What will history say? Peter Ingemi, DaTechGuy himself, has an intriguing answer today with specific reference to Pamela Geller and me, the Hamas-linked Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), and Boko Haram, the Nigerian jihad group officially known as the Congregation of the People of the Sunnah for Dawah and Jihad: “Pam Geller and Robert Spencer as Andy Rooney,” Datechguy, May 7, 2014:
I did get to Buchenwald the next day and I stared. I stared in embarrassed silence, thinking about the doubts I’d had in college and even more recently…I’d like to have taken Professor Boulding by the hand and shown him around Buchenwald. I was angry that I’d been fooled. For the first time, I knew for certain that any peace is not better than any war.
Andy Rooney, My War 2002
There are certain things that just stick in your head, one of the things that stick into mine was one Andy Rooney 60 minutes commentary on the Death Camps.
I remember how he talked about seeing the camp himself, and how serious he was when he said: “yes it happened, I saw it”.
I couldn’t find the video online but I couldn’t help think of it when I saw this story
The Rialto school district planned to revise an eighth-grade assignment that raised red flags by asking students to consider arguments about whether the Holocaust — the systematic killing by the Nazis of some 6 million Jews and millions of others — was not an “actual event” but instead a “propaganda tool that was used for political and monetary gain.”
While Camp of the Saints notes an interesting twist and Ed Driscol at Instapundit notes Ike’s attempts to make them undeniable it is a lesson that no amount of fact will cause people to wish to deny or minimize a reality unfavorable to their cause from doing so.
And that brings me to Pam Geller, Robert Spencer and Boko Haram.
Pam & Robert have been sounding the call on Radical Islam for a long time Part of those warning has been about Boko Harem [sic] in fact if you do a search for Boko Harem [sic] on Geller’s site
Take a good look at that figure
That’s more than CNN, more than CBS, ABC. or MSNBC (NBC’s newly redesigned site doesn’t display numbers)
But even Pam’s figures that beat all the major news organizations pale next to the 12,000 plus results at Jihad Watch:
For their efforts Pam & Robert are attacked as Islamophobes particularly by the Counsel [sic] on American Islamic Relations if you search their site there is no shortage of attacks on Pam or Robert as “islamophobes” who should be shunned.
If you are searching for info on Boko Haram the choices at CAIR are a tad more limited:
Yup one result.
Perhaps if the “moderate” muslims of CAIR been speaking out about Boko Haram and not trying to silence those who did try to warn the world about them, more than a hundred young girls might not be waiting to be sold into slavery today.
Read the rest here.





Brian Hoff says
I than poud of CAIR for speaking out against Boko Haram. All the Mosque in America needed to speak out against Boko Haram but they are make up of peaceful muslim who want to practive they religion in peace without getting involk in polical matter. I e-mail the mosque I goto to issue than statement against Boko Haram.
Myxlplik says
Brian’s letter hot off the press!
“We condem Boko Haram for starting a war to exterminate the non-believers too soon, before the establishment of a Caliphate and better parity of military power exists between the Islamic world and the west. Boko Haram is shedding the light too early upon what are the Islamic imperatives to commit genocide and ethnic cleansing, thusly jumping the gun as it were, and making it more difficult for stealth jihadists like CAIR and the Muslim Brotherhood to establish the Ummah as a beachhead in the west, before a clear ideological defense forms to counter the threat coalesces in western thought”.
pretty much sum it up?
jihad3tracker says
Bravo Myxlplik !!!
I am sending this splendid paragraph to the White House’s hiring chief, and Hillary Clinton’s campaign advisor.
Along with a recommendation that you be employed simultaneously by both of them as translator for all Islam-related press releases….
bart simpsonson says
Great summation. Wish I had thought of it……..
Jim Colorado says
LMAO! I’m afraid your letter is too literate for Brian.
Myxlplik says
LOL, you got me… my sarcasm is too obvious?
Myxlplik says
It was sarcasm based in part upon a memorandum regarding the Muslim Brotherhoods stated goals for North America.
“An Explanatory Memorandum on the General Strategic Goal for the Brotherhood in North America
by Mohamed Akram
May 19, 1991
View the full document
Summary:
This May 1991 memo was written by Mohamed Akram, a.k.a. Mohamed Adlouni, for the Shura Council of the Muslim Brotherhood. In the introductory letter, Akram referenced a “long-term plan…approved and adopted” by the Shura Council in 1987 and proposed this memo as a supplement to that plan and requested that the memo be added to the agenda for an upcoming Council meeting. Appended to the document is a list of all Muslim Brotherhood organizations in North America as of 1991.
