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Pakistan: Woman stoned to death by her family for marrying man she loved

May 27, 2014 11:39 am By Robert Spencer

AFDIhonorkillingadMuslims commit 91 percent of honor killings worldwide. A manual of Islamic law certified as a reliable guide to Sunni orthodoxy by Al-Azhar University, the most respected authority in Sunni Islam, says that “retaliation is obligatory against anyone who kills a human being purely intentionally and without right.” However, “not subject to retaliation” is “a father or mother (or their fathers or mothers) for killing their offspring, or offspring’s offspring.” (‘Umdat al-Salik o1.1-2). In other words, someone who kills his child incurs no legal penalty under Islamic law.

The Palestinian Authority gives pardons or suspended sentences for honor murders. Iraqi women have asked for tougher sentences for Islamic honor murderers, who get off lightly now. Syria in 2009 scrapped a law limiting the length of sentences for honor killings, but “the new law says a man can still benefit from extenuating circumstances in crimes of passion or honour ‘provided he serves a prison term of no less than two years in the case of killing.'” And in 2003 the Jordanian Parliament voted down on Islamic grounds a provision designed to stiffen penalties for honor killings. Al-Jazeera reported that “Islamists and conservatives said the laws violated religious traditions and would destroy families and values.”

In light of all this, until authorities get the courage to tell the truth about honor killing, there will be many more such murders.

“Pakistani woman stoned to death for marrying man she loves,” Associated Press, May 27, 2014 (thanks to Ravi):

Lahore, Pakistan — A woman was stoned to death by her own family in front of a Pakistani high court on Tuesday for marrying the man she loved, police and a defense lawyer said.

Nearly 20 members of the woman’s family, including her father and brothers, attacked her and her husband with batons and bricks in broad daylight before a crowd of onlookers in front of the high court of Lahore, said police official Naseem Butt. He said Farzana Parveen, 25, had married Mohammad Iqbal, with whom she had been engaged for years in opposition to her family.

Her father had filed an abduction case against her husband, which the couple was contesting, her lawyer Mustafa Kharal said.

Arranged marriages are the norm among conservative Pakistanis, who view marriage for love as a transgression.

Hundreds of women are killed every year in Muslim-majority Pakistan in so-called “honor killings” carried out by husbands or relatives as a punishment for alleged adultery or other illicit sexual behavior.

Kharal said Parveen’s relatives waited outside the court, which is located on a main downtown thoroughfare. As the couple walked up to the court’s main gate, the family members fired shots in the air and tried to snatch her from Iqbal, he said.

When she resisted, her father, brothers and other relatives started beating her, eventually pelting her with bricks from a nearby construction site, Iqbal said.

Iqbal, 45, said he started seeing Parveen after the death of his first wife, with whom he had five children.

“We were in love,” he told The Associated Press. He alleged that the woman’s family wanted to fleece money from him before marrying her off.

“I simply took her to court and registered a marriage,” infuriating the family, he said.

Butt, the police official, said Parveen’s father surrendered after the incident and called the murder an “honor killing.”

The Human Rights Commission of Pakistan, a private organization, said in a report last month that some 869 women were murdered in so-called honor killings in 2013.

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  1. mariam rove says

    May 27, 2014 at 11:48 am

    How could one stone his own kid to death? This does not get any more vile…. and how about the on lookers? They just stood by seeing this woman stoned to death? Is rep. Keith Ellison and CAIR going to send out a letter? M

    • islamisdeath says

      May 27, 2014 at 4:08 pm

      Not sure about Keith mariam but the word out there is that Michelle plans on a tough tweet and a really nasty facial expression to go with the photo of her hash tag being held up. Should clear this nastiness up in Pakistan right away!

    • islamisdeath says

      May 27, 2014 at 4:11 pm

      Not sure about Keith Mariam but word is Michelle plans a really stern tweet and a nasty facial for the photo of her holding the hashtag with the tweet. Should straighten this mess up in Pakistan right away! So relieved we have such a good tweeter for first lady! How bout you?

      • islamisdeath says

        May 27, 2014 at 4:12 pm

        sorry for double post it did not appear to post the first time!

      • mariam rove says

        May 27, 2014 at 5:24 pm

        we have 2 more years of this plague left. I do not believe in god, but god help us is very true here….m

    • mortimer says

      May 28, 2014 at 9:47 am

      Muslims are barbarians if they agree with this behavior. Such people have no place in a civilized country and should be denied entry, visas, residency and citizenship. Send them back to Berzerkistan.

