Note also how fervently the unhijabbed host expresses her desire that the fullness of Sharia be implemented, “alcohol banned, and the cabarets..shut down. I am a Muslim and, therefore, I must implement Allah’s shari’a.” Will Muslim leaders in the West jet over to Cairo and explain to Riham Said that there is a multiplicity of understandings of Sharia, and that she can be a pious Muslim without wanting alcohol banned and caberets shut down? Or is that kind of claim only for Western consumption?
“Egyptian TV Host Kicks Guest out of Studio for Expressing Controversial Ideas on Religion,” MEMRI, May 13, 2014:
Following are excerpts from an interview Egyptian TV host Riham Said held with Salafist-turned-skeptic Dr. Noha, which aired on Al-Nahar TV, on May 13, 2014:
Riham Said: You do not usually wear a hijab, right?
Dr. Noha (wearing a full face veil, with only her eyes exposed): No, I don’t.
Riham Said: So why did you put one on?
Dr. Noha: I did so to conceal my identity. I fear for my life. I don’t want to be killed like Farag Foda. Also, I wouldn’t want to offend my family, who are very religious. I don’t want to hurt their feelings. They get upset when I talk about religion.
Riham Said: Egypt in its entirety is upset now.
Dr. Noha: On the contrary. I do it for Egypt’s sake.
[…]
I am not an atheist.
Riham Said: But you say that the Koran isn’t for real.
Dr. Noha: I say that Muhammad wrote the Koran…
Riham Said: You don’t believe that our Prophet Muhammad is Allah’s messenger?
Dr. Noha :I believe that he was a genius. He was a reformer, a philosopher, a military commander, and a great man. But it was he who wrote the Koran. There is no such thing as divine revelation and there was no Gabriel. This is the most important thing I wanted to say today.
Riham Said: So you say that Muhammad was not Allah’s messenger?
Dr. Noha: I’m telling you that there is no such thing as divine revelation…
Riham Said: I did not ask you about divine revelation. I wanted to know if you claim that the Prophet Muhammad is not Allah’s messenger.
Dr. Noha: Of course not. How could he possibly be a messenger without divine revelation?
Riham Said: How did you come up with that?
Dr. Noha: Because there was no Gabriel. It was Gabriel who supposedly delivered Allah’s word to humans. Since Gabriel himself is a myth, there can be no…
Riham Said: How did you decide he is a myth?
Dr. Noha: I have no proof he ever existed.
[…]
Riham Said: I say that the Prophet Muhammad is Allah’s messenger!
Dr. Noha: Fine.
Riham Said: I believe in every single word and letter of the Koran.
Dr. Noha: OK, but how are you different [from the Islamists].
Riham Said: How am I different?
Dr. Noha: The difference between the Islamists and you, Riham, is that the Islamists strive to implement every detail…
Riham Said: I want to implement every detail of Allah’s shari’a, but I am against killing people who do not wish to implement it. I hope Allah’s shari’a will be implemented everywhere, alcohol banned, and the cabarets will be shut down. I am a Muslim and, therefore, I must implement Allah’s shari’a.
Dr. Noha: Do you support chopping off a thief’s hand?Riham Said: Absolutely.
Dr. Noha: Really?!
Riham Said: Of course.
Dr. Noha: Honestly, this is inhumane.
Riham Said: A thief’s hand should be cut off, and an adulteress should be stoned to death.
Dr. Noha: This is really inhumane.Riham Said: If we implement Islam in everything, no [bad] things will happen.
Dr. Noha: How can you say that?! How do you defend myths?
Riham Said: You have the right to speak your mind, but you have no right to call it a myth.
Dr. Noha: A myth it is!
Riham Said: That’s your opinion.
[…]
You seriously do not believe that God exists?
Dr. Noha: I do believe.
Riham Said: So why don’t you pray to him?
Dr. Noha: Because He doesn’t respond to prayer.
Riham Said: How can you believe in Him without praying to Him?
Dr. Noha: Because he never responds.
Riham Said: How come?
Dr. Noha: That’s the way He is. I prayed a lot and He never answered.
Riham Said: Why should He respond when you talk like that?!
Dr. Noha: He didn’t respond back in the day when I was a Salafi woman, wearing a niqab.
Riham Said: Obviously you were impure of heart…
Dr. Noha: No, my heart was impeccable.
Riham Said: He responds to what I ask him. What do you have to say about that?!
Dr. Noha: He does not respond. This is merely…
Riham Said: Can it be coincidence that I get exactly what I ask for.
Dr. Noha: Sometimes you get it and sometimes you don’t.
Riham Said: No, he gives me whatever I ask for.
Dr. Noha: If you asked for a million pounds, I’m sure you won’t get it…
Riham Said: Yes, I will.
Dr. Noha: No, you won’t
Riham Said: I swear to God I will.
[…]
How can you talk about ignorance when…
Dr. Noha: It is you who are ignorant.
Riham Said: Me? Ignorant? Thank you very much.
Dr. Noha: Yes, you are.
Riham Said: I’m as ignorant as all of Egypt and the Arab world. If saying that the Prophet Muhammad was Allah’s messenger constitutes ignorance, I am proud to be an ignoramus.
Dr. Noha: If you keep insulting me, I will get up and leave.
Riham Said: Get out of here.
