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Muslims in Rochester, NY “find it hard to believe” accused jihadi “is Muslim”

Jun 3, 2014 4:14 pm By Robert Spencer

Sareer Fazili, President of the Islamic Center of Rochester, said, “Our religion is one of peace and one of submission and I think all of our friends in the faith based community know that.” He added: “I’m very shocked, I’m very upset, very disappointed that somebody who claims they follow Islam, the same religion that has been taught for so many years would think that he is within the bounds of our teachings because nothing could be further from the truth.”

He’s shocked? Really? Shocked to hear that someone who professes to be a Muslim would commit an act of violence? Has Sareer Fazili never heard of 9/11? 7/7? The Bali bombing? The Boston Marathon bombing? The Fort Hood massacre? Or any of the thousands of other jihad attacks perpetrated by people who not only profess to be Muslim, but say that when they bomb and kill they are following the teachings of Islam?

It would be one thing to condemn Elfgeeh’s jihad plot, disavow him, etc., but to profess shock strains credulity. It would be refreshing if Fazili had bothered to explain exactly how Elfgeeh was violating the teachings of Islam, but once again, no such luck. Note also that Fazili says that Elfgeeh had never been a member of the Islamic Center. That may be, but it is noteworthy how these devout Muslims — Elfgeeh “tweets about the prophet Muhammad and terrorist groups fighting in the name of Allah” — never seem to go to mosque. Every time there is a jihad attack or plot in the U.S., local Muslims say that no one knew him, he never went to mosque — and yet by their own words these people are fanatically devout and observant.

Anyway, relax: “members of the Islamic Center say these beliefs are foreign and are not what is taught at their center.” Great. So do they teach against these beliefs, which are so widespread as to not really be shocking at all, at the Center? Do they teach young Muslims why they should reject the al Qaeda view of Islam on Qur’anic grounds? Why are there no such programs anywhere? And why does no one ever ask why?

“Local Muslim community speaks out regarding threats against Muslim community,” by Lynette Adams, WHEC.com, June 2, 2014:

A Rochester restaurant owner from Yemen is accused of plotting attacks against U.S. soldiers and local Muslims.

Investigators say their suspect expressed interest in killing soldiers who were returning home and also spoke about hurting members of the Muslim community in western New York.

Mufid Elfgeeh was arrested at the Hudson Avenue Walmart over the weekend. He was in court Monday where he was accused of buying weapons from an informant. He is also the owner of the restaurant MoJoe’s on North Clinton Avenue.

The local Muslim community is speaking out about these threats. Despite the news of Elfgeeh’s arrest and his plans to hurt members of the Muslim community, Muslims in Rochester find it hard to believe Elfgeeh is Muslim.

Sareer Fazili, Islamic Center of Rochester President, said, “Our religion is one of peace and one of submission and I think all of our friends in the faith based community know that.”

Sareer Fazili heads the board that runs the Islamic Center of Rochester. As he heard the details of Mufid Elfgeeh’s arrest, he says nothing could be more disturbing than hearing his claims to practice Islam.

Fazili said, “I’m very shocked, I’m very upset, very disappointed that somebody who claims they follow Islam, the same religion that has been taught for so many years would think that he is within the bounds of our teachings because nothing could be further from the truth.”

Fazili says he does not believe Elfgeeh has ever been a member of the Islamic Center. Beth Al Fayad says it wouldn’t be the first time someone used religion to justify his or her own purpose.

Beth Al Fayad, Rochester Muslim, said, “I think you can find this in any religion. You find people who distort the message to carry on with their own purpose. You saw this during slavery. People used Christianity to justify slavery.”

The Rochester native says she hopes people continue to see Muslims as no different as any other Americans.

Al Fayad said, “We’re proud to be American, I have an American flag hanging outside my door. We love this country and we love being a part of America and part of the Rochester community in particular. We are just as much a staple as any other religious community anywhere else and we’re just trying to go about our lives just like everybody else.”

According to court documents, Elfgeeh tweets about the prophet Muhammad and terrorist groups fighting in the name of Allah, but members of the Islamic Center say these beliefs are foreign and are not what is taught at their center.

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  1. Champ says

    Jun 3, 2014 at 4:24 pm

    Aw, the “religion of peace” exposed–again! …yes, the ugly truth about islam is rising through the phony smoke ‘n mirrors display.

