“Understandably, there will very little sympathy in the UK for this extremist rhetoric.” Understandably? Really? When has the UK been unsympathetic to Islamic “extremist rhetoric”? Just days before Pamela Geller and I were banned from entering the UK, the British government admitted Saudi Sheikh Mohammed al-Arefe. Al-Arefe has said: “Devotion to jihad for the sake of Allah, and the desire to shed blood, to smash skulls, and to sever limbs for the sake of Allah and in defense of His religion, is, undoubtedly, an honor for the believer. Allah said that if a man fights the infidels, the infidels will be unable to prepare to fight.”
That was acceptable in Britain. My work, which has consistently been in defense of human rights, was not. I don’t engage in any “extremist rhetoric” and have never advocated for or condoned violence. Yasser al-Habib may get some limited trouble from Ofcom, but he will preach on. Britain is insane, and suicidal.
“Muslim cleric in UK probe after ‘vile’ Fadak TV rants,” by Ben Flanagan, Al Arabiya, April 22:
A satellite TV station based in suburban England is being investigated after allegations it broadcast a Muslim cleric’s “hate sermons” and “vile rants” to audiences across the Middle East.
The UK’s independent television regulator says it has launched an investigation into Fadak TV, which was founded by Sheikh Yasser al-Habib. The Shia cleric has been accused of making remarks on air considered offensive to Sunni Muslims, and of stirring sectarian tensions in the Islamic world.
Sheikh Yasser’s UK-licensed station is based in a former Christian church hall in the leafy village of Fulmer in suburban Buckinghamshire.
Ofcom, which regulates communications in the UK, told Al Arabiya News it has recently launched an investigation into the station.
“Fadak TV is under investigation by Ofcom and if the channel is found to be breaking our rules, then we will take robust action. Our powers allow us to issues fines and take channels off air,” a spokesman said.
Ofcom reportedly investigated Fadak TV in 2012 after a sermon by Sheikh al-Habib.
The UK has strict rules on broadcasting so-called ‘hate speech’. But the UK media reported that Fadak TV is not broadcast in Europe, and so Ofcom has been powerless to act.
The regulator has nonetheless decided to launch a fresh probe into Fadak after new press reports over Sheikh Yasser’s sermons.
According to the Daily Mail, Sheikh Yasser was reportedly granted asylum in the UK in 2004, having been jailed in his native Kuwait for insulting Sunni Muslims.
The newspaper accused Sheikh Yasser of broadcasting “vile rants” and “hate sermons” from his suburban base, which the cleric reportedly bought for £2 million.
Dr Omer El-Hamdoon, president of the Muslim Association of Britain, said he welcomed investigations into anyone said to be stirring tensions.
“People who incite hatred do not serve the society’s interest whether it’s Muslim or non-Muslim,” he told the Al Arabiya News Channel. “This is why we welcome any governmental measure to investigate anyone working on pitting sects against one another. [Such measures] would prevent strife among Muslims.”
Chris Doyle, the director of the London-based Council for Arab-British Understanding (CAABU), said he welcomed the investigation into Sheikh Yasser’s TV channel.
“He should be investigated,” Doyle said. “It is clearly that delicate and difficult balance between freedom of speech and direct incitement. Understandably, there will very little sympathy in the UK for this extremist rhetoric.”…
Clare says
Oh, yes, drag out the doctrinal-feud-jihad now.
The UK must be at the ripe Muslim total population percentage to trot this in-crowd war “in the Islam world” out of there to be engineered and intentionally provoked within the territory of the UK.
Saleem Smith says
The more Islam that gets a applied to any society, the worst things inevitable become.
The ‘Arab Spring’ was an Islamic uprising with local Muslims desiring and demanding Islamic law, the Sharia. The Sunnis and Shiites are eternal enemies and enjoy killing each other in their quest for the perfect Islamic Sharia State.
We ex-Muslims living with Islam’s formal and informal death penalty for apostasy know that the cruel cult of Mohammedanism is a despicable fraud.
The 164 jihad verses in the Qur’an make jihad warfare a central tenet of the Islamic creed. Muhammad the prophet of Islam’s Sunnah is even more violent and hate-filled.
At least 75% of the Sira (biographies of Muhammad and quotes attributed to him) is about jihad.
The largest part of the Islamic texts (the Qur’an, hadith and sira) relate to the treatment of unbelievers, kafirs. Approximately 67% of the Qur’an written in Mecca is about the unbelievers, or politics. Of the Qur’an of Medina, 51% is devoted to the unbelievers.
Mohammed preached his religion for 13 years and garnered only 150 followers. But when he turned to politics and war, in 10 years time he became the first ruler of Arabia by averaging an event of violence every 7 weeks for 9 years. His success did not come as a religious leader, but as a political leader.
