This is the Britain that Tony Blair, Gordon Brown and David Cameron have given to the world. This is the Britain that Jack Straw, Jacqui Smith and Theresa May have helped come into being. This is the Britain that bans freedom fighters from its shores, while appeasing and accommodating Islamic supremacists. This is Britain, the dying civilization, pusillanimous in its death throes.
“More Brits signing up to fight with jihadist militants in Iraq and Syria than for the UK Army Reserve,” by Tom Mctague, Daily Mail, June 17, 2014:
More British citizens signed up to fight in Iraq and Syria than joined the Army Reserve last year, it can be revealed.
Just 170 extra reservists enlisted over the past year – despite a Government target to boost the stand-by force by 11,000 by 2018.
But at the same time the brutal al-Qaeda inspired ISIS forces tearing through Iraq have been boosted by ‘several hundred’ Brits, ministers told MailOnline.
Terror experts believe there could be as many as 500 Brits fighting alongside the jihadists in the Middle East for ISIS (Islamic State in Iraq and Syria).
A senior government minister said: ‘There is a real problem about people going in and being radicalised and then coming home. There are several hundred who have gone from Britain that we know of. It is a worry.
‘To get to Iraq most of them will have to go through Syria, so the two are connected.’
Foreign Secretary William Hague yesterday admitted Brit will ‘inevitably’ be fighting alongside ISIS which he called the ‘most violent and brutal militant group in the Middle East’.
He said the majority of Isis’ members were Iraqi or Syrian but ‘it also includes a significant number of foreign fighters among its ranks’.
Mr Hague said: ‘As I have previously told this House, we estimate the number of UK-linked individuals fighting in Syria to include approximately 400 British nationals and other UK-linked individuals who could present a particular risk should they return to the UK.’ He said ‘some of these, inevitably’ are ‘fighting with’ Isis.
Shadow defence secretary Vernon Coaker said he revelation was humiliating for the country and needed to be tackled.
Mr Coaker said: ‘The government’s own figures show more UK citizens are joining ISIS than signing up for the Armed Forces Reserves. This is shameful, embarrassing and will cause deep concern.
‘We need to see action to ensure recruitment to the Armed Forces meets the targets set. Otherwise, Britain will be left with a dangerous capability gap.’
In the whole of 2013 the number of British Army reservists actually fell by 50 to just 19,150 at the start of the year.
Over the 12 months to April this year – a period during in which the Government claimed recruitment had improved – the number of reservists in Britain increased by just 170.
The Army’s stalling recruitment drive comes despite a pledge to raise the numbers of reservists to 30,000 by 2018….
john spielman says
a most uncivil war in the UK draws closer and closer between those who cherish freedom and democracy, and the barbarian hordes who favor the butchery of Islam and sharia law
carlos danger says
When that day comes, it will be very useful to have knowledge of and access to modern infantry weapons. Just sayin’
WVinMN says
The British govt. (and therefore the people themselves) doesn’t trust the citizenry, as evidenced by the wholesale forsaking of liberty that has taken place over their during the last three decades. No one should be surprised that said citizenry doesn’t give a damn about defending the UK. When it comes down to it, most British citizens amount to nothing more than renters. They have no skin in the game and that’s exactly how they like it.
pumbar says
I dare you to come to the North West of England and say that.
Keith says
What a load of rubbish. You really have no clue as to the awakening here regarding our Muslim population.
These mutants come back here and kick off we’ll give them jihad alright.
Slobbering Fits says
Nope just back from there There is no fight left in them .4 days never heard english spoken on the street except by Americans . Nothing worth getting blown up for is the general feeling in the UK and Eurabia .Islam is just dandy over there .
Pumbar says
How do you know there is no fight left in us if you never talked to us?
Brazooka says
I hope that’s true because otherwise the jihadists will win by default.
Charli Main says
There is no such thing as a British Muslim. This is a life choice that Muslims themselves make and is not down to the “racist” British.
Muslims, even those born in Britain, have absolutely no intention of adopting or adapting to the British way of life or British society.
The only objective of Muslims living in Britain is to imprint their language, culture and religion on Britain´s non Muslims, initially by stealth and eventually by force.
Muslims that attempt to become British usually end up getting murdered by those who still subscribe to the Religion of Peace.
Ashley says
I’ve got a bad, bad feeling.
