘The Lords’ , Baroness Cox, has just launched shariawatch.org.uk
maybe the Brits need to make use of this and report incidents such as the Weston arrest as proof positive that sharia is inexorably taking over by stealth thru their Thought Police
so … its now a felony ‘to upset someone’ … there seems to be a lot of people ‘out there’ who haven’t done much living yet, if they’re upset by hearing a quote from a war time leader, they need to get a life
dumbledoresarmy says
You wrote – “a member of the upper house of parliament ‘The Lords’ , Baroness Cox, has just launched shariawatch.org.uk
maybe the Brits need to make use of this and report incidents such as the Weston arrest as proof positive that sharia is inexorably taking over by stealth thru their Thought Police”.
YES.
Go for it!
Every single British jihadwatcher posting or lurking – hop onto “shariawatch” and give Baroness Cox something BIG to work with.
Infi Dell says
There is a myth that Mohammed was God’s Prophet on Earth.
Truth is he was only Satan’s Marketing Manager
Theb Nyip says
Britain, like all non-OIC countries around the world, faces a clear choice. A choice between appeasing the enemy or standing up for truth, justice and liberty for all.
I don’t think all hope is lost for Britain yet. The british faced a very similar situation in the 30’s when the majority of the government, media and intelligentsia favoured appeasement yet enough clear heads prevailed that Winston became PM.
I like DBA’s suggestion about Hyde Park. I’d add to that by suggesting Liberty GB co-ordinate the event at multiple other locations around Britain. Perhaps on a single day, picked for some famous Winston Churchill event, whether his birthday, death or the day he gave the WW2 speech someone quoted above.
As another famous British author, George Orwell, once wrote:
“In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.”
Angemon says
“I don’t think all hope is lost for Britain yet. The british faced a very similar situation in the 30′s when the majority of the government, media and intelligentsia favoured appeasement yet enough clear heads prevailed that Winston became PM.”
I beg to differ. Churchill became PM in 1940, the UK declared war on Nazi Germany in 1939. It was not a “you know what? That guy might be right, let’s try doing what he says” moment, it was more a “ok, you were right all along, now please, can you get us out of this bind?” moment. Not only that, Germany was an external foe while the islamofascists in Britain are a internal foe. Like Cicero said:
“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear.”
mad-aussie says
Time for the British people to march on Parliament on mass. BRITAIN needs their British Spring. Give Cammoron and his Cronies a very loud message. Enough has to be Enough. British people you have to get rid of this Muslim Virus for the sake of your kids. Time is running out fast. You need to get the British Military on your side too. Time to make a Major stand and take your country back. No More Talk, No more Muslim Pandering, No more Muslims. Mr Choudary needs to be Arrested and charged with Treason and Inciting Murder. If the Law wont do it, Have the Military do it. This is not a joke , Time has run out. British people have to take Britain Back now. For the sake of your kids and Grand Kids, this has to be done or your country will be lost. The same thing will have to happen in Australia as well. Our Kids Are going to have to grow up fast in the next few years, thanks to the Religion of Peace.
Edward Cline says
I have read “The River War,” and also Churchill’s “The Story of the Malakand Field Force,” in which he expresses the same somber and accurate description of Muslims and Islam in the Northwest Frontier as he does about them in the Sudan. What’s next? Prison for Weston? Banning Churchill’s works? Great Britain is now “Dhimmi Britain,” and Milton’s truth will no longer triumph. If one cannot speak freely about a truth, and especially about the truth of the Islamization of Britain, then the Islamic conquest of Britain is all but sealed.
duh_swami says
‘The sun never sets on the British Empire’, has morphed into ‘The UK sets in a muddy spring’. When the might fell, they took everyone down with them. It is the mighty who should be in prison, not Paul…
Tim says
As usual people will not learn from the past. Britain refused to listen to Churchill prior to WW2 and that allowed the Nazis to move ahead on their agenda. By refusing to listen to what the people and Churchill have to say about Islamism Britain is inviting its own destruction.
