Fiyaz Mughal has long since been exposed as a liar: Andrew Gilligan reported in the Telegraph last year that Tell Mama, a group headed by Fiyaz Mughal, was not going to “have its government grant renewed after police and civil servants raised concerns about its methods.” What was wrong with its methods? It had “claimed that there had been a ‘sustained wave of attacks and intimidation’ against British Muslims after the killing of Drummer Lee Rigby.” But Tell Mama and Fiyaz Mughal “did not mention, however, that 57 per cent of the 212 reports referred to activity that took place only online, mainly offensive postings on Twitter and Facebook, or that a further 16 per cent of the 212 reports had not been verified. Not all the online abuse even originated in Britain. Contrary to the group”s claim of a ‘cycle of violence’ and a ‘sustained wave of attacks’, only 17 of the 212 incidents, 8 per cent, involved the physical targeting of people and there were no attacks on anyone serious enough to require medical treatment.”‘
Despite being thus exposed, Mughal took Liberty GB’s Tim Burton to court after Burton called him a “mendacious, grievance-mongering taqiyya artist” — which is exactly what Mughal is, and so he lost. And now he has lost again.
“Campaigner Fiyaz Mughal loses libel fight over Telegraph comment piece he said branded him a ‘Muslim extremist,'” by Dominic Ponsford, Press Gazette, May 7, 2014 (thanks to Pamela Geller):
The High Court has thrown out a libel claim brought by campaigner Fiyaz Mughal OBE over a Daily Telegraph comment piece which he said branded him a Muslim extremist.
Mughal is the director [of] Tell Mama, a group which monitors attacks on Muslims in the UK.
On 1 June 2013 the Sunday Telegraph carried a piece investigating Tell Mama which criticised the way it logged attacks on Muslims and claimed there had been an increase in such attacks after the murder of soldier Lee Rigby.
Mughal sued for defamation over a comment piece published in the Daily Telegraph on 15 June headlined: Woolwich outrage: we are too weak to face up to the extremism in our midst.
He said the piece gave the impression he was a “Muslim extremist…more extremist in his views and actions than the far-right extremists in the English Defence League” and a “hypocrite” who “falsely portrays himself as being anti extremist”.
In a judgment issued today Mr Justice Tugendhat quoted the principle under article 10 of the European Convention on Human Rights that there is “little scope … for restrictions on political speech or on debate on questions of public interest.”
And he also said that former Daily Telegraph editor Moore was entitled to criticise Mughal’s views without impugning his character.
The comment piece by Moore was published some three weeks after the murder of Rigby on a street in Woolwich by two Islamic extremists.
Moore said:
It is less than a month since Drummer Lee Rigby was murdered in Woolwich, yet already the incident feels half-forgotten…
..according to Tell Mama, an organisation paid large sums by the Government to monitor anti-Muslim acts, ‘the horrendous events in Woolwich brought it [Islamophobia] to the fore’. Tell Mama spoke of a ‘cycle of violence’ against Muslims…
Tell Mama equates ‘hate inspired by al-Qaeda’ with the ‘thuggery and hate of the EDL [the English Defence League]’.
Mughal’s claim centred on the following passage:
…you frequently find that Muslim groups like Tell Mama get taxpayers’ money (though, in its case, this is now coming to an end). You discover that leading figures of respectable officialdom share conference platforms with dubious groups. You learn that Muslim charities with blatantly political aims and Islamist links have been let off lightly by the Charity Commission. And you notice that many bigwigs in Muslim groups are decorated with public honours. Fiyaz Mughal, for example, who runs Tell Mama, has an OBE. Obviously it would be half-laughable, half-disgusting, if activists of the EDL were indulged in this way; yet they are, in fact, less extreme than some of those Muslims who are.
In his judgment Mr Justice Tugendhat said that the piece does not identify Mughal as one of those Muslims who Moore claims are more extreme than the EDL.
And he said: “The words complained of are part of a public debate clearly identified as comment, or the opinion of the author, to the effect that the views that the claimant expresses, and for which he has received public honours, are not violent views, but are views which tend nevertheless to have dangerous consequences. That is not defamatory of the claimant. The criticism is as to the effect of his views. It is not of his character.”…
inMAGICn says
My name Jose Jimenez…
So sue me.