    • RG says

      May 28, 2014 at 1:51 pm

      Ellison is not simply the poster child for the scum of the earth, he’s the epidomy of STUPID!!! Oh, I mean STOOPIT!!!

    • John says

      May 30, 2014 at 5:20 am

      And What of the Innocent Child? The women was pregnant was she not? As far as True Divine Justice Judges : this was a double homicide and the perpetrators are guilty of shedding innocent blood, especially that of the child.
      Is this what they call a ‘Honor Killing’? Islam regards Moses as a Prophet Also. If so they should recognize that the divine law handed down regarded murder the killing of a child in its mothers womb…

      Exodus 21:
      22 “And in case men should struggle with each other and they really hurt a pregnant woman and her children do come out but no fatal accident occurs, he is to have damages imposed upon him without fail according to what the owner of the woman may lay upon him; and he must give it through the justices. 23 But if a fatal accident should occur, then you must give soul for soul,

  2. PRCS says

    May 27, 2014 at 12:33 pm

    1. One would think that there would be at least some police presence at a Pakistani high court’s main gate, eh?

    2. While the very concept of so-called “honor killings” is repulsive to most here, note from the article that, in Muslim majority Pakistan, Allah’s divinely mandated murder may be carried out even against those merely alleged to have “transgressed”.

  3. gravenimage says

    May 27, 2014 at 12:53 pm

    Pakistan: Woman stoned to death by her family for marrying man she loved
    …………………………..

    There is no love in Islam.

    More:

    In light of all this, until authorities get the courage to tell the truth about honor killing, there will be many more such murders.
    …………………………..

    Alas, I think this has little to do with lack of courage, and much more to do with their holding the same vile creed as the murderers.

    More:

    Nearly 20 members of the woman’s family, including her father and brothers, attacked her and her husband with batons and bricks in broad daylight before a crowd of onlookers in front of the high court of Lahore…
    …………………………..

    As so often, “Honor Killing” is a Muslim family affair—this is just a bit more obvious than usual.

    And this happened *right outside Lahore’s high court*, on a busy downtown street. Lahore is usually considered Pakistan’s most cosmopolitan and sophisticated city–which just shows what a comparative concept *that* is.

    Where were the police? Were they absent, intimidated, or in sympathy with the murderers?

    More:

    Her father had filed an abduction case against her husband…
    …………………………..

    “Abduction”—and yet, there are many *actual* cases of Muslims abducting Infidel girls, which are seldom prosecuted in Pakistan.

    More:

    Arranged marriages are the norm among conservative Pakistanis, who view marriage for love as a transgression.
    …………………………..

    This just shows that these are not just “arranged marriages”, but *forced marriages*.

    And what creed regards marrying for love as a “transgression”? Only Islam.

    But *murdering* someone who marries for love is perfectly Halal…

    More:

    …the family members fired shots in the air and tried to snatch her from Iqbal, he said.
    …………………………..

    Would *this* be regarded as abduction had they been successful? I wouldn’t count on it…

    More:

    “We were in love,” he told The Associated Press. He alleged that the woman’s family wanted to fleece money from him before marrying her off.
    …………………………..

    It wouldn’t surprise me. Pious Muslims hate girls, but consider them a bargaining chip for making money from dowries. In other words, they sell their daughters into marriage. *Ugh*.

    More:

    Butt, the police official, said Parveen’s father surrendered after the incident and called the murder an “honor killing.”
    …………………………..

    Unlike in the West, Muslims in Dar-al-Islam proudly proclaim “Honor Killings”.

    • bettina says

      May 27, 2014 at 1:37 pm

      Your very civil, rational words here nonetheless fuel my need to vomit on these animals, Graven.
      Actually, the animal kingdom is superior to the muslim creed and its barbaric misogyny in that animals fight male-to-male for possession of the females.
      Therefore, islam preaches a sub-animal doctrine against women.

      • gravenimage says

        May 27, 2014 at 7:36 pm

        Agreed, Bettina—calling pious Mohammedans “animals” is in most cases an insult to animals.

        And I hope I wasn’t *so* civil that my righteous anger at these barbarians brutally slaughtering *their own daughter* for marrying for love didn’t show through.

        God, I hate Islam.

  4. Jaladhi says

    May 27, 2014 at 12:56 pm

    “Oh, its only ba cultural thing – it has nothing to do with Islam and Muslims” — this what the entire western world will ignore this horrible act of Muslims. And where does it come from, if not Quran and Mo/allah than where. All these morons can never anser this question truthfully!!!

    If we keep on ignoring – it will come here, perhaps it is already here in some other form such as honor killing of so many Muslim girls in US, Canada, europe..