Dr. Noha: What?!
Riham Said: Get out of here.
Dr. Noha gets up from her seat, collects her belongings and starts to remove her microphone
Riham Said: Remove the microphone outside. Remove the microphone outside.
Dr. Noha: Lower your voice when you speak to me.
Riham Said: Remove the microphone outside.
Dr. Noha: You cannot talk like that to me. I am Dr. Noha. Behave yourself.
Riham Said: Remove the microphone outside. People, take her out of here. Go ahead.
Dr. Noha: I regret coming to talk with someone like you.
Riham Said: It is I who have wasted my time talking to a crazy woman.
Salah says
From the article:
Dr. Noha: Because there was no Gabriel. It was Gabriel who supposedly delivered Allah’s word to humans. Since Gabriel himself is a myth, there can be no…
Riham Said: How did you decide he is a myth?
Dr. Noha: I have no proof he ever existed.
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Wrong answer.
Here’s the right one, from the great Islamic scholar, Al-Qurtubi:
Al-Qurtubi (arabic) 37/18 / تفسير القرطبي
فقال الأبيض ، و هو صاحب الأنبياء ، و هو الذي قصد النبي .. في صورة جبريل
Translation:
Al-Abyad (a demon) is the friend of the prophets and he is the one who went to the Prophet (pbuh) in the form of Gabriel (the angel)
http://crossmuslims.blogspot.com/2011/10/muhammad-and-satan_24.html
mortimer says
The flying fairy Gabriel was actually a demon, according to Islamic sources!
In a court of law, hearsay is irrelevant and excluded. But Mohammed’s testimony is DOUBLE HEARSAY! Mohammed heard from Gabriel who heard from Allah! WHO IS ALLAH? WHO IS GABRIEL?
The Koran itself confirms that Mohammed made up the Koran…he received the words ‘IN HIS HEART’. There is no evidence of any kind that the words were from anywhere but from his UNCONSCIOUS MIND. None whatsoever.
Brian Hoff says
I see you mock religion. Islam make more sence than Christian which believe in 3 Gods. One God become 3 God make no sence at all.
Boaz says
No, we mock ISLAM, because it is evil, idiotic and seeks our doom, all written by a violent psychopath (and his friends) who murdered, lied, stole and raped little girls, ALL in the name of Satan.
Guy Macher says
Christians believe in one God. You Mohameddans and dhimmis should read more.
Christopher says
You Christians should listen to this woman. She is correct. Your ARROGANCE in thinking you know the Bible was divinely inspired… that you just KNOW…
I can tell you one thing:
If this life is about growing as a soul for whatever may follow, accepting ANY religion is a FAIL
I hope there is an afterlife so you will come to realize it.
All power to this wonderful, brave woman! AGNOSTICISM IS THE ONLY SANE POSITION TO HOLD REGARDING GOD
sinantara says
Islam says, nothing is holy but Allah. And Muhammad is just a man. A man of whom Allah says, was it not for you, Muhammad, I would not have created earth and heaven: Hadith 1: al-Hakim in his Mustadrak, Baihaqi in Dalail an-Nubuwah, Tabarani in his Kabeer, Abu Na’eem in his Hilya and ibn Asakir in Tarikh Damishq report from Sayyiduna Ameer al-Mu’mineen ‘Umar ibn al-Khattab Farooq al-A’dham (radiyallahu ta’ala anhu) that:
The Prophet of Allah (sallallahu ‘alaihi wasallam) said: “Allah said: When Adam made the mistake, he asked: O Allah! I ask you for the sake of Muhammad to forgive me. Allah said: O Adam! How do you recognise Muhammad when I have not yet created him? Adam said: O Allah! When you created me and blew into me the spirit, I lifted my head and saw written on the ‘Arsh ‘La ilaaha illallah Muhammadur rasoolullah’. So, I got to know that you would only join your name with him who is most beloved to you. Allah said: O Adam! You have spoken the truth. Indeed Muhammad is more beloved to me than anything and when you asked me for his sake, I pardoned you. If Muhammad was not in existence, I would not have created you” (Also from Imam Subki in Shifa as-Siqam and Shihab in Naseem). We have to understand this to understand the fury of Muslims if the Prophet is insulted.
Then the quran is uncreated: meaning, it has co existed with God and Muhammad as an concept has been as eternal because his reason to be is ib the Quran, creation is a act of love of God for Muhammad.
Now I don’t want to say that Muh is God’s son, he is just adored as such, and I don’t want to say that an uncreated quran is somehow on par with God, and I don’t want to say that it looks a little bit like a Trinity.. I am not an ulama. I just….
Boaz says
And we have this from a supposedly monotheistic “religion”….
Sahih Muslim, Prayer, Hadith Number 798-Book 4
Ibn ‘Abbas reported: The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) used to teach us tashahbud just as he used to teach us a Sura of the Qur’an, and he would say: All services rendered by words, acts of worship and all good things are due to Allah. PEACE BE UPON YOU O PROPHET and Allah’s mercy and blessings. Peace be upon us and upon Allah’s upright servants. I testify that there is no god but Allah, and I testify that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah. In the narration of Ibn Rumb (the words are): “As he would teach us the Qur’an.”
Here Muhammad commands Muslims to address him in prayers! SHIRK!!
And this….
