Imagine if a Christian went into a mosque in Britain wearing a bandana that said “Jesus is Lord” and began shouting: “This is rubbish, you should be preaching the Gospel, turn to Christ.” Do you think the story would be found only in one bland article in the Derby Telegraph? Neither do I. Meanwhile, given the direction in which Britain is heading these days, has Mohamed Dar been named yet to the House of Lords?
“Fears man ‘dressed like terrorist’ was bomber at Derbyshire Remembrance Day service,” by Martin Naylor, Derby Telegraph, April 27, 2014 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):
CHURCHGOERS were left terrified after believing a 52-year-old man who walked into their church “dressed like a terrorist” on Remembrance Sunday “might be armed with a bomb”.
Mohamed Dar covered his face with a scarf and his head with a bandana that had the words “God is Great” in Arabic written on it when he entered the New Life Church, in Alfreton.
Within minutes he was shouting how the congregation should “turn to Allah” and that Islam “sent boys aged 10 to war”.
North East and Dales Magistrates’ Court heard how minutes before he walked into the church he had disrupted a Remembrance Day parade at the cenotaph in Alfreton.
Giving evidence yesterday, he said he had gone to the event dressed in that way “to show his respect to all the Muslims who had been slaughtered like pigs in Iraq and Afghanistan”.
The trial was told that Dar stood directly in front of the cenotaph, in Hall Street, and while the commemoration parade went past he “slow-clapped” .
He then went in the nearby New Life Church which was conducting a Remembrance Day service.
In a statement read out by Michael Treharne, prosecuting, churchgoer Cheryl Taylor-Warriner said: “There were about 20 in the congregation and a man came in during the service. Within minutes he shouted ‘this is rubbish, you should be preaching Allah, turn to Islam, we send boys of 10 to war’.
“He was dressed like a terrorist, I though he may have a gun or a bomb or some sort of weapon, I was so frightened.”
The statement of another churchgoer, Angela Gordon, was also read out by Mr Treharne.
She said: “I could not believe what he was saying in the church, especially because it was Remembrance Sunday. He was dressed like a terrorist or a suicide bomber.
“The incident really upset me. I felt physically sick.”
Magistrates yesterday found Dar guilty of two counts using threatening and abusive words or behaviour.
Giving evidence, Dar said he had lived in Alfreton for 11 years and that he did not know there was a Remembrance Day parade happening until that morning when he drove to Hall Street.
He said: “I accept that the views I expressed could be uncomfortable to other people but I cannot get to grips with the wars (in Iraq and Afghanistan) and it manifests itself with those words that I said.
“I went to the memorial dressed as I did to pay my respects to the British soldiers who died in World War Two, not the other wars which I don’t believe in.
“I also wanted to pay my respects to all the Muslims that have been slaughtered like pigs in Iraq and Afghanistan.”
In a statement read out in court, Sergeant Jonathan Barnhill, of Derbyshire police, said he had been asked by Dar to visit his house on October 18, two weeks before the incident.
He said: “When I was there Mr Dar said he viewed suicide bombers as the highest form of people.
“He also informed me that he did a lot of research into terrorism.
“I found Mr Dar very disturbing.”
Dar apologised in court for his behaviour in the New Life Church, saying he had only gone there as it was “a soothing place, a house of God,” and that he had not deliberately gone there to cause trouble.
He will be sentenced at a future date pending a report.
shrugger says
I’ve been hearing of several incidents similar to this. Is this a new kind of jihad?
Rob Crawford says
Yes, it does seem like a developing pattern. Either copy-cats or a theme being pushed during Friday’s hate-fests.
Keith Lewis says
It is following Mohammad’s teaching. Call unbelievers to Islam before excersizing jihad on them. It is the same pattern as Osama bin laden followed before 9/11 and Major Nadal followed at Fort Hood. I suspect violent jihad is going to be unleashed in Britain.
dumbledoresarmy says
Yes.
Exactly. In this church in the UK, as less obviously in that other church in France where a similar Muslim incursion was made, what is happening is the formal call to Islam.
Since nobody from among either congregation, in France or in the UK, converted to Islam, the Muslims involved, or their associates, can now move to the next step: a direct physical attack on that congregation. The “New Life” church in Alfreton had better be prepared.
I would advise them to think seriously about security measures: before, during and after services. And invest in a few big dogs for their pastor, if he lives near the church.
