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UK: Liberty GB’s Paul Weston, arrested for quoting Churchill, could face two years in jail

Apr 27, 2014 6:42 pm By Robert Spencer

Weston arrested2Paul Weston faces two years in prison for quoting Winston Churchill’s less than glowing remarks about Islam. How long would the Cameron government lock away Churchill himself for? After all, a man walking around talking like that could hardly be “conducive to the public good,” now, could he?

An update on this story from Supine Britannia: “Liberty GB’s Paul Weston, Arrested in Winchester for Quoting Churchill, Could Face 2 Years in Jail,” Liberty GB, April 27, 2014:

The leader of the Liberty GB party Paul Weston, who was arrested yesterday for breaching a Section 27 Dispersal Notice, is now possibly facing imprisonment for 2 years.

Mr Weston, a candidate in the 22 May European Elections in the South East, was arrested on 26 April in front of Winchester Guildhall for quoting in public a passage critical of Islam written by Winston Churchill, using a megaphone.

He spent several hours in a cell at Winchester Police Station, after which the original charge of breaching a Section 27 Dispersal Notice was dropped and Mr Weston was “re-arrested” for a Racially Aggravated Crime, under Section 4 of the Public Order Act, which carries a potential prison sentence of 2 years.

He was then fingerprinted and obliged to submit to DNA sampling, following which he was bailed with a return date to Winchester Police on May 24th.

Had the woman who complained to the police made an official statement, Mr Weston would not have been released last night, but fortunately for him she did not.

The case is now being presented to the Crown Prosecution Service. If the CPS decides to prosecute, then Mr Weston will be arrested, awaiting trial, when he presents himself to the police on May 24th.

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  1. KrazyKafir says

    Apr 27, 2014 at 6:47 pm

    There will come a time when the quislings will regret themselves.

    • Shane says

      Apr 28, 2014 at 9:40 am

      Yes, the gutless dhimmis in Europe are enabling Islamic jihad. Unfortunately, most politicians in the USA are equally gutless, except for Allen West and Rep. Peter King.

      • defcon 5 says

        Apr 28, 2014 at 9:56 am

        Allen West was unelected and the democraps made an special effort to do so.

        • Facts of life says

          Apr 28, 2014 at 4:31 pm

          Actually it was the Rino republicans that redistricted to get rid of West.

  2. Jay Boo says

    Apr 27, 2014 at 6:49 pm

    It is good to hear Tony Blair’s comments on that earlier link.
    No one could be arrested for quoting Tony Blair.

  3. Michael Copeland says

    Apr 27, 2014 at 6:57 pm

    Public Order Act 1986
    4 Fear or provocation of violence.
    (1) A person is guilty of an offence if he—
    (a) uses towards another person threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour, or
    (b) distributes or displays to another person any writing, sign or other visible representation which is threatening, abusive or insulting,
    with intent to cause that person to believe that immediate unlawful violence will be used against him or another by any person, or to provoke the immediate use of unlawful violence by that person or another, or whereby that person is likely to believe that such violence will be used or it is likely that such violence will be provoked.
    (http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1986/64)

    A vital component of this offence is the intent to cause belief of “immediate unlawful violence”. There was absolutely no question of such a belief anywhere near Paul Weston. The police are wasting public funds.

    • john spielman says

      Apr 27, 2014 at 8:52 pm

      yes but the threats of violence are not from Weston but from the muslims! so we are responsible to how muslims respond?

      • john spielman says

        Apr 27, 2014 at 8:55 pm

        sorry, how did it triple post?

      • PJG says

        Apr 28, 2014 at 7:37 pm

        But this is the way it is now. We ARE considered responsible for the way Muslims respond. This is a massive change in our societies: the creation of dhimmitude, the Pact of Omar being enforced piecemeal on a formerly free people.

        • dumbledoresarmy says

          Apr 28, 2014 at 11:42 pm

          PJG

          well, perhaps this arrest of Paul Weston can be used as a lever or trigger to try to push things in the other direction.

          Aussie jihadwatchers need to write to the Prime Minister and the Attorney General and cite this case and ask point blank: if someone in Australia, in the middle of a university quadrangle or on the steps of a town or city Hall, were to do *exactly* as Weston did – no more and no less – **would they be arrested and prosecuted**?? And if so: *why*???

          Let’s put them on the spot.

          As for our few Islamosavvy politicians, State and Federal: I suggest they should be “dared” to quote, verbatim, in a speech in Parliament referring to Mr Weston’s arrest, the exact same passage from “The River War”, or else the equally trenchant passage from “The Story of the Malakand Field Force”: (the one that includes the phrase defining Islam as “the religion of blood and war”).

          Let’s dare **Mr Brandeis** to read that specific Churchill passage – the one that has just gotten Mr Weston arrested – out loud **in Parliament**.

          And since the Daily Mail at least had the guts to print the passage verbatim, in full, in its article about Mr Weston’s arrest, let’s send that same passage off to the Australian and the Courier Mail and the Age and the Sydney Morning Herald and the Daily Telegraph, and ask *them* to put it on their front pages – suggested headline – “Briton Arrested, Charged For Quoting Churchill On Islam”.

        • PJG says

          Apr 29, 2014 at 4:57 am

          Good ideas, dda! I’ve already printed out the Churchill quote to stick up at tramstops. The dare to Brandeis: brilliant!

    • john spielman says

      Apr 27, 2014 at 8:53 pm

      yes but the threats of violence are not from Weston but from the muslims! so we are responsible to how muslims respond?

    • john spielman says

      Apr 27, 2014 at 8:53 pm

      yes but the threats of violence are not from Weston but from the muslims! so we are responsible to how muslims respond?

    • s.c. says

      Apr 27, 2014 at 9:33 pm

      i don’t know what Mr. Churchill said but it must have been really bad, as Judicial Watch didn’t have the guts to show the statement, but you must remember that the new mo-slum state of England will not allow its protected class to have their feelings hurt, and all of the USA had better understand that there is a similar law pending in the house and senate. so get yourself a prayer rug to bump your head on as the new mo-slum country of the United States in just over the horizon.

