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Islamic honor killing in UK: Muslim murders wife for being “too Westernized”

May 1, 2014 4:03 am By Robert Spencer

Rania AlayedThis article, like most about honor killings, never once mentions Islam. This steadfast and universal refusal to identify the root cause of honor murders only ensures that there will be more of them.

Muslims commit 91 percent of honor killings worldwide. A manual of Islamic law certified as a reliable guide to Sunni orthodoxy by Al-Azhar University, the most respected authority in Sunni Islam, says that “retaliation is obligatory against anyone who kills a human being purely intentionally and without right.” However, “not subject to retaliation” is “a father or mother (or their fathers or mothers) for killing their offspring, or offspring’s offspring.” (‘Umdat al-Salik o1.1-2). In other words, someone who kills his child incurs no legal penalty under Islamic law. In this case, of course, the victim was the murderer’s wife, a victim to the culture of violence and intimidation that such laws help create.

The Palestinian Authority gives pardons or suspended sentences for honor murders. Iraqi women have asked for tougher sentences for Islamic honor murderers, who get off lightly now. Syria in 2009 scrapped a law limiting the length of sentences for honor killings, but “the new law says a man can still benefit from extenuating circumstances in crimes of passion or honour ‘provided he serves a prison term of no less than two years in the case of killing.’” And in 2003 the Jordanian Parliament voted down on Islamic grounds a provision designed to stiffen penalties for honor killings. Al-Jazeera reported that “Islamists and conservatives said the laws violated religious traditions and would destroy families and values.”

“Rania Alayed case: ‘Westernised’ wife ‘murdered by husband,'” BBC, April 30, 2014:

A mother of three from Manchester was murdered by her husband for becoming “too westernised” and “establishing an independent life”, a court has heard.

Rania Alayed, 25, went missing last June but her body has never been found.

Ahmed Al-Khatib admits causing her death, claiming he was “possessed of a spirit” when he pushed her, causing her to stumble, fall and bang her head.

Al-Khatib, of Gorton, and his brother Muhaned Al-Khatib, of Salford, both deny murder.

Syrian-born Ms Alayed went to drop off her children at the flat of the defendant’s brother where she was said to have been murdered.
‘Comply or be killed’

Muhaned Al-Khatib, 38, left the address with the children some 45 minutes later and shortly afterwards her husband, Ahmed Al-Khatib, 35, walked out wearing some of her traditional clothing with a suitcase containing her corpse, the Manchester Crown Court jury was told.

Muhaned Al-Khatib said he was not present at the time that any violence was used against Ms Alayed and did not bear any responsibility for her murder, the court heard.

It is alleged that in the early hours of the next day the two brothers, and another sibling, drove the body from the Manchester area to North Yorkshire where she was buried.

The prosecution told the jury the mother of three, from Cheetham Hill, had been “in fear of her husband” Al-Khatib and “believed he might one day kill her”.

She had sought help from the Citizens Advice Bureau, the police and eventually a solicitor which had angered her husband’s family, the court heard.

Tony Cross QC, prosecuting, said: “The family of the defendants were insulted that she had gone to the law. They wanted her and her children back within the family fold.

“They believed that she was establishing an independent life, perhaps with another man. Therefore, it was decided that she should either be forced to comply or be killed.”

He added that in her husband’s eyes she “began to become a little too westernised and had friends, male and female”.

“This was all too much for the first two defendants,” he said.

Al-Khatib and and his brother admit intending to pervert the course of justice by transporting and concealing the body of Ms Alayed.

A third brother, Hussain Al-Khatib, 34, of Knutsford Road, Gorton, denies the latter charge.

The trial continues.

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  1. Charli Main says

    May 1, 2014 at 4:16 am

    Seems to me that Muslim women are their own worst enemies.
    Most of them appear to fight for the right to dress in black bin bags and be treated as sub human slaves to Muslim men.
    Why aren’t they out on the streets shouting “we are not animals belong to men”
    Sorry, not much sympathy for them. Freedom is never given by oppressors, it has to be fought for.

    • umbra says

      May 1, 2014 at 4:42 am

      Cannot save those who do not wished (or want) to be saved.

    • ibn Muslim says

      May 1, 2014 at 8:13 am

      Your desire will be for your husband, and he will rule over you!

      Women can engage in a lot of verbal violence. It is up to a man to stop the verbal abuse by his wife by the threat of physical violence.