By burying, what is really being said behind closed doors , with the all overriding ” political correctness”, public debate of real issues has been quashed. I would rather hear the unvarnished words of a political/ religious extremist in totality and not through the lens of anti hate speech.
Where is real FREEDOM of SPEECH?!
Sebastian Nobile says
That´s how it was like for many people to live under the Nazis or, this fits better, under the STASI in eastern Germany, where you could be arrested for the wrong opinion at any time. As a free people, we can´t let this happen. Resistance is our DUTY!
Geordie says
The next part of the Churchill extract is equally applicable.
Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen: all know how to die. But the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytising faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science – the science against which it had vainly struggled – the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome.”
Gamaliel says
Besides there being a lot of frightened Muslim appeasers in power in Britain there are a lot of Muslim elected officials in power in Britain. Letting in vast amounts of Muslim immigrants brought about this situation in England. Obama is fastracking Muslim immigration into the U.S..
Always On Watch says
With all the digital books and textbooks coming into vogue, we should expect that WC’s words will be scrubbed. The same could well happen with the Internet.
Pumbar says
We always have overcome; http://www.funker530.com/rpg-close-call-for-british-troops/
bill says
. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the faith: all know how to die but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith.”
Weston only needed to use this last part of the speech which perfectly expresses the meaning of the whole.
BrownMan says
He got arrested for the quote or arrested for something else?
dumbledoresarmy says
Further thought.
There is *nothing* to stop US jihadwatchers from holding a solidarity event or two or three, at which Churchill’s famous critiques of Islam – the one that Weston quoted, and the other one from “The Story of the Malakand Field Force”, in which he identifies Islam as “the religion of blood and war – are read out loud, and also handed out in leaflet form to curious passers-by.
A good spot for one such event might be the British Garden in Hanover Square, NYC, which was created to commemorate the 67 UK citizens who were murdered in the 9/11 2001 jihad ghazi raid on NYC. Dress in your very, very best, and then read aloud a few choice passages from the Collected Works of Sir Winston Churchill.
As for those of us from Commonwealth countries – Australia, New Zealand, Canada, most notably, but perhaps some of our Anglophone African and Indian jihadwatching friends may wish to add their voices, also – can we not write to the British diplomatic reps in our respective countries, express our consternation at this arrest of a man for…what? – reading the words of Churchill out loud in a public place?…and ask, as politely and pointedly as we can, just what the HELL is going on, in the Mother Country? Has Mother gone quite, quite mad???
And could not solidarity “happenings” be done here, too? Sydney, I think, has a Hyde Park corner supposedly dedicated to free speech.
Posters, with the offending passage from The River War, stuck up in prominent places? Anybody here with access to a University campus, where they could tape up printouts of “What Churchill Said About Islam” to the noticeboards where people advertise bands and meetings of student societies and such? With a headline: “Say This in Public in the UK Today; The Cops Will Grab You and Take You Away”.
Could the various resistance orgs – such as Q Society in Australia, and the Law and Freedom Foundation in the UK – try placing ads in newspapers or on a billboard or two or three, featuring the offending passage plus the appropriate reference (author, book, date of publication?).
Here’s an idea: Sergio Redegalli in Australia could paint over his famous Burka mural and – for a month or so – replace it with a few sentences from this “River War” critique of Islam…and a silhouette of Churchill. I might email him and suggest it.
voegelinian says
Americans could also read passages from John Quincy Adams, sixth President of the U.S.A. (1825-1829):
In the seventh century of the Christian era, a wandering Arab of the lineage of Hagar, the Egyptian, combining the powers of transcendent genius, with the preternatural energy of a fanatic, and the fraudulent spirit of an impostor, proclaimed himself as a messenger from Heaven, and spread desolation and delusion over an extensive portion of the earth. Adopting from the sublime conception of the Mosaic law, the doctrine of one omnipotent God; he connected indissolubly with it, the audacious falsehood, that he was himself his prophet and apostle. Adopting from the new Revelation of Jesus, the faith and hope of immortal life, and of future retribution, he humbled it to the dust, by adapting all the rewards and sanctions of his religion to the gratification of the sexual passion. He poisoned the sources of human felicity at the fountain, by degrading the condition of the female sex, and the allowance of polygamy; and he declared undistinguishing and exterminating war, as a part of his religion, against all the rest of mankind. THE ESSENCE OF HIS DOCTRINE WAS VIOLENCE AND LUST: TO EXALT THE BRUTAL OVER THE SPIRITUAL PART OF HUMAN NATURE. [caps in the original — way to go, John Q!]