“It is not for a believing man or a believing woman, when Allah and His Messenger have decided a matter, that they should [thereafter] have any choice about their affair. And whoever disobeys Allah and His Messenger has certainly strayed into clear error.” – 33:36
Muhammad seems to be equal footing with Satanallah. Hmmm.
And again….
“And We did not send any messenger except to be obeyed by permission of Allah . And if, when they wronged themselves, they had come to you, [O Muhammad], and asked forgiveness of Allah and the Messenger had asked forgiveness for them, they would have found Allah Accepting of repentance and Merciful.” – 4:64
Muhammad is an intercessor for Satanallah??
Also….
“Those who follow the Messenger, the unlettered prophet, whom they find written in what they have of the Torah and the Gospel, who enjoins upon them what is right and forbids them what is wrong and makes lawful for them the good things and prohibits for them the evil and relieves them of their burden and the shackles which were upon them. So they who have believed in him, honored him, supported him and followed the LIGHT which was sent down with him – it is those who will be the successful.” – 7:157
Muhammad can forbid, makes laws, prohibits and is honored and believed in?!?! What happened to ONLY ONE GOD????
What about that light?
“No wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light.” – 2 Corinthians 11:14
The plot thickens.
Bezelel says
@brian hoff, What part of praying to that idol in mecca seems like a good idea?
kathykounselor says
The great majority of the outcry v. Islam is not that their faith-claims are ‘unfounded’. ALL faith claims are just that, ‘faith’. I cannot prove to you that the Blessed Trinity exists; that Christ was/is the Son of God. These are articles of faith.
Why we see such horror and outcry v. Islam is because, ‘By their fruits shall ye know them’. The PRACTICE of Islam-whether it’s by the bloodthirsty murderers/rapists/pedophiles who ‘practice Islam’, or the ‘moderates’ who dare not speak one word against the atrocities of the jihadists-the religion is clearly foul.
I’d have no concerns whatever about Islam if they confined their ‘faith’ to their own countries/’culture’. The USA can’t right every wrong in the world. Why we all speak as we do about Islam is because daily, 24/7, we see sociopathic acts committed by Muslims, not confined to their own [miserable] countries, but instead visited on innocents all over the world who don’t want to ‘submit’ to them.
Gigi says
First of all, prophet mohammad p.b.u.h. Was illiterate (he don’t know how to write). Secondly, the Jewish Torah, the bible, and even Hindu scripture, all explain the coming of prophet mohammad p.b.u.h. With this proof he is a prophet and since he is a prophet the one who deliver the message of God to mohammad p.b.u.h isn’t a demon but he was a angle name Gabriel. If you don’t believe me go and look at what ever holy book you read, assuming you really read any books. One more thing, don’t criticize anyone religion without reading their scripture.
Angemon says
Gigi posted:
“First of all, prophet mohammad p.b.u.h. Was illiterate (he don’t know how to write).”
He didn’t know how to write, you say?
Bukhari :: Book 7 :: Volume 70 :: Hadith 573
Narrated Ibn ‘Abbas:
When Allah’s Apostle was on his death-bed and in the house there were some people among whom was ‘Umar bin Al-Khattab, the Prophet said, “Come, let me write for you a statement after which you will not go astray.” ‘Umar said, “The Prophet is seriously ill and you have the Qur’an; so the Book of Allah is enough for us.” The people present in the house differed and quarrelled. Some said “Go near so that the Prophet may write for you a statement after which you will not go astray,” while the others said as Umar said. When they caused a hue and cry before the Prophet, Allah’s Apostle said, “Go away!” Narrated ‘Ubaidullah: Ibn ‘Abbas used to say, “It was very unfortunate that Allah’s Apostle was prevented from writing that statement for them because of their disagreement and noise.”
Sahih Muslim Book : 19 Hadith No: 4382
Subject : Jihad And Expedition (Kitab Al-Jihad Wal-Siyar)
It has been narrated on the authority of Anas that the Prophet of Allah (may peace be upon him) wrote to Chosroes (King of Persia), Caesar (Emperor of Rome), Negus (King of Abyssinia) and every (other) despot inviting them to Allah, the Exalted. And this Negus was not the one for whom the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) had said the funeral prayers.
Muhammad’s alleged illiteracy is a fabrication to ascribe him a miracle.
“Secondly, the Jewish Torah, the bible, and even Hindu scripture, all explain the coming of prophet mohammad”
Point out where in each of them muhammad is prophesied.
“With this proof he is a prophet and since he is a prophet the one who deliver the message of God to mohammad p.b.u.h isn’t a demon but he was a angle name Gabriel.”
That’s a fine example of circular logic. “Well, he’s a prophet, and sinc ehe’s a prophet then the message comes from god”.
BTW, i know of acute, right, obtuse, straight, reflex and complete angles, but i never heard of a gabriel angle.
“If you don’t believe me go and look at what ever holy book you read, assuming you really read any books.”
Actually, that’s not how things work. You claim that muhammad was prophesied in the torah, bible and even in hindu scriptures. If that’s the case all you have to do is to point out where in the torah, bible and hindu texts he’s allegedly prophesied. I mean, you DID read all of those books and checked with jewish, christian and hindu clerics to confirm that for yourself, didn’t you? You’re not parroting info you got from some dawah peddler, are you?