      • Tradewinds says

        May 1, 2014 at 8:37 am

        Robert – one of your mods needs to delete the above disgusting post by a revolting Muslim who is condoning violence against women.

        • gravenimage says

          May 1, 2014 at 12:15 pm

          Tradewinds, I don’t believe ibn Muslim’s repulsive post should be deleted.

          It shows *exactly* the mindset of a Muslim who would Honor Kill his victim—and as such it is sickening but *very, very instructive*.

        • Jax Tolmen says

          May 1, 2014 at 12:18 pm

          I disagree, these Muslims who post their drivel with utmost sincerity should be allowed to have their say. Do we not advocate free speech on this site?

          And besides, the intellectual smack down that will inevitably handed to any wayward Muslims who post on this site will be good reading material for future readers who may stumble upon this site. Our job is to discuss, not censor.

        • Tradewinds says

          May 1, 2014 at 2:20 pm

          Jax – there’s no “discussing” with the above Muslim and his woman-hating. He is completely fixed in his hate ideology called Islam.

        • gravenimage says

          May 1, 2014 at 9:25 pm

          Tradewinds, I agree that it is impossible to discuss anything with a pious Mohammedan like ibn Muslim.

          Instead, it is important to point out their vicious nonsense and apologia for savagery *to our fellow readers*.

          That, really, is the whole point of this site—to shine a light on the evil of Islam.

        • Jax Tolmen says

          May 2, 2014 at 1:30 am

          @Gravenimage and @Tradewinds
          Graven said what I meant in a more concise manner. If we leave Ibn’s comments there, it can illuminate to other readers just what exactly it is we are trying to fight against.

          Discussion is a broad term; we may never convince the barbaric idiot that he is wrong – but we can at least invalidate his views and retort sensibly – thus demonstrating the intellectual and moral superiorty of the anti – Jihad cause.

        • gravenimage says

          May 2, 2014 at 11:54 pm

          Thanks, Jax.

      • john spielman says

        May 1, 2014 at 8:45 am

        Dear Ibn muslim: what about Jesus saying of the husband and wife” the two shall become one” Islam is a demonic doctrine a that allows even encourages violence ; beatings mutilation, stealing lying raping murder and pedophilia aka your false prophet muhammed’s behavior!

        • Tradewinds says

          May 1, 2014 at 8:55 am

          “false prophet” – you got that right! The ‘ol warlord never prophesied anything! Fake! Fraud! Muhammed is a phony!

          You have to be seriously mentally-challenged to consider Islam a “religion.” If Islam’s a religion then so are Fascism and Nazism. Nasty Muslims.

      • gravenimage says

        May 1, 2014 at 12:31 pm

        The vile ibn Muslim wrote:

        Your desire will be for your husband, and he will rule over you!
        ……………………………….

        On another recent thread, ibn Muslim was lauding the evil practice of marrying 8-year-olds off to pedophiles because it is easier to frighten a child into unquestioning obedience:

        “At younger age it is also easier to teach women obedience – a good wife is an obedient wife.”

        http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/04/pakistan-tribal-council-marries-off-8-year-old-girl-to-26-year-old-man/comment-page-1#comment-1046160

        And remember—per Islamic tenets, a Muslim can beat, and presumably kill, a woman from whom he so much as *fears* disobedience.

        More:

        Women can engage in a lot of verbal violence. It is up to a man to stop the verbal abuse by his wife by the threat of physical violence.
        ……………………………….

        Firstly, ibn Muslim believes that a reasonable response to verbal abuse is *physical violence*.

        No one has to right to use physical violence except in self defense—but Muslims *always* resort to violence.

        Moreover, the idea that all Muslim wife-beating and “Honor Killing” is in response to verbal abuse is utterly ludicrous. Many abused wives are far too cowed to talk back at all.

        And of course ibn Muslim has no problem with *Muslim men* verbally abusing their wives.

        And why would he? In the Muslim view of “marriage”, it is normative for a husband to terrorize his wife—or wives—into a frightened submission.

        What a grotesque vision—there is no love in Islam.

      • Clare says

        May 1, 2014 at 7:16 pm

        What Islam councils is criminal and against the law in the US.
        If a husband has an abusive wife, he is to solve the problem in every way he can by doing NO HARM to her person. He can get marriage counseling, he can separate from her for a time, he can live in the basement and she can have the upper floors of the house with the children.
        Why does the husband have to attack her and hurt her? Why can he not just leave?