Between these two religions, thus contrasted in their characters, a war of twelve hundred years has already raged. That war is yet flagrant; nor can it cease but by the extinction of that imposture, which has been permitted by Providence to prolong the degeneracy of man. While the merciless and dissolute dogmas of the false prophet shall furnish motives to human action, there can never be peace upon earth, and good will towards men. The hand of Ishmael will be against every man, and every man’s hand against him. It is, indeed, amongst the mysterious dealings of God, that this delusion should have been suffered for so many ages, and during so many generations of human kind, to prevail over the doctrines of the meek and peaceful and benevolent Jesus.
https://www.apologeticspress.org/apcontent.aspx?category=7&article=1142
Sam says
For those who believe that this can not happen here in America this is an excellent lesson. Are we paying attention to what Islam doing all over the world? NO. We are a few Jihad Watch readers. Tthe majority of us has no clue what is going on. Very sad situation.
dumbledoresarmy says
Another idea.
Postcards.
Liberty GB could create postcards printed-up with this passage – and the line from “Story of the Malakand Field Force” about “the religion of blood and war”, superimposed on a portrait of Winston Churchill. And then put them up for sale at their website.
Then people could buy the postcards and send them **to every sitting MP and Peer in the UK Parliament**. With covering letters demanding that real freedom of speech be restored, and that the de facto imposition and enforcement of the Muslim law that forbids all public and private questioning and critique of Islam must STOP. Instanter.
Such postcards could also be sent as “consciousness raisers” to politicians in countries such as Australia, with covering letters asking the politician did *they* believe that there should be any punishment at all inflicted upon someone who read those words out loud in a public place, or who displayed them on a poster, etc. And point out that if they say yes, they are essentially agreeing to censor Sir Winston Churchill and throw him down the memory hole…to pander to mohammedans.
Michael Copeland says
Print-Your-Own Churchill on Islam: Wallet Cards
Can be downloaded at:
http://libertygb.org.uk/v1/index.php/home/root/news-libertygb/6066-churchill-on-islam-wallet-cards
Michael Copeland says
Churchill’s words:
“ISLAM IS AS DANGEROUS IN A MAN
AS RABIES IN A DOG
are on a graphic with his portrait at
https://www.facebook.com/britainfirstgb
scroll down a bit, posted 26th April
easy to “Save image”
easy to e-mail.
Mirren10 says
Hi, dda.
Libertygb has already such postcards as you suggest, available to print out.
I have written an email to Lady Cox, at shariawatch, and will follow it up with a proper letter, and also to my MP.
NSE !
dumbledoresarmy says
Terrific!
Time for *me* to get cracking on some letters, as well.
davidquilty@mac.com says
So England arrested Churchill the greats words in the beautiful city and their former capital of Winchester…
Suggests an act of civil disobedience taking place as the scene of the crime at about the same time of day where “hate speech” verses of the koran are read out loud.
Would there be complaints, would there be arrests?
Tom says
You Brits need to start taking up non violent civil disobedience in massive numbers. They cant arrest thousands without causing the court system to a grinding halt. And if everyone arrested refuses to be fingerprinted and photographed it will create more chaos. Try those techniques out and as wimpy the British police have become, they will blink first.
Michael Copeland says
Pictured: English Defence League clash with anti-fascists during March for England in Brighton
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/march-england-edl-clash-anti-fascists-3466606#ixzz30712h7Lq
David, Thailand says
You are talking to people whose government ignores the arsonist and arrests the person who raised the alarm.