Notable quotes:
Enablement of Islam in North America, meaning: establishing an effective and stable Islamic Movement led by the Muslim Brotherhood which adopts Muslims’ causes domestically and globally, and which works to expand the observant Muslim base, aims at unifying and directing Muslims’ efforts, presents Islam as a civilization alternative, and supports the global Islamic state, wherever it is.
In order for Islam and its Movement to become “a part of the homeland” in which it lives, “stable” in its land, “rooted” in the spirits and minds of its people, “enabled” in the live [sic] of its society and has firmly-established “organizations” on which the Islamic structure is built and with which the testimony of civilization is achieved, the Movement must plan and struggle to obtain “the keys” and the tools of this process in carry [sic] out this grand mission as a “Civilization Jihadist” responsibility which lies on the shoulders of Muslims and – on top of them – the Muslim Brotherhood in this country.
The process of settlement is a “Civilization-Jihadist Proecess” with all the word means. The Ikhwan must understand that their work in America is a kind of grand Jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and “sabotaging” its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and God’s religion is made victorious over all other religions. Without this level of understanding, we are not up to this challenge and have not prepared ourselves for Jihad yet. It is a Muslim’s destiny to perform Jihad and work wherever he is and wherever he lands until the final hour comes, and there is no escape from that destiny except for those who chose to slack. But, would the slackers and the Mujahedeen be equal.”
Everyone here knows the connection between the brotherhood, CAIR, and even our own government, and if you don’t know it’s easy enough to figure out.
Myxlplik says
Another aspect of the sarcasm is based upon this quote,
“Akram was well aware that in the U.S., it would be extremely difficult to promote Islam by means of terror attacks. Thus the “grand jihad” that he and his Brotherhood comrades envisioned was not a violent one involving bombings and shootings, but rather a stealth (or “soft”) jihad aiming to impose Islamic law (Sharia) over every region of the earth by incremental, non-confrontational means, such as working to “expand the observant Muslim base”; to “unif[y] and direc[t] Muslims’ efforts”; and to “present Islam as a civilization alternative.” At its heart, Akram’s document details a plan to conquer and Islamize the United States – not as an ultimate objective, but merely as a stepping stone toward the larger goal of one day creating “the global Islamic state.”
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=1235
So it should come as no surprise to anyone that since our government has been talking marching orders from groups like CAIR in policy that not only was our press pro brotherhood in Egypt, but like another post Robert put up today Hillary refused to place Boko Haram on the list of terror organizations. Perhaps her advisors had the same goals as Boko Haram?
Myxlplik says
And for those just visiting CAIR’s ultimate goal of supporting global Sharia is the same Sharia causing all the fuss in Brunei and Northern Nigeria. Just so there isn’t any confusion about who these folks are and what they really want.
PatnCat says
Well said! Thank God we still have first amendment & second amendment rights! We shall continue and not be silenced by the Hamas sympathizers CAIR who wish to pull that wool over our eyes! And they are the wanna-be wolves in cheap burka clothing for us women? NEVER. I pray the young girls are soon to be returned to their families. CAIR care? They don’t, what a pathetic acronym. If those girls were mohammedans, then they would be howling for ‘justice’.
jihad3tracker says
I might as well say a cheerful “Hello Scumbags !! ” to Ibrahim Hooper and his fellow traitors at CAIR, because they follow every post and every comment here at Jihadwatch —
Revisiting what I have written before — but it is even more evident with Boko Haram’s slaughter of 300 or so innocents today…
Another day, another massacre. SO WHAT IS ACTUALLY NEW IN THE WONDERFUL WORLD OF MUHAMMED AND HIS “GOD” ??
For CAIR’s endless Islamophobia press releases and media appearances, with the goal of propaganda and deceit, let’s dig up the old wise motto : Be careful what you wish for — you might get it.
Well, the more persons encounter Muslims and their deeds, the more revolted they are by what they learn…
jihad3tracker says
OOPS !! I forgot to tell CAIR’s psychotherapeutic crisis team — Nihad Awad & Corey Sailor — something URGENT :
Your favorite Islamist thug ( 2-leg sea urchin Nathan Lean ) has not posted anything on his website since the middle of February.
He might have become extremely depressed — a working life which consists of email deletions, bagging trash, ordering toner…
Please check on whether he has done away with himself… seriously.