There is an open call on all social media platforms to join ISIS. The propaganda videos are presented in many languages, including English. Their objective? To recruit ONE BILLION jihadists to join the fight.
http://www.channel4.com/news/isis-iraq-social-media-jihad-billion-campaign-recruit-video
Mirren10 says
Ashley, I really don’t see why you would think this is *bad*.
Me, I think of it as flushing the quislings into the light of day.
The more of them that go, the less traitorous scum actually *in* our country, wiggling and sliming and boring into our body politic and social.
What worries *me*, is the idiotic, daft, and suicidal policy of **letting them back in**.
I’ve spent a long time today, writing **proper letters**, to the ‘powers that be’, pointing out the folly, stupidity, and downright **death wish** nature of the current stance on these scum.
May I suggest you do likewise? (Perhaps you already do so; if so, my apologies.)
Perhaps our letters do no good; on the other hand, who knows into whose brain a litle fertile seed might fall ? I’m a cynical old bat, but even **I** don’t believe **all**lettersfrom the public are automaticaly binned; there are votes to be won, after all ! 🙂
mortimer says
The destruction of patriotism is what we are seeing. The Leftards have had there evil, gleeful destructive rampage against Western values of democracy and freedom…and THIS is the result: barbaric TOTALITARIANS TAKING OVER THE WORLD and TERRORIZING FREE COUNTRIES!
This should convince British LEFTARDS to change their course or the ship of UK will go aground in an orgy of ISLAMISM.
Ashley says
I fear it is too late, Mortimer.
Perhaps I’m just having a cynical moment, but those horses got out of the barn long ago.
joeb says
Things will get worse before they get better, but they will get better. And that means we win. The time when it could be done entirely lawfully and peacefully may well have passed – it’s hard to tell, I hope not. We may have some more time left to do it this way. Those advocating this approach all these years were brushed aside with accusations of “racism” and “bigotry” by the cowardly political and media establishment. And now the authorities in the near future may have to deal not only with the jihadists, but the non-muslim terrorist groups who will emerge to fight them, if things gets that bad in the UK.
There was a big ramp-up in the protestant paramilitaries in Northern Ireland after Bloody Friday in Belfast – 26 car bombs in 80 mins by the IRA. Imagine that? If jihadists do a similar atrocity/ies in the UK, then they will get it back in truckloads, and then some – you watch. And that will be the fault of the politicians and media for not listening to sensible people years ago. They could end up turning the UK into Northern Ireland on steroids.
RobUK78 says
While I admit that identifying the problem and acting on it seems to be something the British struggle to do, you have to remember why we are struggling. The Europeanism that has so bedeviled our society, with it’s creed of cosmopolitanism and multiculturalism has taken control of nearly every institution. Any dissent has been met by cries of racist and xenophobe. Nobody has had a voice to say no.
But maybe that is changing. When UKIP stormed to success last month in the EU elections it did so against a back drop of almost continual smearing and accusations of racism. Yet, the higher the pitch of the attacks went, the higher the share of the vote for UKIP climbed. Nobody listened to the usual suspects and I suspect that tactic has seen its last day.
I bring up the EU and UKIP because I believe that our future survival depends solely on our getting out of the EU. The obvious argument is that Britain will be subsumed by EU federalism and that is true. But I mean that the EU is the vehicle with which Core Europeanism is spread. All those lefty ideas that damage the state and its identity come from it and are enforced by it. You cannot get rid of them without getting rid of the EU.
A poll by YouGov recently showed that the vote for In or Out of the EU is evenly split. BUT! Those who voted also stated that they wanted no further integration, or a looser relationship. Practically nobody wanted to be part of a EU Superstate and they will not vote for it. The European elite will not accept Britain if it does not conform and may well kick us out. Either way Britain has to accept Europeanism or reject it and leave.
Rome wasn’t built in a day, I just think that maybe the first bricks are being placed.
Mirren10 says
Good post, Rob.
Arjay says
At various anti-Jihadist sites I will see articles and comments about “who cares” if any of the Western European states fall to Islam or reach a Muslim population majority. These nations have “only themselves to blame” for the sky rocketing crime, oppression of minorities and indigenous whites, economies that crumble under the parasitic Muslim welfare whores… and countless other problems.