And it’s a conservative government. Just imagine what Labour would do if they get in next year, and for your worst nightmare, consider that Clegg is just a heartbeat away from Number 10.
RIP a once great nation.
FIWI says
I am no fan of Hitchens on religion but do admire his thoughts on other things. However Boston brilliantly and more to the point Aptly used his quote here. I couldn’t agree more with it.
However that said I have to point out once again to Robert and to those who jump on the ‘Britain is done’ hysterical bandwagon that Robert constantly bangs on about with his unadulterated bitterness and spite for being banned from Britain ( something thousands of people angrily disagreed with here) has gone full swing in the other direction now and is leading many thousands of people around the globe to hold ALL OF GREAT BRITAIN AND IT’S 55 MILLION CITIZENS in utter dismissive, contemptuous disregard. He and his few blindly following, unthinking ‘Amen Yes Men’ on here ( note I said few, by no means all), seem to have lost the ability to separate the handful of clueless short term in power lefties with the ENTIRE population here and that is leading even those of us who do admire your work to feel absolute disgust and frustration at the unending vitriolic contempt being poured upon us and our country by you.
You, Robert ( and the few unthinking yes men) need to clearly define the numbers of which you speak. You continuously paint a picture of the WHOLE of Britiain being under Islamic Rule and Torment and it is UTTER TOSH !!! STOP GARNERING HATE AGAINST AND FROM THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY. START showing the ‘sliver’ of mental case mohammedans and lefties who GET ALL the attention in the correct context of percentages. You constantly scream about the leftist media obscurring the facts, Yet You are literally turning your own supporters against you in disgust – by doing the exact same thing by incorrectly and constantly dumping all of us into your self generated theoretical ‘Dhimmified Britain,The land of No Rights, pride or strength, where we all walk about veiled and cowed by the muslims, ALL just accepting OUR FATE as dealt to us by our Stone Age Superiors’ It is Utter B.S and needs to stop.
If you cannot control your virtiolic hate for the TEMPORARY Clueless Govt in power that banned you, and you are outraged that the UK Govts secret services do not run ALL of their strategies through you first for approval, then I suggest you just stop writing about it at all for a while until your mind clears and you are able to look at and report on the situation factually and with objectivity. Frankly YOU are causing more damage to the British Isles right now than the Islamic Nutters are. You are mongering the perception to our friends, allies and fellow democracries into one of the absolute dismissal submission of the UK with your ridiculous, hysterically exagerated rhetoric of ‘It’s so OVER, Over There, they’re done, throw them in the bin and move on to those we can save’ Self Aggrandizing BullS…T
So they banned you Robert, You’re a big boy, GET OVER IT. It’s not like you were single handedly going to come to Britain as the caped crusader sent to save us ‘doomed’ from our own destruction. You are merely ONE in an army of many many voices worldwide from the UK, US, Australia, Germany, Canada, France, Switzerland, and MANY european countries, who are banging the drum of warning. For that you should be commended and I do commend you. But by NO MEANS whatsoever does this give you the RIGHT to continously, unendingly spew ‘ The Sky is Falling, It’s the end of the UK and Europe Phoney Prophecies’ throughout your website DAILY against our Very Strong, Very Proud, MILLIONS of United KIngdom Patriots. KNOCK THAT SH. T OFF !!!! IT IS AN UNJUST, INSULTING, AND FALSE REPRESENTATION OF THE FACTS.
You have MASSIVE issues with Islam in the US ( i lived there for 20 years until just recently), Much more so there than here. Yet you don’t CEASELESSLY SCREAM ABOUT THAT AS MUCH AS YOU DO THE UK. WHY IS THAT? Is your Rage at entry denial so fierce that it is blinding your objectivity this LONG AFTER THE FACT. Step back and take a long hard look at your reporting and judge yourself. Because I fear if you don’t then your hysterical doomsday warnings are not only going to continue to miss the target they are going to backfire and you will lose many supporters who have become so disgusted and disillusioned by your disproportionately biased reporting that they will simply turn their back on you for more grounded, realistic, objective factual reporters in this arena who inform and warn without the uncalled for unjustified ego – driven dramatics. NUFF SAID?