        • Clare says

          May 1, 2014 at 7:34 pm

          As well, ibn Muslim, Mahomedans like yourself are so dark of mind that you do not think or care for the children that suffer their mother to be attacked or even killed that now are left motherless. There is no greater hardness of heart than that which Islam produces in human beings.

      • Isabella says

        May 1, 2014 at 8:55 pm

        To Ibn Muslim:
        Churchill stood up to Hitler and read what he thought of Islam and women:”The fact that in Islamic law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a wel—a wife, a child, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power amongst men,”
        Evolution is a must.

      • Blais says

        May 2, 2014 at 12:49 am

        There the Bible is saying what will happen because Adam and Eve turned away from God. The relationship between men and women will become distorted. It wasn’t meant to be instructions on how to behave. That is not how God intended it to be. St. Paul tells Christians: “Husbands love your wives as Christ loved the Church, laying down his life for her.” And “Women respect your husbands.” Marriage is a mutual commitment. You should read the old marriage vows that former generations used to take, they were said at the wedding of Prince William and Kate. They are quite beautiful.

      • bernie says

        May 2, 2014 at 7:30 am

        real men don’t strike women for any reason whatsoever, except in legitimate self-defense, to avoid serious injury or death if the woman or girl is using physical violence. To do otherwise is to violate the laws of chivalry.

  2. MARIA H. DEFRAGA says

    May 1, 2014 at 4:24 am

    I can’t believe that it’s happening in the UK what’s wrong with the authorities her husband deserves life in prison what an horrible crime

  3. dumbledoresarmy says

    May 1, 2014 at 5:50 am

    From the article –

    “She had sought help from the Citizens Advice Bureau, the police and eventually a solicitor which had angered her husband’s family, the court heard.

    “Tony Cross QC, prosecuting, said: “The family of the defendants were insulted that she had gone to the law. They wanted her and her children back within the family fold.

    “They believed that she was establishing an independent life, perhaps with another man. Therefore, it was decided that she should either be forced to comply or be killed.” END QUOTE.

    They were all in on it.

    Either jail the lot of them…or, having jailed them for a period of time, to make the point, DEPORT THE LOT OF THEM.

    • gravenimage says

      May 1, 2014 at 12:51 pm

      “They were all in on it”

      Yes, Dumbledore’s Army—this is very common, where Honor Killing is a “family affair”, and sometimes even a “community affair”—where any Muslimah who dares to break away from the abuse is killed by the Ummah.

  4. duh_swami says

    May 1, 2014 at 5:50 am

    Simple really…You get out of line, you die. The woman/girl always gets a court trial before death. Her hubby/father/brother/ uncle/cousin, are the judge, jury, and executioner. If she is killed, it is because the Man/men of the house say she is guilty.
    A Mahoundian household is actually a court, where the hubby/father, are judges 24/7, and wardens of the prison for women Allah has created for them to supervise. Allah is very wise, kind and gentle even…

  5. Mirren10 says

    May 1, 2014 at 6:49 am

    ”The prosecution told the jury the mother of three, from Cheetham Hill, had been “in fear of her husband” Al-Khatib and “believed he might one day kill her”.

    She had sought help from the Citizens Advice Bureau, the police and eventually a solicitor which had angered her husband’s family, the court heard”

    So, she knew they were all angry with her, she didn’t live in a vacuum having no access to help and advice, but she still goes to her brother-in-law’s flat ?

    What a foolish thing to do. Why didn’t she go to a shelter ?

    mohammedan women **know** about ‘honour’ murders.

    ”Syrian-born Ms Alayed went to drop off her children at the flat of the defendant’s brother where she was said to have been murdered.”

  6. Michael Copeland says

    May 1, 2014 at 7:05 am

    The BBC, whose article this is, is tainted: it has many muslim employees and reporters. This accounts for the absence of any mention of honor-killing, Islam, Sharia, muslim, in the text.
    Search “BBC Fog-making: Soldier Murder in Afghanistan” and
    And “Deception by the BBC” at http://www.LibertyGB.org.uk

    Perhaps JihadWatch could start a Sanitizing Award for such artful misinformation.