Jay Boo says
Jose Jimenez ???
A strong likeness I must admit but no one under 50 years old remembers Jose Jimenez.
Younger folks made need to Google this.
inMAGICn says
Yeh, I know.
But if this guy doesn’t look like Bill Dana, what can you say?
mortimer says
65% of Sunnite Muslims want total Sharia law under a universal caliphate.
They are not ‘EXTREME’…they are ‘normative’ Sunnite Muslims.
An example of an ‘extreme’ Muslim cannot be found because jihadists are as normal to Islam as the Marine Corps is normal to the USA. ‘Moderate’ Muslims agree with jihad.
Mughal is a ‘moderate’, ‘normal’ Muslim because he believes in TAQIYYA, the art of deceiving the dirty kafirs whilst preparing to conquer them!
Salah says
Here, on JW, we talk a lot about “moderate Muslims” or “normal Muslims”. As we all know by now, there is no moderate Islam, therefore, there are no “moderate Muslims”. But there are a lot of Muslims who do not want sharia, who do not wage or endorse jihad, who do not know and/or do not care about Muhammad’s teachings, especially the violent ones. These Muslims want to pray five times a day, fast Ramadan and live in peace with the rest of the world. There are many of them. How should we call them?
I’d call them “nominal Muslims” (i.e. NOT true Muslims.)
I hope someone on this site comes up with a better identification. We cannot neglect this portion, they could be our best allies in this war against jihad.
Remember, most of them are living in Muslim majority countries. So, for them, public apostasy is not an option, at least, not yet.
Jay Boo says
No offense but
These Muslims who want to pray five times a day, fast Ramadan are part of the problem because they have tainted themselves with Islam’s dutiful vanity.
They are but Islamic slaves in waiting.
They must PROVE themselves worthy and therefore they are easy ‘pickins’ for exploitation beginning as soon as they make their first ‘Profession of Hate’.
When Muslims decide to tone down the ‘obligatory’ 5-a-day ritual and dress in clothes that are designed to segregate themselves from their non-Muslim neighbors by religion and begin to speak out against un-fixable Islam’s inherent violence then there will be hope of peaceful coexistence. After 1400 years they should know by now that Islam is rotting from within.
Salah says
“After 1400 years they should know by now that Islam is rotting from within.”
Deep inside, many of them know it. But FEAR is still holding them back.
When they feel safe enough, they tear up the Qur’an and urinate on it:
http://crossmuslims.blogspot.ca/2014/01/egyptian-muslims-tear-up-quran.html
Know Thy Enemy says
“How should we call them?
I’d call them “nominal Muslims” (i.e. NOT true Muslims.)
I hope someone on this site comes up with a better identification. ”
A better identification is: *Potential* true Muslims!
Lots of jihadis used to be ‘moderate Muslims’ before they got radicalized.
Charli Main says
All Muslims sing from the same song sheet. The only difference is that some sing louder than others.
Unless these Muslims leave Islam and adopt another religion or no religion, they remain Muslims and believers in the doctrine of the Koran and the teachings of the “most perfect man that has ever lived”.
We have many loyal and steadfast ex-Muslim supporters on JW.
They walked away from the evil of Islam, so can all the other Muslims living in “Western” nations. The fact that they don´t, shows that the are Muslims by choice not force.
Salah says
“A better identification is: *Potential* true Muslims!”
Indeed, they could be *Potential* true Muslims. But they also could be *Potential* apostates.
Elisheva14 says
There is a Facebook group called Apostates of Islam. I think Apostates are the people that truly left the religion. Those who follow the religion are potentially dangerous. If you are a Muslim, pray with Muslims and read the Koran you are still infected with the Ideology of violence and hate. It is like cancer. One can be in remission but as long as you have an active virus you are in danger of it getting out of control and spreading. I also see it like an addiction. An alcoholic can give up alcohol but he is always an alcoholic. As young children one is indoctrinated with an ideology of hate. It is very difficult to overcome this but not totally impossible. The brain washing is very powerful and they use technology to spread their messages today. This needs to be acknowledged and stopped. It is the only hope.