Chervil says
Unfortunately true, Mr Spencer seems to be showing contempt for Britain now. If this impression is false then he needs to make that clear, drop the peevishness. We in Britain are getting tired of being insulted en masse.
To' Azeredo says
So who is truly showing contempt fro Britain???
The British Police, which arrested Mr. Weston for the crime of quoting Prime Minister Churchill, or Mr. Spencer who reported this arrest.
Antethemis says
Britons are goats to be slaughtered. And slaughtered they will be.
Jay Haldy says
Fiwi. So,, from reading your post. Your upset at Robert for reporting this arrest. Not the police who arrested and their reason for it??
Your upset because Robert is pointing out the demise of your country? How your PM and elites cow tow to Islamists in your country?
You think the US has more of a problem than your country with Islamists? Show me one spot in the US where citizens or police are afraid to go?? We all know that does exist in your country. And in your country Sharia courts are popping up. LOL!!!
We are a free people and will always carry arms here. Hence. That stuff will never happen here.
Good day mate!!
defcon 5 says
Dearbornistan, Michigan springs to mind — an islamic mini-state right here on US soil.
islamisdeath says
How bout Minnesotinstan? The Somali immigrant capital of the world! Obama et al are working hard to take our right to bear arms and I personally know lots of stupid lefty’s, mostly over 30 unmarried women who are willing to kill us all to stop us from owning guns to kill people with. The US my friend is in the deep end treading water!
islamisdeath says
I know that I personally when I make statements regarding the loss of Britain I do so not to denigrate Britain but because I so mourn the loss of such a wonderful country and it’s indigenous inhabitants. My ancestors, including recent generations, have been in the US since before our revolution but every one of them were from the UK. I am 100% Anglo and proud. I feel your pain and I fear we here in the US are standing in line to have our heads severed at the same chopping block. God bless the UK and God bless America. We both need his blessings.
voegelinian says
“seem to have lost the ability to separate the handful of clueless short term in power lefties with the ENTIRE population here”
Until I see a public demonstration of Englishmen and women at least one million strong, I reasonably conclude the vast majority are clueless idiots as are the vast majority in every Western country.
I thus certainly agree that England should not be singled out; but on the other hand, one should not ridiculously exaggerate the Islamo-awareness of “the People”.
Michael Copeland says
Yes, when it comes to Islamo-awareness we can “reasonably conclude the vast majority are clueless”. It is not certain, yet, that they are “idiots”. All are endlessly fed with taqiyya about “extremists misunderstanding etc.etc.”.
This little incident, because it is so shameful, will begin to enlighten more of the sleeping telly-drugged British. Social media supply what the lame mainstream media fail to cover.
A little experiment: go to https://www.facebook.com/britainfirstgb
notice the number of “likes”.
Leave the site up for a short while.
Later, noting the number, exit and return.
Notice the new number: it is growing all the time.
Over 2 million are “talking about this”
cremaster says
Britain First describes itself as a “patriotic party and street defence organisation”
WHY SPLIT THE VOTE? Why not just support UKIP?
kikorikid says
Your “millions of United Kingdom Patriots” need
to “Stand-Too!”, NOW.
Edward Cline says
If a big percentage of the British population did “stand to,” you’d wind up with a three-way civil war: between the patriots, the Muslims, and the government. And guess whose side the Crown would come down on (while seeming not to favor one or the other)?
defcon 5 says
So now you’ve explained why they’ve given up and accepted their fate as dhimmis to islam0nazism. If no one had stood up to the nazis, they never would’ve been defeated.
john spielman says
Dear FIWI; fyi (for you information) Robert Spencer is simply reporting info on the UK, SO DON’T GET YOUR KNICKERS IN A KNOT! He is, without a doubt, a modern day Churchill and without him an Geller and hundreds (not thousands )of others, I believe the message would not get out about Islam. Churchill was a voice in the wilderness in the early 1930’s and few were listening just as now few listen and more ridicule, but soon unless the government of the UK wakes up it will be too late to avoid civil war.