      • dumbledoresarmy says

        Apr 28, 2014 at 5:18 am

        You don’t know which passage from Churchill’s writing Mr Weston read out aloud in public?

        Then click here:

        http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_direct_link.cfm/blog_id/52725

        Saturday, 26 April 2014
        “The Complete Churchill Quote On Islam”

        and find out. And find out some other things that Churchill had to say about Islam, as well.

        • Ann Aitch says

          Apr 28, 2014 at 2:06 pm

          That link doesn’t work; it returns a “closed connection” error.

          Surprise, surprise.

        • dumbledoresarmy says

          Apr 28, 2014 at 9:23 pm

          I observe that the link I gave seemingly doesn’t work.

          let’s try again.

          Oho. I tried looking for New English Review and it appears they are currently (29 April Australian time) under cyberattack. – I can’t open their site at all.

          isn’t that …interesting?

          However, never say die.

          Because I *made a copy on my own computer* of the entire article and associated comments.

          Which I will place here.

          http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_direct_link.cfm/blog_id/52725

          Saturday, 26 April 2014
          The Complete Churchill Quote On Islam

          ‘What Paul Weston is reported to have read out does not contain the last sentence or two.

          ‘Here is the complete quote:

          “How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy.

          “The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live.

          “A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity.

          “The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property – either as a child, a wife, or a concubine – must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.

          “Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the faith: all know how to die but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it.

          “No stronger retrograde force exists in the world.

          ” Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome.”

          ‘The strong arms of science at the time Churchill was writing — 1899 — meant the Gatling gun (“We have the Gatling-gun/And they have not”) but now it means the Western armory of bombers and fighter jets and drones, night-vision goggles and tanks, everything that we have — and so too do Muslim armies, as long as we keep selling them, or still worse giving them, to them, all on the theory that they are our “allies” and engaged in the same fight. They are not allies, they are not engaged in that same fight.’

          Posted on 04/26/2014 10:25 PM by Hugh Fitzgerald [Nota bene – Hugh Fitzgerald was a one-time frequent and notable commenter at this very forum, until a few years ago, when he decided to branch off on his own – dda]

          COMMENTS
          26 Apr 2014

          jeff fixler
          ‘Could it really be true that British police arrested Weston for quoting Churchill? Say it ain’t so! And if it be so, perhaps this is what’s necessary– to hit rock bottom– before we witness some pushback from the restless natives. ‘

          27 Apr 2014
          Christina McIntosh

          Since the subject of what Sir Winston Churchill thought of Islam has come to public attention, here are three other passages that might also profitably be brought before the public gaze.
          Here is the first.
          From an even earlier book, on war in Afghanistan, entitled “The Story of the Malakand Field Force”, the first chapter, “The Theatre of War”.
          “…Every man’s hand is against the other, and all against the stranger..”.
          “…That religion [i.e. ISLAM] which agove all others was founded and propagated by the sword – the tenets and principles of which are instinct with incentives to slaughter and which in three continents has produced fighting breeds of men – stimulates a wild and merciless fanaticism.”…
          “It is, thank heaven, difficult if not impossible for the modern European to fully appreciate the force which fanaticism exercises among an ignorant, warlike and Oriental population.
          “Several generations have elapsed since the nations of the West have drawn the sword in religious controversy, and the evil memories of the gloomy past have soon faded in the strong, clear light of Rationalism and human sympathy. Indeed it is evident that Christianity, however degraded and distorted by cruelty and intolerance, must always exert a modifying influence on men’s passions, and protect them from the more violent forms of fanatical fever, as we are protected from smallpox by vaccination.
          “But the Mahommedan religion increases, instead of lessening, the fury of intolerance.
          “It was originally propagated by the sword, and ever since, its votaries have been subject, above the people of all other creeds, to this form of madness.
          “In a moment the fruits of patient toil, the prospects of material prosperity, the fear of death itself, are flung aside.
          “The more emotional Pathans are powerless to resist. All rational considerations are forgotten. Seizing their weapons they become Ghazis – as dangerous and as sensible as wild dogs: fit only to be treated as such.
          “While the more generous spirits among the tribesmen become convulsed in an ecstasy of religious bloodthirstiness, poorer and more material souls derive additional impulses from the influence of others, the hopes of plunder, and the joy of fighting.
          “Thus whole nations are roused to arms.
          “Thus the Turks repel their enemies, the Arabs of the Soudan break the British squares, and the rising on the Indian frontier spreads far and wide.
          “In each case civilisation is confronted with militant Mahommedanism.
          “The forces of progress clash with those of reaction.
          “The religion of blood and war is face to face with that of peace.
          “Luckily the religion of peace is usually the better armed.”
          END QUOTE.
          Nota bene: when Churchill used the phrase “the religion of peace”, he meant Christianity.
          It was Islam that he summed up, with his usual ringing clarity, as “the religion of blood and war”.
          Because that is what it is.
          Time for Churchill’s definition of Islam – the religion of blood and war – to “go viral”, on the internet and everywhere else.

          27 Apr 2014
          Christina McIntosh

          And now for Churchill on Islam, Quote the Second.
          From a speech entitled “Our Duty in India”, which was given on March 18 1931, in London.
          http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=1191
          There are passages in it that have dated, and passages that some Indians – non-Muslim Indians – might take issue with, but there is just one sentence in it that is immortal, that no intelligent and well-informed non-Musilm whether Indian or otherwise should argue with, and that deserves to be better known.
          It runs like this:
          “While the Hindu elaborates his argument, the Moslem sharpens his sword”.
          One may substitute “Christian” for “Hindu”, in that sentence; one may substitute “Buddhist” or “Jew”, and it is still recognisable as a broad statement of fact, about radically-contrasting belief systems.