Isabella says
UK: this guy is big threat to your country. What are you waiting to come up with a law that will allow to expel individuals like Mohamed Dar? This guy hates you.This is unreal and I seriously think that UK will become an islamic country in less than a 100 years.
When UK arrest a man from the English Defence League who cites Winston Churchill on a street trying to wake people up and reflect and get arrested because the quote cited presents what Churchill thought of the Mohammedans, this country shows signs of real dangers for the values of Western democracy.
rage against injusticw says
I hate to say this, but its just a matter of time before western europe has its own bosnian, and kosovo war.
Carol Chang says
It will be far fewer than 100 years.
VampireJack says
It will be fewer than TEN years.
I can already smell it in the air – sadly.
defcon 5 says
You can pre-emptively end the bloodshed — all you have to do is embrace islam or accept your status as a dhimmi.
kikorikid says
The “problem” in this situation is that two
or three men in the pews did not get up and take
the whacko out, one way or another.
OH shoot, I forgot, this is UK,
never mind.
Tom says
He needs to be locked away for a serious amount of time and deported on completion of sentence. All assets should be confiscated as well.
Jay Boo says
Islam is incompatible with civilized behavior.
bewick says
I was born in Alfreton. It was a coal mining town until the pits were closed. In my youth this man 1. wouldn’t have been there 2. would have received on the spot justice from miners. No need for him to be locked away.. Deportation and confiscation of assets I like. Chances are that he runs a corner shop . Wonder if he has paid all his taxes or still abides by sub-continent attitudes to tax.
raylanfear says
yaan Hirsi Ali, said it best, as a former Muslim who speaks from personal experience in her life “Violence is inherent in Islam –its a destructive nihilistic cult of death, it legitimizes murder.”Just google “theprojectmuslimbrotherhood” their secret doctrine to destroy America from within by stealth jihad, lies and deception. Recently you have a Muslim congressman that took his oath and placed his hand on the Qur’an. Further comments here. http://wp.me/p2GpDB-dQ
Jay Boo says
Churches bombed
200 school girls kidnapped in Nigeria in the name of Islam.
It is not just about extremists
It is about the inherent filth of Islam
To be a Muslim is to live in disgrace.
raylanfear says
Ayaan Hirsi Ali, said it best, as a former Muslim who speaks from personal experience in her life “Violence is inherent in Islam –its a destructive nihilistic cult of death, it legitimizes murder.”Just google “theprojectmuslimbrotherhood” their secret doctrine to destroy America from within by stealth jihad, lies and deception. Recently you have a Muslim congressman that took his oath and placed his hand on the Qur’an. Further comments here. http://wp.me/p2GpDB-dQ
Kepha says
Why didn’t someone confront the shmo over both Islam and Christianity agreeing that Jesus, body and soul together, waits in Heaven to return to judge the earth, while Muhammad’s body lies in the dust of Medina awaiting the judgment we all must face?
Or, why is it that someone didn’t say that the Qur’an’s denial of Jesus’ death by crucifixion insults the atonement that Jesus made?
Or why didn’t someone ask how it is, if the Jews and Christians falsified the Scriptures, Christians can buy a Jewish version of the Tanakh, and recognize their own Old Testament, despite millennia of non-cooperation? Or why Roman Catholic translators (and the Vulgate itself–Protestant versions are all made from the Greek) didn’t have to be Presbyterians to put a plurality of bishops in the Philippi to which Paul wrote (and also have Paul using presbyter and episkopos interchangeably when addressing the Ephesian elders in Acts 20)?
Sure, if he’s there because the church building is a “house of God”, welcome him to hear. But there are a dozen things I could’ve asked him had he come to my church.
Jay Boo says
Who are you blaming?
Jay Boo says
His obvious purpose was to intimidate and probe for weaknesses.
He was not there to learn about Christianity.
Standard Muslim M.O.
Jay Boo says
He is just trying to provoke an Anders style attack so Muslims can ‘play victim’
Jeff says
Deport him and his entire family.
Conservative Mark says
Super Soaker filled with pig’s blood.
Problem solved.
Lawrence says
Terrorized ?
I would have made like a stealth missle to his neck and put a choke hold on him
that he and his cronies would never forget.
At least that’s how we would do it in the USA.
It’s analagous as to why you will never see another Muslim hijacking of an American airline .
Let’s roll, baby !!
dumbledoresarmy says
Thoughts.
