Statistics concerning ethnicity and religion when it comes to criminals are not to be found in the world’s most politically correct country with probably the fastest-growing share of Muslims: Sweden. The risk of being raped in Sweden during one’s lifetime is one out of four, which is probably equal to the risk of being raped in any other country under Muslim attack. When it comes to rapes, Islamized Sweden is already in a state of war. If we want to have a hint about who is committing these tens of thousands of rapes and other types of sexual assaults yearly, we can turn to another Scandinavian country, Sweden’s neighbor Norway, the country most similar to Sweden. Here 100 percent of all rapes in the last five years in Oslo were committed by immigrants from “non-Western” countries. In Stavanger, a major Norwegian city, 90 percent of rapes are committed by “immigrants.” Sweden has 75,000 crimes yearly, in a population of only 9.5 million.
Via 10news.dk, translated from SVT by Nicolai Sennels:
The survey was conducted by the Örebro County Council, together with some of the neighboring counties, and 33,000 people answered questions about how they feel. 38 percent of women responded that they are afraid of leaving their home because they fear being assaulted, robbed or otherwise molested.
The proportion of women who are afraid have risen sharply in the past 13 years. In 2000, 20 percent of women did not dare go out alone.
“These are alarming figures,” says Margareta Lindén-Boström at the Örebro County Council.
More than 75,000 sexual crimes yearly (including unreported attacks) in a country with only four million women might explain Swedish women’s fear of leaving their dwelling without escort. Translated from Swedish Statistics Brå:
In 2013, 17,400 sexual offenses were reported, of which 5,900 was categorized as rape. The number of reported rapes is down 5 percent from last year. Seen over a ten-year period, the number of reported rapes has increased sharply due to several reasons….Sexual offenses are one of the types of crime that is least likely to be reported to the police — only 23 percent of sexual offenses are reported.
jihad3tracker says
This post and the preceding 3 add up to clearly show what will happen when a country is foolish enough to think that Muslim immigrants want to absorb themselves into the surroundings they have come to.
No, of course not — Islam is by its essential message a “stay apart to eventually conquer” ideology.
Dearborn Michigan and the Twin Cities Minnesota area are well on their way to permanent immigrant trouble.
helmut says
Arm yourself for war. Start doing what you can to educate people to the truth. Our media wont do it because even in war these cowards dont carry guns. Its time to do the job they wont do.
Gamaliel says
Obama has fasttracked Islamic immigration into the U.S.. Where is the outcry? He has loosened requirements that immigrants not be associated with terror organizations. Why hasn’t he been impeached?
gugadin says
The Congress is afraid to act because they’ll be labeled as racist by the dems and the media. Maybe if we cand vote the deems out of the Senate and the GOP grows a pair, maybe, just maybe we can impeach the imposter in the WH.
In the interim, keep your powder dry.
Shane says
The gutless liberal MSM in Europe are terrified of telling the truth about Muslims and crime, especially rape. Muslims in Europe commit a large percentage of the violent crimes and they make up a large percentage of the Europeans in prison. Muslim immigration has been an unmitigated disaster for Europe.
‘Islamization’ of Paris a Warning to the West: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDQrvObop3E
Belgian Muslims: “We Believe Sharia Will Dominate Worldwide”
http://conservativevideos.com/2013/05/belgian-muslims-we-believe-sharia-will-dominate-worldwide/#ixzz2UsP74GNi
Welcome to Sweden of Today: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlG75wb7lLw
Mirren10 says
In light of this article, and the next four articles on what is happening in Europe because of **mohammedan** immigration, the darling of all socialist parties, the results of the French elections may provide some light at the end of the tunnel.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2593556/Frances-Socialist-PM-entire-government-quit-following-electoral-meltdown-Hollande-set-hand-job-interior-minister-Manuel-Valls.html#ixzz2xbbmsScU
Please God the rest of Europe, the UK, and the USA similarly come to their senses.
Reality Check says
And then, according to Dr Richard Lynn’s and Dr Tatu Vanhanen’s definitive book “IQ and the Wealth of Nations”, Sweden is rated as one of the most intelligent countries in the world. I simply can’t match their information with today’s reality in Sweden – how come a supposedly highly intelligent nation like the Swedes has birthed such a large number of extremely moronic politicians who simply don’t care about all the outrages inflicted on their women? Where do all the morally inept fools come from? Why is respect for the rapists’ reputations more important than respect for the current and future rape victims? Or maybe intelligence is one thing and courage a totally different animal. Too many question marks here and nothing to suggest an answer!
Jill says
Look up the EuroArab Dialogue and
book Eurabia: the EuroArab Axis by Bat YeOr.
Islamisdeath says
Maybe they are just too smart to understand that muslims are demonic morons and will never be civilized.
Very smart people sometimes believe that anything can be solved using intellect. This just isnt so with rabid, addled muslims who often times are so inbred that they have very low iQ’ s and are probably suffering from mental aberrations not found in western society and therefore cannot be readily identified.
Further muslims are brainwashed zombies and this is something the Swedes cannot wrap their big brains around.
The Swedes use intellect and the muslims use violence. The Swedes are F’d!
Michael Brennick says
Many years ago the philospher Sidney Hook wrestled with this problem in the context of intellectuals and their support for Stalinism and other communist offshoots. He concluded that intelligence and moral character are completely independent attributes. The most intelligent often lack an iota of moral courage. The self obsessed person enamored of their own intelligence often creates a construct in their own mind that represents a “just and compassionate society”. This construct is devoid of any reality concerning human nature and the reality of evil. They are wedded to this anti-reality construct and it’s ideology and will not be moved. Lenin valued the type as the “useful idiots” who would do much of the heavy lifting in setting up a totalatarian society.
Jax Tolmen says
Those ‘intellectuals’ are nothing but jumped up pseudo – academics with no understanding of anything beyond their own preposterous views. The true intellectual will factor in the general behavioral trends of their less evolved brethren when evaluating ideas and scenarios. I’ve always found it interesting how a large amount of University students identify as ‘socialists,’ and believe everyone else is wrong. This highlights my point that without genuine life experience, it is easy for the pseudo – intellectuals to fall into philosophical sink holes that defy common sense.
Hoping for an idealist version of the human race is a fanciful logical fallacy, any person with a brain and a decent amount of life experience understands mankind for what it really is; and the role of society in the face our nature.
One of my favorite quotes, off hand goes something like; ‘society is just a thin veneer over chaos.’ One of my other favorites is, “It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others that have been tried.” (Winston Churchill)
Dan says
In the wake of Shoah business it became verboten to mention reality.
Defcon 4 says
@Dan
So what you’re saying, in your deluded antisemitism, is that the Jews are to blame?
Jay Boo says
The politicians play the slick game of willful denial
but their daughters don’t live or work in the newly infested neighborhoods.
They try to tell themselves that this is not their problem.
Opportunistic politicians are partly to blame for driving Ander’s in nearby Norway insane.
pongidae rex says
The governments of Europe are the stupidest they have been since April 1914. The consequences of this ongoing stupidity will probably be even worse than the slaughter of WWI, because at the end of that debacle Europe was still Europe. The end game for this unfolding immigration disaster is nothing less than the definitive historical end of Europe as the homeland of the European people and culture, for all time. Forever.
River Warrior says
UN Security Council Resolution 1820 (2008):
“…women and girls are particularly targeted by the use of sexual violence, including as a tactic of war to humiliate, dominate, instil fear in, disperse and/or forcibly relocate civilian members of a community or ethnic group.”
Muslim justification for rape:
Qur’an Sura 33:50a, “O Prophet! Lo! We have made lawful unto thee thy wives unto whom thou hast paid their dowries, and those whom thy right hand possesseth of those whom Allah hath given thee as spoils of war…”
Al Rod Al Anf, Volume 2, Page 182: “You see [Allah] will soon make you inherit their land, their treasures and make you sleep with their women.” (The Words of Mohammed as Recorded by Ibn Hisham)
Muslim rapists are war criminals and will be hanged.
squeezethejuice says
I dont see how my Muslim brothers in Sweden are responsible for the incompetence of Swedish police and of Swedish laws. They should know their women have very unique looks with blonde hair and blue eyes which can attract much unwanted attention, and they should do more to protect them.
Swedish women should be given asylum to Muslim countries, they will be much safer than at home, because we have very harsh laws agaisnt rapists and we are very protective of women.
Muzzle the Dogs says
Go rape yourself, son of a thousand bitches.
Reality Check says
There are three problems with your post and since it consists of three sentences altogether, there isn’t a sentence that there isn’t a problem with:
1. “I don’t see how my Muslim brothers are responsible for the incompetence of Sweden’s authorities” – Yes, they are. They committed the rapes, so everything starts from their criminal behaviour.
2. “They should know their women have very unique looks, with blonde hair and blue eyes, etc.” – you are blaming the victims’ looks for the assault, not the animals from your religion.
3. “Swedish women should be given asylum to Muslim countries, they will be much safer there as we are very protective of women and have very harsh laws against rapists” – Blah, blah, blah, blah and blah and blah again! None of this is true and everything is a lie!