          27 Apr 2014
          Christina McIntosh

          And now for my Quote The Third, Churchill on Islam, or in this case, on Muslim-dominated Mesopotamia, i.e. Iraq, in 1922.
          It may be read in the Churchill Papers, 17/27, his letter to David Lloyd George on 1 September 1922, edited by Martin Gilbert.
          “I am deeply concerned about Iraq. The task you have given me is becoming really impossible. Our forces are reduced now to very slender proportions. The Turkish menace has got worse; Feisal is playing the fool if not the knave…
          “…At present we are paying eight millions a year for the privilege of living on an ungrateful volcano out of which we are in no circumstances to get anything worth having.”
          There are American generals, perchance, here and there today, who if that passage were read to them, might have the wit to see that that deadly phrase – “an ungrateful volcano” – is not only a very good description of Islam-maddened Iraq as experienced by Americans in the course of the past twelve years or so, but also an excellent and entirely true description of Islamic Afghanistan, and Islamic Pakistan, and any other Islamic anything one might care to name, of all those Islamic entities into whose gaping maws American dollars and – in many cases – the lives of American soldiers have been poured or are still pouring. All, all , all of them – Saudi Arabia, the Gulf states, the Pooor “Palestinians” [tm], Pakistan, Indonesia, Turkey, Afghanistan, Iraq, Jordan, Egypt…ungrateful volcanoes, all.

          27 Apr 2014
          Christina McIntosh

          There is another passage from the original 1899 edition of “The River War” which perhaps also requires to be better known.
          He is describing the decision to go to war against the slave-lord and slave-raiding and mass-murderous “Mahdi”.
          “No terms but fight or death were offered.
          “No reparation or apology could be made.
          “The red light of retribution played on the bayonets and lances, and civilization –
          “elsewhere sympathetic, merciful, tolerant, ready to discuss or to argue, eager to avoid violence, to submit to law, to effect a compromise –
          “here advanced with an expression of inexorable sternness, and, rejecting all other courses, offered only the arbitration of the sword”. END
          It seems that no Power in the entire non-Muslim world has yet woken up and fully, consciously realized that the petrodollar-fuelled and massively-emboldened Ummah, or Mohammedan Mob, currently carrying out brazen attacks and also infiltrating and corrupting and deeply-damaging five inhabited continents, may well have to be met, in many places, on many embattled boundaries, in exactly the manner that Churchill described in his account of the Sudan campaign. That the Christians and animists of Kenya and Uganda, the Christians of Ethiopia and of the Central African Republic, are already in that terrible place…and the Buddhists of Thailand and of Myanmar are finding themselves there also. That the Jewish state of Israel is on that same front-line, where the sword of Islam – the ravening, murderous mobs of Islam – must be resolutely met, over and over and over again, stopped in its tracks, driven back, and then forced to remain in the place to which it has been driven.’

          With any luck, New English Review’s tech folks will get themselves back up and running in due time.

    • DVult says

      Apr 27, 2014 at 9:55 pm

      How about when muslims parade around with signs advocating beheading?

      • sidney penny says

        Apr 28, 2014 at 3:57 am

        (1) A person is guilty of an offence if he—

        (b) distributes or displays to another person any writing, sign or other visible representation which is threatening, abusive or insulting,…

        sign says -“behead all those who insult the prophet”

        http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/behead-sign-child-deemed-safe-as-mother-talks-to-police-20120918-26368.html

    • Charli Main says

      Apr 28, 2014 at 3:23 am

      The police are probably fully aware that they won´t be able to make any charges against Mr Weston stick.
      The real purpose of this arrest was to “instil fear and intimidation” in observers and passers bye——” this is what will happen to you, if you do or say anything to upset the Muslims”.
      Know your place Britannia—we are watching you !!!!!!!

    • Joe Pk. says

      Apr 28, 2014 at 9:44 am

      Paul Weston is now a political prisoner. His actions were purely political in nature, and the only laws he broke were meant to prevent unwanted (by some) political activity.

      • richard Sherman says

        Apr 28, 2014 at 10:01 am

        The MSM including the BBC will not touch this story because if they do…they will have use Churchill’ s accurate quote about Islam…and they will be sending their readers, listeners and viewers to the library to read more of Churchill’ s prescient statements about Islam.

        • madge hirsch says

          Apr 28, 2014 at 8:51 pm

          BBC has run the story online. Daily Mail had full quote helpfully highlighted in blue box to make it more visible.

      • harbidoll says

        Apr 28, 2014 at 11:38 am

        isn’t that how tommy robinson was broken. in jail? he came out different.

    • Shane says

      Apr 28, 2014 at 9:49 am

      Basically, the police are enforcing Islamic blasphemy laws, as Obama did when he had the maker of the anti-Muhammad video arrested.

    • defcon 5 says

      Apr 28, 2014 at 9:58 am

      What about the quotes in the ahadith of islam that call for the extermination of Jews don’t they count as being threatening? What about the rabid, pervasive Jew hatred found in all the holey books of islam, don’ they count as being insulting (i.e. to Jews)?

  4. richard Sherman says

    Apr 27, 2014 at 7:02 pm

    Churchill wrote the complete truth about Islam…when he said 1948: “MEIN KAMPF was the new KORAN”…Also he was 100 percent correct when he wrote: “Islam in a man is as dangerous as rabies in a dog.”

    • Isabella says

      Apr 27, 2014 at 8:10 pm

      Gee, we need another Churchill!

      • richard Sherman says

        Apr 27, 2014 at 8:27 pm

        You got that right!…we need politicians who appreciate how prescient Churchill was about Islam and Muslims. Their names are NOT Obama and Cameron.

        • richard Sherman says

          Apr 28, 2014 at 10:30 pm

          Thank fo the update. A bit surprised….this may be a stretch, but possibly arresting citizens for just reading the books of Winston Churchill may be the straw that breaks the camel’s ( Muslims’) back…in that finally people who have not reacted to Muslims 1400 year jihad/slaughter of millions of “infidels”…Will wake up to the pure evil of Islam by finding out that just reading Winston Churchill ‘s prescient words about Islam can have you thrown in prison for two years thanks to the DHIMMI Cameron..could this be that wake up call?