I address all Islamosavvy British persons here present, whether posting or lurking, who ticked the “Christian” box during the last census.
If you call or consider yourself Christian, and you have also “woken up” to what Islam is, there are all sorts of things you can do.
If you haven’t been attending church at all, or haven’t been doing so regularly…lift your game. Check out the local congregations and find one where you feel reasonably welcome. Be aware that most people there will most likely be totally clueless about Islam. Do not despair: your job is to settle in and then EDUCATE.
Build up some credibility by staying around and joining in the various activities according to taste (choir, etc) and then as you get to know people, start raising awareness of what Muslims are doing to Christians world-wide. Start with the Asia Bibi case. Make people aware of the British Pakistani Christian Association…these folks have been doing some excellent lobbying and even holding street protests. Become a parish liaison person for “Barnabas Fund”, whose primary brief is to support – and lobby on behalf of – Christians in Islamic countries. Barnabas *also* have a long-running campaign against the supine accommodation of sharia finance, halal food, etc, in the UK and elsewhere. Check out their “Operation Nehemiah”.
Give your parish priest, and your bishop, copies of 1/ Patrick Sookhdeo’s book “Islam in Britain” and 2/ Mark Durie’s “The Third Choice: Islam, Dhimmitude and Freedom”. Sookhdeo is a non-residentiary anglican Canon of the Church in Pakistan [which is a daughter church of the Anglican Communion], and Mark Durie is not only a formidable scholar, but also an Anglican priest “at the coalface”, pastoring a parish church in Melbourne, Australia. If your church of choice is “free church”, give said books to the minister/ rector/ pastor/ whoever else is in charge, and whoever is above *them* in the denominational organisation. Also place copies of said book in the parish library. Mr Spencer’s books – “Religion of Peace: Why Christianity Is and Islam Isn’t” and “Not Peace but a Sword” – are other possible choices.
If your chosen church is not already taking part in the annual Day of Prayer for the Persecuted Church (which Barnabas Fund instigated, I believe, and which normally takes place around All Saints’ Day), then suggest that it *does*. Great opportunity for education and consciousness-raising.
If your church is Anglican or Catholic, suggest to your priest that he start ringing the Angelus, if he is not already doing so. (The aim and object of *that*, is to be as non-dhimmi as possible: sharia forbids the ringing of church bells by dhimmi Christians).
If you are really lucky, and your *priest* is Islamosavvy, you could encourage him to ring the so-called “Turkish Bell” at midday, to summon the faithful to pray for the defeat of Jihad, the conversion of Muslims, and the perseverance and deliverance of all those who are being persecuted by Muslims.
If your chosen church has a ring of bells, you could – if able-bodied and musical by inclination – consider joining the crew of bell-ringers. (Incidentally, this particular option is also open to anyone who is atheist or agnostic but has a mind to defy mohammedans by making a loud and cheerful non-dhimmi noise; I don’t think you have to be a card-carrying Christian believer, in order to join a Tower Crew).
And share with your vicar the report currently under discussion, of that insufferably rude mohammedan gatecrasher, and of the other one in France, and *also* share the story of the mohammedans who blew up the Anglican Church of All Saints’, Peshawar, and state that you believe it necessary and prudent for your congregation to have some Contingency plans, for everything up to and including a murder-“martyr” raid upon your church during services. (Point out, also, that such contingency plans would be unnecessary if mohammedans in large numbers had not been foolishly admitted in through the gates of Britain).
Further thought: there is the wonderful old English custom called “Beating the Bounds”, which normally takes place at Rogationtide. Some parishes in Britain still do it, or have recently revived it (an excellent idea).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beating_the_bounds
It happens around Ascension Day (which is May 29th, this year ) or during “Rogationtide”, so you have a bit of time to plan for *this* year.
This one involves a large party of persons from the parish, mostly able-bodied men and boys, with the priest and other clergy present, doing the rounds of the parish boundary, and carrying out assorted traditional actions, both religious (readings from the gospel, prayers) and cheerfully non-religious. Placenames such as “Gospel Oak” are relics of this custom.
If your local church, or any one of the local churches, is already doing it: JOIN IN. And get as many other local non-Muslims, especially able-bodied males, to do likewise. There is enough of a secular and purely social component to it, that I can envisage nonreligious non-Muslims joining in with gusto. Non-Anglo Christians – EAst Indians, Poles – would probably also jump in boots and all. And I suspect that Hindus, Buddhists and Sikhs would come along for the procession and the fun.