“One more thing, don’t criticize anyone religion without reading their scripture.”
Well then, islam is NOT a religion but a totalitarian political movement disguised as a religion so everyone here can criticize it, going by your standards.
voegelinian says
What’s the Arabic word for “demon” used by al-Qurtubi?
King of Jerusalem says
The Arabic word/name for demon is al-Abyad (الأبيض) as shown in the translation above. The individual letters (right to left) are: ا لأ ب ي ض . The second letter from the right لأ is a “ligature” combining the letters lam and alif with a diacritic known as a hamzah.
voegelinian says
The text as translated then is redundant, when it says:
“By the demon called Al-Abyad…”
Furthermore, the transated text has, immediately after that, “…(the White One)…” implying that al-Abyad means “the White One”.
See the video provided by Salah above, at about the 3:30 forward:
http://crossmuslims.blogspot.com/2011/10/muhammad-and-satan_24.html
gravenimage says
Voegalinian is right—”Al Abyad” means “the white one”. Here’s Wadi Al-Abyad in Oman, which is a reference to the Wadi’s white carbonite rocks:
http://www.omantripper.com/wadi-al-abyad/
Here’s what Al-Qurtubi had to say:
“Al-Abyad (a demon) is the friend of the prophets and he is the one who went to the Prophet (pbuh) in the form of Gabriel (the angel)”
“A demon” is, of course, an editorial insertion, and seems to describe Al-Abyad [the white one] as a demon—not to say that Al-Abyad *translates* as “demon”.
Actually, Al Qurtubi’s quote has always seemed rather equivocal to me.
Certainly, if you look at the 13th-century Al Qurtubi, he was an orthodox Muslim of the Maliki school—anything but a critic of Islam.
He also seemed to be somewhat obsessed with the idea of possession by demons and DJinn, and condemned people who claimed that such cases were the result of natural causes.
Salah says
You’re right, voegelinian. Al Abyad means the White One.
The word for demon is : Al Shaytan الشيطان . It’s not mentioned in this quote from al-Qurtubi.
Here’s another quote from the same passage where you’ll find both “demon” and “al-abyad” in the same sentence:
Al-Qurtubi (arabic) 242/19 / تفسير القرطبي
يريد بالشيطان الأبيض الذى كان يأتى النبي .. يريد أن يفتنه
Translation:
By the demon called Al-Abyad (the White One), he was referring to the one that used to come to the Prophet (pbuh) in the form of Gabriel (the angel) wanting to seduce him.
Boaz says
Salah, does “the white one” allude to the devil disguising himself as an angel of light ie white light?
I read the page on your site but I’m missing the point as to why al-Qurtubi would make such an admission, especially since he was a Muslim.
Cheers.
Salah says
@Boaz
“..why al-Qurtubi would make such an admission..”
Al-Qurtubi didn’t intend it to be an admission that Gabriel was a demon called Al-Abyad (the White One). He was only trying to prove that even prophets have their own demons, their moments of weakness and temptation, and that the one who used to seduce Muhammad by appearing to him as an angel was called Al-Abyad.
By doing so, Al-Qurtubi simply admits that Muhammad, the “great prophet”, was unable to differentiate between an angel and a demon.
Furthermore, we know that Muhammad admittedly received a message from Satan and delivered it to the people as if it were from God (the Satanic Verses episode.)
We read in “The Life of Muhammad” that Gabriel had to rebuke Muhammad for this “mistake”:
“Then Gabriel came to the apostle and said, ‘What have you done, Muhammad? you have read to these people something I did not bring you from God..”
Conclusion: No reasonable person should trust such a “prophet”.
voegelinian says
Thanks Salah. What is the Arabic word for “demon” used there?
voegelinian says
Boaz, that was my thought too. That epithet “the White One” does have echoes reminiscent of the Lucifer myth (note: I don’t consider “myth” to be automatically false, as our modern culture assumes).
voegelinian says
Salah, I’m kind of confused. In English, the word “demon” is a general category, and there can be many demons. But I thought that Shaytan was a single (evil) personage, like the Judaeo-Christian Satan. To translate that as implying that al-Abyad was simple one “demon” among many would imply that there can be multiple “Shaytans”.
I’m also confused by the wording you have on your video where you are quoting al-Qortoby:
“By the demon called Al-Abyad (the White One), he was referring to the one that used to come to the Prophet…”
Who is this “he” who was “referring to”?
Salah says
@voegelinian
Demon = Shaytan = شيطان
Demons = Shayateen = شياطين
Satan = Al-Shaytan (*the* demon) = الشيطان
This implies that one of these many demons has a name: Al-Abyad.
As to your question:
Who is this “he” who was “referring to”?
Al-Qurtubi was probably analysing and quoting another Muslim scholar. I’ll need to read the whole conversation again to find out his name. I honestly don’t feel like doing it right now. If it’s so important to you I promise to do it later and get back to you, probably on another thread. Sorry about that.
voegelinian says
Thanks Salah, that clears up a lot. No need to look up the “he” mentioned by Qortobi.
By the way, in the history of Western mythology/theology, in Greek (and later Graeco-Roman) culture prior to the advent of Christianity, the word “demon” (from the Greek, daimon) was ambiguous — sometimes bad, sometimes good. The good spirit that Socrates experienced, for example, as a divine part of his love of wisdom, he called his “daimon”. It was only later, by the first century B.C./A.D. that “demon” came to have thoroughly negative and evil connotations.