      • gerard says

        Apr 28, 2014 at 12:41 pm

        Yes, but like Churchill they are sidelined like Paul Weston..

      • Joe Murphy says

        Apr 28, 2014 at 12:46 pm

        You say you need another Churchill. Paul Weston may be another Churchill. There are others. The deficit is not in potential politicians who can see the problems, but in the electorate who can not.

        • EYESOPEN says

          Apr 28, 2014 at 5:51 pm

          You are so right.

    • dumbledoresarmy says

      Apr 28, 2014 at 5:38 am

      Strictly speaking, he didn’t say “Islam in a man is as dangerous as rabies in a dog.”

      This is what he actually wrote, in The River War, in the original unabridged 1899 edition: “How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides **the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog** [my emphasis – dda], there is this fearful fatalistic apathy.”

      That is, it is the “fanatical frenzy”, one of the *fruits* or *effects* of Islam, which is “as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog”.

      We owe it to ourselves, to the great man, and to those we are attempting to instruct, to be precisely accurate in our quotations.

      • richard Sherman says

        Apr 28, 2014 at 10:47 am

        Hydrophobia is rabies…

        • defcon 5 says

          Apr 28, 2014 at 4:02 pm

          I had thought a phobia was a fear? In the instant case a fear of water.

        • EYESOPEN says

          Apr 28, 2014 at 5:55 pm

          for Defcon5: “Hydrophobia” was a term given to rabies because the virus attacks the nervous system; and in many cases affects the nerves and muscles of the throat, making it difficult, if not impossible, to swallow.

      • jack diamond says

        Apr 28, 2014 at 12:42 pm

        dda is not being pedantic. A paraphrase is not an accurate quote. Those, like dda, who have had years of “debating” Muslims and their apologists (left or right) are meticulously accurate in what they write and quote because they are always accused of inserting their own opinions (paraphrasing) and otherwise taking “out of context” the texts of Islam, the history of Islam, what scholars and writers have said about Islam, for reasons of writing hate-motivated anti-Muslim propaganda.

        All that has to be reported is the truth. Islam cannot bear scrutiny which is why criminalizing criticism (i.e. examination) of Islam is such a priority for the “Muslim World.” Killing, arresting, suing, shouting down, intimidating those who would bring these truths into broad daylight (the best disinfectant) is the only weapon they have left given their intellectual bankruptcy. It works, like it’s always worked for thugs and gangsters, until it no longer works.
        Paul Weston’s recount of his arrest included an off the record talk with a policeman who privately told him “we are essentially at war in this country.” At least one policeman knows it. What that war is, what motivates it, and what “we” are doing to win that war would have been my next question. What “we” are doing to lose that war is self-evident.

  5. Michael Copeland says

    Apr 27, 2014 at 7:02 pm

    We all know “The “Unacceptable Behaviour” of Robert Spencer”, and how this is “not conducive to the public good”.
    http://libertygb.org.uk/v1/index.php/home/root/news-libertygb/5865-the-unacceptable-behaviour-of-robert-spencer

  6. Michael Copeland says

    Apr 27, 2014 at 7:05 pm

    Print-Your-Own
    Churchill on Islam: Wallet Cards
    “No Stronger Retrograde Force Exists in the World”
    Can be downloaded at:
    http://libertygb.org.uk/v1/index.php/home/root/news-libertygb/6066-churchill-on-islam-wallet-cards

    • Davegreybeard says

      Apr 27, 2014 at 9:43 pm

      A most excellent idea, Michael! I have downloaded the pdf and will deploy them at targets of opportunity. There needs to a lot of this if Britain is to survive.

      I also have a handout which is considerably more lengthy. It has a brief biography of Muhammad from the “Sirat Rasul Islam”, the main “principles” and “objective” of Islam and selected verses from the Quran. All on a single, two sided 8X14 sheet that can be folded down into a business card sized handout. I carry 3 when I am “out and about.”

      I last used one at a BBQ, where I unfolded it and referred to it as I was explaining to a young man “why they want to kill us.” I gave it to him at the end of the discussion.

      So, I believe in “handouts” and I will keep the Churchill card as an alternative, depending on the situation.

      • EYESOPEN says

        Apr 28, 2014 at 5:57 pm

        DaveGreybeard: Do you have a link to your handout? Would be very useful. Thanks.

    • apostate says

      Apr 28, 2014 at 4:48 am

      Good idea Michael,i handwrote this same quote on wallet cards 2 years ago!

  7. John says

    Apr 27, 2014 at 7:25 pm

    So Freedom of Speech does not exist in Great Britain? Good to know, I don’t feel bad celebrating the 4th of July!

  8. David says

    Apr 27, 2014 at 7:31 pm

    You cannot get him on one trumped up charge, get him on another. What a bunch of little quasi-totalitarian conspiratorial fools and degenerates.

  9. Jeff says

    Apr 27, 2014 at 7:44 pm

    When are they going to start arresting Muslims for quoting the Qur’an and the Imams for the Friday hate speeches against us kuffar?

    • Richard Sherman says

      Apr 27, 2014 at 8:01 pm

      Never…because Obama and Cameron revere the sociopath Muhammad who personally decapitated 900 unarmed Jews…

    • john spielman says

      Apr 27, 2014 at 9:05 pm

      Only when the nonmuslims start to riot burn and destroy, like muslims do when they get “insulted”

      • rage against injustice says

        Apr 28, 2014 at 1:49 am

        You mean like the bosnian war? Where the muslims tried to ethnic cleanse the serbs, and when the serbs retaliated, NATO made the muslims look like peaceful muslims victims of islamophia. As i said it before it’s just a matter of time before western europe has it’s own bosnian war, and that is really sad.

        • Thoughtful says

          Apr 28, 2014 at 6:23 am

          You have this wrong, and it’s far worse than you think.
          During WWII many Muslims fought for the Nazis and it is believed that Hitler himself may have secretly converted.
          The Muslims in Yugoslavia joined the SS and attacked their compatriots.
          Memories run deep and long, especially when suppressed under Communist rule, but when the pressure valve was released after the Eastern Bloc broke up the inevitable long delayed backlash happened.

