His lawyer claimed that he was entrapped by an undercover agent. So try a thought experiment: what if you were approached by an undercover agent, who tried to cajole you into plotting to commit mass murder? What could he offer you as an incentive? At what point would you agree? The big hole in all these claims of entrapment is that for most people, there isn’t anything in the world that would lead them to join a terror plot. Why did Ahmed Abassi agree to do so? And will he be deported back to Canada or Tunisia?
“Tunisian man gets plea deal for Amtrak terror plot,” by Rich Calder, New York Post, June 3, 2014 (thanks to Pamela Geller):
A Tunisian man charged in an unsuccessful plot to derail an Amtrak train en route from Penn Station to Toronto copped a plea Wednesday to less serious immigration charges.
Ahmed Abassi, 27, avoided terrorism charges by pleading guilty in Manhattan federal court to lying on his visa application and to immigration officials when asked why he flew to the United States in 2013.
“I stated on my visa application that my intention was to enter the United States to engage in business” as a real estate agent, Abassi told Judge Miriam Cedarbaum. “I lied because my entire purpose was to return to Canada.”
Abassi, who previously lived in Canada, “radicalized” one of the alleged train plotters, Chiheb Esseghaier, and met with him in New York City after traveling here in mid-March of 2013, prosecutors said last year in court filings. An undercover agent recorded both men discussing a plot to release bacteria in the air or water to kill up to 100,000 people. [sic] the feds said.
Abassi faces up six years in prison at sentencing on July 23 but could be released from jail and immediately deported if Cedarbaum agrees to a defense request for time served. His lawyer, Sabrina Shroff, claimed the undercover agent entrapped her client.
Abassi had faced up to 50 years in prison on terror charges.
The plea deal is a far cry from how Manhattan US Attorney Preet Bharara previously portrayed him in a statement last year in which he referred to Abassi as radical planning to “commit acts of terror and develop a network of terrorists here.”
Mirren10 says
”His lawyer claimed that he was entrapped by an undercover agent. So try a thought experiment: what if you were approached by an undercover agent, who tried to cajole you into plotting to commit mass murder? What could he offer you as an incentive? At what point would you agree? The big hole in all these claims of entrapment is that for most people, there isn’t anything in the world that would lead them to join a terror plot.”
Exactly. This sort of ‘defence’ merely underlines the utter moral vacuity of not only mohammedans, but the dhimmi infidels who choose to represent them in court, such as the disgusting, reprehensible and complicit, Sabrina Shroff.
”And will he be deported back to Canada or Tunisia?”
Canada should refuse to take him.
Send him back to Tunisia, and let him get on with murdering his own kind.
Salah says
“This sort of ‘defence’ merely underlines the utter moral vacuity of not only mohammedans, but the dhimmi infidels who choose to represent them in court”
Agree, but a moral, honest and well informed judge should be the first one to blame.
Seth says
Dig that third eye prayer bump he’s got going on. Evil buffoon.
Jay Boo says
I am not trying to proselytize here just noting a quote …
“If anyone worships the beast and his image and receives his mark on the forehead or on the hand, he, too, will drink of the wine of God’s fury, which has been poured full strength into the cup of his wrath.” Revelation 14:9,10
richardl says
I find that an incredibly interesting piece of information. In Egypt, the Christians call the Mohammedans “devil worshippers”, but they do not connect it to that passage from the Bible.
I have seen zebibas where the bacteria-fungi-virus mix had eaten into the bone.
Why any Western country lets anyone with a zebiba in, I do not understand.
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
Yeah, he’s got the bull’s eye bruise going on, and the target is the center of his brain, where lives a belief in the Cause. The Cause is of course the obliteration of all other belief system’s except his, and the lack of Moslem world domination here in the early 21st century has left him bruised.
His goal was 33 times bigger than that of Osama bin-Laden, or Obama bin-Sodom, or whatever the hell the guy’s name was, but that guy got death for his mass murder of Infidels crime and this guy could get only 50 yrs for his intended mass murder of Infidels crime.
I say could because the judiciary and the gubmint will do whatever is within their power to let the guy off. Deportation would be best, but a stretch in a Dawa House would suffice, so long as it’s not too lengthy. Wouldn’t want to offend any Unicorns; they’re an explosive bunch, you know.
Jay Boo says
What kind of plea deal would he have been offered by one of the Islamic countries (that criticize the West for Islamophobia) if he had plotted this terrorist attack over there.