Also, it seems pretty evident that the Arabic al-Shaytan is derived from the Greek, Satanas (which in turn derived from the Hebrew, Satan). The Koran, as you probably know, seems to be replete with loan-words or borrowings from Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek.
Boaz says
Thank you, Salah. Hopefully your efforts in exposing the awful truth of Islam is saving souls. I’ve always said that Muslims are so close, yet so far away from God-fervent but mislead. God bless you.
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@vogelinian-In reply to me….”(note: I don’t consider “myth” to be automatically false, as our modern culture assumes).”
Thank you for your respectful clarification. I pray that your mind remains open. God bless you.
“You will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart.” – Jeremiah 29:13
Bezelel says
I finally had a chance to check out your blog site, very good, and bookmarked.
Boaz says
Love yer work, Salah. Is CrossMuslims your site or do you just reference it? Either way, it’s great ammo & enlightenment.
Salah says
Thank you, Boaz. Yes, it’s my site.
bill says
The great Islamic scholar is still only a man and his devotion to Islam is still delusional. This kind of debate is just as absurd as the Christian Bishops debating
how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. The fact is there are no angels and nobody has ever seen one. Only in legends do they appear.
rab says
But mo’ was illeraterate. He couldn’t read or write anything?
But the koran was assembled 7-9 years after mo’s death, by what people remembered?
One was the collection of his sayings.
One was a collection of his deeds.
What did he ever do that wasn’t humanly possible?
These are easy answers that everybody knows.
However, if it is perfect, uncorruptable and beyond question…….
That’s why any questions about pislam, are followed by threats and violence…
Boaz says
@Rab-Sahih Bukhari Volume 4, Book 56, Number 814:
Narrated Anas:
There was a Christian who embraced Islam and read Surat-al-Baqara and Al-Imran, and he used to write (the revelations) for the Prophet. Later on he returned to Christianity again and he used to say: “Muhammad knows nothing but what I have written for him.”
duh_swami says
No Gabriel? I’m crushed. Does that mean there are no jinn either?
Joseph says
No tonic either I’m afraid.
jihad3tracker says
Well said, Joseph !!!
Now, excuse me — time for a toast to Western profligacy — but first I must find the juniper infusion (which I hide from Aunt Martha).
Angemon says
No, jinn exist, as attested by the fatwas rulling out marriage between men and jinns. The ummah would not agree on something that’s not true.
Reality Check says
This woman proved beyond all doubt something I have known for a long time – the greatest enemy of Islam is COMMON SENSE.
Reality Check says
This woman has proven beyond all doubt something I have known for a long time – the greatest and deadliest enemy of Islam is COMMON SENSE.
Champ ✿ says
LOL!! …good one 😀
jewdog says
I’m glad that Egypt has some independent thinkers. The millions of people who demonstrated against Morsi and the MB was the real Arab Spring.
Wellington says
May that free-thinking woman remain safe. Also, quite ironic that the free-thinker was wearing the veil and the deluded believer was not. I know it was for safety’s sake, but the irony is still there.
voegelinian says
It’s not only an irony; but also an indication that Muslims who seem to be moderate may well not be (such as the “millions” of “anti-Morsi” Egyptians).
William says
It is the Mohammedan fanatic, and not the other woman, who is crazy. She, the Mohammedaness, is a walking and talking contradiction. In one sentence she says she is against killing those who don’t wish to implement Sharia and in a subsequent sentence that she is for stoning to death an adulteress. Mohammedanism seems to do something to the mind of its possessor that makes it, the mind, disjointed.
mark says
Realize, however, that the extremist woman may be contending for Islam under duress. She seems kind of westernized in spite of her speech.
voegelinian says
Yes, let’s try to figure out ways to exculpate Muslims from what they say. It’s bad enough when JWers naively believe various types of moderates (Egyptian “anti-Morsi”ites, Iranian “People”); but when they start doing yoga pretzels to figure out ways in which the demonstrable fanatics are not “really” fanatics, that’s too much to bear.
Walter Sieruk says
The title of the above article says it all. The title is “Egypt: women kicked off TV show for expressing skepticism about Islam.” In other words, this is further proof that the foundations and doctrines of islam are so weak the this religion can’t stand up to or hold up to anykind of criticism what so ever.
mortimer says
DISSOCIATION! The barbarian who is breaking Sharia by dying her hair, wearing makeup and not covering up…she lectures about handchopping! This a perfect example of Stockholm syndrome!
Champ ✿ says
The ugly truth about islam is too hot for this woman to handle …
Yeah facing the ugly truth is far better than defending and living a LIE: islam.
Edward Cline says
This is VERY confusing. Dr. Noha look and dresses like a fashion model whom I wouldn’t mind asking out for a date, yet she’s a dyed-in-the-wool Muslim (I wouldn’t want to date her now!)???? And the veiled guest is a skeptic, yet swallows the whole Mohammad story???? Muslims are a very confused species of humanity. Perhaps Mr. Spencer has an explanation for the jarring contradictions evident in the video.
voegelinian says
And their confused schizophrenia is dangerous for us — particularly when we do yoga pretzels trying to figure out which Muslims are harmless and which are dangerous. That should not be our responsibility; and furthermore, it is reckless to presume that we can do it, when our uncertainty translated into policy could prove disastrously deadly to our society. No, the safety of our society is our #1 priority, not saving Muslims (nor trying to feel good about ourselves in our ethical narcissism) through playing Muslim Roulette.