And if your local church *isn’t* already doing it, then…make the suggestion. Say, “I think it might be fun to revive the traditional custom of the Beating of the Bounds”. For “building community”, and all that.
Because I can think of few more in-your-face, noisy and FUN ways for Britons, parish by parish, locality by locality, to a/ build morale and b/ serve notice upon any mohammedans in the vicinity, that **this is Infidel turf!! and it is going to STAY THAT WAY**. For extra point, everyone in the parish who has a dog could bring it along for the walk…
Post scriptum. Besides the “Beating of the Bounds”, there is the purely religious Christian practice of “prayer walking”. That, too, would be worth taking up; especially in areas where mohammedans are attempting to encroach but have not yet succeeded in taking over. *Large* groups of visibly-identifiable Christians…with their pet dogs…walking the length and breadth of their home “turf”.
apostate says
Love it DDA! and for the umpteenth time, THANK YOU!
defcon 5 says
Excellent ideas, but they’ll only go so far.
Carol Coad says
Love it!!!
Gamaliel says
If a Christian did something like this he’d emerge severely damaged if he’d emerge at all.
CJ Mccoy says
Can you imagine what would happen if i went into a mosque and said this is rubbishand you should believe in Christ!!!! Just how do you think that would go over??? I’m thinking not too good. It seems they can say anything they want yet we are not to say anything at all. Does that seem fair??? Are they always wanting everything to be fair???? No, they don’t want fair they want it to be their way or NO way, definately not my way.
Charli Main says
So, why wasn´t this Muslim arrested for making a verbal racist attack on Christians and Christianity. ????
After all, if Paul Weston can be arrested and charged with “assaulting” and “abusing” Islam and Muslims by quoting Winston Churchill, why are Muslims given a free pass to abuse other faiths???’
Ah yes!!! I forgot British Laws do not apply to Muslims and the British police appear to be under strict orders “not to upset the Muslims”
andrew says
the question is will he face the same fate as Paul Weston? Will he even be tried? It seems a one way street, criticize Islam and get arrested, criticize Christianity and nothing happens.
Fitz says
The Daily Mail, a mainstream
newspaper in the uk, has at last posted a story on Paul Weston’s arrest. Unsuprisingly they have disabled comments on it. I had submitted a comment to the effect that it was an obituary they had printed and not a news story. I’m thinking this story won’t go away though.
Mirren10 says
The reason there sre no comments, is because Mr Weston has been charged with a crime, therefore it is sub judice.
Raymond Forster says
Sorry, but if I were in that church, I would have dragged him outside. Beating him like a dog optional, depending……………..
billy says
well said i would of jumped all over him yes you will get people saying well you are some christian i thought you turn the other cheek i say if a man came into your home screaming what would you do sit there make him a nice cup of tea or defend your family from a nutter i am a christian but am a christian that will fight back against anyone who threaten anyone in my church. We christian dont go to other faiths and scream at them i dont expect them to do that to us.
billy says
If any muslim came into my church and scream at us i would be the first to kick him back out of my church the only way to meet islamic nutters is to fight back they dont like you fighting back they are cowards they tell lies and us British white black Asian should stand up now and say NO MORE OF YOUR CRAP THIS IS ENGLAND YOU DON’T LIKE OUR LAWS THEN LEAVE. Only time islam doesn’t want peace they say they do they dont wake up England.
Phillip Thackeray says
Freedom of speech is fine but when it becomes threatening then the law has to act.
Samantha says
I have no time for either Christianity or Islam, but this is disgusting and should not be tolerated at all. Everyone has the right to believe in whatever god they want, and worship in whatever way they want, but nothing gives a person the right to intimidate those of a different faith.
Sadly this is happening more and more. No wonder there’s a growing hatred for Islam.
Darren says
Should one of these ragheads make the mistake of pulling a stunt like this in my church, he would be reminded of how Jesus took to the temple with a bullwhip, driving out blasphemers!
Cato Younger says
These are attempts to mark territory and take over public spaces, although this was a church. The Muslims realize how weak and timid Western peoples have become and are capitalizing on it. This is no different from gangs of young thugs wandering public streets and malls and scaring people for fun. If you don’t stand up and get rid of them, they get bolder.
Cato Younger says
All you need to know is at:
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com