  5. boakai ngombu says

    May 27, 2014 at 12:58 pm

    ” … He alleged that the woman’s family wanted to fleece money from him before marrying her off….”

    tragic … Muhammad Iqbal refused to pay the bride price, another strong tradition in the evil culture of Islam.

  6. bettina says

    May 27, 2014 at 1:43 pm

    They must’ve held Iqbal down and subdued while the tragedy was going on, but why didn’t they also kill this so-called kidnapper, over whom they had the undeniable advantage?
    Because islam says that honor killing is only conducted against women, even though there’s always a man in that situation.

  7. Angemon says

    May 27, 2014 at 1:53 pm

    “in 2003 the Jordanian Parliament voted down on Islamic grounds a provision designed to stiffen penalties for honor killings. Al-Jazeera reported that “Islamists and conservatives said the laws violated religious traditions and would destroy families and values.””

    Killing your next of kin: A-OK.

    Going to jail for killing your next of kin: can’t have that because it “would destroy families and values”.

    Ladies and gentlemen, islamic logic for you.

    • bettina says

      May 27, 2014 at 2:36 pm

      Logic in islam? When we take in all the savagery and barbarism it practices daily in several parts of the world, how can one imagine the very concept of logic in relation to the cult of death?
      Sick… So very sick!

  8. Guy Macher says

    May 27, 2014 at 2:33 pm

    Mohameddanism is pure evil.

  9. Hindu American says

    May 27, 2014 at 2:49 pm

    I wonder how much empowered all those muslimas and neo-converts now feel?

  10. Walter Sieruk says

    May 27, 2014 at 3:09 pm

    This stoning to death of the women was outright murder. These so called”honor kilings”are in reality,cruel, , heartless, bloodthristy and murderous acts of total evil. These actions are the fruits of Islam. Moreover these malecious and hidious actions of wickness which of called “honor killings” are also commited be many other vicious ways then only stoning. This has been exposed in the book THEY MUST BE STOPPED be Brigitte Gabriel on pages 171,172. Which exposes the reality of the truth. For it reads
    “The shocking reality is that most Muslim men , including those educated in the West, have no objection to honor killing and the degradation of women in their countries. Across the Muslim world, even in moderated Islamic countries, women’s rights are almost nonexistent….Women in Islam are considered unclean, deemed inferior even to dirt.”

  11. SB Steelers says

    May 27, 2014 at 3:21 pm

    Coming soon to a town in Michigan – Honor killings, Sharia style.

  12. MuslimConvert says

    May 27, 2014 at 3:39 pm

    I do not agree with those Muslims who think themselves to be little Allahs here on Earth, killing & stoning anyone who doesn’t agree with them. They are committing a major sin by employing Western-inspired absolutist thinking, just like the communists who killed everyone who wasn’t communist enough. Nor do I agree with the opposite position, giving women freedom to have sex freely and without consequences with whomever they choose. Moderate Islam is the path towards the future, and I pray to Allah (swt) that the West will eventually embrace Islam and stop its spiraling descent into amorality and chaos.

    It is well-known that in the West, men no longer know what it means to truly love a woman without experiencing much grief in the process. This is because Western society offers no guarantees of keeping the woman. In the West, whenever a richer, more handsome, more entertaining man comes along, the woman is free to cheat on her husband without consequences. This is one of the reasons I converted to Islam, because of the security of marriage it brings. Muslim women have to be faithful to their husbands, otherwise they are shunned by the whole community. Islam is a religion that addresses the grievances of single men everywhere. If you are single and want a wife to love you and treat you like her king, converting to Islam might be one of the decisions to take.

    • No Fear says

      May 27, 2014 at 6:11 pm

      Do all the families in Pakistan carry bricks with them to the High Court? How many bricks did they carry with them? Did they use “sharp” stones or big round stones?

    • dumbledoresarmy says

      May 27, 2014 at 6:32 pm

      Soo…you converted to old Mo’s “Worship-the-penis Club”, eh?

      Thus revealing that you hanker after unrestricted thuggery.

      What do you think of the fact that orthodox sharia law permits you – in emulation of mohammed the mad who screwed little Aisha when she turned nine – to “marry” a nine-year-old prepubescent flat-chested little *girl* and *rape* her…even if it KILLS her. Are you a pedophile by any chance? You like ’em really, really young, and Islam allows you to indulge your vileness with impunity…indeed, with its blessing?