    • gravenimage says

      May 1, 2014 at 12:58 pm

      Michael Copeland wrote:

      The BBC, whose article this is, is tainted: it has many muslim employees and reporters. This accounts for the absence of any mention of honor-killing, Islam, Sharia, muslim, in the text.
      …………………………….

      This is part of it, Michael—but I believe it’s the other way ’round.

      It is “political correctness” that leads Western news outlets like the BBC and others to avoid any negative references about Islam.

      It is this same insanity, in fact, that leads them to hire Muslim “reporters”, as well.

    • Huck Folder says

      May 2, 2014 at 2:40 am

      The Scottish schoolchild Kriss Donald was brutally raped, tortured and murdered by islamist Paki filth, and the whole thing was swept under the BBC carpet for months. They were later forced to admit that ‘racism’ is not synonymous with ‘white’. But it was too late; time somehow decreases the impact of a crime, even one as horrific as that.

      It would be interesting to know what internal rules the BBC and the rest of the MSM have, for identifying ‘Asians’ rather than mohammedans, in the endemic of pedophile rape gangs.

      Meanwhile, all the innocent ‘Asians’ like Chinese, Japanese, Koreans…not to mention the non-mohammedan/civilized members of Pakistan or Bangladesh are tarred with the same brush.

      And having over 2,000 card-carrying mohammedans in the UK police force (NAMP) can’t make matters easier for indigenous, true thinking, patriotic Britons.

  7. Jay Boo says

    May 1, 2014 at 7:50 am

    Islam Museums
    Let every city host an Islam “Affront to human dignity Museum traveling exhibit.

    EXHIBIT GALLERIES
    Family Honor killings
    Lynching s
    Stoning technique
    Pillage raping and Looting like Muhammad

    • Charli Main says

      May 1, 2014 at 9:57 am

      LOL. good one!!!
      I´d also add a ” farewell intercourse ” gallery that shows that it is not a crime or sin for Muslim men to have sex with a dead woman.

      ” there is no punishment in Islam for having sex with a dead woman or animal”
      Al khabib Al Sherbini—–2/521

      ” there is no punishment for having intercourse with a dead woman”
      Hawashi Al Sharwani—-Vol 1/P263

      more later–ta ta for now.

      • Jay Boo says

        May 1, 2014 at 12:03 pm

        a shout out also to Salah’s web link
        Let us not forget a crossmuslims power-point presentation.

        • Salah says

          May 1, 2014 at 2:01 pm

          Thanks Jay Boo. Here’s the link to “Necrophilia in Islam”

          http://crossmuslims.blogspot.com/2010/03/necrophilia-in-islam-necrophilie-en.html

          Charli Main is right; there is no punishment in Islam for having sex with a dead woman or animal!!!

  8. Rezali Mehil says

    May 1, 2014 at 7:56 am

    When something of regrettable proportions happen, the extended family is thinking more than simply “insult to husband” and “injury to ANO”.

    In this extremely sad case, there are the children to consider. How is the insult to the father and Islam going to affect them? Why isn’t this of overriding concern?

    Children are very impressionable…..they spread their message far and wide…to friends and cousins …who in turn too will move towards kufr style thinking.

    They have to be saved. In the extreme the generation of their extended family will have been lost to Islam – clearly the pathetic brother-in-law thought it was too high a price.

    The brothers would have discussed this …”we do not want our children to be spoilt….husband …you need to sort this out…and quick”.

    The husband in turn would have spent hours in the “company of Allah SWT” wanting answers and direction.

    Allah’s SWT would have directed him towards “soula” – negotiation and understanding, however his anger, depression and brothers in his ear …got the better of him and he did not receive the message.

    The brothers would have told him that it has been months…”Allah is not talking right now”….”but I love her” …”yes… we know that …but think of the children”.

    It looks like the husband was still talking to Allah SWT whilst the brother took unilateral action….all she needed was direction – she would have come back.

    The husband is innocent – only the wife and her brother in law are to blame.

    The husband should be allowed to find another dutiful Muslima ….who can instill proper non kufr values to the children , look after the children …and possibly give him more children of her own.

    More Later….

    Rezali

    • Jay Boo says

      May 1, 2014 at 8:14 am

      I thought that all Muslims were forbidden to speak for Allah.
      Such blatant hypocrisy.

      Every Muslim is a pious prophet, it seems.
      Muslims helping Allah to speak
      So kind of them, so very kind

      more later…
      Jay Boo

    • Tradewinds says

      May 1, 2014 at 8:47 am

      What a bunch of BS, Muslim. You people are the barbarians of the world.