PJG says
Dr Noha is the veiled one, the guest.
dumbledoresarmy says
It’s the other way around.
Dr Noha is the sceptic: she wears the face veil NOT for “modesty” but in order to protect her face from being seen by the sharia assassins. Who knows what happened to her once she got out of that studio? The sharia assassins will be after her, because she basically said, well, she believes in god but doesn’t believe he listens to her, and she believes mohammed – a mere man, however formidable – wrote the Quran off his own bat. She denies any divine/ angelic “inspiration” for the Quran, etc.
The “blondinka” (as Hugh Fitzgerald dubbed her, over at NER) – the *host* of the show, the one who has the hysterical meltdown – is the out-and-out Mohammedan.
voegelinian says
Noha admires Mohammed. Until she works out her tortured, schizophrenic Stockholm Syndrome, she is of no use to us in our #1 priority, protecting our society from Mohammedans.
Champ says
Dr. Noha :I believe that he was a genius. He was a reformer, a philosopher, a military commander, and a great man.
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A GREAT MAN? A GENIUS?
No, muhammad (perdition be upon him) was NOT a “great man” or a “genius”, but was probably the most deluded criminal that ever lived! I think that *both* women are off their rocker.
Edward Cline says
This is true. Big Mo was an illiterate thug and bandit, and also a killer, rapist, and pedophile. Perhaps his visions (assuming the creature even existed, see Mr. Spencer’s book, “Did Mohammad Exist?”) were caused by dates spiked by his mischievous prankster warriors. Yes, both women are certifiably “out to lunch.” But, hey, Saul Alinsky regarded Frank Nitti and Al Capone as “philosophers ” and “reformers” and “great men.”
Boaz says
@Edward Cline-True about Saul “thank you Satan” Alinsky -Obama Bin Kenya’s mentor-and good friend of St Cankles Clinton.
Birds of a feather….
eib says
Mohammed was a genius . . . of the profane and evil.
A man from whom nothing good could come.
Perhaps he was the outcast Cain re-arrived from exile, just to despise the holy sacrifice of Christ yet more.
Mirren10 says
”No, muhammad (perdition be upon him) was NOT a “great man” or a “genius”, but was probably the most deluded criminal that ever lived! I think that *both* women are off their rocker.”
Spot on, Champ.
Georgios says
This interview being performed in mostly-sharia Egypt, the host had no choice but to declare herself to be an obediant muslim, or she would loose her job and maybe worse. Also, I fear the Dr. is in great danger for being outspoken right now. Hopefully, she survives.
Mirren10 says
”This interview being performed in mostly-sharia Egypt, the host had no choice but to declare herself to be an obediant muslim, or she would loose her job and maybe worse”
Your comment doesn’t make any sense to me.
Dr. Noha, whilst still deluded about the character of mohammed, ( as Champ points out), was actually risking far more by rejecting sharia and ‘islamists’ (sigh) and appearing on telly to say so.
This host invited Noha on her programme, and was clearly aware of the gist of what she would say.
Why do you think she ”had no choice but to declare herself to be an obediant muslim, or she would loose her job and maybe worse” ?
She could have simply disagreed with her guest, without ranting hysterically about the wonders of sharia, and then kicking Noha out of the studio. A bit OTT !
Edward Cline says
Even if Dr. Noha were putting on an act to save her job (and her skin, after all, she’s “uncovered” and per Muslims’ repeated assertions she’s “easy meat for rape), she more or less threw her guest under the bus for that woman claiming she was skeptical of some of Islam’s foundational tenets.
dumbledoresarmy says
Dr Noha is the *guest* – the *sceptic*.
The blonde female is Riham Said – the host of the show.
Read the transcript again, *carefully*, and watch the clip again, *carefully*.
This is riveting tv – because the woman with the veiled face – no longer veiled to signify the sharia, but veiled to *protect her from being recognised in the street and killed* – is in essence publicly declaring herself an *apostate*.
voegelinian says
If we, the West, are going to get through this century with a minimum of misery and mayhem caused by metastasizing Mohammedans, we are going to have to learn to stop this neo-Wilsonian nonsense, this impulse to want to save Muslim victims in various molting stages of disengagement from their mass psychosis. Our first priority should be the safety of our societies. It should not be our Western Man’s Burden to try to save Muslims from their Islam.
mariam rove says
this woman is a stealth jihadists, but in lala land. m
Angemon says
“Riham Said: If we implement Islam in everything, no [bad] things will happen.”
Tell that to muhammad and the rightly guided caliphs. How did they die? What about the apostasy wars? The only explanation, at least going by Riham’s logic, is that neither muhammad nor the rightly guided caliphs implemented islam in everything.
“Riham Said: He[God] responds to what I ask him. What do you have to say about that?!
Dr. Noha: He does not respond. This is merely…
Riham Said: Can it be coincidence that I get exactly what I ask for.
Dr. Noha: Sometimes you get it and sometimes you don’t.
Riham Said: No, he gives me whatever I ask for.