Political Islam asks: What is the real jihad? The jihad of inner spiritual struggle, or the jihad of war?
Statistical analysis of the Bukhari hadith (considered by Muslims to be the most authentic of the hadith collections) show that Muhammad repeatedly speaks of jihad. In Bukhari, 97% of the jihad references are about war, and 3% are about the inner struggle. So the statistical answer is that jihad is 97% war and 3% inner struggle.
There are 146 references to Hell in the Qur’an. Only 6% of those in Hell are there for moral failings ” murder, theft, etc. The other 94% of the reasons for being in Hell are for the intellectual sin of disagreeing with Mohammed, a political crime.
Islam is no “religion of peace”. Islam is primarily a religion of “injustice, intolerance, hatred, and violence.” The fact is, if we non-Muslims were to say about Muslims what the Qur’an says about us, we would be arrested for hate speech. The Qur’an largely preaches discrimination, death, and imposition of its dogma on everyone. Certainly some Muslims will be offended by such statements, but frankly, so what? Judaism and Christianity, the world’s two other major monotheistic religions, have had to face the harshest of scrutiny and criticism for several hundred years which continues to this day. Islam must not be granted any special privileges or be exempt from such treatment – the implications are of tremendous importance.
Here is a recent statement from a group of Bangladeshi apostates living in the UK explaining the reasons why they have abandoned Islam:
“One who claims to be a messenger of God is expected to live a saintly life. He must not be given to lust, he must not be a sexual pervert, and he must not be a rapist, a highway robber, a war criminal, a mass murderer or an assassin. One who claims to be a messenger of God must have a superior character. He must stand above the vices of the people of his time. Yet Muhammad’s life is that of a gangster godfather. He raided merchant caravans, looted innocent people, massacred entire male populations and enslaved the women and children. He raped the women captured in war after killing their husbands and told his followers that it is okay to have sex with their captives (Qur’an 33:50). He assassinated those who criticized him and executed them when he came to power and became de facto despot of Arabia. Muhammad was bereft of human compassion. He was an obsessed man with his dreams of grandiosity and could not forgive those who stood in his way…
The statement continues,
Muhammad was a narcissist, like Hitler, Saddam or Stalin. He was astute and knew how to manipulate people, but his emotional intelligence was less evolved than that of a 6-year-old child. He simply could not feel the pain of others. He brutally massacred thousands of innocent people and pillaged their wealth. His ambitions were big and as a narcissist he honestly believed he is entitled to do as he pleased and commit all sorts of crimes and his evil deeds are justified.”
ECAW says
Thanks for that Saleem. An excellent run down on the Religion of Hate.
Reality Check says
Thank you for your post. Lots of good stuff there.
bill says
You are wrong. The so called Arab spring was a popular movement against despotic and authoritarian governments, notably the millions who demonstrated against Mubarak. They were not calling for Sharia but for democracy. The Morsi presidency was voted in fairly democratically , though only about 30% of the voters voted, but soon showed its Muslim Brotherhood colours by introducing more and more sharia based legislation. Morsi also showed he was not a true democrat, bu seeking to make g his laws unchallengible in the courts. The people rose up again to oust that pro sharia govt. That shows that sharia based government is not what they want. If you want to pose as an expert on the Arab Spring at least get the basic facts correct.
john spielman says
the problem with any muslim majority country is that it can start out secular and respecting all faiths( or no faith) but it eventually morphs into a sharia compliant totalitarian terror state because Islam allows even encourages violence against those who oppose its strict tenets SO THE MOST INTIMIDATING GROUP EVENTUALLY WINS( examples are Malaysia, Indonesia,
gravenimage says
I’m sorry, bill—but you are off base. Many Westerners appear to believe that the “Arab Spring” has been all about democracy and opposing despots, but the fact is that every place effected by the “Arab Spring” has become further Islamized—Tunisia, Egypt, Libya, Syria.
Even Egypt, which has taken a step back from the imposition of full Shari’ah with the ouster of the Muslim Brotherhood is a more oppressive, chaotic, and violent place than it was under Mubarak—especially for Christians.
Can you really claim that Tunisia, Libya, or Syria are better places in the wake of the “Arab Spring”?
Patricia Spayd says
I totally agree with you! I read the Koran last year and I was appalled. Where was this ‘religion of peace’ that our political pundits, news media and CAIR talk about? It sure wasn’t in the Koran. Then I read Ayaan Hirsi Ali’s books, and as I woman, I knew we’d be doomed in the Islamic world. Then I found Robert Spencer’s books and his website JihadWatch.com, then Dr. David Warner, then Dr David Wood’s Answering Muslims.com
Frankly, the more I learn, the more horrified I am of this cancerous and vile political system under the sheep skin of a so-called religion. The Koran is the original hate speech. I agree if we Christians and Jews and non-Muslims said 1/2 of what is in the Koran about Islam, then we’d be – and we are – branded as ‘bigot’, ‘racists’ etc. I turn it back and say that the Koran is ‘Christian-ophobe’ and Judeo-ophone, and Kafuur-ophobe.
dumbledoresarmy says
Hi, Patricia.