      This murderer should not have any more children or wives. He belongs behind bars. There are too many Mohammedans as it is. Stop over-populating the planet with your backward and barbaric polygamy and child brides. Barbarians.

      That you actually blame the wife and not her killer shows what a barbarian you are and your evil creed that should be abolished.

      There is no Allah btw. You’re praying to the Arabian pagan moon deity, you deluded nincompoop.

    • Islamisdeath says

      May 1, 2014 at 8:58 am

      You are truly depraved.
      Please no “more later”. In fact later much later for you. You death cult zombie.

      Only in islam can you commit murder and dismemberment and be considered innocent . Islam is satanic.

    • St. Michael Defend Us says

      May 1, 2014 at 9:15 am

      If a muslim man does not want his wife, children, family to become westernized, the most obvious course of action is NOT to move them to a western country!

    • Jax Tolmen says

      May 1, 2014 at 12:28 pm

      It is obvious from your poor grammar that English is not your first language, which tells me you are either not living in the West – or you are a migrant. I’d prefer the first, but I strongly suspect the latter.

      Let me be very, very clear to you my Muslim friend. If you live in the Western World, then it is the husbands fault that he killed his wife. It is not the wife’s fault. That is sick. You are sick.

      If you do not agree with Western values, then I implore you to return to whatever dirty, violent hole it was that you originate from and take your barbaric beliefs with you. A time will come when the West becomes just as intolerant as you, and it would be wise for you to leave before that comes to pass.

      I hope you never marry, and that you never breed. Such backwards, disturbing beliefs should not be allowed to spread. You, and others like you (not all Muslims) are the source of all the evil in the world. I hope you are capable of changing, and if not – I hope even more you are capable of disappearing.

      • gravenimage says

        May 1, 2014 at 1:03 pm

        Jax, Rezali Mehil is a Muslimah who has taken up residence in Britain—and has been quite open about wanting to turn that center of civilization into another Islamic sh*t hole.

        • Jax Tolmen says

          May 1, 2014 at 1:13 pm

          Thank you Graven, that is extremely disconcerting to hear. People such as this despicable piece of filth provoke overwhelming feelings of anger in me. I understand the concept of stealth jihad and cultural supremacy, but I cannot believe that every Muslim comes to the West purely for those reasons.

          It is incredibly disturbing that people with such beliefs are allowed into our countries, when it is obvious that they’re diligently working to subvert the freedoms they use to attack our way of life.

          I fear that this.man will commit some crime, and be arrested and jailed – all the while crying that he was the victim of ‘islamophobia’.

        • gravenimage says

          May 1, 2014 at 9:40 pm

          Jax, I do believe that some Muslims come to the West to try to escape their Islamic sh*t holes, but bring the gruesome baggage of Islam with them.

          Others come just to make some money—often through sponging off the Kuffar, living on the dole.

          This is all harmful to us, but worse—there are quite a number of pious Muslims who come to the West specifically as a kind of “Hijira”—that is, they are Muslim supremacists who are here to take over.

          Certainly, gloating Muslim supremacists like Rezali Mehil fall into this category. I fear there are a great many others just like her.

        • Jax Tolmen says

          May 2, 2014 at 1:36 am

          @Gravenimage
          Thank you for the reply, I concur whole – heartedly with what you are saying. The kind of dole bludging migrant is endemic throughout Australia – a majority of supposed ‘refugees’ that arrive on our shores via boat are in truth just economic migrants.

          I am surprised at how happy I am with the current governments methods of stopping the boats – they tow every single illegal vessel back to Indonesia and dump them there. Hopefully that continues into the future.

          I am all for the resettlement of genuine refugees, as long as they vow to accept and adopt Western values. I am not for economic migrants who come here, cause trouble and abuse our generous welfare system.

      • Mirren10 says

        May 1, 2014 at 3:53 pm

        Hi, Jax.

        rezali **purports to be a Shiite mohammedan female, living in the UK.

        From various clues, I myself think he is a mohammedan **male**, and doesn’t live in the UK.

        He is a liar and a deceiver, but his posts are very useful, rather like ibn muslim’s, in revealing the sickening mohammedan mindset.