I am an European woman who lived in the Muslim world for two years and I had never felt so unsafe my whole life! Muslims stalk every foreign woman like animals that haven’t seen a female in decades and are not protective of their burka-clad bitches only. As for the rape laws in your world, you probably hope we know nothing about the need for four male witnesses to prove that the rape was rape and not consensual sex!
The prisons in the Muslim world are much fuller of rape victims than rapists. Marte Deborah Dalelv comes to mind and there are so many whose names we’ll never know.
That was a nice to try some “taqiyya” on us but your main problem is you are dealing with extremely well-informed people on this blog, so it won’t work.
Reality Check says
That should have been “are protective of their burka-clad bitches only” and not “are not protective”. That happens when you type with one finger from your tablet.
Reality Check says
I believe you.
PGuud says
No doubt that, while the savages are raping those women, they’ll be holding each other’s hand and barking “Allahu Akbar.”
Islam begets savagery.
Islam: where freedom ends and slavery begins.
CornHolio says
What he really means is that Swedish and Norwegian women would be safe in their countries if they just behaved like “good” women. If they married Muslim men and huddled inside black bags, hiding behind a male guardian, “all would be well”.
The implication is obvious – Don’t do this, and you will forever be in danger around Muslim men.
(If only Aisha had not snapped her necklace that morning, “Allah” may never have had to reveal all those newly-necessary “modesty” requirements).
Defcon 4 says
@Cornholio
Interesting insight. Eventually even the hefty bag look might not be sufficient. Eventually the hefty bag look and a required male overseer will be required to be safe — at least when in public.
duh_swami says
‘Don’t bogart that joint my friend, pass it over to me’…
Petey says
yo… dont be greedy…lol
Rob says
Ha. Check this out!
kpeha says
Squeeze, the reason women in Norway and Sweden are in danger is BECAUSE of your “Muslim Brothers”. Frankly, I’d be very, very ashamed to have “brothers” like that. It sound as if your bitheisticidolatry (Mo’s mental idol + the uncreated Qur’an) doesn’t know how to teach men to respect anyone, including themselves.
And, judging what you say about the Scandinavian women’s looks, are you saying YOU have to act like a dog or a pig around them, and have no control over your urges? I’d urge you to get an operation so that when your “Caliphate” is restored, you will be suited to serve in its harem.
That is, after all, what is done to pigs and dogs.
If you’re in the USA, you’re the sort of person who makes our old-fashioned lynch law look a bit respectable (and I never thought I’d live to see the day when I’d say that to someone).
honeybee says
It should happen to the women in your family
SpiritOf1683 says
They just need you sending back to Pakistan, Somalia or whatever Islamic shithole you came from en masse, where you belong.
gravenimage says
The repulsive “squeezethejuice” (“squeeze the Jews”) wrote:
I dont see how my Muslim brothers in Sweden are responsible for the incompetence of Swedish police and of Swedish laws.
……………………………
This is typical Muslim “moral reasoning”—not that a person should act ethically, but that he should get away with anything he can.
This is also typical in that he is blaming the victim.
But this also shows that this kind of dhimmitude on the part of the Swedish authorities just emboldens these barbarians.
More:
They should know their women have very unique looks with blonde hair and blue eyes which can attract much unwanted attention, and they should do more to protect them.
……………………………
Where to start? For one thing, he reaffirms that Muslims should not be expected to exercise the least self-control.
And there is nothing particularly unique about blonde hair and blue eyes *in Sweden*—but this nonetheless posits Muslims as the norm, even when they are in someone else’s country.
And Westerners don’t act like this when exposed to the “unique” looks of Muslim women.
More:
Swedish women should be given asylum to Muslim countries, they will be much safer than at home, because we have very harsh laws agaisnt rapists and we are very protective of women.
……………………………
Well, this is just grimly laughable.
Yes—send us all the women that we are raping and brutalizing, so that we can rape and brutalize them without even bothering to emigrate to Sweden.
As for the idea that women are “protected” in Dar-al-Islam, *nothing* could be further from the truth.
Women are regularly raped, abused, and “Honor Killed” in the Muslim world.
Up to 75% of women in prison in Afghanistan and Pakistan are in for crimes of “Zina”, including having admitted to having been raped. In Somalia, a little 13-year-old gang rape victim was unwary enough to report the rape—she was then stoned to death by a howling mob for her troubles.
God, I hate Islam.
Ayatrollah says
It is a sin to tell the Muslims they can’t “enjoy” women they catch from darl harb (house of war) nonmuslim countries. And hateful and islamophobic to point it out. Allah and the example of pbuh gives Muslims the right to have these women. So what do you expect?
Kepha says
Trying to say “PBUH” in one word makes a sound like a small kid imitating the breaking of wind.
Salah says
What else should we expect from the followers of a rapist?
http://crossmuslims.blogspot.com/2010/04/safiya-and-muhammad-safiya-et-mahomet.html
Steve says
With this horrific state of affairs, I find it hard to accept that Sweden is portrayed as a ¨happy country¨ to the world.
umbra says
all delusions will eventually end.
the reality that is sweden shall become undeniably clear then.
it may be too late for native swedes by then.
JAMES says
It is a happy country for the muslim degenerates that have taken over the country.
Tatter says
I wonder when the non muslims of Sweden stand up and take back
their country from these hate filled animals.
Henry says
Wake up Sweden and admit your stupidity, your immigrant populace is at war with you!
bobm says
Even more Henry; the behavior of these cretins ; is like those who have raided a village and killed ands now carries off the women and children. Sadly though it appears Scandinavia has surrendered without a shot ; without even murmuring a plaintive NO… and the barbarians do what is historical .. they rape … Where indeed are you fathers and sons and brothers of Sweden..?. you are robbed of your very soul.. and you mock those who cry out as bigots..
honeybee says
Where have my Viking ancestors gone. Ragnar Lothebrock would know how to deal with these pigs. Where have Shield Maidens gone!!!
Pennswoods says
Where is the multicultural and diversity “queen” of Sweden a woman named Barbara Spectre hiding in Stockholm today when all this is happening? Spectre is the wife of a rabbi at the Grand Synagogue (she is American he is Israeli) in Stockholm who is doing her best to promote 3rd world, especially Muslim, migration to Sweden and the rest of Scandinavia. She believes it is her “mission” to forever destroy the ethnic indigenous peoples of Scandinavia and Europe. Yet her name is never mentioned in connection to articles like this about Muslim violence in Sweden. Why not? She is part of the cause.
Kepha says
Saw something like Pennswoods post in another thread. I think this is a creature of Scandinavian folklore–namely, a troll.
gravenimage says
Kepha, Barbara Spectre is a pretty standard “multi-cultural” idiot.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Lerner_Spectre
But she is *hardly* responsible for Sweden’s suicidal immigration policy. Every nation in Europe—really, throughout the West—is doing the same sort of thing.
This can hardly be blamed on the Jews.
And ironically, Spectre is concerned about a resurgent antisemitism in Europe, without appearing to be aware that the main reason for this is skyrocketing Muslim immigration.
Texan says
Genesis 12:3
Bezelel says
There is no reason good enough to deprive women like her from carrying a firearm. The government that would keep their people defenseless, especially while importing homicidal maniacs and allowing them to roam at large, is as much to blame as the trash that did that to her.
John Stefan Obeda says
Bezelel! Thank you. Good common sense! I don’t remember the last time that I have read it. To a large degree the government itself is at fault when a woman is harmed and she cannot protect herself with a gun. Here in Canada if she, indeed, shoots the evil Islamist monster, she is the one ending up in serious trouble. It’s against the law for us to protect ourselves. As someone above said: any government that does not protect its people and even punishes those who try to protect themselves no longer is viable. Shame on them.
Bezelel says
obaMUD and company are trying to take the US there too. BTW say hello to Sgt Preston of the Mounties and his dog, I forgot the dogs name, sorry.
Kepha says
@John Stephen Obeda:
Neighbor, like us down south of Line Forty-nine, you guys need a revolt against your current political class, jurists, cultural figures, etc. Still, you did better in electing Mr. Harper, when we were so dumb as to elect the O twice (grooooooaaaan).
Kepha says
@Shabeer:
Just in case you’re sincere in making nice with us, please provide the following:
Statements and defense from Qur’an and hadith by authoritative Muslim spokesment that Muslims must respect the rights, dignity, property, and persons persons who are both non-Muslim AND not submissive to the laws of Dhimmitude.
I understand that in Yemen, if a Muslim from tribe A murders a Jew who is a client of Muslim tribe B, “justice” is when Muslim tribe B gets to murder a Jew who is a client of Muslim tribe A. Any authoritative Sunnite or Zaydi Shi’ite spokesmen who have denounced that as blatant injustice?
LX says
Unfortunately this article relies on misunderstanding, and ignorance.
The problem of the Muslim violence is real, and also, they do prefer to attack the weaker – thereby the women of course.
But the writer of this article shows quite a lack of knowledge, seemingly READING but not UNDERSTANDING that he reads.
1. The definition of “rape” has been widened in Sweden to the absurdum. Just read about the rape accusations against Assange, there the women invited him home to her, made love to him, went down to the shop to buy stuff for breakfast, went back, made love again, bragged about it on Facebook – and later accused him for “rape”.