WVinMN says
Stuff it you pretentious cowardly ass! Your ignorance is only surpassed by your blatant stupidity! Step back for a second and THINK about a so called free nation banning an American citizen from entering their country for the sole reason that the SAVAGES in said country may take issue with his admittance. As bad as it is in the states, we have yet to completely submit to the death cult. And btw dipshit, try entering “Bush”, “Obama”, “Kerry”, “State Dept.”, “Pentagon”, “Clinton”, “Holy Land Foundation”, “CAIR” into the search bar above. All those posts that come up have two things in common; islam and the US. Now get your dirty ass out of here and NEVER come back!
Kathy Brown says
There is no American who loves England more than I. I’m the widow of a wonderful Englishman who left us too soon. I’ve both lived in, and visited England, and I love England and the British as I love my own country.
FIWI: You’re shooting at the wrong target. We’re all aghast at the horror of Islam; after all it’s not so long ago that wasn’t the daily nightmare of us all. It’s only 13 yrs. !
Pamela and Robert, and the few stalwarts who relentlessly SPEAK THE TRUTH ABOUT THE INTRINSIC ROT AT THE HEART OF ALL THINGS ISLAMIC, are targets of these murderers. Please FIWI: Leave a little room for them to be just as we all are-our heads on a swivel 24/7 because with this filth, one has no time to even recover from one atrocity before the next is upon us.
I will never believe, until I see it (God forbid) that the nation which singlehandedly preserved Western Civilization from the Hun-under that same Winston Churchill!-has finally capitulated to Islam. I will not. FIWI: We are on the same side.
God reward you for your love of country dear friend.
Johnny Canuck says
I suspect Weston chose the site and the text with the purpose of being arrested. What better way to get national and international coverage of the absurdity of the present British government’s stand on all things Islamic. Good on Mr. Weston.
dumbledoresarmy says
Yes. I think you’re right.
What has to happen now is that throughout the Anglosphere, and then beyond in the Rest of the West, and even beyond *that*, all those who because of jihadwatch and similar sites are “awake up”, have to figure out how they are going to capitalise on the opportunity that Mr Weston’s action has potentially created.
Even if only by *doing exactly as he has done*, but in large groups, in many different places. Publicly quoting, or putting on public display, the exact same text.
bobm says
Given what I regularly see and hear uttered and written in streets by the followers of darkness; I wonder how it is that the jails are not stuffed to the bars with bellowing fur balls . ..on their way to paradise… How is it that ANY of their hairy asses still reside in any non mordorian land.
Edward Cline says
Why? Because both our governments — the UK’s and the US’s — welcomed them in mass quantities, knowing full well that they don’t belong in the West. But, the purpose of letting them invade our countries was to advance the collapse of the West. And to make us bow to Mecca. Speaking for myself, that’s not something that’s in my own schedule.
RDC says
Mr. Churchill was absolutely, and categorically correct. Islam is a taint on the world; a weak attempt by a pedophile to unite Judaism, and Christianity under a “new revelation” with Arabs as supreme. Unfortunately, the apologists do not see that a war related to the creeds is already here, and will continue until it envelops the world with mass bloodshed. It is tragic that here in the West we have allowed leaders to get into power that have a myopic view of history, are being advised by moderates that have no concept of it either, and a populace, that are so affluent, that they “just don’t want to be bothered with messy details”, such that one day when we have to fight them they will say – “how did this happen?”.
Tragic…
Wilberforce says
Kudos to Paul Weston of the Liberty GB Party (UK) for drawing attention to the absurdity of the law restricting free speech by quoting one of Britain’s greatest historical icons – Sir Winston Churchill. If Charles Dickens were alive to day he would repeat his famous assessment of idiotic laws – “the law is an ass” ! Hopefully, Paul Weston’s point will be seen by all sane and rational people in the UK and beyond. North Americans salute you Paul. Keep on for liberty in the UK and Europe.