Folks, remember Lebanon in the 1950s? Beirut was called the Paris of the Middle-East. This primarily Christian nation then began letting in more and more Muslims into their borders. Then as the percentage of Muslims continued to grow… the nation began to fall apart.
Then the “native” Lebanese Muslims turned traitor. Turning on their fellow Lebanese… they sided with the hordes of Muslim refugees that had poured into Lebanon over the years.
Before his assassination in the early 1980s… the Christian President Gemayel was actually ruler of what? A few square miles of a Beirut turned to rubble?
Now imagine this. And it is happening to Belgium, Switzerland, Sweden, The Netherlands, Germany, France, Ireland, the UK… and Western Europe falls like dominos.
Will the Europeans actually FIGHT for their homelands? Will they take up the necessary arms (yes, no guns- but bats, knives, molotav cocktails… ANYTHING) to save their precious Europe?
Will European Royal families try to flee? What of white and non-Muslim minority refugees? Who will take them in?
The economic powerhouse that is Europe will not be able to survive in the hands of Muslims. The Islamists are lazy, welfare guzzling slime… and we expect them to control Nuclear Power Plants, Dams, Farms, Industries… and the Business Districts of Europe?
Worse yet… France and the UK are NUCLEAR powers. If there is an Islamic coup and their militaries are taken over… Islamists would then control the Nukes of Western Europe.
What of a Vatican City surrounded by a Muslim Italy? If this happens- the Eastern Orthodox churches in most of the Middle-East will be extinct.
What of European scientific, educational and artistic treasures and institutions?
At what point will the common Brit, Flemish person, Swede or Irishman stand up and fight back? What of non-Muslim minorities? Would a black Christian woman from Jamaica whose ancestors served the British Empire want to live under Islam? Or the Hindu Indian… fleeing Islamic African states or dictatorships like Uganda… would they want to move yet again or would they fight for their European way of life?
It is one thing to have a European economy and leftist leaders being hostile to Israel. There is still trade and Israel has a great way to make bridges and new friendships on the international stage. Yea, Europe doesn’t want Israeli products and technology… but India and China does.
But this is different than if the entire of Europe becomes Muslim. The Jewish population of Europe and Israel itself would be in great peril. Its one thing to have leftists in Parliaments, anti-Semites on European University campuses… its an entirely different thing to have the governments and militaries be in Muslim control.
Would Americans, Canadians, Australians, New Zealanders and our friends in Latin America and non-Muslim Asia actually go to war to rescue Western Europe? And what would the Eastern Europeans do?
By the time this happens all the whites, Asians, mixed-racial Coloureds and Christian blacks in Southern Africa would probably all be dead or expelled.
Will Thailand, Myanmar and the Philippines have succumbed to Islamic control? Would South Korea, China and Japan ally together to stop the Islamic scourge in Asia… and would India fragment YET AGAIN- having another portion break off to be a “self governing” Islamic state… like Pakistan and Bangladesh did decades ago?
Will Russia and China fall back on their nations harsh pasts and finally- not eliminate, but exterminate the Islamic threat? And do so without continuing such behavior to other aspects of their societies?
Muslim populations are skyrocketing in Latin America and Muslims are in Mexico. Plenty of Jews in Cordoba, Buenos Aires, Rio deJaniero and Santiago to be sitting ducks.
When I see articles that state that more British nationals have joined the Jihad than the British military reserves… be afraid. Be very afraid.
Charli Main says
Arjay
you make an interesting and much overlooked point. I have always been at a loss to understand why Britain´s non Muslim immigrant communities allow themselves be consistently be blamed for the behaviour and activities of the Muslims infesting Britain.
and that’s exactly what happens every time a Muslim rape or murder gang is described in the MSM as ” Asian” or ” immigrant”.
Why aren’t these folk out on the streets with banners ” don´t blame us for what Muslims do “. Why aren’t they suing the BBC and National Press for dumping Muslim sh*t on them. ??
gravenimage says
I agree, Arjay—I always find it troubling when people just write off whole countries—or sometimes all of Europe.
Even if one were to care *nothing* for Brits and Europeans—and I am certainly not one of them—can you imagine the would that would leave for the rest of the Infidels? The terrible effect it would have on America, on Canada, on Australia and New Zealand and the rest of Dar-al-Harb?
