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Canada: Accused jihadi says Taliban had right to kill Canadians in Afghanistan

Jun 19, 2014 11:32 am By Robert Spencer

117049Ahmed0171.JPGMisbahuddin Ahmed’s statements are yet another indication of the practical consequences of Islam’s claims to constitute a global community (umma), the loyalty to which transcends all other loyalties. Imagine saying “You’ve got to look at it from their perspective.” about the Nazis as the Allied armies entered German territory in 1945.

“Taliban had right to kill Canadian soldiers in Afghanistan, terror trial accused testifies,” by Don Butler, Ottawa Citizen, June 18, 2014:

Taliban fighters in Afghanistan have the right to kill soldiers from Western nations, including Canadians, who invade their land, accused terrorist conspirator Misbahuddin Ahmed said at his trial Wednesday.

Ahmed made the comment during cross-examination by assistant Crown attorney Jason Wakely, who asked him if he thought Taliban fighters were entitled to kill Western soldiers.

“If they believe they’re resisting, then yes,” replied Ahmed, a 30-year-old former diagnostic imaging technician at The Ottawa Hospital. “You’ve got to look at it from their perspective.”

Whenever a country is invaded, he said, there will be resistance. “In Afghanistan, the resistance is the Taliban.”

Despite that, Ahmed said he didn’t think Canadian soldiers should be killed, saying many weren’t in Afghanistan by choice.

“The regular soldiers, the infantrymen, they don’t know what’s going on,” he said. “It’s not the soldiers’ fault. It’s the government that has taken the wrong position.”

Ahmed has pleaded not guilty to three terrorism-related offences: conspiring to facilitate a terrorist activity, participating in the activities of a terrorist group and possession of an explosive device.

The Crown alleges he was one of three Ottawa terrorist conspirators intent on committing “violent jihad” in Canada and abroad.

One of the three, Khurram Sher, has already been tried on one count of conspiracy to facilitate a terrorist activity and is awaiting a verdict later this summer. The third man cannot be named because of a publication ban.

During his cross-examination, Wakely asked Ahmed about conversations he had with his alleged co-conspirator, whom he first met in late 2009.

Ahmed acknowledged that he knew the other man’s objectives included facilitating serious acts of violence, driving Western forces out of Muslim lands and spreading Islam around the Globe.

He also agreed he’d been warned to stay away from the man because of his extremist views but forged a relationship with him anyway. The two became “Koran buddies,” meeting regularly to memorize Islam’s holy book.

“I felt like he was someone who seemed very sincere,” Ahmed explained in court. “It was just his character that I thought stood out.”

He was particularly struck by the way the man prayed at the Woodward Drive prayer group both attended daily. “I didn’t see anyone who was so concentrated.”

Ahmed has testified that he disagreed with his alleged co-conspirator’s support for violent jihad and only wanted to form a group with him to hold “rational discourse” on jihad’s theological questions.

But Wakely pointed out there was little in secretly recorded conversations between the two to support that idea.

“When you had a chance to disabuse (his alleged co-conspirator) of his misguided beliefs, you didn’t,” Wakely said. “You didn’t actually try to change his views at all.”

It was clear the man’s views were extreme, Ahmed replied, but he hadn’t wanted to confront him “dead on. That’s not my personality.” Instead, he made “subtle references” in hopes of influencing the other man.

Earlier, defence lawyer Mark Ertel completed his examination of Ahmed. Part of it focused on the transfer of a bag containing circuit boards, a transmitter and jihadist videos to Ahmed from his alleged co-conspirator.

Asked by his lawyer why he took the bag and its contents, Ahmed replied: “To destroy it.” But that never happened.

Ahmed testified that he left the bag in the trunk of his car for about 10 days while he tried to figure out how to dispose of it.

He considered smashing the contents with a sledgehammer or throwing it off a bridge, but couldn’t find the time because of other commitments.

When his family made a visit to Montreal, he moved the bag to a storage room in his basement to make room in the trunk for a stroller, he testified. That’s where police found it when they arrested him on Aug. 25, 2010.

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  1. logdon says

    Jun 19, 2014 at 3:28 pm

    Maybe we should follow his advice only in our countries?

    Nobody asked them to come and we were not consulted on whether they were wanted.

    Had they integrated like any other immigrant wave we wouldn’t be having this conversation but they haven’t and adding insult to injury, tell us they won’t.

    Add in the violence and disruption and its a perfect recipe for unrest.

  2. mortimer says

    Jun 19, 2014 at 11:16 pm

    Sharia forbids a kafir from defending himself against a Muslim whether the Muslim is right or not. The kafir should not fight even if he or his family are killed by mistake.

    NATO soldiers pursuing terrorists in Afghanistan are thus defying Sharia by fighting Muslims who wish to come to Western cities and shoot and blow up civilians because they have the wrong religion.

  3. Jerry says

    Jun 21, 2014 at 5:00 am

    Islam = a fake religion
    invented by a fake “prophet”
    as part of a recruitment campaign
    for caravan robbers and slave capturers

    Kaffir = a label invented by the fake prophet
    to stigmatise the intended victims to
    paint them, in inaccurate translation
    as “infidels”, more accurately “deniers
    of the (allegedly true) faith, thus disguising
    the fact that robbery and plunder were
    plainly criminal acts against the usually
    innocent, sometimes strangers and
    other times just people of different
    customs.

    Allah = A label for the Islamic fake God,
    alternatively a deliberate and dishonest
    attempt to convince the gullible Jihaddi
    recruits that an Almighty Creator of
    all life and all diversity, has turned his
    back on all the rest of his creation
    in order to allow the fake prophet and
    his followers to plunder, rape, enslave
    and murder in his name, thus practically
    abdicating in favour of the fake prophet.

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