Salah says
I’ve said before, and I’ll say it again, and again:
The ONLY way to peaceably save Britain is…the Egyptian Way.
http://crossmuslims.blogspot.com/2013/07/the-end-of-muslim-brotherhood.html
defcon 5 says
Oh, so the persecution of people of other faiths has stopped in Egyptistan has it? Is it now legal to criticise pisslam or its holey prophet in Egyptistan?
Salah says
You’re either unable or unwilling to understand.
The Egyptian Way I’m talking about is the people, the WHOLE people, taking to the streets to bring down a government. That’s the only way to do it peaceably.
The problem with the West in general is that governments, both Right and Left, are in bed with the enemy. So there is no way to chose or elect a good government. Both has to go.
Only the people (the masses) can achieve such an endeavour and restore a patriotic government.
defcon 5 says
I’d say it’s you whose unwilling to understand. You write about Egypt as if it’s a liberal, tolerant democracy instead of the Jew hating islamic state it is. I’ve met Coptic Christians who don’t think Egyptistan was much better under Nasser, Sadat or Mubarak than it was under Morsi — and neither did Egypt’s Jewish population, who have all but disappeared from Egyptistan due to endless islam0nazi persecution.
Salah says
@defcon 5
Egypt is still a Muslim country, it is not liberal, it is not a tolerant democracy, and, as all islamic countries, it is a Jew hating islamic state. This, I totally agree with you.
However, things ARE changing. After one year of Islamic rule, the people realized that that’s not what they want. And they DID something about it, and they brought the MB down. So, Egypt is far from being perfect, but it is on the right path.
As for Nasser, he was a secular ruler, he was the one who paid for and built a Cathedral for the Copts. During his rule, Copts were protected and there was not one single act of terrorism against Christians. Why? because the MB thugs and their supporters were where they belong: in prison.
thomas_h says
I must disagree, Salah.
The situation in UK is quite different from what it was in Egypt a year ago. Without heavy involvement of the military the “Egyptian Way” would have lead to a defeat of the opponents of the Moslem Brotherhood.
In the UK the military is a perfectly unpolitical body following the decisions of the Government. It would take a total breakdown of the social order followed by violence, chaos and anarchy for military to get involved – hopefully on the right side.
dickeybettman says
I haven’t read all the 123 previous comments. So maybe some one else has asked : what exactly is Weston being charged with?
tpellow says
This brutal repression of free speech by an educated Englishman, Paul Weston, is being virtually ignored, or politically condoned by the main political parties and MSM in U.K.
Virtually the only journalistic organ which is drawing attention to this vital case, apart from ‘Liberty GB’, is ‘Jihadwatch,’ which itself is subject to the repression of the British state.
voegelinian says
By the way, in the bloody “River War” fighting against the British army, many of the front line mujahideen warriors were Sufi “Dervishes”.
Yet another datum that should serve as one of dozens of nails in the coffin of the preposterous and asinine — yet, alas, still all too commonly believed — “Sufism is peaceful mysticism” Canard.
Hummer says
Churchill said it all and how long ago?? Uk is gone and US is not far behind.
dumbledoresarmy says
SO?
Why feed the triumphalism of the mohammedans who lurk or post here, by wailing or croaking that all is lost?
What are *you* doing? Anything?
If you’re in the UK, I damn well hope you’re contributing toward Mr Weston’s legal expenses, and – at the very least – writing a few letters to politicians on his behalf.
If you’re in the USA, are you a member of ACT for America, and putting something in Mr Spencer’s tip jar every now and again?
Ever heard of the much-cliched expression, “better to light a candle than curse the darkness”??
Are *you* lighting any candles?
defcon 5 says
Maybe it’s time to take off the rose-colored glasses.
dumbledoresarmy says
I am not wearing rose-coloured glasses nor advising anyone else to do so.
I am choosing – as a deliberate act, coldly and clearly – to exercise the virtue of Hope.