2. Over 90% of all rape reported is domestic conflicts between husband and wife. Rape as YOU would define, forced sexual intercourse between unknown people are very rare, a few hundreds a year. And even if the immigrants are over represented in it, locals do that just as well, specially youngs on party ther they drink so much that they lose all control.
So the picture you get from the article is completely false and misleading, has nothing to do with the reality.
Islamisdeath says
Love to hear how you twist whats happening in Norway, where 100% of the rapists are non western immigrants, muslims, and the UK where child sex slavery run by muslims is rampant.
I notice you like all muslims blame the victims.
Muslims are rapists period. Your prophet was one and so are you.
Salome says
Actually, theNorwegian statistic is for rape by strangers. Still, a telling statistic.
Islamisdeath says
My information says non western immigrants: http://pamelageller.com/2011/05/norway-all-rapes-in-past-5-years-committed-by-muslimsnon-western-immigrants.html/
Islamisdeath says
Youtube interview : http://youtu.be/HOJubxHYt4Q
LX says
@islamisdeath
You are blinded of your hate. I am not a Muslim. And my opinion is that Islam is a fascistic ideology, which shouldn’t be allowed to play a role in the west. Or anywhere else.
But facts are stupid things, and you can not change them just because you hate Muslims.
I quote from the Swedish BRÅ (Brottsförbyggande Rådet = Criminality-prevention Council)
1. “Under 2013 anmäldes 17 400 sexualbrott, varav 5 900 rubricerades som våldtäkt” Meaning: Under 2013 17400 sexual assaults reported, thereof 5900 classified as rape.
2. “Sett till en tioårsperiod (2004–2013) har de anmälda våldtäkterna ökat markant, vilket till stor del kan förklaras av förändringar i sexualbrottslagstiftningen som trädde i kraft den 1 april 2005.”
In English:
In a 10 years period the number of reported rapes strongly raised, which is mainly explained by the changing of the sexual criminal code enforced from 1st April 2005.
You can find the OFFICIAL statistics here:
https://www.bra.se/bra/brott-och-statistik/valdtakt-och-sexualbrott.html
Google can help you to translate to a language you understand, if there is any.
Facts are stupid things – for stupid people. For others they are just facts, not more, not less.
And if some of you would go out one night in Stockholm, could easily see, that women are NOT afraid to go out AT ALL.
LX says
Can you please give a reliable source to this statistics?
Or is it just some bullshit?
Rob says
You be a taqiyya man (or a complete dhimmi)! This is for you!
LX says
Since I don’t live in Norway but Sweden, I don’t dare to claim that I know the facts there, but hard to believe that Norway would differ so much from us.
I also notice that your “source” does not have ANY references just an opinion of ONE person and some general anecdotes.
Keep the taqiyya and dhimmi bullshit for yourself. It just makes you just as primitive as those you criticize.
gravenimage says
LX wrote:
2. Over 90% of all rape reported is domestic conflicts between husband and wife…
………………….
Nope; sorry. These statistics for Norway are all *stranger rapes*.
More:
And even if the immigrants are over represented in it, locals do that just as well, specially youngs on party ther they drink so much that they lose all control.
………………….
Nice try. Were this the case, then it wouldn’t be the case that every stranger rape committed in Oslo in the past five years was perpetrated by an immigrant.
“Youngs on party ther they drink so much that they lose all control” were not part of the equation.
PGuud says
When is Europe going to clean house? Are there any men–real, have-a-go, principled men–in Europe? The savages have infested your lands and are raping your daughters, for crying out loud!
Man up, Europe! Protect your daughters! Protect yourselves!
Islam: where freedom ends and slavery begins.
Wellington says
Muslim immigration en masse to numerous Western nations (by itself being a statement on the non-productivity of the Muslim world, not that Muslims or the modern Left will acknowledge this) is inaugurating a new Dark Age in the history of the West. Arguably a Dark Age like no other.
The increasing vulnerability of the women of Sweden and Norway is a case in point. And what an irony is existent here as well, to wit, that the civilization that pioneered women’s rights like no other in history is now turning a blind eye to women’s rights, even the most basic of them like not being subject to rape, all in the name of tolerance and diversity.
Really worse than a “mere” new Dark Age. Yes, worse. Actually, sheer madness. A civilization losing its mind as well as its guts. Nothing could be more tragic.
voegelinian says
Wellington exemplifies a certain posture which the late blogger Lawrence Auster noticed and often analyzed with scintillating: certain Westerners recognizing how bad and dangerous Islam is, but they can’t offer any remedy. And not only do they have no remedy — they tell people who DO offer a remedy that their remedies are wrong, or impossible, or illegal. Meanwhile, the problem remains horrifically formidable — according to their terms, agreeing with us, who proffer the solution they, the Wellingtonians, reject…!
voegelinian says
“analyzed with scintillating verve…”
Wellington says
Your remedies, like mass deportation, are not, as I have tried to explain to you many times, legally feasible. But this aside, this doesn’t equate to my not having any remedies, though you’d like to think so.
First of all, and most important, is for Islam to no longer to be looked upon as a positive or something neutral by a very large majority in any given Western nation, like Britain, the US or The Netherlands. Not there yet but I think this will happen in time, especially as ordinary folks become better and better informed about Islam. Already a far greater percentage of most any Western populace thinks of Islam skeptically than just twenty years ago and so this is a “remedy” in the making. Also, no Muslim in pursuit of their beliefs should ever be allowed to break Western laws. When they do, prosecute the bastards. No exceptions. No excuses. Already several American states have put forward anti-Sharia legislation. Yes, this is still not nearly enough, but again this is something that would not have happened just twenty years ago. Keep it up.
Encouraging emigration of Muslims from the West, as for example Denmark has done, is yet another route to explore with greater vigor. Furthermore, stop further Muslim immigration to Western nations. Find any legal pretext to do so. Moreover, becoming energy independent, which does not mean only exploring “green” options but using fossil fuels available to us here in the West more so than we have, would greatly relieve the dependence on oil-rich Muslim states by sundry Western nations. A major reason (there are other reasons, of course, including wilful ignorance) why Western leaders remain loath to take on Islam publicly is precisely because of this dependence. Lessen this dependence greatly, something I and many others think is definitely feasible. Additionally, encourage Muslims to take a long look at their sick religion, as Robert Spencer and many other prominent and well known people have. We’re at a watershed moment in history when Islam is being scrutinized in ways and in numbers that it has never had to endure before. Good. Encourage not only non-Muslims but also Muslims to take a long, hard look at a religion which I and many others believe will not withstand scrutiny. A mass exodus from Islam by millions of Muslims, a distinct possibility if not a certainty, will also serve mankind greatly.
This is enough for now. Look, you may not like my remedies, just as I think at least some of your remedies are not feasible, but please don’t keep saying I don’t have any remedies for dealing with the enormous problem of Islam in the West. I most certainly do and I think they will be sufficient over time to deal with what is arguably one of the greatest problems ever to confront mankind, i.e., a major religion which is also a totalitarian ideology and thus an inveterate enemy of liberty.
Reality Check says
Wellington,
Just a short note to say that I love your postings. Please keep them coming!
RC
Defcon 4 says
Yeah, maybe a supercilious, pedantic, ivory tower debate on the nature of islam will solve the problem. Or maybe a series of them.
voegelinian says
Nonsense, Drakken. The West could manage now, or even in 50 years (which is the more likely scenario) with a few million Muslims more within its societies, to undertake the project of deportation. The long we wait, the costlier, messier and bloodier it will be; but it will never be technically impossible (nor legally unfeasible, as Wellington keeps supposing). To conjecture (or apodictically claim) otherwise is to vastly, and strangely, underestimate the West.
Zathras says
Just part of the fact that fair skin and blue eyes are endangered traits now
and Sonntag’s “dead white men” gets its meaning burned into the western psyche.
A real pity that Sweden does not return to the axe for rape as it would be quite ironical and appropriate
Hard to have sympathy for the Swedes who have no had to fight a war for well over a century and it shows by their pathetic response to the war on Sweden as wages by these scum: shooting them is probably too quick.
Every piece of news just hardens my stance on the ideology of Hell and my attitude towards its zealots : NO mercy.
SpiritOf1683 says
Not just over a century, but since 1807 – a full 207 years.
winniethepooh says
I agree, sometimes, intelligent individuals think that they can fix stupid. The fact is you can’t fix stupid.
shabeer says
Rape against Muslim Women
By Sheikh Muhammad Saleh Al-Munajjid ( A Saudi Islamic lecturer and author)
Rape is an abhorrent crime and an abominable sin. This heinous crime is forbidden not only in Islam but in all religions, and all people of sound thinking and pure human nature reject it.
The Arabic word ightisab (rape) refers to taking something wrongfully by force. It is now used exclusively to refer to transgression against the honor of women by force.
This is an abhorrent crime that is forbidden in all religions and in the minds of all wise people and those who possess sound human nature. All earthly systems and laws regard this action as abhorrent and impose the strictest penalties on it.
Islam has a clear stance which states that this repugnant action is haram (forbidden) and imposes a deterrent punishment on the one who commits it.