    • mariam rove says

      Jun 3, 2014 at 4:29 pm

      yuo mean the so called religion of peace, right? M

      • Champ says

        Jun 3, 2014 at 4:37 pm

        Right! 🙂

    • jihad3tracker says

      Jun 3, 2014 at 5:10 pm

      JUST REMEMBER ONE BASIC FACT —

      C.A.I.R. GETS IN TOUCH IMMEDIATELY WITH EVERY — REPEAT, EVERY — SPOKESMAN WHO IS INVOLVED WITH ANY MUSLIM VIOLENCE OR CRIME.

      WHY ? TO GET THE LIES AND THE EXPLANATION COMMUNICATED.

      C.A.I.R. HAS ITS “EMPLOYEES” CONSTANTLY TALKING AND EMAILING FOR THESE DEFENSIVE MANEUVERS.

  2. richard Sherman says

    Jun 3, 2014 at 4:26 pm

    Obviously clueless Fazili has never read the Koran or he would know that the SOCIOPATH MUHAMMAD WHO PERSONALLY DECAPITATED 900 UNARMED JEWS and kidnapped and enslaved approximately one thousand Jewish girls and women is every Muslim’ s role model…ie…if you emulate a sociopath you are a sociopath/Muslim…

  3. Tom W Harris says

    Jun 3, 2014 at 4:36 pm

    Yeah, he’s shocked and revolted. Riiiiight.

  4. Wellington says

    Jun 3, 2014 at 4:39 pm

    Fazili and good ole’ Beth (short for “Elizabeth,” a Greek version of the Hebrew name “Elisheba”—-better watch it, Beth, having a Jewish name like that) are either ignorant of their religion or they are lying about it. There is no third alternative.

    • dumbledoresarmy says

      Jun 3, 2014 at 5:56 pm

      re. “Beth”.

      My guess is that this “Beth” – a “Rochester native” (i.e. born in Rochester) is a *convert*.

      American-sounding first name, second name “Al Fayad”.

      Result of dawah and “marriage jihad”? Non-Muslim women don’t *have* to convert in order to marry a Muslim, but plenty of the damnfools *do*.

    • voegelinian says

      Jun 3, 2014 at 6:26 pm

      There are different types of ignorance. There is pure ignorance — simply not knowing. Then there is that curious psychological state of semi-willful ignorance — half knowing, half in denial.

      Then there is our problem: even if we grant that innumerable Muslims are ignorant in either or both of the above ways, we cannot sufficiently distinguish them — on a macro scale (the only scale that is important for our safety) — from the ones who are doing taqiyya.

      Given Dev’in Elisa’beth Fayad’s Facebook page, it sure looks like ignorance.

      https://www.facebook.com/devin.fayad

      Then there’s another FB page of an “Ann Schneider Fayad” — an older white (Jewish?) woman who has a youngish Anne Bancroft vibe (her photo is among those on Dev’in Elisa’beth’s FB page). Given that Dev’in Elisa’beth looks mulatto, we may perhaps infer that Ann Schneider married a black Muslim.

      https://m.facebook.com/ann.schneiderfayad

  5. Charles Vyne says

    Jun 3, 2014 at 4:54 pm

    Obviously Fazili thinks that we all do not know “Taqiyya” is (the Islamic concept of deception of non-Muslims, that they have used in the past 14 hundred years). So he is very comfortable lying to the Infidel/kufar. For those non-Muslims who do not know the meaning of Taqiyya, there are literature on the internet that would explain this concept.

  6. KrazyKafir says

    Jun 3, 2014 at 4:55 pm

    The carriers are always shocked.

    • gravenimage says

      Jun 4, 2014 at 6:55 pm

      Actually, I very much doubt this “shock” is genuine.

  7. Foolster says

    Jun 3, 2014 at 5:06 pm

    I can’t resist posting this:

    • Wellington says

      Jun 3, 2014 at 5:37 pm

      Perfectly apropos, Foolster. Thanks for the clip. Of course, Claude Rains was a shrewd and ultimately good guy in Casablanca (though a delightful rascal). Not so for the excuse-making Muslims in Rochester. Seems Muslims are very good at two things——violence and excuses——and there’s nothing delightful at all about them. They are devoid of delightfulness as they are of so many other positive traits.