      Or are you into *hitting* women? Surah 4:34 of the infernal and accursed Quran permits – nay, encourages- you to HIT – BEAT – a woman that you merely *imagine* or “fear” “might* be “rebellious”. Do you get off on that…having a “license to hit” any time you feel like it? A ‘religion’ that encourages its men to fear and suspect and feel contempt for women and then tells them to *hit* women, is made to order for control freaks, sadists and bullies.

      You omit the fact that sharia sez that if you grab and rape and stuff into your damned harem the *lawfully married wife* of a non-Muslim man, that’s OK…:SPIT: PUKE: because those feeelthy kafir marriage vows don’t count for nuthin, do they?

      And as for having four “wives” simultaneously, and then an unlimited number of “possessions of the right Hand”…i.e SEX SLAVES…what sort of “morality” is that?

      And if you get tired of them, and want some young hot meat, you can just rattle off “talaq talaq talaq” and toss them out of the house. Great power trip, that. You whine about men having no ‘security” in the western system…but does Islam exactly offer very much in the way of security for a *woman*?? When she can be thrown out of the house on a whim? And if they want to get back together, sharia sez she must “marry” someone else, and get screwed by the new “husband”, and then *he* “divorces” her (talaq talaq talaq) and then she can go back to the old husband??? Aaaaah, the puuuuure morality of Islam! (GROSS).

      And as for your idiotic belief that non-Muslim women cheat on their husbands all the time…NONSENSE AND LIES. Methinks you are exaggerating just a bit, in order to justify your having converted to the Religion of Misogyny and the Religion of Blood and War.

      If, of course, you really *are* a stupid or evil western man who has converted to the religion of thuggery, rather than a born-and-bred mohammedan who is merely *pretending* to speak as a convert.

      • firestarter says

        May 28, 2014 at 4:02 am

        Dumbledorearmy, very well said!!!

    • Jacksonl03 says

      May 27, 2014 at 6:35 pm

      “This is one of the reasons I converted to Islam, because of the security of marriage it brings. Muslim women have to be faithful to their husbands, otherwise they . . . ”

      Get murdered by stoning?

      I can’t wait to hear what ever other “reasons” you might have for signing up to such a despicable belief system. Have you done any studies of Islam at all? Can you honestly say you believe all the crap contained in the Koran, et al.?

      Sounds to me like your brain is no more functional than your appendix. If as you allege: “Moderate Islam is the path towards the future, . . . ” Poor future; poor world. I’m certainly glad it won’t be in my lifetime.

    • Islamisdeath says

      May 27, 2014 at 9:08 pm

      I am Christian i have been married to the same man for over 20 years. Not because i was afraid of reciprocity if I left but because i choose to be.

      You are so typical of male converts you probably couldnt get a second date before you converted and if you did they didnt stay long. With islam you can just go to her daddy and buy her and she has to stay regardless of how repulsive you are or how nauseaous you make her.

      Christianity has all the answers so sorry you were pulled to satan.

    • Islamisdeath says

      May 27, 2014 at 9:08 pm

      I am Christian i have been married to the same man for over 20 years. Not because i was afraid of reciprocity if I left but because i choose to be.

      You are so typical of male converts you probably couldnt get a second date before you converted and if you did they didnt stay long. With islam you can just go to her daddy and buy her and she has to stay regardless of how repulsive you are or how nauseaous you make her.

      Christianity has all the answers so sorry you were pulled to satan.

    • gravenimage says

      May 28, 2014 at 1:20 am

      MuslimConvert wrote:

      I do not agree with those Muslims who think themselves to be little Allahs here on Earth, killing & stoning anyone who doesn’t agree with them. They are committing a major sin by employing Western-inspired absolutist thinking…
      …………………………………….

      What *utter crap*. Wife-beating and “Honor Killing” are not “Western-inspired absolutist thinking”—they are *perfectly Islamic*. Muslims who abuse women always do so on Islamic terms.

      Wife-beating, in fact, is *in the Qur’an*, and was practiced by the vile “Prophet”.

      More:

      Nor do I agree with the opposite position, giving women freedom to have sex freely and without consequences with whomever they choose.
      …………………………………….

      Notice he doesn’t mention men here. And why would he? Muslim men may “marry” and rape small girls, rape Infidel and “other sect” Muslim women while on Jihad, and keep sex slaves.

      Notice, too, that he characterizes this woman *marrying for love* as having “sex freely and without consequences with whomever they choose”.

      More:

      Moderate Islam is the path towards the future, and I pray to Allah (swt) that the West will eventually embrace Islam and stop its spiraling descent into amorality and chaos.
      …………………………………….

      There is no “moderate Islam”—there is only Islam, with its sacralized wife-beating, pedophilia, and forced marriages.