Islam closes the door to the criminal who wants to commit this crime. Western studies have shown that most rapists are already criminals who commit their crimes under the influence of alcohol and drugs, and they take advantage of the fact that their victims are walking alone in isolated places or staying in the house alone. These studies also show that what the criminals watch on the media and the semi-naked styles of dress in which women go out also lead to the commission of this reprehensible crime.
The laws of Islam came to protect women’s honor and modesty. Islam forbids women to wear clothes that are not modest. In addition, Islam encourages young men and women to marry early, and many other rulings that close the door before rape and other crimes. Hence it comes as no surprise when we hear or read that most of these crimes occur in permissive societies, which are looked up to by some Muslims as examples of civilization and refinement! It is worth mentioning here that in America , for example, Amnesty International stated in a 2004 report entitled “Stop Violence Against Women” that every 90 seconds a woman was raped during that year.
The punishment for rape in Islam is the same as the punishment for zina (adultery or fornication), which is stoning if the perpetrator is married, and one hundred lashes and banishment for one year if he is not married.
Moreover, Ibn `Abdul-Barr (may Allah bless his soul) said
The scholars are unanimously agreed that the rapist is to be subjected to the hadd punishment if there is clear evidence against him that he deserves the hadd punishment, or if he admits to that. Otherwise, he is to be punished (that is, if there is no proof that the hadd punishment for zina may be carried out against him because he does not confess and there are not four witnesses, then the judge may punish him and stipulate a punishment that will deter him and others like him). There is no punishment for the woman if it is true that he forced her and overpowered her. (Al-Istidhkaar, 7/146).
In addition, the rapist is subject to the hadd punishment for zina, even if the rape was not carried out at knifepoint or gunpoint. If the use of a weapon was threatened, then he is a muharib, and is to be subjected to the hadd punishment described in the verse in which Allah says (The recompense of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and do mischief in the land is only that they shall be killed or crucified or their hands and their feet be cut off from opposite sides, or be exiled from the land. That is their disgrace in this world, and a great torment is theirs in the Hereafter) (Al-Ma’idah 5:33).
So the judge has the choice of the four punishments mentioned in this verse and may choose whichever he thinks is most suitable to attain the objective, which is to spread peace and security in society, and ward off evildoers and aggressors.
Source: http://www.islam-qa.com
Should A Rape Victim produce four witnesses
By Sheikh Ahmad Kutty, a senior lecturer and Islamic scholar at the Islamic Institute of Toronto, Ontario, Canada, states:
In Islam, we are not allowed to tarnish the honor of anyone. One is required to produce four witnesses when making an allegation of adultery against another person; otherwise, one will be guilty of slandering.
A raped woman is a victim that must be treated with honor and kindness. She is not required to produce four witnesses to prove the crime done against her, nor is she punished for the crime done against her.
If a person makes an allegation of adultery against another person (male or female) he or she must produce four witnesses to support such an allegation; otherwise, he or she is guilty of slandering, which is a grave offense in Islam, for we are not to tarnish the honor of anyone.
A woman who has been raped cannot be asked to produce witnesses; her claim shall be accepted unless there are tangible grounds to prove otherwise. To insist that she provide witnesses is akin to inflicting further pain on her. If anyone refutes her claim of innocence, the onus is on him to provide evidence, and she may simply deny the claim by making a solemn oath, thus clearing herself in public. The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said, “The onus to provide evidence falls on the one who makes a claim, and the one who denies (the same) can absolve himself or herself by making a solemn oath to the contrary.”
As for a spouse who witnesses his or her partner committing adultery and the other party denies it and they are unable to provide witnesses, they are, if they so desire, to part company by repudiating each other by engaging in what is known as a solemn oath and prayer of curse (li`an). It is described thus in the Qur’an: “And those who accuse their wives, and have no witnesses but themselves, then the testimony of each of them shall be a testimony sworn by God repeated four times, that he is indeed truthful. And the fifth (oath) is that God’s curse be upon him if he is lying. And it shall avert punishment from her that she testify a testimony repeated and sworn by God four times, that he is lying. And a fifth (oath) that the wrath of God be upon her, if he has spoken the truth” (An-Nur: 6-9).
Excerpted, with slight modifications, from: http://www.muslims.ca
Punishment for Rapists
By Dr. Ahmad Yusuf Sulaiman, professor of law and Islamic Shari`ah at Cairo University:
Islamically speaking, the raped woman is not guilty of any sin because she was forced to it beyond her control. Stressing this, the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) is reported to have said, “Allah has forgiven my Ummah for their mistakes, what they forget and what they are forced to do.” Thus, the raped woman is a victim and all members of her community should deal with her with honor and kindness and should encourage her to obtain her rights through all possible means.
If a woman is raped, she should press charges against the one who raped her. If it is proved that she was raped, then the court must apply discretionary punishment or ta`zir on the rapist. Such discretionary punishment may reach the death penalty, according to some schools of thought. This is based wholly on the fact that the rape is confirmed through medical tests and court procedures, without the confession of the rapist himself.
In cases where the rapist confesses the crime, then the penalty for zina (illegitimate sexual intercourse) is to be applied to him. If he is not married, then he is to be whipped 100 lashes. If he is married, then he is to be stoned to death.
As for the rape victim, no punishment is to be inflicted on her. She is to be treated with dignity and honor, and all forms of help should be given to her to gain her rights.
Excerpted from :http://www.islamonline.net/ Fatwa
Reality Check says
Thank you for the truckload of “taqiyya” you dumped on this page.
Sorry to inform you – it didn’t work.
CGW says
This musloid haunts alisina.org, copy/pasting long screeds in constant defense of islam. He doesn’t have an independent rational thought in his head.
Islamisdeath says
Rapists operate in secrecy they are not committing rape in the open. Rapists like all muslims are cowards. No woman can ever produce four witnesses that she has been raped. Your long load of BS is just that BS.
RodSerling says
Shabeer,
Your witness, # 1 “…the rapist is subject to the hadd punishment for zina, even if the rape was not carried out at knifepoint or gunpoint…”
Your witness, # 3 “…If it is proved that she was raped, then the court must apply discretionary punishment or ta`zir on the rapist…”
The contradiction is no problem for Shabeer, who’s just dumping his pastiche here with no real understanding or developed view of his own. He also doesn’t seem to have a problem with the contradictory statements in his sources about “four witnesses.”
Sheikh Muhammad Saleh Al-Munajjid (Islamically correctly) classifies rape as theft of a woman’s honour. However, the Sheikh also knows that, since a Muslim man has a legal right to have sex with his wife and his “right hand possessions” (slaves and captives), he cannot be punished in these situations because he is not stealing. His wives and his slave women are his own possessions for his own use, as granted by “Allah” (Q 4:3, 4:24, 70:29-30, 23:5-6) and as permitted via the example of Muhammad (Q 33:50-52), as described in the Hadith and Sira, and as enshrined in Islamic law. These women are not permitted to refuse. Moreover, if the woman is not dressed according to Islamic codes (see your own Sheikh Munajjid: “Islam forbids women to wear clothes that are not modest”), and does not yell out in alarm and exert physical force to fight off the rapist (to prove that her intentions are opposed to the rapist’s), then she is blamed for the rape (because she failed to adequately prevent her honour from being stolen) and the man’s punishment is waived or reduced.
Women who are regarded in Islam as “whores” are not regarded as having any honour that can be stolen, and therefore they have no basis in Islam for complaining about having been robbed. As one can see from the above description, and knowing most present-day Muslims’ opinions of non-Muslim women and especially Western non-Muslim women (the women of the harbis, no less), it is practically impossible in Islam to convict a Muslim male for raping a non-Muslim female. If you find a documented case in the Islamic world where the Muslim rapist is punished and his non-Muslim woman victim is not punished, let me know.
Islam also permits rape in the sense of allowing adult men to have sex with girls who are too young to form a proper consent. This is permitted by the Quran (65:4), Hadith, Muhammad’s example, and Islamic law.
“Sheikh Ahmad Kutty” is, at best, giving his own personal opinion, which carries no legal weight whatsoever either in Canada or in the Islamic world. What he says about four witnesses not being required in cases of rape is contradicted by the real-world evidence showing that non-Muslim women who are raped in the Gulf states are themselves punished for zina because they cannot produce four witnesses to support their claims, while at the same time their complaint is taken as an admission of having had sex. Pakistan’s jails are loaded with women prisoners who are there because they reported a rape, could not produce four witnesses, and were therefore punished for zina.
Classical Islam permits pregnancy and confession as evidence in cases of zina, if four witnesses are not provided. In some modern Islamic countries, other evidence is also permitted, but the “four witnesses” nonsense persists, due entirely to pious adherence to Islam’s texts and prophet’s rulings.
RodSerling says
More from shabeer’s first source, Sheikh Muhammed Salih Al-Munajjid (and the Sheikh’s website):
http://islamqa.info/en/11885
“…the reason why the Sahaabah engaged in ‘azl was because they did not want the woman – especially a slave woman – to get pregnant, so that they could continue to enjoy a physical relationship with them and the woman would still be able to do their work.