        • rage against injustice says

          Apr 28, 2014 at 1:13 pm

          So where do i have this wrong ?? I know the croats and albanias committed horrible atrocities against the serbs during WW2, and after the war tito’s death a war was inevitable, the albanias ( muslims) began committing atrocities agains the serb minorities and began burning churches, then the serbs retaliatied and at the same time committed atrocities against albanias, however NATO made the serbs look as the ONLY bad guys when reality the situation was more of a “dog eats dog” situation they NATO never show the world the atrocities that were being committed by the muslims, NATO only show the world the atrocities by serbs.

      • skai says

        Apr 28, 2014 at 8:43 am

        John Spielman ” Only when the non muslims start to riot burn and destroy, like muslims do when they get ‘ insulted ‘ ” That will NEVER happen, because muslims have put the fear into the hearts of Infidels, so we just keep quite. The muslims know very well that we the Infidels will NOT take any extreme measures against them, so they get more daring. Why do you think Israel survives to this day? Because they will NOT take B.S from Arabs/muslims like we do.
        Now see http://www.thereligionofpeace.com

        • defcon 5 says

          Apr 28, 2014 at 10:01 am

          How many muslimes convicted of killing Jews in Israel have been released again?

  10. Angemon says

    Apr 27, 2014 at 8:24 pm

    “He spent several hours in a cell at Winchester Police Station, after which the original charge of breaching a Section 27 Dispersal Notice was dropped and Mr Weston was “re-arrested” for a Racially Aggravated Crime, under Section 4 of the Public Order Act, which carries a potential prison sentence of 2 years.”

    Racially Aggravated Crime? What crime did he commit and against what race?

    • dumbledoresarmy says

      Apr 28, 2014 at 12:22 am

      I hope he has a damn good lawyer, or lawyers, on retainer.

      I think he knew, or had a pretty good idea, that something like this would happen.

      British jihadwatchers have to get it into the News, where they are.

      The rest of us, in all our separate countries, have to have a go at prodding *our* media into taking notice.

      If we all send them the story, and suggest strongly that they start covering it, then at least *our* consciences will be clear.

      Because if this thing can be got into the News, somehow, then the process of self-education of the general unwashed infidel public may be hurried up a little, as thousands – perhaps many thousands – of the suddenly-mildly-curious grab their iphones or their tablets, or whatever, and call up google or suchlike, and idly key in the search terms “Churchill Islam”.

      • Chervil says

        Apr 28, 2014 at 3:45 am

        Yes.

  11. PGuud says

    Apr 27, 2014 at 8:30 pm

    The Muslims are Muslim. They are what they are, in accordance with their false and evil religion. Everyone else–every citizen of the free world–should know better than to run interference for them or facilitate their aggression.

    Don’t the British value freedom? The streets of the U.K. should be burning.

    Islam: where freedom ends and slavery begins.

  12. ApolloSpeaks says

    Apr 27, 2014 at 8:43 pm

    LET’S ABOLISH FROM MEMORY THE 20TH CENTURY

    For the Islamophobe Churchill was its greatest man.

    http://www.apollospeaks.com

  13. Lawrence says

    Apr 27, 2014 at 8:53 pm

    I think that there is a vital need for one of the British universities to hold a symposium on Winston Churchill’s analyses of Islam . Arguably the greatest British
    citizen of the 20th Century, his prescient observations of islam from his perch in the Sudan and the Middle East should be cause for deep discussion in Britain and the West. His statement that “there is no greater retrograde force in civilization han Mohammedism” should easily be the thesis for debate.
    Why is that not being done ?
    Bring on the Muslims who want to destroy Western institutions and ideals !
    There grotesque tenets, too, will eventually be relegated to the dustbin of history !

    • richard Sherman says

      Apr 27, 2014 at 9:45 pm

      Great idea…but today there is no difference between a British University and an Al Queda university….sort of like Brandeis…

  14. Boston Tea Party says

    Apr 27, 2014 at 9:18 pm

    I think this is something that we probably all need to expect in the coming years, in all countries in the west. The authorities, and the ruling elite, will really be left with few options. Many countries of the west essentially bet their civilization on the premise that Muslim immigrants would embrace modern western liberal values, and would discard traditional Islamic values, when presented with a choice. The idea that this might not happen never really occurred to them, and there is no “plan b”.

    As the problem becomes more obvious, I think you’ll see western governments trying to keep a lid on the pressure cooker by occasionally banning a Robert Spencer, Pam Gellar or a Paul Weston—and maybe occasionally banning a Muslim extremist. Shutting down free speech and public debate is the only thing they can do without actually admitting the scope of the problem—which they will most likely never do. I apologize for not remembering the name of the poster, but one Jihad Watch poster said “it’s like juggling flaming torches while standing in a pool of gasoline—they can’t keep it up forever, but they can’t stop, either.” I think that’s a very accurate assessment.

  15. zulu says

    Apr 27, 2014 at 11:05 pm

    U.K. calls on mothers to deter sons from joining jihad

    LONDON: British police are asking Muslim women to dissuade young people in their communities from going to fight in Syria, the latest tactic by a government worried about the security risk posed by young people radicalized by war.

    Governments estimate that several thousand Europeans have gone to Syria since the war against President Bashar Assad started three years ago. The Dutch said this week that dozens of its citizens had been radicalized in Syria, and France announced its own measures to counter the phenomenon.

    Read more: http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Middle-East/2014/Apr-25/254314-uk-calls-on-mothers-to-deter-sons-from-joining-jihad.ashx#ixzz3098naG00
    (The Daily Star :: Lebanon News :: http://www.dailystar.com.lb)

  16. Salah says

    Apr 27, 2014 at 11:48 pm

    Where are the masses? you need to get organized; massive demonstrations and a general strike will bring the government down. What are you waiting for? Stand up, man up, fight for your liberties!

    • s.c. says

      Apr 27, 2014 at 11:59 pm

      Are you in England? if so then you need to do just as you want others to do, but if you happen to live in some other country i doubt that a protest would do any good. besides that they usually don’t accomplish much anyway.