      And note: this pious Muslim considers Infidel society ‘amoral and chaotic’ for rejecting the horror of “marrying” second graders, allowing women to marry for love, and for rejecting polygamy, the “Triple Talaq” summary divorce (for men only), and wife-beating for women whom he merely *fears* disobedience. *Sickening*.

      The fact is that Dar-al-Islam is *far* more immoral and chaotic than even the worst parts of Dar-al-Harb—the hideous story above is just one example.

      More:

      It is well-known that in the West, men no longer know what it means to truly love a woman without experiencing much grief in the process. This is because Western society offers no guarantees of keeping the woman. In the West, whenever a richer, more handsome, more entertaining man comes along, the woman is free to cheat on her husband without consequences. This is one of the reasons I converted to Islam, because of the security of marriage it brings. Muslim women have to be faithful to their husbands, otherwise they are shunned by the whole community.
      …………………………………….

      “Shunned by the whole community”—oh, it’s often *much worse* than that. In Afghanistan and Pakistan, 75% of the women in prison are there because of “Hudud” laws—most of them have fled forced or abusive marriage.

      And in many parts of Dar-al-Islam, it is even worse than that—women are stoned to death. And even when that is not the official law of the land, as in this case, pious Muslim families can still stone their own daughters to death in “Honor Killings”.

      And again, this pious thug believes that this abuse should only apply to women, and not to himself.

      And his characterization of the free West is, as Dumbledore’s Army notes, a grotesque caricature in any case. I have always been faithful to my beloved husband—we’ve been together twenty-five years—and not because I fear that my husband or his family would “Honor Kill” me if I were not.

      More:

      Islam is a religion that addresses the grievances of single men everywhere. If you are single and want a wife to love you and treat you like her king, converting to Islam might be one of the decisions to take.
      …………………………………….

      Like most Mohammdans, “MuslimConvert” seems to confuse love and *fear*. This should come as no surprise, though—as I’ve noted, there is no love in Islam. *Ugh*.

    • Champ says

      May 28, 2014 at 1:48 am

      muslim convert is just another lost cause serving an evil cause: islam …

      islam be gone!

    • christopher says

      May 28, 2014 at 2:27 am

      Haha, it’s 2014 and you converted to a global misery-inducing cult whose founding beliefs include the sun orbiting the earth, flying donkeys and magical pedophiles.

      Well done, human, bravo!

    • firestarter says

      May 28, 2014 at 3:53 am

      ” do not agree with those Muslims who think themselves to be little Allahs here on Earth, killing & stoning anyone who doesn’t agree with them. They are committing a major sin by employing Western-inspired absolutist thinking, just like the communists who killed everyone who wasn’t communist enough. Nor do I agree with the opposite position, giving women freedom to have sex freely and without consequences with whomever they choose. Moderate Islam is the path towards the future, and I pray to Allah (swt) that the West will eventually embrace Islam and stop its spiraling descent into amorality and chaos.

      It is well-known that in the West, men no longer know what it means to truly love a woman without experiencing much grief in the process. This is because Western society offers no guarantees of keeping the woman. In the West, whenever a richer, more handsome, more entertaining man comes along, the woman is free to cheat on her husband without consequences. This is one of the reasons I converted to Islam, because of the security of marriage it brings. Muslim women have to be faithful to their husbands, otherwise they are shunned by the whole community. Islam is a religion that addresses the grievances of single men everywhere. If you are single and want a wife to love you and treat you like her king, converting to Islam might be one of the decisions to take.”

      MuslimConvert”, This has got to be the most IDIOTIC opinion I have ever come across. Firstly, I gather that you must be a male, since you do not agree or you strongly oppose women having sex freely or CHOOSING BY DEMOCRATIC RIGHT, who they want to be with.
      If you think, that Islam is the answer to the world’s problems, then you are just another one of those preaching the implementation of Shariah globally, and hence your severe intolerance for other people’s cultures and religions.

      Since you are a convert, was was the appeal??? What has it brought you??

      Your statement is not only irresponsible but insensitive to many who read these posts, and it is highly insensitive and intolerant of WOMENs’ DEMOCRATIC RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS!!!

      Where do you get the idea that stonging and honor killings are associated with the employment of Western-inspired absolutist thinking? Are you crazy? This is typical Islamist mentality. II know this because of work experiences and interactions I have had with Islamists.

      What makes you think Western Women are no faithful to their husbands and partners??? And even if they are not, SO WHAT??? It is a women’s prerogative, choice, and right to seek what makes HER HAPPY.