Islam Q&A
Sheikh Muhammed Salih Al-Munajjid”
Also see:
http://islamqa.info/en/20802
http://islamqa.info/en/20085
“The Book of Allaah indicates that the sexual relationships that are permitted are only of two types, either marriage or those (women slaves) whom one’s right hand possesses.
Al-Umm, 5/43.
The wife has no right to object to her husband owning female slaves or to his having intercourse with them.”
http://islamqa.info/en/10382
voegelinian says
Excellent rebuttal from Rod Serling of shabeer’s dump-truck of paste; which shabeer, of course, will never address adequately.
Will Doohan says
Who cares what your ‘Sheiks’, ‘Imams’, ‘Ayatollahs’, ‘Clerics’ or so-called ‘Doctors of Islamic law’ teach? They study the Koran, Hadiths, and Sunnah like witch doctors poking thru the entrails of chickens looking for signs and portents. The study of irrational nonsense does not lead to wisdom, no matter how ‘holy’ you think those writings are. There are no books written by ‘god’ nor can anyone have written down anything that ‘he’ supposedly said because ‘he’ or ‘it’ (or ‘she’) does not exist.
Human beings in the 21st should use human reason based on reality to solve their problems, not the primitive religions of tribes from 5,000, 2,000, or 1,400 years ago. The sooner humanity ditches all the “revealed” religions and belief in any pantheons of ‘Gods’ form any culture, the better off we will all be.
LX says
@Will Doohan
Any reasonable person can only second to your words. But belivers of any religion are NOT reasonble persons, they chose not to be reasoning but beliveing instead.
“The study of irrational nonsense does not lead to wisdom, no matter how ‘holy’ you think those writings are.”
These are key words, valid to any religion, and particulary Islam.
Unforunately you can´t make people not to believe if they want to, so I think they should be left alone – as long as they don´t want to impose thier belief or their social “rules” to the rest of the associety.
The hate I read in these commentshere is not the answer, neither the ignoring of the problems. Western assosiaties must find the way to apply the existing laws and rules to stop the believers to force their will over others.
gravenimage says
LX wrote:
The hate I read in these commentshere is not the answer
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Heaven forfend that we should hate supremacist rapists!
Really, we should be ashamed of ourselves…sarc/off
gravenimage says
The repulsive Taqiyya artist shabeer wrote:
Rape against Muslim Women
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Right off the bat shabeer makes it clear that there is no recourse for these poor women in Scandinavia raped by his vile coreligionists—since they are not Muslim.
Indeed, there is *nothing* more Islamic than Muslims raping unveiled Infidel women.
More:
Rape is an abhorrent crime and an abominable sin. This heinous crime is forbidden not only in Islam but in all religions
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What an utter falsehood. The “Prophet” himself raped victims and took sex slaves; he even sneered at his rapist thugs for using withdrawal so that their victims would not be impregnated. Some of Muhammed’s victims were women whose husbands and families he had just slaughtered.
Rape is perfectly Islamic.
More:
These studies also show that what the criminals watch on the media and the semi-naked styles of dress in which women go out also lead to the commission of this reprehensible crime.
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Not only is this false, but this is more Muslim blaming of the victim. *Ugh*.
More:
The laws of Islam came to protect women’s honor and modesty. Islam forbids women to wear clothes that are not modest.
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This is a Muslim using Muslim rape as an excuse for forcing women into Burqas. Circular “reasoning” of the most appalling kind.
More:
In addition, Islam encourages young men and women to marry early, and many other rulings that close the door before rape and other crimes.
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Where to start? For one thing, prudent late marriage in the West hardly leads to more rape. This is utterly false.
Moreover, while Islam forces women and even little girls into marriage, it does not encourage early marriage for men. In fact, with polygamy and bride price, many young Muslim men are unable to marry, and are encouraged to go on Jihad, instead—where there will be Infidel women to rape.
More:
Hence it comes as no surprise when we hear or read that most of these crimes occur in permissive societies…
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What utter crap. Rape is rife in the Muslim world—it is much rarer in civilized countries, and it is taken very seriously.
Note that this pious Muslim makes no note of the fact that so many of the rapes in civilized countries are perpetrated *by Muslims*.
More:
The punishment for rape in Islam is the same as the punishment for zina (adultery or fornication), which is stoning if the perpetrator is married, and one hundred lashes and banishment for one year if he is not married.
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Isn’t this *part of the problem*? Islam regards rape as no worse than consensual lovemaking.
But actually, it is worse than that—since any woman who reports a rape may be accused of “Zina” herself.
Moreover, as noted, there is no penalty for a Muslim to rape an unveiled Infidel.
Many Muslim clerics have emphasized this, calling the victims “uncovered meat”, and holding that rape is not to be considered a crime when the victim is Kuffar.
More:
The scholars are unanimously agreed that the rapist is to be subjected to the hadd punishment if there is clear evidence against him that he deserves the hadd punishment, or if he admits to that. Otherwise, he is to be punished (that is, if there is no proof that the hadd punishment for zina may be carried out against him because he does not confess and there are not four witnesses, then the judge may punish him and stipulate a punishment that will deter him and others like him). There is no punishment for the woman if it is true that he forced her and overpowered her.
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What this passage is really saying is that the only way the rapist can be proven guilty is through confession or the presence of four male witnesses. The second is virtually impossible, and the former—on the very rare occasions it occurs—is usually the result of torture. Such a suspect is rarely tortured unless he is a low-ranking individual.
As for the woman, it is almost impossible for her to be safe *unless* the man can be compelled to confess.
More:
Should A Rape Victim produce four witnesses
In Islam, we are not allowed to tarnish the honor of anyone. One is required to produce four witnesses when making an allegation of adultery against another person; otherwise, one will be guilty of slandering.
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Of course, this is crap. 75% of the women in prison in Afghanistan and Pakistan are in on charges of Zina. Did they all have four witnesses? Ridiculous.
More:
A raped woman is a victim that must be treated with honor and kindness. She is not required to produce four witnesses to prove the crime done against her, nor is she punished for the crime done against her.
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Perhaps this fine fellow needs to take this up with his coreligionists in Dar-al-Islam. They appear to disagree…
Kepha says
Shabeer, the thing you post is exactly the issue at stake.
Your ‘Alim speak of what a wicked thing the rape of a Muslim woman is, but seems to say nothing about non-Muslims. Is it OK for Muslim men to rape non-Muslim women? Too many of your co-religionists who’ve moved to Norway and Sweden seem to think so.
Tim says
Correction: there’s a small typo. Sexual crimes are 17,400 – not 75,000. But for Sweden this figure is absolutely enormous. This is a country where crime was virtually unknown. Unknown before Muslims got imported…
tesa says
thats really taking care of the, duty of care, bit, don’t you think? or maybe that only applies to other than gov’t policy
tesa says
the references in islam of love and benevolence to others, always refers to other muslims especially in majority countries where islam is minority the koran allows lies in allahs name anyway.
citycat says
A small country is super bullied.
Gina G says
Muslim children are brought up to have no conscience. The young boys are NEVER disciplined. Therefore the adults act like Neanderthals. There is NO redemption for them. Punishment should be execution for their crimes. Jail cannot rehabilitate adults with no conscience.
gravenimage says
Gina G wrote:
Muslim children are brought up to have no conscience. The young boys are NEVER disciplined.
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This is *very* true, Gina. The other day I was on the bus when a woman in a Hijab got on with a little boy of about three and a baby girl in a stroller. After they sat down the boy started kicking the stroller.
The girl started whimpering, and the mother ineffectually told the boy to stop, but she was smiling and coy when she said it. She also made vague motions toward him, but didn’t actually stop him at all.
If I had thought the baby was actually in danger at the time, I would have done something myself—but I was obvious rather loath to intervene; I very much doubt that the assistance of a “filthy Infidel” would have been well received.
But I couldn’t help but think that lessons that the boy—and his sister—were learning at that moment, and what it boded for the future.
dumbledoresarmy says
Gravenimage
that story reminds me of a very arresting post made many years ago at jihadwatch; so arresting that I copied and kept it, tucked away in an e-clippings file that I have called “wounded souls”. It describes two young Muslim boys and their relentless bullying of their little sister.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2004/06/rumsfeld-fears-losing-war-on-islamic-extremism.html
bluewisteria | June 7, 2004 1:45 AM
“…The people in America need to wake up.
“I was at a party for a friend of my son.
“The neighbors, Muslims, were invited.
“Only the children came: 2 boys about 7 and 5 and a little girl about 3 or 4.
“The boys would not let her eat at the table.
“Then we sat her at the table with all the other children and those boys made sure she did not eat by intimidation.
” I encouraged her, but then when I moved away she stopped eating.
“So when the children were done we moved the food outside and the little girl sat and ate at the picnic table alone.
“Then when it was time to line up for the pinata, we put the little girl first after the birthday girl since she was the youngest, and the boys followed in order of age youngest to oldest.
“While the birthday girl was hitting the pinata, the boys rearranged and all of a sudden the little girl was off to the side–out of the line and the boys were in line with the oldest first.
“She was the quietest, non-smiling, saddest little girl I have ever seen and the boys were arrogant and difficult.
“Already the children were indoctrinated into the cult.