Isabella says
My question is how long is it going to take to the vast majority of people living in the West to realize what you wrote?
IQ al Rassooli says
Hi Isabella
I have been addressing these subjects PUBLICLY for at least TEN years and yet very few of our leaders have comprehended the enormity of the dangers of Muhammadan Islam to humanity that is NOT Muslim
Just Google ‘alrassooli’ and find out
It is up to You and other men and women of the public to DEMONSTRATE our concerns by attending rallies by the hundreds of thousands
IQ al Rassooli
Kafir & Proud!
Joeb says
It doesn’t matter that he’s losing cases – three in a row now for Fiyaz. The point is bringing them to court in the first place, and all that entails with people’s reputations being dragged through the mud, accused of racism etc like with Tim Burton recently.
What Fiyaz and his cohorts want to do is intimidate people into thinking twice about what they say or write about Islam, because they WILL take you to court on the flimsiest nothing. That’s the message – shut your mouth, Dhimmis, or else.
Fiyaz Mughal is on a special board advising the UK Crown Prosecution Service (The Crown Prosecution Service is the Government Department responsible for prosecuting criminal cases investigated by the police) about so-called hate crimes against Muslims. So no abuse of your position, there, Fiyaz? No, of course not…
Michael Copeland says
Excellent point: it was not, in fact, Mughal who “took Liberty GB’s Tim Burton to court”. It was a criminal trial: the obliging police prosecuted him for “racially aggravated harassment”, a crime. And we see that Mughal advises the police on what prosecutions to make: no conflict there, of course. The expense, in defending himself, is all Tim Burton’s. The taxpayer paid for the prosecution.
joeb says
I laughed out loud when I clicked on the link at the CPS London, and saw him on the list of ‘Scrutiny and Involvement Panel’ members:
http://www.cps.gov.uk/london/community_prosecutors/london_scrutiny_and_involvement_panel_members/
I’m beyond surprise anymore with Islam in the UK, but I honestly thought, “are we really THIS stupid?This wreckless?”. And there is also a hijabbed female muslim lawyer called Ifath Nawaz on it, who is considered to be one of the twenty most powerful muslim women in the UK – whatever that means. With these two, what could possibly go wrong?
IQ al Rassooli says
Fiaz in the UK emulates his Muslim friends in the USA called CAIR (Council on American Islamic Relations) who take anyone bringing to the Americans’ attention anything about Islam to court
No one has taken Fiaz to court for being a believing Muslim although being a believing Muslim makes him the enemy of ALL humans who are NOT Muslims called KUFFAR or INFIDELS in Muhammad’s Quran
For those who have little knowledge of the subject of Islam, Currently, Infidels/Kuffar/ Unbelevers/ Kafiroon represent 80% of humanity comprising ALL: Christians Buddhists Hindus Jews Atheists Agnostics etc; any and all those who are NOT Muslims
Since Sharia (based upon Muhammad’s Quran & Sunna) is Hate mongering Warmongering Disloyal Intolerant Duplicitous Misogynist Racist & henfce totally Ungodly, Firaz – and other Muslim leaders like him – should be taker to court for incontrovertible RACISM!
IQ al Rassooli
Kafir & Proud!
Michael Copeland says
Has anyone noticed the incestuous relationship between the UK government and these high-sounding Islamic entities? “Monitoring Anti Muslim Attacks” – the MAMA in TellMAMA – sounds fair enough, but then you discover it is taxpayer-funded: the government is the paymaster. Likewise Quilliam, billed as a “think tank”, produces public statements of just the kind the government likes to hear, about “problematical Islamism” versus Nice Peaceful Islam, and we find that they, too, were state-funded.
Thus does the government ensure a captive supply of approved statements from apparently independent sources.
joeb says
Don’t forget the somewhat amusingly named ‘Unite Against Fascism’ (will they change their name to ‘Unite Against Ourselves’? I won’t hold my breath…), also topped up with with taxpayer money, and David Cameron a founding signatory.
I think Hope Not Hate is one too, but I haven’t looked at the detail.