Welcome!
Just out of curiosity – what *was* it, specifically, last year, that led you to pick up the Koran and take a look inside?
(and if you look up a translation of the *other* canonical texts of Islam, the Bukhari or the “Muslim” Hadith collections, and the Sira or “life” of Mohammed by Ibn Ishaq, as translated either by Muir or by A Guillaume, you will find plenty more violence, hate, malevolent lies, creepy stuff and sheer bizarrerie in those, also).
Congratulations on having done and doing due diligence. You have now joined the ranks of the de facto Order of the Phoenix, which might also be called “the History Boys” (and Girls).
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2008/06/fitzgerald-the-unsung-history-boys.html
learning a lot…and passing it on.
Your task now, like that of all the rest of us, each in our respective countries and social circles, each in our degree, is to pass on what you have learnt to as many people as possible. Like the old motto says, “Each one teach one”.
And while you’re doing that, if you’re in the USA, join ACT for America and increase their capacity to lobby Congress and Senate. Squeaky wheels *do* get grease, eventually.
Defcon 4 says
“The other 94% of the reasons for being in Hell are for the intellectual sin of disagreeing with Mohammed, a political crime.” And who can’t help but notice that this fact of islam0fascist doctrine is carried out in every islamic state on the face of this earth in the form of enforced islamic blasphemy and heresy laws?
mortimer says
Death threats? What? Again?
Jay Boo says
GOOD MORNING MUSLIM WORLD
How is that honor thing working out?
Muslims can’t agree on peace
Yet killing non-Muslims has universal appeal
Over 80 % of British Muslims polled favored killing Salman Rushdie.
Over 80% of Muslims have absolutely no honor.
The Quran has no honor.
Muhammad has no honor.
Allah has no honor.
john spielman says
that’s because Allah is Satan and he loves blood sacrifice just like his alter ego Baal /Molech in Canaanite times.
Jay Boo says
Love or Hate
God or Satan
The Sunnis and Shi’ite Muslims devote so much time to searching for the devil in others that it is no wonder that they end up conjuring up what they seek to find.
Whatever we focus our mind on is what has the most control over us.
Notta_allah_followa says
Have you ever noticed that every time one of these D-bag imams, clerics or muzzie laypeople preach their filthy screed they are often pointing upwards with one finger? It’s as if their silly little death cult has all this novel information that they are imparting to the ignorant masses. Islam contributes nothing but death. This is what happens when you combine an ignorant culture with a machismo culture…their ignorance means they can’t produce a semi-conductor and then their machismo means they then have to blame an outside entity for their own dismal failures, hence the eternal hatred for more successful cultures like the evil Joooos!
Michael Copeland says
Where did the funding come from to enable a “cleric” to spend £2m on buying a former church hall?
It is a legitimate question.
dumbledoresarmy says
That question had occurred to me, also.
Perhaps all British jihadwatchers here, posting or lurking, need to write to their MPs and to the relevant personages in government, asking whether this creature’s sources of funding have been *thoroughly* investigated…and if not, *why* not?
Follow the money!
joeb says
“His Eminence also encouraged all believers to make the effort to inhabit the areas surrounding it to help transform it into a genuine Islamic village. Moreover, his eminence informed the believers that efforts are being made to establish an Islamic Shia school and seminary of traditional Islamic learning in the future.”
The local council encouraged this maniac, and swallowed the mosque’s lies hook, line and sinker in a bid to be PC and not appear racist.
They are going to regret this bitterly. I remember the story from last year, and the crawling and bum-licking of the council planners was appalling.
duh_swami says
Islam seems to thrive on other people blood. is Allah a vampire?
Jay Boo says
If you were to combine self righteousness of the most fundamentalist Protestant doctrine
with the most traditional old ritual elements of conservative Catholicism
You still would not approach the depths of rigid dogmatic intolerance of Islam
Jay Boo says
TRUST
Muslims can’t trust Allah
Muslims can’t trust Muhammad
Muslims can’t trust each other
john spielman says
That’s because Allah/Satan is a liar and deceiver so every one could be lying to everyone else, ie Allah lied to Muhammed , Muhammd lied to his followers and his followers lie to each other to gain advantage and please(or was Allah lying) Allah!
Defcon 4 says
I’ve read allah is called the “greatest deceiver” in islamic texts, but I don’t know where.