If not, ask him to consider joining our side; that goes for anyone of you, too — reflect upon it just before saying evening prayers.
PatnCat says
After President Bush’s comment on Sept 11th about jihadist hijacking
islam the religion of peace, I finally AWOKE to the notion that I should ‘check it out for myself’ and actually READ the KORAN! Brother!! was I shocked at the hate speech and murderous intent of Mohaha and his demented brethren towards the women, girls, Jews, Christians, non-believers, relatives of Mohaha who jeered at him, Arab villagers who jeered at him….
So the wise words of Martin Luther of Germany: “The best way to drive out the devil, if he will not yield to texts of Scripture, is to jeer and flout him, for he cannot bear scorn.”
and then from Thomas More: “The devil…the prowde spirite…cannot endure to be mocked.”
I think that sums up a lot about the mohammedans and their barbaric demon inspired so-called religion/ political system (which should be TREASONOUS to the welfare of the USA and the entire FREE WORLD!)
Wellington says
50 to 1. Yes, 50 to 1.
In microcosm, pretty much says it all about the putrescence and dissumulation of CAIR.
mortimer says
CAIR’s strategy regarding Boko Haram is to keep a tight lip and hope this passes quickly…like a submarine being depthcharged!
However, the leftists and liberals won’t be able to get over the fact that jihad means abduction, enslavement and rape of teenaged schoolgirls.
This is a point of no-return for CAIR. They can no longer defend jihad.
Hobo Bakam says
“However, the leftists and liberals won’t be able to get over the fact that jihad means abduction, enslavement and rape of teenaged schoolgirls.”
Wanna bet? The leftist lapdogs of Islam probably haven’t even noticed any of this, or at least they ‘pretend’ not to notice.
Myxlplik says
An interesting PDF file I read about 6-7 years ago, for those who are interested
https://unilorin.edu.ng/publications/lemuel/Odeh%20The%20Resurgence%20of%20Sharia%20Issue.pdf
jihadnews.us says
I have seen the blind eye and the empty words for so long I fear I would have a coronary if I saw anything else from those quarters .
Boaz says
Hey CAIR, I thought I would take the opportunity to point you towards the TRUTH for a change. I understand that your master Satanallah, the father of lies, has you believe otherwise but EVERY nation destroyed on Judgement Day is an ISLAMIC nation! Read it and weep….
The Book of Isaiah, which has been verified almost WORD FOR WORD accurate against the Dead Sea Scrolls, details Judgement Day prophecy-you CANNOT deny this! EVERY nation destroyed is an ISLAMIC nation!!!
Babylon-Isaiah 13, Assyria and Palestine-Isaiah 14, Moab-Isaiah 15, Damascus-Isaiah 17, Cush (Sudan and Somalia)-Isaiah 18, Egypt-Isaiah 19, Egypt and Cush-Isaiah 20, Babylon (Iraq and Arabia)-Isaiah 21 and Tyre (Lebanon)-Isaiah 23.
PLEASE HEED THESE WARNINGS FROM GOD!!!
MESSIANIC PROPHECY in the Old Testament. The Book of Isaiah chapter 53, also Isaiah 48:12,16, 7:14-16, 9:6, 42:1-4, 50:6. Also Psalm 2:12, Psalm 22, Psalm 110, Micah 5:2-5, Zechariah 6:12, 9:9-10, 12:10.
The prophet Ezekiel’s vision….(notice the lower case “p” as opposed to the upper case “p” assigned by Muslims to Muhammad in the Quran that PROVES you actually worship him)
Then He brought me into the inner court of the LORD’S house. And behold, at the entrance to the temple of the LORD, between the porch and the altar, were about twenty-five men with their backs to the temple of the LORD and their faces toward the EAST; and they were prostrating themselves eastward toward the sun. – Ezekiel 8:16
More BAD NEWS….