Dr. Noha: If you asked for a million pounds, I’m sure you won’t get it…
Riham Said: Yes, I will.
Dr. Noha: No, you won’t
Riham Said: I swear to God I will.”
This is a PERFECT example of the islamic childish mentality. Riham is defending her point of view in a way similar to a 3-year-old throwing a tantrum. Classical islamic behaviour: reply at everything by shouting and ranting, it doesn’t matter what you say, as long you look mad enough the other side will eventually back down. Too bad Dr. Noha didn’t ask her to actually pray for the that million pounds or to have allah enable her to fly by flapping her arms and jumping off a building. Also, by Riham’s description, allah sounds more like her suggar daddy than her god 🙂
Bezelel says
Confucius said, a dog who chases his own tail will smell his own butt. I know that’s pretty bad but it is miles ahead of mo Ham ed.
Carmen Sporidis says
“But while he is in bed with one of them, the pious Muslim man is allowed to have his other wives around”.
The Muslim male are really disgusting, Porno show if he wish his other wifes can be around him. Only monkeys do so, not real man.
Chris says
As ever these comments descend into petty arguments about scriptural meaning. That is exactly the problem ! These arguments totally ignore the evidence. Why would anyone want to follow a God who advocates such evil actions as Islam ???
bill says
The weakness of Dr Noah’s argument is that she cannot relinquish her belief in ‘god’. She says she does not pray to ‘god’ as he never answers. This is universal to all religions. God never answers but they cannot take the logical step and admit that ‘he/she’ does not exist. What is the point of an all powerful omniscient god if ‘he/she’ never acknowledges his worshippers? Never even protects them from the forces that ‘he/she’ presumably created.
One thing which is very noticeable about religion is that ‘god’ gets the credit for the good things, eg. all my family/friends died but ‘god’ saved me, but is never blamed for the bad.
Boaz says
Atheists are irrational: Atheists want “God” taken out of the pledge of allegiance because it offends them. You don’t even believe God is real, HOW can He offend you? Who is more irrational? The person who believes in a God they don’t see? Or the person who’s offended by something they don’t believe in? – Brad Stine
But He gives more grace. Therefore it says, “God opposes the proud, but gives grace to the humble.” – James 4:6
You wouldn’t even know 1/100,000th of 1% of all knowledge, bill. Get over yourself.
“The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit.” – 1 Corinthians 2:14
Champ ✞ says
Great comment, Boaz!
And “Got Questions” adds this:
Question: “What is atheism?”
Answer: Atheism is the view that God does not exist. Atheism is not a new development. Psalm 14:1, written by David around 1000 B.C., mentions atheism: “The fool says in his heart, ‘There is no God.’” Recent statistics show an increasing number of people claiming to be atheists, up to 10 percent of people worldwide. So why are more and more people becoming atheists? Is atheism truly the logical position atheists claim it to be?
Much more here:
http://www.gotquestions.org/atheism.html
Boaz says
Thanks for the link, Champ. Christ held a mirror up to people’s twisted pathology but they didn’t like what they saw, preferred to live in apathy and denial, then killed Him. The Pharisees willingly denied His miracles, just as people that arrogantly demand that He “show Himself” would still not believe. Nothing has changed.
John 1:5, 3:19, Acts 26:18, 1 Cor 2:14, Jeremiah 29:13 are key verses if anyone wants to begin to comprehend the Gospel. The most important-I believe-is James 4:6, because until people humble themselves, they are doomed. Remember the greatest affront to God is spelled out quite clearly in Proverbs 6:16-19.
People will go to Hell blaming themselves, hence Christ mentioning several times “a great wailing and gnashing of teeth”. Eternity is along time to pay for your sins and I believe the door to Hell is locked from the inside. The Law convicts-God condemns. His infinite Holiness demands infinite Justice-it’s just that simple. Strangely, atheists make “moral” judgement of God’s “immorality” yet given the power of God and the impunity to act however they please, I sincerely doubt they would’ve taken sin upon themselves and gone to the Cross after being constantly mocked, derided and ignored.
There’d hardly be any people left….
Joe Crandall says
unless and until a significant percentage of people realize that it’s up to US, each of us, to declare what we believe in (and don’t believe in), and to join with others to create nations of our own, we will ALWAYS
joe crandall says
Let’s end the arguments once and for all – people believe what they WANT to believe and can’t be convinced otherwise until they WANT to be convinced. So what’s the answer? http://www.inations.com. Come and declare yourself – decide who you really are – take a stand – and start you OWN nation today!
Elisheva14 says
That is a very brave woman. It was a big step for mankind.
The Levite says
yeh sharia, cant wait……
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/sudan/10837365/Islamic-court-permits-pregnant-woman-to-give-birth-before-she-is-hanged.html
Fernando says
Oh My God she used common sense, she is the devil!! Kill her!..
Pinches pendejos.
gravenimage says
If we implement Islam in everything, no [bad] things will happen.
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What insanity. It is, instead, the very opposite—all Dar-al-Islam is a craphole—and the more Islamic any particular stretch of the Muslim world is, the worse it is.