      • Salah says

        Apr 28, 2014 at 12:27 am

        I don’t live in England, but I know that protests do achieve a lot. The key word is : MASSIVE protests.
        Here’s a recent example:
        http://crossmuslims.blogspot.com/2013/07/the-end-of-muslim-brotherhood.html

  17. No Fear says

    Apr 28, 2014 at 1:24 am

    Heading off to add a few dollars to Weston’s legal fund.

    I wonder what the British Home Office makes of all this.

  18. Brian Hoff says

    Apr 28, 2014 at 1:52 am

    Rep King of Long Island New York State is kissing muslim rear end to be re-electic in his new dirict make up of democrate and entic minorites of which many are muslim. He just darely won in 2012 against than unknow democrate woman with harly any money to sent against his war chest.

    • PJG says

      Apr 28, 2014 at 9:06 am

      Getting a bit sick of your new co-religionists, eh?

  19. Bonzo says

    Apr 28, 2014 at 2:24 am

    No mention of the Weston arrest on the BBC or other mainstream media. Outrageous.

    • tpellow says

      Apr 28, 2014 at 5:57 am

      Yes, the BBC is blatantly pro-Islamic in all things.

      It ran political campaigns in support of Muslims in Guantanamo: Binyam Mohamed and Shaker Aamer, but censors the freedom of speech case of Englishman, Paul Weston, of ‘Liberty GB’.

    • Maniraja says

      Apr 28, 2014 at 8:54 am

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-27186573

      • tpellow says

        Apr 28, 2014 at 9:50 am

        At last, the pro-Islam BBC reports the imprisonment of Paul Weston, ‘Liberty GB’, but a day late, and as a local matter.

        • richard Sherman says

          Apr 28, 2014 at 10:24 am

          DidTHE BBC report the ENTIRE Churchill quotation that Weston read? If not, that’s not reporting. It is like “reporting” on the riots staged by millions of Muzzies because of cartoons, but not printing the cartoons..

    • Mirren10 says

      Apr 28, 2014 at 6:59 pm

      The Daoly Mail has covered it.

      • dumbledoresarmy says

        Apr 28, 2014 at 9:32 pm

        Just checked. Yes, they have.

        Good on ’em!!

        AND they’ve included the offending quote.

        Yippee!!

        Stand by for 1000s of new hits on jihadwatch, etc, as curious Britons try a little quiet googling…

        I observe that as of my time of reading, the article had been “shared” some 1719 times.

        Those of us who are on FB know what we have to do…

        • dumbledoresarmy says

          Apr 28, 2014 at 9:34 pm

          Link to the Daily Mail’s report on the arrest of Paul Weston.

          http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2614834/Arrested-quoting-Winston-Churchill-European-election-candidate-accused-religious-racial-harassment-repeats-wartime-prime-ministers-words-Islam-campaign-speech.html

          All jihadwatchers please forward this story to your national and local media.

  20. sidney penny says

    Apr 28, 2014 at 3:48 am

    “…. Mr Weston was “re-arrested” for a Racially Aggravated Crime, under Section 4 of the Public Order Act, which carries a potential prison sentence of 2 years.”

    “Racially Aggravated Crime”

    What race is Islam?

    plus no one believed that immediate unlawful violence will be used against him by what Paul Weston was doing.

    Did not the last pope do something like that quoting some Emperor?

  21. Michael Copeland says

    Apr 28, 2014 at 3:58 am

    See “Unacceptable Behaviour and the Home Office”
    http://libertygb.org.uk/v1/index.php/home/root/news-libertygb/5877-unacceptable-behaviour-and-the-home-office

  22. Januk36 says

    Apr 28, 2014 at 5:54 am

    UK seems to be a third class rogue state. I’m sorry but how can a politician be arrested for quoting from a person of historical relevance while muslims walk around threatening non-believers with beheading ? To be frank, the UK is no longer a country I consider safe for my security leave alone dignity.
    —
    “the original charge of breaching a Section 27 Dispersal Notice was dropped and Mr Weston was “re-arrested” for a Racially Aggravated Crime”
    Sounds like any legal pretext would be used to damage his reputation….

  23. duh_swami says

    Apr 28, 2014 at 6:03 am

    Like the US, the UK needs a drastic change in leadership. In the US, don’t expect Hillary to save you, ‘She is of them’…
    It would seem the UK elite are also ‘of them’…But, you know what Mahound did to ‘them’. Being ‘them’ is not as good as being us. But then you really can’t expect them to be with us., since their loyalties are also ‘with them’…The way to deal with them, is to boot them out of office and keep them out. Only the people can do that, so people, get with the program.

  24. tpellow says

    Apr 28, 2014 at 6:10 am

    In effect, the British government is doing the work of the Organization of Islamic Cooperation for it: banning criticism of Islam.

    The British government, led by PM CAMERON, Home Secretary, MAY, and unelected Muslim Minister for Faith, Baroness WARSI have already banned Americans, Pamela Geller (‘Atlas Shrugs’ site), and Robert Spencer (‘Jihadwatch’) from entering Britain. This next step is to ban and imprison any British critics of Islam. Unfortunately for PM Cameron, it is too late for him to imprison Britain’s greatest Prime Minister.

    It must be remembered that there is a General Election in U.K in 2015, which could be close; so the political wooing of votes of over two million Muslims (which usually go to the even more pro-Islamic Labour Party) takes priority over the freedom of any critics of Islam, such as Paul WESTON.

  25. ben t says

    Apr 28, 2014 at 6:22 am

    LET’S BOMBARD THE BRITISH EMBASSY IN WASH. DC WITH CRITICISM OVER THE ARREST OF PAUL WESTON!!! IF I WERE IN ENGLAND I WOULD DO A LOT MORE.

    • dumbledoresarmy says

      Apr 28, 2014 at 9:14 pm

      Yes.

      Americans must do that, in the USA: *inundate* the in-tray of the British embassy.