“There was no attempt at assimilation and nor will there be–probably until the little girl gets to school and is away from those boys.
“The mother could not leave the house.
“This is a belief system that is 100 percent incompatible with American values, and the Americans will not accept this.”
I will note also that in Ayaan Hirsi Ali’s book “Infidel”, when she describes Saudi Arabia and the Muslim families she saw there, she mentions the spoiled, bratty little boys who bullied not only their sisters but their mothers.
Angemon says
Bad dawggie posted:
“The 2011 crimes occurred during a period when Islam-bashing propaganda, which initially took off in 2010, continued and even intensified.”
So, you’re trying to link the generic term of “islam bashing propaganda” with a (supposed) increase in anti-muslim hate crimes. Here’s what you need to do to prove your point: link to what you consider “islam-bashing propaganda”, explain to why it’s propaganda and link to hate crimes explicitly committed because of said propaganda.
For example, suppose you consider a bus ad saying “In any war between the civilised man and the savage support the civilised man. Support Israel. Defeat Jihad.” as “islam-bashing propaganda”. You need to explain to why is it false and link to a hate crime explicitly committed because of it. You know, explicitly, like when Mujahid Abu Hamza and Ismail Ibn Abdullah explicitly pointed to quranic verses to justify the savage, unprovoked butchering of Lee Rigby.
Tell ya what, for every hate crime explicitly caused by “islam-bashing propaganda” i’ll post to a crime committed by muslims and justified by means of quranic verses or islamic orthodoxy. The first to run out of crimes to give has to admit the other one is right – meaning if i run out of crimes i have to say that islam is a religion of peace and if you run out of crimes you have to admit islam mandates warfare and subjugation of non-muslims, discriminating against women and religious minorities.
I’ve given you Lee Rigby, so you’re owning me two hate crimes explicitly caused by “islam-bashing propaganda”. Go!
voegelinian says
Interesting; another long thread of many reactions/responses to some commenter who is invisible (or who has been banned and his comments apparently deleted).
Angemon says
And that’s why i started quoting not only what i’m replying to but also the username.
dumbledoresarmy says
Advice for any Islamosavvy Anglophone Swedes who may have found their way to this forum and are listening in, either now or in future.
All is *not* lost. Choose not to despair. There *are* things you can do.
1/ Join – and support – the Swedish Democrats.
Then push for various measures to resist Islamisation.
a/ Push for an end to Muslim immigration: full stop, ASAP.
b/ Push for the stripping of citizenship from and prevention of return to Sweden of Muslims who are found to have gone off from Sweden to wage jihad in Syria or anywhere else.
c/ Campaign for it to be made much more difficult to get either residency, permanent residency, or citizenship in Sweden;
d/ and for removal of citizenship, or of residency or refugee status, (followed by immediate deportation, or deportation after jail time served) from persons found to have obtained such by fraudulent means and/ or to have committed major crimes of any kind (such as rape or murder) after obtaining it,
e/ or who after obtaining citizenship or residency or while possessing ‘refugee’ status are found to have advocated or plotted or attempted acts of jihad terror OR to have specifically advocated, plotted, attempted or practised aspects of the Sharia – e.g. forced/child ‘marriage’, ‘honor’ murders, murder of ‘apostates’ or ‘blasphemers’, polygyny – that breach Swedish criminal law.
f/ Campaign for an end to ALL further accommodation with the sharia in any way shape or form: no more sharia finance or halal food, no more ‘prayer rooms’, NO mass threat displays [that is, lots of mohammedan males ‘praying’ ] in public places such as streets or squares, and a ban on the public wearing of the Slave Rag, in particular, the Slave Mask (niqab or burqa), for it is not only a security risk but also serves as the functional equivalent of a swastika armband on an occupying Nazi stormtrooper.
g/ Campaign vigorously against any and all proposals to build new mosques and against all proposals for Islamic schools; both will be “hate indoctrination” centres. Ayaan Hirsi Ali, apostate from Islam, told the Dutch, the British, the Australian and the US governments *not* to permit Muslim ‘faith-based schools’; she also stated firmly that there was no need to extend such a ban over schools run by persons of *other* faiths (e.g. Christians, Jews) since they were *not* like the Muslim schools.
For ideas on how to resist the building of mosques (aka forts/ military bases) and madrasas, check out the website of Gavin Boby’s “Law and Freedom Foundation”; ask the Swedish Democrats to invite Mr Boby to Sweden to tell you how he does it, so that his methods can be adapted for local Swedish conditions.
2/ Check out the (Danish) Free Press Society: donate!
3/ Support Lars Vilks and any others who are speaking out. Campaign on their behalf. Make it clear to all your friends and family that you support such people.
4/ Circulate Nicolai Sennel’s “Among Criminal Muslims” amongst your acquaintance. – How difficult is it for Swedes to read Danish?? Is there a Swedish version of the book? If not, write to Sennels’ publishers and demand one!
5/ If you are 50 or under, join the Army Reserve (I understand Sweden has such a thing).
6/ Male or female, sign up your whole family for unarmed combat/ self-defence classes.
7/ Form a Neighbourhood Watch group: get to know your non-Muslim neighbours; look out for each other.
8/ Get a hunting license, if you don’t already have one, and go hunting regularly, so as to be legally in possession of firearms and practised in the use of same.
9/ Refuse to patronise any business – such as a restaurant – that you know to be owned and/ or run by Muslims. Do *not* buy anything you know to have been produced by a Muslim country – e.g. clothes made in Bangladesh, rice from Pakistan or Indonesia, figs from Turkey. Tell the businesses which stock them that you are refusing to buy these products because of the gross human rights abuses perpetrated in Islamic countries.
10/ If you think of yourself as a Christian, but haven’t been to church for a while, consider reconnecting. Check out your local congregations, and find out whether they know anything at all about Islam. If they don’t, have a go at raising awareness.
dumbledoresarmy says
And pursuant to my remarks above, a final one, to do with demographics.
Affirm life! (this is what the Jews of Israel do).
Smile cheerfully at every obviously non-Muslim Swede you encounter – whether immigrant or native – who is pregnant and/ or accompanied by children. Open doors for non-Muslim mums; give them seats on public transport; be smilingly tolerant if they are nursing in public, or if their baby or toddler cries and acts up a bit.
If you are yourself of an age to have children and are in a stable relationship but do not yet have children – don’t waste time, have a child. Raise that kid to be a strong, happy, proud little Swede. Take him or her walking – and hunting – in your country’s many wild places; go cross-country skiing. Teach him or her the folk songs, the dances, the poetry, whatever aspects of traditional Swedish culture you know and already enjoy, or have always wanted to find out about. If you identify as a Christian, take your kid to church and teach them about the faith, and celebrate all the festivals. And don’t stop at one kid. If you have a child, and there are no medical reasons why you cannot have another, have a second…if two, have a third; if three, have a fourth.
DON’T do it primarily to “outbreed the Muslims” – do it first of all because life is good, life is beautiful, and it’s a good thing for your child to have siblings to argue and play with and go through life with. I grew up in a large family, I wouldn’t be without *any* of my brothers and sisters; it was *fun*, we got up to all sorts of creative play, even if it was sometimes difficult for my parents economically.
If you have grandchildren…rejoice in them and give every possible encouragement and assistance to your children as they raise them; celebrate every new grandchild born to you and your circle of friends and kin. If you are single – be the best possible uncle, aunt, great-aunt, great-uncle or godparent that you can be. And that will include, if you are Islamosavvy, using every opportunity to teach and warn your children and grandchildren, nieces and nephews and godchildren, about Islam and the necessity of resisting islamisation.
Keeping up the end of native (and immigrant) non-Muslim Swedes will be the happy *byproduct* of a resolute reaffirmation of life. Israeli Jews have suffered far, far worse from Muslims than Swedes have yet endured, and it hasn’t caused them to give up on having kids.
If this advice is followed, and a child-friendly family-friendly atmosphere/ ‘fashion’ is established, then arguments that Sweden “needs” lots more immigrants will fall flat, because indigenous (and assimilated-immigrant) non-Muslimbirthrates will start coming back up to replacement level.
In other words: don’t focus on growling at and about those native non-Muslim Swedes who haven’t had kids; focus on noticing, finding, celebrating and encouraging the ones who *are* having kids or who *would* if they were given just a bit of encouragment.
Kepha says
Good comment, DDA. Maybe, while we’re at it, start agitating that abortion on demand is societal suicide, and stick up for the traditional family. Our Western mad rush to “normalize” perversion and put vulnerable orphans in the hands of same sex “couples” is another evil.
It seems to me that one reason why the Trotskyite Stieg Larsson wrote some of the books he did was because there’s also a lot of sexual assault against Swedish women from “liberated” (grace-less?) men.
Further, at every opportunity, remind Muslims that their Da’wa boys have never explained how, if the Scriptures have been corrupted, the non-cooperating Jews and Christians read the same Old Testament; while different sects of Christians read the same New Testament. Remind them that the way to God is not a check-list of do’s and don’t’s, but God himself becoming man, living among us, bearing our sins on the cross, and rising from the dead on the third day–while everyone admits that Muhammad still lies in the dust of Medina awaiting the resurrection and judgment that all of us must face.