Jay Boo says
against said Islamic country.
mortimer says
Terrorists should all be deported or if born in the country, should automatically lose their passports and citizenship.
Charli Main says
Another misunderstander of the religion of peace.
Muslims have been misunderstanding their religion for 1400 years. Muslims must be pretty stupid, because even after 1400 years, they still haven´t got it right—–or have they???
Michael Copeland says
“Abassi “radicalized” one of the alleged train plotters”.
And how did he do that? Surely this would be of interest to Theresa May and David Cameron, concerned to “de-radicalize” those problem muslims, without knowing how to do so.
Could it be anything to do with that book that says “Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them”?
Jay Boo says
After 911 Islam pandering liberals were cornered by reality.
Naturally, whenever reason and logic gets the upper-hand they fall back and load up on denial with conspiracy theories and false equivalence to hold off the wave of cognitive dissonance threatening to short circuit the willful ignorance of their hard-wired brains.
Owen Morgan says
I recently read “Alger Hiss: Why He Chose Treason”, by Christine Shelton. She quotes Alexander Vassiliev on why leftists don’t accept that Hiss was, as the abundant evidence proves, a traitor: “Hiss is a religion.”
Eight years ago, I pointed out on an Amazon forum that “global warming” had all the attributes of a cult, too. Naturally, I was excoriated for my trouble, but time has demonstrated that I was perfectly right.
Now we see leftists displaying all the signs of unthinking religious dogma in defence of a creed (i.e. the muslim one) to which they don’t even subscribe. It must be the first time in history that the concept of a cult has itself become an object of veneration, to people who insist that they profess no religion, but who bow down in superstitious awe of the cult and insist that others do the same.
Michael Copeland says
De-radicalizing remains an important component of UK policy. The trouble is that the government does not know what it is. See “Deradicalisation”
http://libertygb.org.uk/v1/index.php/home/root/news-libertygb/5744-deradicalisation
Jay Boo says
If Ahmed Abassi had tried this stunt against his home country of Tunisia his only plea deal would have been to allow him to plea for his life before his head was turned into a makeshift soccer ball.
Eric quigley says
Notice when these aholes become “radicalized” they never smile? I believe it’s the in dwelling of evil within them.
John spielman says
that’s because” there’s no fun in Islam ” to quote the now dead rotting Khomeini of Iran
mariam rove says
to quote the now dead rotting Khomeini of ….
Hi John! Years ago this was a shrine for Iranians to go to. They no longer allow anyone in there. What has been happening in the last few years is that a lot of Iranians put feces in socks and once they were there throw them at his grave!! M
Ashley says
Thank you for this post, Robert.
I’m not sure if it has been discussed here on JW, but I think it is important to note that Abassi pursued an education in chemical engineering while attending university in Quebec. In other words, Abassi may very well have possessed the knowledge to pull off a stellar attack.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/u-s-terror-suspect-studied-chemical-engineering-at-quebec-university-1.1333162
Weeks after Abassi’s sinister plot was revealed, The Quabbin Reservoir was breached by seven “trespassers.” All seven trespassers were from international “hotbeds” and all had studied chemical engineering in Massachusetts.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/people-cited-breaking-boston-area-reservoir-article-1.1346261
The timeline of all this strikes me as beyond coincidence. Abassi’s plot, the marathon bombings, and the Quabbin incident all occurred within weeks of one another.
It continues to chap my hide that the seven trespassers, identities never revealed, were charged with the misdemeanor of simple trespassing and sent on their way.
Now Abassi, claiming a desire to destroy 100,000 lives, could face up to a mere six years on immigration violations.
Something isn’t right here…
Michael Copeland says
The Quabbin trespassers were inside the off-limits area AFTER MIDNIGHT. Vigilance is needed. See “Attacks on Utilities”:
http://libertygb.org.uk/v1/index.php/home/root/news-libertygb/6314-attacks-on-utilities
Ashley says
Michael…thank you for the link.
I lived in Belchertown at the time of the trespassing incident. I was gobsmacked that these “trespassers” were permitted to drive home after a brief interrogation. The country was still reeling from the marathon bombing only a few weeks earlier…
The Silicon Valley power attack was clearly an act of terrorism. It, too, exposed the vulnerabilities of our infrastructures.
Spooky stuff.
Again, thanks for the link. I’ve bookmarked it.
Jerry says
And the USA still holds on to and would not
release Johnathan Pollard!