For Gaza will be abandoned And Ashkelon a desolation; Ashdod will be driven out at noon And Ekron will be uprooted. Woe to the inhabitants of the seacoast, The nation of the Cherethites! The word of the LORD is against you, O Canaan, land of the Philistines; And I will destroy you so that there will be no inhabitant. So the seacoast will be pastures, With caves for shepherds and folds for flocks. And the coast will be For the remnant of the house of Judah, They will pasture on it. In the houses of Ashkelon they will lie down at evening; For the LORD their God will care for them And restore their fortune. I have heard the taunting of Moab And the revilings of the sons of Ammon, With which they have taunted My people And become arrogant against their territory. “Therefore, as I live,” declares the LORD of hosts, The God of Israel, “Surely Moab will be like Sodom And the sons of Ammon like Gomorrah– A place possessed by nettles and salt pits, And a perpetual desolation. The remnant of My people will plunder them And the remainder of My nation will inherit them.” This they will have in return for their pride, because they have taunted and become arrogant against the people of the LORD of hosts. The LORD will be terrifying to them, for He will starve all the gods of the earth; and all the coastlands of the nations will bow down to Him, everyone from his own place. “You also, O Ethiopians, will be slain by My sword.” And He will stretch out His hand against the north And destroy Assyria, And He will make Nineveh a desolation, Parched like the wilderness. Flocks will lie down in her midst, All beasts which range in herds; Both the pelican and the hedgehog Will lodge in the tops of her pillars; Birds will sing in the window, Desolation will be on the threshold; For He has laid bare the cedar work. – Zephaniah 2:4-13
If you can’t out wit Jesus Christ-the SON of God-in Matthew 22:41-46, then I suggest that all Muslims repent and accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior. It is the ONLY way to Salvation.
Huck Folder says
“This is a point of no-return for CAIR. They can no longer defend jihad.”
To your endless mortification Mortimer, there IS no point de bascule for cair. They, the entire organization, down to the mail person or newest intern, the group, its leaders, its supporters and its members, as an umma and as individuals will not speak out because they can not speak out. And it’s not for fear of apostasy, or more truthfully the fear of the consequences of that apostasy; it’s that they drank the kool aid, they snorted it, they injected it, they inhaled it.
Deeply.
Their drug of choice – “The Book of Hate™”
I can understand, a little, when children are indoctrinated, (without their choosing, because they don’t know), in the ‘religion’ or cult of their parents, especially if the parents, siblings and extended family are all rabid fundamentalists, that those apples don’t fall far from the trees.
I don’t understand at all, how educated adults willingly embrace something akin to or worse than Darth Vader’s ‘The Dark Side’. How do they justify all the belittling and even aggression to ‘the other? “Islam is good, promotes good and forbids evil.” So any evil act is unislamic, even as the perps scream “awadhu ackbar”. And when it’s ‘green on green’ they scream that at each other, as they SHELL mosques or homes. God forbid a filthy infidel STEP inside their ‘barracks’ with his even filthier shoes on!
Hypocrites, bigots, incessant (as well as incestuous) liars, they will NEVER give up until they are faced with a power much greater than their Satanic fantasies, like if mecca becomes a mirage, or the kaaba is carbonized.
MacUalraig says
Who can deny Spencer and Geller are noble defenders of human liberty?
They are true freedom fighters.
Regarding Nigeria, the MSM is just getting onboard and CAIR, as demonstrated, are MIA because they support their fellow Muslims regardless of the violence they perpetrate.
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
What will history say? I’m afraid we’d be disappointing were we still around to see. History has always been problematic, prone to distortion and outright lying. For example, most Chinese don’t know that their vaunted hero Mao stole millions of farms and starved tens of millions Chinese, at least 25 million. But the don’t know that. Similarly, most Infidels don’t know that Moslems worship an inherently and intrinsically violent god that calls for world takeover by mass murder.
I think history is ceasing to exist, and could end. No, not the real events as they occur in the actual world around us, but the recording of events, or non-events, as they occur in history departments and editorial offices across the globe.
History will be very kind to the Moslems, especially if they attain global Sharia. They’ll praise the great religions, do a few tut tuts on its adherents, the Moslems, and totally forget about Boko Haram.
dumbledoresarmy says
Sometimes it sounds like you have totally given up and decided that the Mohammedans are going to win and nobody here should imagine any other possible future, let alone even *think* that *anything* they are trying to do to prevent it will work…so why bother doing *anything* in the first place? Just despair, sit down in the corner, “freeze”, do nothing. Kismet. Mekhtoob. Destiny. N othing to be done, nothing worth doing, better not even try because everything you try to do will fail.
Why?
Does it occur to you that there are people who read here – perhaps quite a few – who may be *thoroughly demoralised* by the kinds of posts you just wrote?