Which is not a “natural” virtue – like Fortitude, Temperance, Prudence or Justice – but a *supernatural* and theological virtue.
thomas_h says
“I am choosing – as a deliberate act, coldly and clearly – to exercise the virtue of Hope.”
Glad to read your answer.
When asked if I am optimist, or pessimist about the outcome of our clash with Islam, I always say: neither, because I have Hope.
islamisdeath says
Are you a muslim? Just curious.
Michael Copeland says
To save scrolling through all the previous comments:
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Churchill on Islam: Wallet Cards
“No Stronger Retrograde Force Exists in the World”
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Edward Cline says
The revised Churchill speech, adapted to conform to the current policy of Her Majesty’s Government: “We will not fight the Muslim invaders. We will let them come here through the Chunnel, we shall let them land at the airports, we shall let them piss on our beaches, we shall let them sit in Parliament, we shall allow them to despoil our daughters and castrate our sons, we shall run to the hills, shaking the butt ends of broken beer bottles at them.”
Michael Copeland says
He spent several hours in a cell at Winchester Police Station, after which the original charge of breaching a Section 27 Dispersal Notice was dropped and Mr Weston was “re-arrested” for a Racially Aggravated Crime, under Section 4 of the Public Order Act, which carries a potential prison sentence of 2 years.
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james says
I hope this goes to court. What a humiliation to two great things that the British hold dear..the rule of law and Churchill. I foreshadow Judges weeping on the bench as they rule, recognizing what they have lost and what the class they belong to has allowed to happen.
Thersites says
Britain’s present dismal situation did not happen overnight, it has been forty years and more in the making. For all that time, under both Tory and Labour governments, the Moslems flooded in and you, the British people, kept voting for the parties which allowed this. The Salman Rushdie affair was surely a wake-up call, all those angry bearded faces calling for death for those who insult Islam, but no.
So yes, you Brits do deserve contempt for what you have allowed to happen to your country. As you wallow in sentiment over the bravery and sacrifice of those Britons of a century ago, spare a thought for what they were fighting for. To keep the UK as an independent country. To prevent the country from being invaded and taken over by foreigners. To preserve the British way of life. How much of that is left? The heroes of 1914-18 look down from Valhalla and spit on you for betraying their country.
Papa Whiskey says
The next part of the Churchill passage is worthy of note:
“Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science – the science against which it had vainly struggled – the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome.”
At the time of this writing, more than a century ago, Western civilization was indeed still “sheltered in the strong arms of science” — that is, in the quip of Hilaire Belloc, “Whatever happens, we have got / the Maxim gun, and they have not.” Today that disparity is largely gone, as every terr has the power of the Maxim in his folding-stock Kalashnikov.
dumbledoresarmy says
As and when Mr Weston is tried, protests / rallies will I assume be held outside the courthouse.
When that happens, Christians among the protesters could sing *this*: written by a great Englishman whose life overlapped with that of Churchill’s.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmXQpT7W98c
G K Chesterton’s “O God of earth and altar”, written in 1915, but poignantly suitable for the England of today. Note well the words of verse 2.
“From all that terror teaches
from lies of tongue and pen
from all the easy speeches
that comfort cruel men.
“From sale and profanation
of Honour and the sword,
from sleep, and from damnation
deliver us, good Lord!”
Here’s some more Chesterton, also worth reciting outside the courthouse, with intent. It was originally part of his novel “The Flying Inn”. Which takes as its premise a stealth-Islamised England, by the way. Freed, with difficulty.
“Who Goes Home?”
“In the city set upon slime and loam
they say in their parliament, “Who goes home?”
And there comes no ansswer in arch or dome
Yet these shall perish and understand
for God has pity on this great land.
“Men that are men again: who goes home?
Tocsin and trumpeter: Who goes home?
For there’s blood on the field and blood on the foam
and blood on the body when Man goes home.
**And a voice valedictory…Who is for Victory?
Who is for Liberty? Who goes home?**”
“Who is for Victory? Who is for Liberty? Who goes home?”