Moreover, while Britain and Europe are quite a bit further down the road of dhimmitude than we in the US are, we heading in the same direction. And dealing with an Islamophied Europe would probably push a lot further down it.
The truth is that there isn’t a single nation that isn’t riven with dhimmitude, though some are worse than others. This is something we *all* have to deal with. We could be comparatively cocky here in America until the clueless populace *twice* elected a born Muslim to the White House—but no more.
Notice that Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller haven’t given up on Britain—they are still fighting the Shari’ah ban on their travel there.
I suggest we join hands with British and European Anti-Jihadists and fight on as well.
Isabella says
If I were a UK politician I would want the introduction of a law that would say that if you go fight jihad you are unfit to live in a Western democracy where religion does not dictate legislations. Consequently, you would loose your British citizenship and you would have to move out of UK.
RobUK78 says
Theresa May has started taking British Passports from dual passport holders who have been to Syria. She might have liked the idea of depriving more of their passports, I have no idea, but she would have been stopped by the EU anyway.
Gardener says
It’s not very surprising. Not everyone who goes to Syria is even particularly entrenched in extremism. A lot of them are misguided youths, but as Muslims they join the jihad circus instead of becoming radical leftists or something of that ilk. If you’ve seen the glossy brochures put out by ISIS in recent times, they present a front that will appeal to impressionable youth. They have nice pictures and descriptions of their seminaries and everyday businesses and the general happiness they bring to people as they fight against the oppressors and improve society. They obviously don’t use the brochures to describe their extortion rackets, summary executions, persecutions of various peoples, and feuds with other jihadis. They fight for the good, you see, and it’s all on the up-and-up. There are naive young Muslims trying to find their way in the world and then getting sucked from not even being religious into the black hole of radicalism. They haven’t learned yet that reality is not what you see in the brochure.
gravenimage says
Gardener—with respect—I think this is too rosy a view. Were this the case then Muslims would be returning to the West in droves loudly condemning ISIS and the other Jihadists, and urging other Muslims not to go.
Instead, there have been horrifying stories of “Western” Muslims committing atrocities.
And further, all too many of them have wound up plotting to bring the same kind of hell here.
If some Muslims *have* been disgusted by violent Jihad, they have been damn quiet about it…
Moreover, there have been
Wellington says
The fact that they are UK citizens to begin with represents the greater part of “the problem.”
eib says
Citizens can be labeled traitors.
And traitors, by tradition, have no rights in Britain.
No, not even to life.
Accuse every Brit fighting in Syria and Iraq of treason. Now.
jewdog says
As the Russian historian Mikhail Rostovstev concluded in his Roman history, every great civilization or empire is founded by an elite group of people who understand a certain set of ideas that make their enterprise tick. Eventually, however, success brings expansion, and with expansion there comes inclusion of more people who may not understand those principles. For example, Rome was democratic and cohesive when confined to the Italian peninsula, but as it rapidly expanded to include northern Europe and Asia it conferred citizenship and voting rights to people who lacked any knowledge of what democracy meant. Rome then devolved into an autocratic empire riven by civil wars and eventually collapsed.
Europe is making the same mistake. It has succeeded in forming a fairly cohesive democracy. Not content with merely consolidating its own gains, Europe then decided to admit massive numbers of non-Europeans, including millions of Muslims. After all, if native Europeans could understand democracy, why not Syrians or Algerians?
The rapid influx of 20 million or so Muslims into Europe has demonstrated the folly of this facile thinking. Now the Europeans are starting to wake up to their mistakes. They have been too confident about the resilience of their culture and not discerning enough about the impact of Islam.
I says
Agree with you.
Isabella says
I agree with you.
Wellington says
I agree with all you say except for ancient Rome being a democracy. It never was, not during the Early Republic (c.509-270 B.C.), not during the Middle Republic (c.270-133 B.C.) and never during the Late Republic (c.133-27 B.C).
voegelinian says
jewdog didn’t say Rome was a democracy.
Mirren10 says
He said, ‘Rome was “democratic and cohesive” (which it wasn’t, but let that psss).
That implies a democracy, does it not ?
RobUK78 says
I am not sure that resilience of culture is the correct way to frame it. In truth I am of the opinion that the entire experiment that is Europe is one based more on the idea of diluting ALL cultures into one larger entity. The proponents of this would argue that by creating a “local” community, continent wide and consisting of many different people, they will break down the divisions that make us see the “other” as different, by exposing us to the differences. We will then live in peace and harmony.