LX says
“Philip Jihadski
April 2, 2014 at 9:08 pm
You’re the one who gave the “statistics”. Ask yourself.
And learn to use the “reply” function properly.”
@Salome said:
“Actually, theNorwegian statistic is for rape by strangers. Still, a telling statistic.”
My request of statistics was adressed to Salome.
So cool it a bit, I do know how to use the Reply but you might learn something here:
Removing parts in the text in this forum often leads to corrupting of the hierarchy. So the moderator should be a little more careful or restore the ingress after modding.
I´m only responsible for what I write, not for what you understand.
Nils Eldor says
The facts are a little wrong. According to the police in Oslo, Norway, 100% of all outdoor rapes was committed by immigrants. Which do not mean that all rapes was done by immigrants, for that we do not know. Also the the ones not reported to the police might be many.
LX says
@Philip Jihadski
“Philip Jihadski
April 2, 2014 at 9:14 pm
So are you saying that all of those women in the survey are lying?
To what end?
I fail to see why you are beating this dead horse.”
These women are not necessarily lying in the sense of “saying untruth willfully”, but depending on HOW you put the question, you might get a misleading answer.
Where is that dead horse???
The article is completely wrong already in its title, distort the facts all through and leads to wrong conclusions. This wat it takes the focus from the REAL problems Islam means in Europe, it also degrades a just cause against Islam to hatemonger. You can’t fight lying Muslims with you own lies.
Just take this meaning:
“Here 100 percent of all rapes in the last five years in Oslo were committed by immigrants from “non-Western” countries.”
I looked and listened to the report, and this is NOT what the police says there!
She says: 100% of all ASSAULT TYPE OF rapes THERE THE PERPETRATOR IS KNOWN were committed by ….
It’s a big bloody difference, tho assaulting rape is just a fraction of ALL rapes, and also only in a fraction of cases are the perpetrators known. Not having the correct numbers, just by comparing to the Swedish statistics, this non-western-immigrants committed rapes will be somewhere about 50% of all rapes.
So stating that ALL RAPES were committed by muslims is a blatant lie, a very idiotic one, which is very CONTRA-PRODUCTIV, criticism of Islam loses credit by that!
Do you get the picture NOW?
voegelinian says
“tho assaulting rape is just a fraction of ALL rapes”
1) what “fraction” is it? You see, 90/100 is a “fraction”, just as 1/100 is.
2) Where’s the evidence to back up your claim that
a) “assaulting rape is just a fraction of ALL rapes”
and
b) what that fraction is, exactly.
?
LX will not answer, of course; or if he does, he will not provide an adequate response to my questions.
LX says
@oegelinian
1. I don´t have any official statistics from Norway, and in that police report you can see on Youtube they don´t give these numbers. In Sweden (probably similar to Norway) this proportions are about 10-15% of all reported rapes are assault type.
2. Unfortunately police in Sweden is not very effective, less then 10% of all reorted crimes go to court. So the cases there the perpetrator is known can´t be more then 10%. of all the assault type of rapes.
So the number of assult-rapes there the the perpetrator is known is just a fraction of ALL rapes. And if all the above are committed by muslims, still just a fraction of ALL rapes. Thereby the claim “all rapes committed by muslims” is completely false.
To the full picture: muslims are also represented in the rest of the sexual harresment cases, and rape cases, but not as dramatically as in the above mentioned cathegory. They might also been OVERrepresented, I can´t find any reliabale numbers about that.
Still: fighting for a right cause (against islamization) can´t be done by falsifying, lying, and generally being stupid hatemonglers. Instead of convincing those you want to participate, you scare them away. And that is what I see daily in Sweden, people not happy about muslims and islamization, don´t want to be associated with the behaving above.
voegelinian says
You didn’t answer my #2 question — “where the evidence for your claim”. You just repeated your claim, buttressing it now with a specificity (“10-15%”), but still providing no evidence.
EyesWideOpen says
While I must pay homage to the Swedish people for their loving care of the Jewish exodus during WWII and religious minorities that suffered persecution, this open tolerance has become a two-edged sword for letting in these Muslim animals into their country. Sweden, do what must be right and either send these vermin to jail until they rot, confine them to a communal area that forbids intermixing with the innocent and kind-hearten Swedish people, or else, drive the rapists into the sea.
And to all those critics who decry such words as words of hate and intolerance, open your eyes and see the Muslim savage for what he truly is but a conniving, women beating, antisemitic, christian killing, and savage jihadist whose ideas of peace involve a pure Islamized society.
Eurabia is true!
gravenimage says
When it comees to rapes, Islamized Sweden is already in a state of war
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Yes—but will Sweden even realize this?
More:
Sweden’s neighbor Norway, the country most similar to Sweden. Here 100 percent of all rapes in the last five years in Oslo were committed by immigrants from “non-Western” countries.
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Yes—*every single* stranger rape in Oslo over the past five years was committed by an immigrant—in almost every case by a Muslim.
And with the “tournante” in France and the rape and “grooming” of children in Britain, this problem is growing all over the West.
We we acknowledge that Muslims are at war with us before it is too late?
voegelinian says
“When it comees to rapes, Islamized Sweden is already in a state of war”
The entire West is now already at war — a world war. Only problem: one side (our side) doesn’t realize it yet.
Asymmetrical World War
gravenimage says
Voegelinian wrote:
The entire West is now already at war — a world war. Only problem: one side (our side) doesn’t realize it yet.
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Very true, Voegelinian. I wasn’t meaning to imply that this was just the case with Sweden.
I would, in fact, go even further and say that that the entire Infidel world is at war, but in many cases fails to realize it, or fails to realize the scope.
Islam doesn’t refer to the Infidel world as Dar-al-Harb (House of War) for nothing.
LX says
@gravenimage
[April 4, 2014 at 2:25 am
LX wrote:
2. Over 90% of all rape reported is domestic conflicts between husband and wife…
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Nope; sorry. These statistics for Norway are all *stranger rapes*.]
Where did I mention Norway in this context???
I wrote about the SWEDISH rape statistics in general.
You are freely mixing farting and barking.
And about Norway: the claim that “Here 100 percent of all rapes in the last five years in Oslo were committed by immigrants from “non-Western” countries.”
is false, as I pointed out before: the policewoman said: all off the ASSAULT type of rapes (you call it stranger rapes) there the PERPETRATOR HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED. Thereby the rapes by non-western immigrants only applies to a fraction of all rapes, and NOT ALL of the rapes.
Conclusion: “Here 100 percent of all rapes in the last five years in Oslo were committed by immigrants from “non-Western” countries.” = FALSE
[More:
And even if the immigrants are over represented in it, locals do that just as well, specially youngs on party ther they drink so much that they lose all control.
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Nice try. Were this the case, then it wouldn’t be the case that every stranger rape committed in Oslo in the past five years was perpetrated by an immigrant.]
Still Sweden, still generally speaking about rape Too difficult to understand that when I write Sweden, then I talk about Sweden?
LX says
For the last time:
The title:
“When it comes to rapes, Islamized Sweden is already in a state of war”
FALSE
Sweden is NOT islamized (yet, thanks God!) but will be if we can’t bring up better then a bunch of lies, exaggerations, misinterpretations which lead easily to accusations of “Islamophoby”.
“If we want to have a hint about who is committing these tens of thousands of rapes and other types of sexual assaults yearly”
FALSE
There a re NO tens of thousands rapes committed in Sweden. I quoted the statistics further above, also the fact that the change of the numbers of rape is originated from the change of the legal terms.
Any Muslim can point at you claiming you are liars, and rub the facts on your noses.
“Here 100 percent of all rapes in the last five years in Oslo were committed by immigrants from “non-Western” countries”
FALSE
Rapes are committed in homes, on parties, after a short acquaintance and other circumstances. A fraction of ALL rapes are of the type “assault” there the perpetrator hits a woman on a dark corner on the streets and rapes her. In an even smaller fraction of this cases the perpetrator is identified to be non-western immigrants.
Again, if you try to convince someone with the slightest understanding of set theory, you stand there and look stupid.
What is this forum? A congress of illiterate morons?
I don’t want to see Muslim idiots being exchanged by non-muslim idiots.
If we want to stop muslimization then we should not give them ammunition, but keep our powder dry. This is far more important then clapping each other in the back for saying something false to degrade Muslims – and that fires back on us.
LX says
“In an even smaller fraction of this cases the perpetrator is identified to be non-western immigrants.” should be:
An even smaller fraction of this cases the perpetrator is identified and THEY are all non-western immigrants, which is not the same as ALL rapes committed by non-western immigrants.
gravenimage says
LX wrote:
And about Norway: the claim that “Here 100 percent of all rapes in the last five years in Oslo were committed by immigrants from “non-Western” countries.”
is false, as I pointed out before: the policewoman said: all off the ASSAULT type of rapes (you call it stranger rapes) there the PERPETRATOR HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED. Thereby the rapes by non-western immigrants only applies to a fraction of all rapes, and NOT ALL of the rapes.
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Stranger rapes cover most rapes that are not marital or date rape. Of course this is significant.