      By the way men cheat too. Do you have a solution in Islam for that???
      Guess not.

      No women should EVER be forced to be faithful. if there is a hot, well-off, intelligent, genuine and sincere man, who treats me better, and with respect than my husband/boyfriend, I will go full steam ahead. If my marriage/relationship is good, then it will continue.

      And yes, I do love my short skirts and heels, and by the way, I have achieved in my life because I am a Christian and I believe in democratic values—-respect. I am highly educated with a Phd, and yes I get highly mad, when I read posts like your which imply a submissive role for women.

    • Silvia says

      May 28, 2014 at 1:26 pm

      “Nor do I agree with the opposite position, giving women freedom to have sex freely and without consequences with whomever they choose.”
      *****************************************************************

      Who are you to “give” or “deny” anything? You think women are animals you lock in a barn and let them out occasionally when it suits you?

      “It is well-known that in the West, men no longer know what it means to truly love a woman without experiencing much grief in the process. This is because Western society offers no guarantees of keeping the woman. In the West, whenever a richer, more handsome, more entertaining man comes along, the woman is free to cheat on her husband without consequences. This is one of the reasons I converted to Islam, because of the security of marriage it brings. Muslim women have to be faithful to their husbands”
      ****************************************************************

      In short, you are a pathetic, psychologically weak man that has no self esteem, surely not enough to believe that you can have an equal, loving and faithful relationship with a non-muslim woman and feel so weak that for sure, you won’t be able to keep her, unless it’s at the point of a gun, the gun being islam and it’s threat of death at the slightest infringement.

      And you think THAT’s “love”?

      You didn’t need islam, you needed therapy to understand why you feel the way you do.

      You are proof that this abominable ideology attract all the mentally unstable, the miserable and angry. It re-enforces and glorifies all of man’s worst traits and and basest drives.

      Before converting, you should have asked yourself how come the worst hellholes on the planet are muslim countries. Why muslim countries are the most violent, most miserable, most backward and failing societies on earth.

      I feel sorry for you.

    • RG says

      May 28, 2014 at 2:18 pm

      To ‘MuslimConvert’ – O thou enlightened one! Dost thou also believeth that mohammed was-eth an exemplary man-eth???? Surely thou dost haveth so mucheth to teacheth us-eth!!!!

      Did you really say, ” This is one of the reasons I converted to Islam, because of the security of marriage it brings.” Wow! I really knoweth that thou hast really thoughteth that one througheth!!!!

      My friend, here’s a thought for you to consider–YOU CONVERTED TO ISLAM BECAUSE YOU DON’T HAVE EVEN HALF A BRAIN!!!!!

      If you want to learn about God’s love toward women–READ YOUR NEW TESTAMENT–you dumbass!!!!! Oh, I forgot, that would require you to have at least “half a brain”!!!!!

  13. Iris says

    May 27, 2014 at 3:45 pm

    This is wat “regular muslims” believe about stoning. A Muslim conference in Norway:

  14. Elise says

    May 27, 2014 at 5:50 pm

    There is no love or forgiveness in Islam, only liars, murderers and thieves who will be rewarded by Satan in the afterlife. As a Christian, it’s very difficult to actually pray for the Muslims who are so ignorant and believe everything they are told without question. For them, everything is God’s will and they will never find a cure for disease or create anything to improve life on earth. Their fake charities are really fronts for funding terrorists or laundering money.
    Most Muslims that I know from Indonesia, that live in the West, lack critical thinking skills and life skills. Most often, they are unable to make decisions and their children can’t handle the freedom that Westerners enjoy, because it requires self discipline, compassion and ordered liberty.

    • Semeru says

      May 28, 2014 at 2:32 am

      I actually live in Indonesia, so at a good guess I know a lot of moslem indonesian, and I can say you are talking a load of crap

      • firestarter says

        May 28, 2014 at 4:07 am

        I am afraid Elise has made a very good point. Islam is not a religion, it is something else, and it is not good.

    • Isabella says

      May 28, 2014 at 5:29 am

      I agree with you.

  15. Wellington says

    May 27, 2014 at 8:47 pm

    A la gravenimage, there is no love in Islam. Indeed, in the spirit of things if not the letter, it is haram and not halal.

    Well, just one more lethal error, courtesy of Islam. The lethal errors found in Islam are legion. I lost count long ago.

    • gravenimage says

      May 28, 2014 at 1:33 am

      Yes, Wellington. And remember the similar case in Sudan, where a Christian woman accused of apostasy (because her father, who abandoned the family when she just a small child, was Muslim) is imprisoned and under death sentence for “adultery” even though she has always been married to her Christian husband. Her babies are in prison with her, because they will not allow her husband—a “filthy Infidel” to care for the children.