        I was going to systematically trash his drivel, but graven has done such a good job, it’s not necessary ! 🙂

        • gravenimage says

          May 1, 2014 at 9:33 pm

          Mirren, you are quite right—I should have said that Rezali Mehil *claims* to be a Muslimah who has inveigled residence in the UK.

          And thank you for your kind words. Hope you are well.

        • Jax Tolmen says

          May 2, 2014 at 1:38 am

          Thank you for a response – Gravenimage is certainly an asset to the cause, the rhetoric and knowledge he imparts is invaluable and far beyond my own ability to contribute.

          I do not claim to have as much knowledge about the specifics of Islam as many others who frequent this site, but I do hope to bring a balanced and reasonable opinion based more on ethics than fact. Hopefully it is valuable in some small way.

        • Islamisdeath says

          May 2, 2014 at 3:50 pm

          I am almost certain based on the tone of the posts that “Rezali” is a man and likely an imam or other authoritarian male. Rezali is also most like a jihadi planning or involved in the murder of many. Male or female it is depraved either way.

    • Bradamante says

      May 1, 2014 at 12:50 pm

      Why do you assume the family would have been lost to Islam? If Islam is so wonderful, surely the kufr-ized children would have found their way back to it eventually?

      What kind of religion is so weak that it has to be propped up with terror and murder?

    • gravenimage says

      May 1, 2014 at 1:56 pm

      I was wondering is the repulsive Rezali Mehil was going to weigh in on this story—and here she is, turning up like a bad penny. She wrote:

      When something of regrettable proportions happen, the extended family is thinking more than simply “insult to husband” and “injury to ANO”.

      In this extremely sad case, there are the children to consider. How is the insult to the father and Islam going to affect them? Why isn’t this of overriding concern?

      Children are very impressionable…..they spread their message far and wide…to friends and cousins …who in turn too will move towards kufr style thinking.

      They have to be saved…
      …………………………………

      Notice what the sickening Rezali Mehil is positing here—that if a Muslimah tries to escape abuse that she is “turning to kufr style thinking”. And why not? What could be more islamic than suffering abuse and a love-less marriage?

      And worse: she is positing that the best thing for the children is to *have their father murder their mother*.

      Again, why not? This should terrify the girls into submission, and teach the boys that if they “fear disobedience” that they can simply murder their wife (or wives).

      *This* is normative Islam. *Ugh*.

      More:

      In the extreme the generation of their extended family will have been lost to Islam – clearly the pathetic brother-in-law thought it was too high a price.
      …………………………………

      And what is *murder* compared to “being lost to Islam”? But then, this is no “sacrifice” at all—pious Muslims do love their murder…

      More:

      The brothers would have discussed this …”we do not want our children to be spoilt….husband …you need to sort this out…and quick”.
      …………………………………

      Several things here—firstly, note that Rezali Mehil considers the idea of letting their mother live to be “spoiling” the children. Can anything be more depraved?

      And note that she assumes—probably quite correctly—that this poor woman’s murder was a *family affair*. This is often the case—where entire Muslim families conspire to lure and murder one of its members.

      Winston Churchill was right when he called the Muslim family “an abominable institution”. It is entirely based on terrorizing and brutalizing its weakest members.

      More:

      The husband in turn would have spent hours in the “company of Allah SWT” wanting answers and direction.

      Allah’s SWT would have directed him towards “soula” – negotiation and understanding, however his anger, depression and brothers in his ear …got the better of him and he did not receive the message.

      The brothers would have told him that it has been months…”Allah is not talking right now”….”but I love her” …”yes… we know that …but think of the children”.

      It looks like the husband was still talking to Allah SWT whilst the brother took unilateral action….all she needed was direction – she would have come back.

      The husband is innocent – only the wife and her brother in law are to blame.
      …………………………………

      What bs—Rezali Mehil has said many times that she considers *the murderer* in cases of Honor Killings *to be the victim*.

      This is literally standing over the body of the murder victim and saying, “look what you made me do!”. *Ugh*.

      More:

      The husband should be allowed to find another dutiful Muslima ….who can instill proper non kufr values to the children , look after the children …and possibly give him more children of her own.
      …………………………………

      And if she in turn is not sufficiently “dutiful”? Why, then the good Muslim can murder her himself—or else find another family member eager to do the slaughter.

      God, I hate Islam.