Abel says
Just talked to a couple of “muslims” the other day. They were all younger than 35 and all of them told me they are not muslim anymore and that this is widespread here in the US. They also said practicing muslims refuse to admit that more and more young US muslims become atheist/agnostic/spiritual or (less often) Christian. They also told me that their mosques are barely attended by younger people (except for children who are forced to go there with their parents).
dumbledoresarmy says
Be careful of what you are told, mate. It *may* be that many young Muslims in the USA are becoming de facto apostates. There was, after all, the Rifqa Bary case (google it). The more of them do so, the better. And perhaps these acquaintances of yours are in that apostate/ about-to-apostasise category. How well do you know them? For how long have you known them?
But you should bear in mind that if they *do* publicly apostasise, and are known to have left Islam, whether for atheism, agnosticism, or Christianity, they still have to worry about the apostasy law of Islam; the rule that any person who leaves Islam, must be killed. That law is not a dead letter, not even within the West. In *Europe* many apostates, because of that Law, have had to flee from their families and communities, change their names and live in hiding, like defectors from the Mafia.
And there is something else you should think about. If all or most of the young Muslims within the West *are* drifting away, how come so many young Muslims in all the western countries are Getting Jihad and waltzing off to Syria?? Usually to fight in the ranks of the most red-hot jihad gangs of all?
And in the UK, such polls as have been taken have indicated that the second and third generation of British-born young Muslims actually include a *higher* percentage of sharia-advocates than one finds among their parents. I don’t know whether anyone’s undertaken similar polls in the USA.
So although your acquaintance have told you what you’d like to hear, I’d be wary of accepting it as truth unless I got a lot more evidence to back it up.
Demon says
Demon
I have come across this website by accident and I am surprised how people come back and write meaningless things time and time again.
Are you guys paid to write in this website?
I do not see why anyone with the right frame of mind would spend his/her time and write such useless stuff. This argument existed since humans existed on this earth.
If Islam or Christianity is wrong what about those worship elephants, monkeys or Bronze statues?
Can you see what I am talking about?
dumbledoresarmy says
Are you a mohammedan dementor attempting a spot of well-poisoning?
If not, here is my reply.
1/ None of the commenters in this forum is paid to write here . ROFLMAO.
The regulars who read and comment here do so because we aim to learn more and to share information with each other and the many who read but do not post. Sometimes we also try to build morale among the discouraged, and to suggest ideas for the Resistance against Jihad.
We have – not only thanks to Mr Spencer and this website, but thanks to much else besides – become aware of a great danger, an enemy that threatens our society and all non-Muslim societies and that has in fact threatened – and often, destroyed – other societies throughout the past 1400 years. Islam. The Ummah, or Mohammedan Mob, the Empire of Islam. We hope that others will also become aware, enough of them that our countries may do what they need to do, in time to defend themselves effectively against the worldwide Jihad.
2/ This discussion is not taking place in a vacuum. The Jihad – the campaign waged by the Ummah, with a view to seizing power over the entire planet and imposing the horror of institutionalised injustice and cruelty that is the sharia of Islam – proceeds (fuelled by trillions of petrodollars) even as we read and type here.
Whether one thinks Islam or any other faith true or false, is irrelevant. What does matter is that orthodox Muslims believe their religion requires them to make war upon the entire non-Muslim world, forever, by hook or by crook, fair means and foul, until everybody in it is a Muslim, a near-slave dhimmi, or…DEAD. And many, many, many of them are acting upon that belief.
Read Conor Cruise O’Brien, and get a clue. This thing is real. The jihad, which fell somewhat into abeyance during a period of weakness in the Muslim world between the late 19th and mid-20th centuries, is back. Roaring back, funded by oil money.
http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_direct_link.cfm/blog_id/45600
Thursday, 10 January 2013
A Blast From the Past: Conor Cruise O’Brien, in 1995, Discussing the Jihad in Algeria
Excerpt:
“…The Prophet Mohamed did not offer his followers a chance to live in harmony with their neighbours. He taught them to fight their neighbours, if they were unbelievers, and kill them or beat them into submission. And it is futile to say of those Muslims who faithfully follow those teachings today that their actions are not ‘intrinsically related to Islam’.
“We are facing an Islamic revival….”
Me, I think O’Brien is right.
As for y ou: do you really think that 9/11, and the bombing of London buses and trains, and the bombing of Bali, and the Boston bombing, and the (fortunately failed) Times Square Valentine’s Day bombing, and any number of fortunately-foiled would-be-mass-murderous attacks, and the bombing of trains in Madrid and trains in Mumbai and trains in Russia and the seizure of the Beslan school and murder of children and their parents, and Mohammed Merah’s murderous rampage in France (including the shooting of a little Jewish schoolgirl in her head, point blank) and the attack on Mumbai city in 2008, and the attack on the Westgate mall in Nairobi, and so many, many, many other less publicised (but no less murderous) attacks on Infidels, all over the world, and the equally numerous attacks that were plotted but fortunately detected in time, are all..illusion?
Do you think you can stand on the sidelines, dismissing it all in a “plague on both houses” sort of way? Because you can’t.
If *you* are any kind of non-Muslim at all, sooner or later the Jihad will be coming for *you*.
Angemon says
Yes, Demon, we see what you’re talking about. You’re confusing the discussion of jihad attacks with the discussion of religion. In any case, if you don’t like the posts and/or comments, not the internet is a big place but there are also plenty of other ways to spend your time other than the internet.