Like most thinking that comes from the left for want of a better word, this idea fails first contact with humans. The philosophers and fellow travelers may be perfectly happy to expose themselves to the “other” at work and will brag about it while having dinner with friends, but even they will never be found living in an enriched area. Everybody else who can will take to white flight. That is the Europeans. The incoming immigrant population is even less able or likely to “expose” themselves and will cluster. Then we have Islam which rightly sees this as weakness and takes advantage of the invitation.
The cheerleaders for this madness will never admit that they are wrong. It is impossible that this experiment can fail and if it does they will blame it on the right for throwing a spanner in the works. They can only be defeated politically and the damage that is already done will be a royal pain in the arse to sort out.
Forget just kicking them out. Imagine Islam had mobilised its forces and was threatening Paris with an army of millions. Imagine Britain had called up its youth to fight once more on the fields of France and we know that the Muslim youth would refuse the call up. The left would support the Muslims and cry foul if they were interned. Now imagine the uproar if police started dragging women out of houses tomorrow! The left would have a field day.
The way to beat them is more subtle. First you get out of the EU. It is the vehicle with which all these ideals are implemented and enforced. Next you neuter the state media by cutting its funding and discrediting it. Then you satisfy public opinion by drastically cutting the number of new immigrants and stopping benefits to those immigrants who come. Ensure that the immigrant is of use to the nation and make them invest effort, time and money in the venture.
In 2014 the United Kingdom Independence Party won the EU elections and now forms Britain’s largest contingent of MEP’s, they went on to make massive gains in the local UK elections and came second in an election for a seat in Parliament.
In 2014 The British government made it be known that the BBC could expect rough time of it when the Charter is negotiated in 2016. The argument put forward was that hard working families could ill afford to pay such a large fee. The BBC has been discredited in a number of scandals involving fraud, cronyism and even pedophilia. It is now widely accepted that the BBC is biased towards the left.
In 2014 opinion polls showed unanimously that immigration is the number one issue that concerns voters. They would support a tough immigration policy and the end of benefits for immigrants by a massive majority.
I can’t speak for the Europeans, because I am not one of them. I am British and my energy must be devoted to Britain first. But I am sure that Britain will not be a member of the EU in five years. I am sure that when the light of day finally hits Europe the first rays will inevitably warm the glorious fields of England.
P.S I know the Muslim hordes are already threatening Paris 🙂
Mirren10 says
Again, good post.
I damn well hope you’re right. In any case, a bas
l’islam ! Meet you on the barricades !
Tom W Harris says
You said “citizens,” heh heh, heh heh.
tpellow says
Robert,
Your opening comments, above, are spot on.
The pusillanimous response of the U.K (and West) to the spreading violent power of certain Islamic forces, globally and in Europe, is indeed enabling the Islamization of Nations.
If ever ‘Stop the Islamization of Nations’ (SION) is needed, it is now:-
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/08/sion-stop-islamization-of-nations-forms-international-activist-leadership-team-the-sion-presidents-c
dumbledoreasarmy says
I have a different thought.
Suppose that Islamoawareness is seeping in amongst the general citizenry, including among not a few young men – and women – of military age.
Suppose such persons also observe the fact that idiotic rules of engagement are getting and have been getting British soldiers *killed* in Afghanistan.
Islamoaware young persons will probably also be well aware of the *futility* of getting involved in “nationbuilding” ventures in Muslim hellholes like Iraq or Afghanistan.
They may be choosing not to join the Army Reserve for the simple reason of not wanting to be …shall we say…called up and wasted on fool’s errands.
I would advise such people to consider the police force, instead; though they may have to keep their opinions to themselves until there are enough of them in the force.
Let every American here present ask themselves – if they were aged between 18 and 30, would they enlist in the US Army or Army Reserve, *right now*, knowing what they know about Islam, about Obama, about assorted debacles in Afghanistan, Iraq, etc?
ensitue says
Britain is Doomed
Eliza says
We, Eastern Europeans will fight for our European way of life. Poland along with other European countries crushed The Ottoman Empire and Poles will fight again if it’s needed. It’s better to die than live in muslim caliphat