      • gravenimage says

        May 1, 2014 at 9:58 pm

        A couple more things from the vicious Rezali Mehil:

        When something of regrettable proportions happen, the extended family is thinking more than simply “insult to husband” and “injury to ANO”.
        …………………………………

        There is no individuality in Islam—especially for the vulnerable. A woman is not trying to escape a violent marriage—instead, she is seen as “insult[ing] husband” or causing “injury to ANO[ther].

        And note that Rezali Mehil does not consider the *murder* to be “something of regrettable proportions”, but only the poor woman’s doomed attempt at flight.

        More:

        The husband is innocent – only the wife and her brother in law are to blame.
        …………………………………

        And the usual—note that she is *blaming the victim* for her own murder. *Ugh*.

      • dumbledoresarmy says

        May 1, 2014 at 11:21 pm

        Gravenimage

        just a small correction – it wasn’t Churchill who called the Muslim family “an abominable institution”, it was a brilliant Irishman, Conor Cruise O’Brien (1917-2008 ), a portion of whose life overlapped with that of Churchill.

        In an interview published in the Times on 11 May 1989, he said:

        “Muslim society looks profoundly repulsive…It looks profoundly repulsive because it *is* repulsive…

        “A westerner who claims to admire Muslim society, whilst still adhering to Western values, is either a hypocrite or an ignoramus or a bit of both.
        “** At the heart of the matter is the Muslim family, an abominable institution”.** {my emphasis – dda}.

        I haven’t yet tried tracking down the whole of that 1989 article or interview – it would have to be sought in a microfilm of back issues of the London “Times” – but it strikes me as a project well worth attempting; I would *love* to know what else Mr O’Brien had to say, in that same piece, on the subject of Islam and Muslims.

        • gravenimage says

          May 2, 2014 at 12:27 am

          Dumbledore’s Army wrote:

          just a small correction – it wasn’t Churchill who called the Muslim family “an abominable institution”, it was a brilliant Irishman, Conor Cruise O’Brien
          …………………………

          Of course you’re right, DDA—moreover, I *knew* that. I suppose I just “blanked” on the provenance—thanks for the correction.

          In any case, it is a profound observation—and one regularly borne out by seeing how oppressive, abusive, controlling, and violent these Muslim families are.

    • Clare says

      May 1, 2014 at 7:45 pm

      I personally do not care about the councils of Islam; it only councils error. If you live in the US, you are to assimilate into our way of life and apply our laws to every aspect of your lives, even your marriages; freedom of speech, freedom of movement, freedom of thought and equal treatment for all. If this is not possible in Islam, then leave Islam and become an American.

  9. Jay Boo says

    May 1, 2014 at 9:52 am

    Do you hear the call?
    There is a hellish storm raging hate from old worn out verses of “Islam-isation”.
    Children of truth rise and shine your light on Islam’s carnage from Satan’s creation.

  10. CogitoErgoSum says

    May 1, 2014 at 11:03 am

    I heard your baby say
    When he was only three
    “Daddy, let’s get some girls
    One for you and one for me.”
    His mother had the frailty
    You despise
    And the looks
    You love to drive to suicide
    Not one wet eye around
    Her lonely little grave
    Said, “He was out of line girl
    You were not to blame.”
    –from “Not to Blame” by Joni Mitchell

  11. Walter Sieruk says

    May 1, 2014 at 1:39 pm

    This terrrible murder that happened because of the cruel , heinous act of “honor killing” whichis the result of the extreme misogyny of Islam. As Brigitte Gabriel exposed in her book THEY MUST BE STOPPED. Which reads “The shocking reality is that most Muslim men, including those educated in the West, have no objection to honor killing and the degradation of women in their countries. Accross the Muslm world,even in moderate Islamic countries, womens rights are almost nonexistent…Women in Islam are considered unclean, deemed inferior even to dirt.”
    pages171,172.

  12. Tom Billesley says

    May 2, 2014 at 7:36 am

    His defence is partly that she appeared to him as a djinn.
    A djinn that was too westernised?
    Then he tried to throttle the court interpreter. He was obviously displeased with the translation.
    Manchester Evening News May 1st 2014

    • gravenimage says

      May 3, 2014 at 12:52 am

      Thanks for the grim update, Tom.

      And yes—this “defense” doesn’t even make sense in Islamic terms. Clearly, though, the pious butcher hopes it will be enough to snow the credulous Kuffar.

      Maybe not, though, with his actually attacking court staff…

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