    • bettina says

      Jun 5, 2014 at 1:11 pm

      “I’m shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here!” — Casablanca.
      Nice equivalence, Foolster 🙂

  8. Guy Macher says

    Jun 3, 2014 at 5:11 pm

    Ali Fazzi Mohameddan whatever could shovel some of that under my rose bushes. Sunni is good but Shiite is best!

  9. Joseph says

    Jun 3, 2014 at 5:17 pm

    Interesting bedfellows indeed. Fazili and Pope Francis say exactly the same thing about Islam.

    Fazili: “Islam is a religion of peace…”

    Pope Francis: “Authentic Islam and the proper reading of the Koran are opposed to every form of violence” [Evangelii Gaudium #253].

    Go figure.

  10. Tradewinds says

    Jun 3, 2014 at 5:19 pm

    “Sareer Fazili, President of the Islamic Center of Rochester, said, “Our religion is one of peace…”

    Just can it with the bullsh- Muslim. Islam has nothing whatsoever to do with peace. Islam is the opposite of peace. Islam is war, conquest and mass-murder.

    • Richard says

      Jun 3, 2014 at 7:52 pm

      Islam IS a religion of peace, but people need to understand what THEY mean by it. The “dar al-Islam” is the realm of “peace” (i.e. where Islamic law prevails), and is contrasted to the “dar al-harb”, understood as the “region of war” (wherever Islamic law does not prevail).

      • logdon says

        Jun 4, 2014 at 9:22 am

        And even that formula doesn’t work, viz Syria, Libya, Iraq et al ad nauseum.

    • bettina says

      Jun 5, 2014 at 1:23 pm

      You know what keeps coming up for me when I see on that a sick American has just killed other Americans? Darned shame that he didn’t target a jihadi instead! And, if he loves blood so much, send him to Syria, Afghanistan or any other islamist hellhole, and let’er rip!
      Most of these mass or spree murderers wind up killing themselves anyway, so what’s the diff? It’s an obsession with me: go and shoot up some stinky muzzie ass, for a change!

  11. Angemon says

    Jun 3, 2014 at 5:50 pm

    “A Rochester restaurant owner from Yemen is accused of plotting attacks against U.S. soldiers and local Muslims.

    Investigators say their suspect expressed interest in killing soldiers who were returning home and also spoke about hurting members of the Muslim community in western New York.

    […]

    The local Muslim community is speaking out about these threats. Despite the news of Elfgeeh’s arrest and his plans to hurt members of the Muslim community, Muslims in Rochester find it hard to believe Elfgeeh is Muslim.”

    Maybe it’s just me, but when i see someone talking about killing soldiers returning home i’m surprised if they’re NOT muslims. Damn empirical knowledge…

    “Beth Al Fayad, Rochester Muslim, said, “I think you can find this in any religion. You find people who distort the message to carry on with their own purpose. You saw this during slavery. People used Christianity to justify slavery.””

    What a load of bullcrap. Not only she fails to mention how Elfgeeh supposedly “distorted” islam (and he’s just one among many, many “distorters” all around the world) but she also tries to play the false moral equivalence card. Christian organizations were behind the anti-slavery movement from the get go (and seeing how islam allows slavery it’s odd that she chose that example, but that’s another matter) but there’s no record of any muslim organization openly preaching against the “distortion” of islam by people like Elfgeeh. In fact, not long ago, several american muslim organizations couldn’t bring themselves to excommunicate Boko Haram, and the ahmadi sect, who renounce offensive jihad as it is interpreted by the likes of Elfgeeh, are considered heretic and deemed non-Muslims by the mainstream/orthodox muslim sects.

    “We are just as much a staple as any other religious community anywhere else”

    Well, muslims are the reason the US got a Navy in the first place. The US needed to protect their ships from muslim pirates whose ambassador told Thomas Jefferson that they were attacking american ships because such behaviour was mandated by muhammad in the quran.

    • dumbledoresarmy says

      Jun 3, 2014 at 6:11 pm

      I don’t know how much time you might have had to explore the archives.

      But here, just for you, and for any others who have joined the forum in the past four to five years, is a classic from the jihadwatch archives.