It’s a strange thought, that an all-powerful entity would have to LIE.
Jay Boo says
This cult intimidates then hides behind the “cloak of religion”
aided by willful ignorance of liars with shameless intentions.
Opportunistic traitors are eager to defend this intolerant disease.
They pose together in staged, self-congratulatory vanity feasts.
These parasites who piously pander, creep, scavenge and scheme
are helped by a P. C. news media that plays truth “hide and seek.”
As stealth jihad taqiyya infects from Wahhabi deserts across the sea,
well-funded politicians face east to praise Medina’s Saudi P. R. deceit.
gravenimage says
It comes up several times, Defcon 4—Allah as deceiver is a major theme:
Qur’an 8:30:
“But they [the Jews] were deceptive, and Allah was deceptive, for Allah is the best of deceivers.”
And Qur’an 7:99:
“Are they then secure from Allah’s deception? None deemeth himself secure from Allah’s deception save folk that perish.”
And Qur’an 27:50:
“So they schemed a scheme: and We [Allah] schemed a scheme, while they perceived not.”
And one of Allah’s “99 Names” is “Al-Makra” (the deceiver).
Ugly stuff…
Jay Boo says
The last time I posted (Exodus from Medina) there seemed to be a lot of wacko Muslim commentators. It might have been a coincidence but just in case it was not, I have decided rather than offend any Muslims with my Islamophobia that I will not post the following (Exodus from Medina)comment here today:
(Exodus from Medina)
Desert spirits spoke in twisted verse, a dance of words to recite, to recite.
Medina’s false prophet this rehearsed in a cave near Mecca veiled by night.
But the angel Gabriel saw his descent, and said “Pawn of Satan turn, repent, repent.”
But, sharia’s verse planted its infected creed fertilized by this false prophet’s made-up dream.
A vain attempt to partner with God almighty was dredged up from the lowest pit of his vanity.
Bloodied hands are now washed before prayers that incite
as hate speech is masked as devotion to recite, to recite.
Along Medina’s “fastest growing” path straight to hell
“Nine Eleven” admirers grovel beneath Satan’s will.
Jihadists then bow not to God but to Islam’s unholy weapon,
as false humility makes its pilgrimage to Satan’s deception.
True infidels, they use God’s name as a deadly curse.
Blasphemy crawls from sharia’s stockpile of vile, veiled verse.
RonaldB says
As an American, with a tradition of almost absolute freedom of speech, I am very uncomfortable with the spectacle of giving a government agency the power to decide what speech is acceptable and what isn’t.
The logical and the real consequences of such power lead to ever more government suppression. We know that Muslims are proficient in organizing themselves, and exerting political powers beyond their numbers. Once we concede the right of government to regulate speech content, it won’t be very long until it is targeting speech critical, or even analytical towards, Islam.
The only reason the British investigation of Shiek Yasser got off the ground is because he represents a minority Islamic sect, and is making threatening statements towards the majority Sunnis. The Muslim organizations sugar coat their support of the suppression of this Shiek by stating they’re against hate speech in general. In fact, they are simply using any available weapon towards a blood enemy.
There is a great conundrum: any rational position of any government would be to bar any further immigration of Muslims, and possibly suppress any further mosque-building. Yet, we understand that to give a government such power and such discretion would be to give it the tools of a very powerful enslavement.
There is the further question of whether it is a good idea for any government to involve itself in the vicious, and eternal, animosity between Sunnis and Shias. Muslim sects, whether the Sunnis, Shias, or the often-persecuted Sufis, Ismailis, Ahmadiyahs, and Alewites, universally lend political support to the spread of Islam and suppression of criticism.
mortimer says
The Public Order Act was brought in by Thatcher to repress soccer hooligans and the IRA, but now it defends jihadists from criticism. Madness.
mortimer says
Making death threats based in the alleged ‘holy’ writings of Islam is acceptable in the UK, but questioning the validity of those texts in our era is not acceptable in UK.
It is alright in UK to question the validity of the Church of England, but NOT ISLAM!
Madness.
Blangwort says
Were it not for the possibility that innocents would be caught in the crossfire, I’d suggest letting these idiots fight it out. They would Darwin themselves from the gene pool eventually.
Maybe we could introduce the concept of the duel to them and have the Imams shoot at each other. Perhaps the survivor would then be encouraged to think twice before asking their congregations to Jihad on their behalf.
Hey, I can dream, can’t I?
gravenimage says
UK: Shi’ite Muslim cleric investigated for hate rants against Sunni Muslims
………………………….
I notice Shi’ite Rezali Mehil hasn’t weighed in here—perhaps this was at her Mosque.
How long will it be before Muslims are slaughtering other-sect Muslims in the streets of the West in their vicious internecine warfare? I shudder to think.