      Emails, phone calls, postcards, snailmail letters (the snailmail letters are particularly important; it’s easy to click and delete an email, it’s easy to slam down the phone, but a letterbox stuffed full of letters and postcards – with more arriving day after day after day – is a little harder to wish away).

      And there is nothing, nothing at all to prevent US jihadwatchers who happen to live in Washington, DC, from organising a delegation to march to the British Embassy and present a formal statement in support of Paul Weston and in support of Freedom of Speech (for extra points, remind them about John Milton and the Areopagitica). Men: wear **suits**. Ladies: dress up to the nines, formal occasion.

      There’s a British consulate in NYC, I would hazard the guess, and consulates in one or two other places? – target those for actual people-protests, as well.

      Further: Aussie jihadwatchers have to do the same in Australia. Canadians in Canada. Kiwis in New Zealand.

      Time to make noise.

      And write to *our* governments demanding that they put Britain on notice as regards its blatant breach of human rights manifest in this outrageous suppression of Mr Weston’s right to freedom of speech.

  26. ben t says

    Apr 28, 2014 at 6:30 am

    LET’S BOMBARD THE BRITISH EMBASSY WITH PHONE CALLS, E-MAILS, ETC CRITICIZING THEIR CRIMINALIZING OF PAUL WESTON.

  27. mortimer says

    Apr 28, 2014 at 9:05 am

    The Public Order Act was not intended to crack down on free speech, but it has had that unfortunate effect. It’s a law that went too far.

    • mortimer says

      Apr 28, 2014 at 9:11 am

      The Public Order Act makes UK look like a Third-World country where no one has the right to criticize the government. It’s only half a step from that, but any government can theoretically use the act to stop all criticism of a government’s policies.

      • PJG says

        Apr 28, 2014 at 9:30 am

        I first heard of this “public order” thing in the Sudan where the woman got into trouble for wearing trousers. I thought it was a law from “that” kind of country.

  28. mortimer says

    Apr 28, 2014 at 9:16 am

    ‘Racially aggravated’?

    What is the ‘race’ of Islam…a political ideology?

  29. Debellation says

    Apr 28, 2014 at 9:29 am

    This is absolute bullcrap. I wrote an opinion piece on it today called ‘You’re [not] free to speak”. I also addressed the idea of Churchill’s place in today’s society. Britain might as well kiss its ass goodbye, from what I can tell.

    I’m not advertising, I make no money from his shit, but give it a read: http://debellation.com/2014/04/28/youre-not-free-to-speak/

  30. RichardTheLioneheart says

    Apr 28, 2014 at 9:59 am

    This is an unbelievable oppurtunity.

    Public Order Act 1986
    4 Fear or provocation of violence.
    (1) A person is guilty of an offence if he—
    (a) uses towards another person threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour, or
    (b) distributes or displays to another person any writing, sign or other visible representation which is threatening, abusive or insulting,
    with intent to cause that person to believe that immediate unlawful violence will be used against him or another by any person, or to provoke the immediate use of unlawful violence by that person or another, or whereby that person is likely to believe that such violence will be used or it is likely that such violence will be provoked.
    (http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1986/64)

    The Quran contains “writing” far more provocative. If this applies to one side it applies to both. The time has come for the call to ban islamic hate speach under the guise of religous freedom

  31. tpellow says

    Apr 28, 2014 at 10:13 am

    How cool and brilliantly articulate is Paul WESTON, (‘Liberty GB’) under extreme pressure from the British state on the issue of freedom of speech to criticize Islam.

    Suggest: Listen to the 12 minute video clip above in full. Twice.

    He deserves every political, moral and financial support.

    http://libertygb.org.uk/v1/

    • Jay Boo says

      Apr 28, 2014 at 10:43 am

      Thanks for noting that. I did not notice the (mouse over) link in the article at the words ( Liberty GB, April 27, 2014: )

      Good video

    • richard Sherman says

      Apr 28, 2014 at 10:44 am

      Expect The DHIMMI Cameron to support laws banning the reading and study of the writings of Winston Churchill. It is what the MUZZIES and Obama want: Cameron will obey.

  32. andrew says

    Apr 28, 2014 at 10:19 am

    this is so completely insane, it is orwell’s 1984 on steroids. How is Islam a race? I don’t know if you Europeans know how crazy you appear to people in the US.

  33. Aussie David says

    Apr 28, 2014 at 12:29 pm

    Here in Australia a political hopeful got laughed out of town for calling Islam a country. Calling Islam a race is just as stupid as calling Islam a country. This charge should be dismissed in court within 30 seconds on the technicality Islam is NOT a race.

    http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CC0QtwIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.news.com.au%2Fnational%2Fone-nation-candidate-stephanie-banister-8216doesn8217t-oppose-islam-as-a-country8217%2Fstory-fnho52ip-1226693452708&ei=iX1eU_yuPIOqkAW864GwCA&usg=AFQjCNFXtJCawrSkpLGH54fxiBhJUos0uQ&sig2=XzYc4Qk6Fif-K5UsrM38GQ

  34. tpellow says

    Apr 28, 2014 at 1:04 pm

    “Arrested for quoting Winston Churchill: European election candidate accused of religious and racial harassment after he repeats wartime prime minister’s words on Islam during campaign speech.
    “Paul Weston was arrested on the steps of Winchester’s Guildhall.
    “Chairman of Liberty GB was detained on suspicion of racial harrassment.
    “He quoted a passage from Winston Churchill’s 1899 book The River War.”
    –

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2614834/Arrested-quoting-Winston-Churchill-European-election-candidate-accused-religious-racial-harassment-repeats-wartime-prime-ministers-words-Islam-campaign-speech.html#ixzz30CY2gQzz

    • dumbledoresarmy says

      Apr 29, 2014 at 12:17 am

      Bless the Daily Mail and their grubby little cotton socks.

      They have included everything that matters, all ready for thousands upon thousands of people to send the link hither thither and yon.

      FB “shares”, here we come!