Walter Sieruk says
It needs to be stated that from the First century on the Christian Church had the Gospel of Christ, First Corinthians 15:1-8. In contrast, what Muhammad ending up giving the world was the Quran which is ,inreality, another gospel. Muhammad, at times, even claim that he got some of the information from and angle form heaven that eventually went into the composition of the Quran[other gospel] Such a thing as this was forseen and warned about in the Bible. For the Bible warns “Though we, or an angel from heaven preach any other gospel unto you let him be accursed. As we said before, so I say now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than ye have recived,let him be accursed.” Thus Muhammad stands accursed by the True God of the Bible.
Fuerhermore, Jesus did predict and warn about the coming of such men as Muhammad. For Jesus taught “Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.” Matthew 7:15. The Bible further warns that “many false prophet are gone out into the world.” First John 4:1. In conclusion, Muhammad was and is a deceptive lying false prophet who is accursed by God.
Moreover, an interesting Christian internet site I found concerning the Bible, the Quran and other things about Islam is the site answering-islam.org
somehistory says
I had a *Mama* and I’m offended that he named his group “Tell Mama.”
My Mama would not have wanted to hear a bunch of nonsense such as what he claimed.
Itinerant says
Charles Moore was one of the few in the British Press,who got it more or less spot on.
He saw the appalling and quite cowardly double-standards of most of the British political and media establishment, in the wake of yet another jihadist attack.
The MSM, “notably the BBC, quickly changed the subject”,a few days after the jihadist murder of the Drummer Lee Rigby and in their bizarre,politically-correct world of appeasement and cognitive dissonance, under the guise of protecting community-cohesion, Islamophobia and groups like the EDL were apparently the real problem.
As Charles Moore observed;
“It must feel particularly unpleasant for Muslims when its supporters hit the streets. But the EDL is merely reactive. It does not – officially at least – support violence. It is the instinctive reaction of elements of an indigenous working class which rightly perceives itself marginalised by authority, whereas Muslim groups are subsidised and excused by it. Four days ago, six Muslim men were sentenced at the Old Bailey for a plot to blow up an EDL rally. The news was received quietly, though it was a horrifying enterprise. No one spoke of “white-phobia”.
Or Westernphobia and violent, supremacist jihadi-ideology, inspired by Islamic scripture.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/10120706/Woolwich-outrage-we-are-too-weak-to-face-up-to-the-extremism-in-our-midst.html
Ross Stubbs says
He should be stripped of his OBE
dumbledoresarmy says
And of his UK citizenship.
And be sent back to Pakistan.
All he’s doing is conducting lawfare and running interference for his brethren, the Fast Jihadists, the advance shock troops/ Enforcers of the Ummah or Mohammedan Mob, the Allah Gang.
dumbledoresarmy says
Shoutout to the Daily Telegraph and the Daily Mail.
Suggested persons to invite to tag-team as columnists, commenting weekly on each week’s incoming “Jihad News”, or more generally on topics Islamic, as they see fit.
Ayaan Hirsi Ali.
Magdi Cristiano Allam (do a suitable deal with the Italian newspaper/s for whom he works).
Rev Dr Mark Durie, of Australia.
Professor (ret.) Hans Jansen, formerly of the University of Leiden.
Robert Redeker.
Raymond Ibrahim.
Robert Spencer.
Phyllis Chesler.
Last but not least, Bat Yeor.
(Does anybody else have any other suggestions as to who they’d like to see writing a regular column in a standard daily newspaper, anywhere within the Anglosphere…and beyond?).
For extra entertainment value and education purposes, invite Kurt Westergaard to collaborate with each author so as to dash off an illustrative cartoon for publication alongside each week’s column.
Alternate with a Famous Quotes column within which one may read what a famous person of the past had to say about Islam. Start with *the* Churchill quote, in full, as given in the original rather than as translated into modern English by Mr Weston. Then follow up with De Tocqueville, who had quite a bit to say about Islam – all of it intelligently and scathingly critical – and Voltaire…Voltaire who said of the Koran that it was “this unintelligible book, every page of which causes commonsense to shudder”. There’s *lots* of trenchant – and often witty – Islamocritical material out there, produced between the 16th and 20th centuries (inclusive), presently floating about in cyberspace, that needs to be tracked down to its original source and put out there – both on paper and online – under the flag of a major daily newspaper.