As for your caveat that this only applies to rapes where the perpetrator has been identified—well, duh. Obviously, this can only apply to cases where the perpetrator has been identified.
This is a *shocking* statistic. *Not a single* identifiable stranger rape in Norway’s main city was committed by a native Norwegian.
Moreover, your implication that statistics would look very different for non-stranger rapes, that’s questionable, given the fact that Islam *condones marital rape*—in fact, it is not even recognized as a crime.
Norway is under siege—and there is no reason to think things are much different in Sweden.
Here’s Fjordman on the epidemic of rape in Sweden and Norway:
“Muslim Rape Epidemic in Sweden and Norway – Authorities Look the Other Way”
http://fjordman.blogspot.com/2005/02/muslim-rape-epidemic-in-sweden-and.html
More:
Still Sweden, still generally speaking about rape Too difficult to understand that when I write Sweden, then I talk about Sweden?
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OK—let’s talk Sweden:
“The Living Hell For Swedish women: 5% Muslim Pop commit nearly 77.6% of all rape crimes”
http://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2012/08/20/the-living-hell-for-swedish-women-5-muslims-commit-nearly-77-6-of-all-rape-crimes/
Given that Sweden—out of embarrassment, most likely—no longer collects statistics on the nationality of the perpetrator, the numbers are probably higher now. The last concrete stats are from 2001, when the Muslim population was just a fraction of what it is now.
More:
For the last time:
The title:
“When it comes to rapes, Islamized Sweden is already in a state of war”
FALSE
Sweden is NOT islamized (yet, thanks God!) but will be if we can’t bring up better then a bunch of lies, exaggerations, misinterpretations which lead easily to accusations of “Islamophoby”.
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I don’t know—even if it hasn’t gotten worse, the fact that *over three quarters*of rapes of Swedish women are perpetrated by Muslims would seem to be concerning. How is such concern “Islamophoby”?
More stats:
“from the Crime Prevention Council, Brå, it is four times more likely that a known rapist is born abroad, compared to persons born in Sweden. Resident aliens from Algeria, Libya, Morocco and Tunisia dominate the group of rape suspects.”
In other words, these are virtually all Muslims.
http://muslimrapewave.wordpress.com/1655-2/
More:
Any Muslim can point at you claiming you are liars, and rub the facts on your noses.
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How—by claiming that they are “only” responsible for three quarters of the rapes?
More:
“Here 100 percent of all rapes in the last five years in Oslo were committed by immigrants from “non-Western” countries”
FALSE
Rapes are committed in homes, on parties, after a short acquaintance and other circumstances. A fraction of ALL rapes are of the type “assault” there the perpetrator hits a woman on a dark corner on the streets and rapes her. In an even smaller fraction of this cases the perpetrator is identified to be non-western immigrants.
Again, if you try to convince someone with the slightest understanding of set theory, you stand there and look stupid.
What is this forum? A congress of illiterate morons?
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Astonishing that you *don’t* consider the statistic that all stranger rapes with an identified perpetrator were committed by immigrants.
Why wouldn’t you consider this an alarming statistic?
More:
I don’t want to see Muslim idiots being exchanged by non-muslim idiots.
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*Appalling*. Even were someone to accept your premise, you are drawing a moral equivalence between people who are (supposedly) poor with statistics with *rapists*.
More:
If we want to stop muslimization then we should not give them ammunition, but keep our powder dry. This is far more important then clapping each other in the back for saying something false to degrade Muslims – and that fires back on us.
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More false equivalence. If we dare to point out the shockingly high incident of Muslim rapes of Scandinavian women, then we are to be regarded as no better than than those rapists ourselves.
The question is why *you* aren’t more alarmed by this threat to your fellow Swedes. Unless, of course, you don’t consider them in that light at all…
LX says
@gravenimage said:
OK—let’s talk Sweden:
“The Living Hell For Swedish women: 5% Muslim Pop commit nearly 77.6% of all rape crimes”
http://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2012/08/20/the-living-hell-for-swedish-women-5-muslims-commit-nearly-77-6-of-all-rape-crimes/
Given that Sweden—out of embarrassment, most likely—no longer collects statistics on the nationality of the perpetrator, the numbers are probably higher now. The last concrete stats are from 2001, when the Muslim population was just a fraction of what it is now.
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CAREFULLY reading the blog at your link you can find, that the nice columns and piecharts contain his ESTIMATION based on official figures, but the METHOD of the estimation is his own secret.
More important: the by the timeframe 1985-1989 there has hardly been any muslims in Sweden, the absolut majority, ~90% were of finnish origin, the conclusion of the “estimation” must be that the rapists were the finns.
And today the finns behave, and their role is taken over by muslims?
Really???
The lack of official statistics about forigners crime is not because of embarresment, but the “political correctness”. It only serves the politicians comfort and often backfires, like in this case, giving more fuel to speculations “estimations”, conspiracy theories etc.
So ask again, why am I not alarmed of the (false) statistics?
Maybe because if we are found liers in this case (and maybe others, I only reacted to this), then we scare off decent people from our true cause?
LX says
For those of you, who wants to UNDERSTAND, not just put a lot of rubbish here.
Yesterdays news from the largest newspaper in Sweden:
http://www.dn.se/nyheter/sverige/praktikant-forsokte-valdta-barn-pa-forskola/
In English:
Two girls, five and six years old, were subjected to attempted rape at a nursery school in Malmö in August last year. Now sentenced a 15 year old boy to juvenile detention and youth service for attempted rape of a child. The boy was an intern at the preschool during the summer.
The girls have told that the intern showed his genitals in the bathroom and asked them to touch it in different ways. The convicted boy denies the offense and claims that the girls have made up the event. Malmö district court found the girls’ relatively detailed narratives as reliable, local media reported.
The boy must pay damages of 100,000 kronor to the girls. Summer internship was mediated via a project in the city of Malmö.
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As I said earlier, the term “rape” is not the same in Sweden as what you use elswhere! I don´t know what is the truth in this story, I don´t know the origin of the perpetrator, and it doesn´t matter in this context.
The point is, in the Swedish legal terms basically everything is “rape” there mutuality can not be proved. Yes, if you can´t prove that a sexual act was in consense, you can always be reported for “rape”. And it is the accused who has to prove that they acted in consesus. Do you think it´s a joke???
Then read the Assange case again!
Or read here and get help with google translation:
http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexualbrott_i_Sverige#Brottsbalken_skrivning_om_v.C3.A5ldt.C3.A4kt
Also to understand: being reported and CONVICTED (proven) is not the same at all in Sweden. You see some 6000 reported “rape” last year, but only 220 convicted!
Now compare THAT with your countries, US, UK or others, and you´ll see that THERE IS NO RAPE EPIDEMI IN SWEDEN, committed by locals or immingrants!
Period
LX says
You present numbers that you read in a blog that claims numbers, that has no references just generally stating that they come from the Swedish Criminal Prevention Council. No quoting, no links, no pointing to where he found them.
There is absoluetly no controllable source to these figures.
You see that, I see that, anybody can see that.
That makes you to a lier.
Calling me “islamist” makes you an idiot. You and your kind makes the authorities in Sweden to silence all debate, all discussions about muslims and their impact on the society.
LX says
Ross A Lloyd
April 6, 2014 at 9:34 pm said:
Dear Muslim Prick LX….. blah …blah….blah….
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I don’t go into a competition on calling names. But I call you an idiot, which is a statement, proven by your idiocy comparable to as if you call a negro to a Ku-Klux-Klan member.
That makes you an idiot.
As for your “sources”, I looked them all up, also the links and references in those sources.
And I found NOTHING, there is absolutely no official or inofficial but controllable source to your claims. NONE AT ALL.
All “sources” are just circular references, one article point to an other, that point to a third, which points to the first one. All of them claim that the numbers are coming from the BRÅ (the Swedish Criminal Prevention Council) but the alleged numbers are not presented. The figures which are actually presented don’t support the claims.You’re keeping on claiming unfounded nonsense.
That makes you an idiot. Again.
You, living somewhere I don’t know where but not in Sweden telling me IN SWEDEN how things are here:
Makes you an idiot. AGAIN.
Your stories about the Australian woman and the one murdered in the Sheraton garage presented as “evidence” whether there is a rape wave in Sweden:
Makes you an idiot. AGAIN.
As about Malmö, there I actually lived a few years some 30 years back, yes, there are areas with mainly immigrants, mostly muslim immigrants, there I as a MALE wouldn’t go in just to take a walk there. And I’m not scared easily. And in this areas even the police needs massive backups to go in. Also in Stockholm you can find these segregated areas. Still they are much calmer than what I’ve seen in Manchester and Liverpool the last years.
So yes, there are plenty of problems here, also with immigrants, and yes with muslims, and yes they take too much space and yes, they are violent idiots, most of them, and yes THEY SHOULD fit into Sweden and not Sweden should try to fit for their demands. It’s all true.
What isn’t, is that by making up false claims and accusations we can gain a political will to limit their immigration or force them to fit in or leave if they don’t.
What we see in all West-European countries is that by this kind of Nazi rhetoric we just wake sympathy for the muslims and/or antipathy for us.
We don’t need to make up false argument against muslimization of Europe, there are plenty of true ones.