      Just more proof that there is no true morality in Islam at all.

  16. Rezali Mehil says

    May 28, 2014 at 6:41 am

    This was really two deaths in one.

    Poor woman tried to save her baby – she knew only too late that that her becoming overwhelmed will not save the baby…the husband just stood by and watched….what a miserable wretch!!!

    I think that there was an ongoing fued between the woman’s family and the “husband”….really this example shows that there are many types of love …
    family love which is embraced with family and loyalty to it ….and is spread over many people…mother, father , brothers, sisters, uncles, Aunties…

    self love applies to just one person …where you have a full blown ego that in your mind over rides family love – to be with some nobody….in preference to the family ….well ….that is a yardstick that should by and large be ignored.

    Sadly her self love was overwhelmed by family love and family honor – which is supreme and lives today in all honorable societies – regardless of the circumstances …the kuffar could learn much about honor, family values from this.

    I know that you keep banging on Islam …but in this context these are peoples sorting out a mess and has little to do with Islam.

    It would however have been interesting to see via sensors the effect on the baby as the poor dear was overwhelmed….did the child feel the pain just like the parent?

    So Sad…so very sad…but then that is the Sunni for you?

    More Later…..

    Rezali

    • gravenimage says

      Jun 18, 2014 at 1:48 pm

      The repulsive Rezali Mehil wrote:

      This was really two deaths in one.

      Poor woman tried to save her baby – she knew only too late that that her becoming overwhelmed will not save the baby…the husband just stood by and watched….what a miserable wretch!!!
      ……………………………………..

      Actually, we have no idea from this story *what* the husband did. He may well have been under attack himself.

      In any case, though, notice that all of Rezali Mehil’s condemnation is for the husband—and *none*for the murderous family that actually killed her.

      More:

      I think that there was an ongoing fued between the woman’s family and the “husband”….really this example shows that there are many types of love …
      family love which is embraced with family and loyalty to it ….and is spread over many people…mother, father , brothers, sisters, uncles, Aunties…
      ……………………………………..

      And what is indicative of the love of “aunties” in Islam? Why, brutally slaughtering anyone who doesn’t toe the family line.

      The Mafia is often more civilized than the horrifying Muslim family. *Ugh*.

      More:

      self love applies to just one person …where you have a full blown ego that in your mind over rides family love – to be with some nobody….in preference to the family ….well ….that is a yardstick that should by and large be ignored.
      ……………………………………..

      Rezali Mehil believes that no one should marry for love, but that the Muslim family should be able to auction off their female chattel to the highest bidder.

      And she characterizes this murder and prostitution as “love”. She also conflates obedience fueled by threat and fear as “love”. This just further proves that pious Muslims have no real concept of love at all.

      More:

      Sadly her self love was overwhelmed by family love and family honor – which is supreme and lives today in all honorable societies – regardless of the circumstances …the kuffar could learn much about honor, family values from this.
      ……………………………………..

      *This* is what pious Muslims consider “family love”—stoning their daughter to death on a public street.

      Of, we Kuffar *have* learned much about family values here—that the term is twisted and utterly meaningless as it applies to the vicious Muslim family.

      More:

      I know that you keep banging on Islam …but in this context these are peoples sorting out a mess and has little to do with Islam.
      ……………………………………..

      What *absolute crap*. Rezali Mehil has just spent the previous part of her post delineating the appalling “values” of the Muslim family, and now says this has little to do with Islam!

      Note that civilized people do not resort to such bloody murder to ‘sort out a mess’—but Mohammedans do so on a regular basis.

      More:

      It would however have been interesting to see via sensors the effect on the baby as the poor dear was overwhelmed….did the child feel the pain just like the parent?
      ……………………………………..

      *This* is a glimpse into the mind of a pious Muslimah…*Ugh*.

      More:

      So Sad…so very sad…but then that is the Sunni for you?
      ……………………………………..

      Good God, what crap—this Shi’ite has condoned “Honor Killing” many times, including here—then she wants us to believe that this savagery is an exclusively Sunni phenomenon.

      Pakistan also has the largest Shi’ite population in the world after Iran—so there’s no guarantee that these *weren’t* Shi’ites.

      In any case, “Honor Killing” is rife in Shi’ite-majority Iran, as well.

      Article 220 of the Iranian Criminal Code states: “If a father –or his male ancestors– kill their children, they will not be prosecuted for murder”—just like the Sunnis.