      And sendings of the link to the DM article, to every English-language media outfit in every non-Muslim nation within the Commonwealth, with covering note: THIS IS **NEWS**, PLEASE REPORT.

  35. voegelinian says

    Apr 28, 2014 at 1:30 pm

    Winston Churchill, 1874-1965. The 20th century may be divided in half, though the exact fault line of division is not necessarily precise in terms of a year. The first half reflected an Islam sunken into its lowest point ever in all its 1400-year history, epitomized by the abolishment of the Caliphate in 1923. This fact, and the other temporarily greater vicissitudes of Western world wars, would cause a mind as great as Churchill’s to note the problem of Islam as a footnote to an archaic relic of the past, no longer concretely relevant to this new century (except as a historical comparison, viz., Hitler’s Mein Kampf being “the new Koran”).

    Even by the early 1960s as Churchill’s life was winding to a close, the global revival of Islam we have been seeing these past couple of decades was yet not visible. Only someone who had lived at least into the 90s would have seen the new forces coalescing. The Age of Islamic Revival really is this present century, the 21st, whose shot heard, but not really fully digested yet, round the world was 911. This entire century, I predict, will see that Revival get worse and worse, then in rational reaction, the West’s reawakening more and more: to a good end, ultimately, but only after unacceptable losses on our side for which many men and women on our side should be held accountable for dereliction of duty in trials of the aftermath.

    • defcon 5 says

      Apr 28, 2014 at 4:12 pm

      The Islamic Revival might have started earlier than that — as the bodies of some 2.5 million to 3 million Hindus slaughtered by musl0nazis in Bangladesh in the 1970’s should attest or maybe the islamic invasion and ethnic cleansing of 40% of Cyprus by Turkish islam0nazis. Or the islamic genocide carried out in E. Timor by Turkish islam0nazis (and only stopped by the direct, military intervention of AUS). Both the Timorese and Bangladesh genocides are not so much denied as completely ignored by the enemedia and politicians worldwide. In the case of the Bangaldesh genocide it also featured the rape of thousands of Hindu women by muslimes. All of the above occurred in the 1970’s.

      • voegelinian says

        Apr 28, 2014 at 7:32 pm

        Well, Islam is perpetually in “revival” mode since the world around it continues to present resistance in various forms to its ultimate supremacist goal (and also internal weaknesses periodically slow it down). There has definitely been an epochal “uptick” in that perennial revival in the years after 911, given a considerable second wind with the “Arab Spring”, and continuing to snowball as we speak.

  36. Beth says

    Apr 28, 2014 at 4:11 pm

    “Racially Aggravated Crime”

    “How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property – either as a child, a wife, or a concubine – must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the faith: all know how to die but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith.”.

    Will someone please fill me in here? – Which race on earth was mentioned in that Churchill statement?

    It’s no wonder that the Lord said He laughs at the wisdom of this world – no wonder at all!

  37. Hummer says

    Apr 28, 2014 at 6:18 pm

    UK is destroying itself from within by eating its own in the name of political correctness. It’s almost here in US where decisions have to be made to fight this nonsense or be destroyed as a nation. Churchill was and is right.

  38. Realpredictor says

    Apr 28, 2014 at 8:04 pm

    With this arrest it is clear that England is allready totally Islamized. The video below, which is spread all over the internet, is a shameful evidence that the Islamists have taken over the UK and made the police ran away as frightened children.

  39. Tony says

    Apr 28, 2014 at 8:31 pm

    http://www.allaboutmuhammad.com/winston-churchillrsquos-comments-on-islam.html

  40. Realpredictor says

    Apr 29, 2014 at 12:58 am

    Freedom of Speech, one of our main Human Rights, is being violated here!

  41. Karl Garnett says

    May 4, 2014 at 3:48 am

    English People Need to Stand up NOW and SAY NO to All This BS. If you can quote what some Dead person said, then What next. You might as well say Goodbye to the TV or Writing thing down in case you offend someone and also in case you go to jail. If you go to a great country like Britain then there is one thing I would say. If you don’t like what was said then LEAVE, they must remember how they got there to England so just leave the same way you came.

    • richard Sherman says

      May 4, 2014 at 9:00 am

      ENGLAND is finished. The DHIMMI Cameron says “How high?” When the MUZZIES aka Al Queda say “jump”. Cameron had Weston arrested because that is what the MUZZIES wanted. ..Churchill understood the pure unadulterated evil that is Islam, and the MUZZIES therefore want Churchill banned..the Muzzled and Cameron and Obama revere the SOCIOPATH MUHAMMAD WHO PERSONALLY DECAPITATED 900 UNARMED JEWS…The MUZZIES want Weston to suffer the same fate. Cameron will not object.

      • dumbledoresarmy says

        May 6, 2014 at 5:05 am

        It has not yet been decided whether there will be a *trial*.

        What will you do and say if the Crown Prosecutor says not to prosecute?

        And even if Mr Weston is prosecuted…what will you do and say if he is **acquitted**??

        That is perfectly possible. And in the process of the trial, if he plays his cards right, he will have a chance to educate every person present. Not *everyone* present will have a closed mind. Some – the most unexpected people – may learn something. Just imagine if he gets a judge with an open mind and some commonsense? – that is actually not impossible.

        What he has done, is to hand British – and not only British – jihadwatchers a splendid “teaching moment”.

        Now it’s up to them – and all of us, everywhere that we are – to *use* that Teaching Moment, not *waste* it.

        • richard Sherman says

          May 6, 2014 at 8:21 am

          Optimism is fine. I hope you are right. But I believe the damage has been done. What we call in America a “chilling effect”. People may now be hesitant to read or quote Churchill for fear that a MUZZIE or a liberal will complain and then there will be an investigation. Of course every Friday MUZZIES read and quote passages from the Koran that debase Christians and Jews and Cameron approves.

  42. gravenimage says

    Jun 4, 2014 at 6:14 pm

    UK: Liberty GB’s Paul Weston, arrested for quoting Churchill, could face two years in jail
    …………………

    Suicidal madness.

    But I hope ordinary Britons are *enraged* by this.

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