And that if they are, and if they believe you, and decide to just give up and not bother doing anything to resist the jihad…at what point, what number of such people giving up and giving in….will *you* be helping to *create* the situation you claim merely to be describing, predicting, deploring?
wildjew says
Laura Ingraham sitting in for Bill O’Reilly, her segment last night: “Radical Islam and the clash of civilizations” talking about this issue. Another missed opportunity (basically a white wash I posted on her Facebook page but was later scrubbed) to have Spencer on rather than two guests (Zuhdi Jasser) and another spokesman for an American Islamic group that basically made the case this is a militant ideology (Islamism) that bears no resemblance to true Islam.
http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/oreilly/index.html#/v/3545189958001
Bezelel says
Thanks, I hoped someone else noticed that islamic disclaimer “not true islam”. Pure hogwash and I wished Laura would have called her on it, If she knows how.
wildjew says
Laura Ingraham is newly syndicated here in our area. I thought she was an intrepid warrior even as she took on Bill O’Reilly when he went soft but she goes soft on the global jihad.
Here is an interview she did with Robert Spencer last April.
Ingraham re: Tsarnaev jihad Boston Marathon terror attacks.
http://mp3play.noxsolutions.com/laura/mp3/041913_free.mp3
After it was clear these were jihad terror attacks perpetrated by young man steeped in jihad warfare Ingraham begins by urging, “We need to be very careful how we speak about this….”
And then invoking a Muslim friend of 18 years Ingraham told Spencer:
“We have to be very careful about demonizing an entire religion, an entire group of people, many of whom do not buy into this, many of whom do not want this, many of whom being in fear of another radicalized Muslim on American soil…”
Just now, I finished listening to Spencer’s latest book, “Arab Winter Comes to America: The Truth About the War We’re In.” Instead of listening to Ingraham’s program and Limbaugh’s program, I find myself listening to books. Time better spent I think. None of these people have a vision for this country in my opinion. Maybe they fear being called racists. I cannot say.
This might sound harsh. Because of all these week-kneed self-professed conservatives — essentially apologists for Islam on the radio — I mostly listen to books on audio instead.
wildjew says
correction: weak-kneed
wildjew says
Hillary fought to keep Boko Haram off terror list
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/05/08/hillary-fought-to-keep-boko-haram-off-terror-list/
dumbledoresarmy says
For some reason, this totally-Islamic kidnap – and rape, and sale as sex-slaves – of young mostly-non-Muslim schoolgirls in Nigeria – has captured the imagination of many.
The “Bring back our girls” line has gone viral on FB, for example.
It’s a **teaching moment**…hot on the heels of the *other* teaching moment supplied by Paul Weston with his Churchill quote. Indeed, it reinforces the line from Churchill about the enslavement of women within Islam, “the fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men”.
When the subject comes up – as it will, on social media, and around the water cooler and in the coffee room – we who know have the perfect opportunity to do two things – tell the story of the Rape of Aisha, as explanation for *why* the Boko Haram mobster , in his obscenely boasting video, declared that he would “marry off” the girl “from the age of nine”; and tell the stories of the seizure and rape of Rayhana, Juwariyya, and Safiyya (age 17), by Mohammed himself, the so-called ‘prophet” of Islam, who is understood by all Muslims to be the perfect man, the excellent model of conduct, whose every deed and word is deemed timelessly valid and perpetually worth of emulation right down to the smallest detail. “Marriage” – the “marital” rape – of prepubescent or barely-pubescent girls is not something Boko Haram thought up all by themselves; it is *normative Islam*, as per the example of Mohammed. And the rape and use or sale as sex-slaves of women and girls who have been violently seized in raids on non-Muslim communities is also nomative Islam, exactly mirroring the practice of Mohammed.
In fact, what’s needed is a leaflet to give to people. Or a poster to slap up on walls. The Barnabas Fund information booklet, “Islam and Slavery” talks more generally about the practice of slavery within Islam (sacralised by slave-owner Mohammed’s example), but would be a good start.
sidney penny says
“I always get nasty replies when I say that “the problem is not Muslims, the problem is Islam”;
http://www.islam-watch.org/anwarsheikh/index.html
http://www.islam-watch.org/anwarsheikh/OnIslamicTerrorism.htm
by Koenraad Elst
Being a European outsider to Islam, I always get nasty replies when I say that “the problem is not Muslims, the problem is Islam”; but here you have it from the horse’s mouth. It is perfectly possible to retain warm feelings for Muslims yet leave Islam and even criticize Islam.
http://www.saveindia.com/an_interview_with_koenraad_elst.htm