  17. David says

    May 28, 2014 at 8:44 am

    I was listening to a show about this on the BBC last night & Islam was only casually mentioned. One Pakistani lady said stoning was not allowed in the Quran. We all know the truth, this case has EVERYTHING to do with Islam, so stop lying Rezali. Apparently Pakistan is split on this issue with about 50% of Pakis on social media saying this stoning was a good thing, which just goes to show what a backward cesspit Pakistan is. What do you expect though when you follow a 7th century backward cult whose perfect man was a crazy, mass murdering desert bandit & pedophile

    • RG says

      May 28, 2014 at 2:31 pm

      To ‘David’ – But, but, but it’s easier for Rezali to lie about mohammed than to admit that he was a “crazy, mass murdering desert bandit & pedophile”!!! Hmmm!!!!!

  18. tpellow says

    May 28, 2014 at 11:00 am

    Supplementary.

    “PREGNANT PAKISTANI WOMAN STONED TO DEATH BY FAMILY FOR MARRYING LOVER”

    http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/05/28/Pregnant-Pakistani-Woman-Stoned-to-Death-by-Own-Family-for-Marrying-the-Man-She-Loved

  19. tulsi says

    May 28, 2014 at 2:13 pm

    Dirty.filthy lusty muslims pretending to be religious are worse than animals.Western countries should ban them and not give visa to them.It is the worst clan on planet. Spit at them ,the whole world
    They can marry four times but dress their women as telephone booths.

  20. Walter Sieruk says

    May 28, 2014 at 2:50 pm

    To be a bit more clear to what I post a little time back today about stoning being but one of the many cruel heartless ways that Muslims engage in the vicious and malicious actions of ” honor killings” The heinous actions of these type of murders are also commited by the hidious and brutal ways of “Slitting the victims throat, hatcheting them, stabbing them, burning them to death, decapitation, buttlets to the head and chest, or by any other means imaginable.” [Source: THE MUST BE STOPPED by Brigitte Gabriel]

  21. George Kostanza says

    May 29, 2014 at 2:10 am

    I was astonished to see that the ultra left wing Islamic apologists covered this story. I was then equally astonished that they somehow managed to go thru the entire 5 minute video without mentioning the word “Islam”. That’s kinda like doing a story on the West Nile Virus without mentioning the word “mosquito”.

  22. David says

    May 29, 2014 at 11:21 am

    Not to worry George, the average Joe Public is putting two & two together & realising it IS Islam, despite the MSM white wash.

  23. bill says

    May 29, 2014 at 2:26 pm

    A Pakistani man demanding justice after his pregnant wife was murdered outside Lahore’s high court this week admitted on Thursday to strangling his first wife, in an admission that is likely to focus even more attention on the prevalence of so-called “honour” killings in the country.

    Muhummad Iqbal, the 45-year-old husband of Farzana Parveen, who was beaten to death by 20 male relatives on Tuesday, said he strangled his first wife in order to marry Parveen.

    He avoided a prison sentence after his family used Islamic provisions of Pakistan’s legal system to forgive him, precisely those he has insisted should not be available to his wife’s killers.
    The astounding thing here is that the murdered woman loved a man who had murdered his first wife. Makes one wonder does it not?

    • gravenimage says

      Jun 18, 2014 at 1:19 pm

      Good God…

  24. b says

    May 29, 2014 at 2:39 pm

    A Pakistani man demanding justice after his pregnant wife was murdered outside Lahore’s high court this week admitted on Thursday to strangling his first wife, in an admission that is likely to focus even more attention on the prevalence of so-called “honour” killings in the country.

  25. Rosa says

    Jun 3, 2014 at 3:09 pm

    Leave all men there
    and free the women’s and children
    and bring them into America!!

  26. Uduma Israel Ogbu says

    Jun 6, 2014 at 10:26 am

    We don’t need any prophet to know that those who don’t value their life will invariably not value other’s. The cases of over 896 women that were killed in like manner are piling up for the perpetrators on the judgement day and to the pakistani govt, they should’ve remained in the hands of Indians to see if they can legalize such acts.

  27. Uduma Israel Ogbu says

    Jun 6, 2014 at 10:47 am

    We don’t need any prophet to know that those who don’t value their own life will invariably not value others’. If they do, they could not have been used for suicide bombings. That’s how they are across the world, even in Nigeria. But the perpetrators fail to know that the cases of over 896 women killed in like manner just because they wanted to marry the man they love are piling for them till the judgement day. And to the pakistani govt, could they have been able to legalize such acts if they were still in the hands of India?

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