      To wit, the inimitable “Hugh Fitzgerald”, on “Muslims and America”.

      http://www.jihadwatch.org/2008/08/fitzgerald-muslims-and-america.html

      “Fitzgerald: Muslims and America

      “We have a message: Muslim Americans are as American as apple pie” – from this article in The Guardian about Muslims at the Democratic National Convention in Denver

      “If Muslims are “as American as apple pie,” are they as American as pumpkin pie, the pumpkin pie traditionally served at Thanksgiving, which like Independence Day, Memorial Day, and other national holidays, are not to be observed by observant Muslims, for only Muslim holidays, Muslim history, Muslim everything, counts?

      “And one more question.

      ” If Muslims have no trouble at all being “as American as apple pie” then surely they have no trouble viewing the defining document of the American polity, the Constitution of the United States
      , as worthy of their complete loyalty.

      “And that includes, of course, the guarantees of individual rights in the Bill of Rights.

      “And since the Bill of Rights is so very close, in so many of its key provisions — freedom of speech, freedom of conscience (which naturally includes the right to apostatize) — to the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, can we conclude that American-as-apple-pie American Muslims find it puzzling that all of the Muslim countries (save for the Shah’s Iran, and most temporarily and temporizingly) have failed to subscribe to the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, and instead have concocted a Muslim version, the so-called Cairo Declaration, which in every essential respect, involving individual rights, fatally vitiates the original, Universal Declaration?

      “These people can carry on all they want with their bromides, and their pledges-of-fake-allegiance, but to the precise extent that they are True Believers in Islam, and Defenders of the Faith, to that exact extent they cannot conceivably owe their allegiance, above what Islam commands and prohibits, to the American Constitution…”.

      Click on the link. Read the rest.

      • Larry S. says

        Jun 3, 2014 at 8:40 pm

        Thank you for posting the link to Hugh Fitzgerald’s article.

      • Angemon says

        Jun 4, 2014 at 7:45 am

        Thank you! That was definitely a worthwhile reading. And that’s one of the reasons to why it’s good to have long-time regulars who know their stuff around 😉

  12. Andy says

    Jun 3, 2014 at 6:05 pm

    “I think you can find this in any religion. You find people who distort the message to carry on with their own purpose. You saw this during slavery. People used Christianity to justify slavery.”

    Nice deflection, imam. Trying to deflect a scrutinizing public away from your own sick cult by tossing out the slavery card; thus the race card and hoping the white guilt will take over and we’ll move along… nothing to see here.

    He doesn’t mention that slavery is still alive and well in the muslim world and sanctioned by the quran which is the true and exact word of their evil god, and mohammed was the perfect man, etc etc etc.

    • Larry S. says

      Jun 3, 2014 at 8:46 pm

      Andy-

      Moreover, I think it is historically accurate to say that Christianity’s insistence that all people had a soul was to a considerable extent responsible for the Christian world eliminating slavery. Unlike Mohammad, Jesus, the apostles, and St. Paul did not own slaves. True, early Christian doctrine did not specifically forbid owning of slaves, but neither did it specifically sanction it, as did Islam.

    • BW022 says

      Jun 4, 2014 at 4:03 am

      Every religion…

      Can anyone find an example of an act of terrorism committed by a Jain? How about a Buddhist blowing up a bus? How about the Amish blowing up a train? Can anyone name an atheist who said “There is no God” while tossing a hand grenade in a daycare center? How about a Quaker group going to fight infidels in some other country?

      The idea that all religions are equally violent is utter bull. Religions are different. Expecting that religions with different belief systems, texts, concepts, leaders, etc. would be exactly equally violent is just beyond silly.

      • bettina says

        Jun 5, 2014 at 1:33 pm

        Here’s another equivalence, BeeDub:
        Ever heard of a Jew blowing up a German café?
        Add that to your list of absurd analogies…

      • Oliver says

        Jun 5, 2014 at 1:50 pm

        I agree, BUT WHAT IS (OR ARE) JAIN?

        JW is the only place I have ever seen this.

        Thank you

        • JeffS says

          Jun 5, 2014 at 2:32 pm

          Jainism /ˈdʒeɪnɪz(ə)m/, traditionally known as Jaina dharma (Sanskrit: जैन धर्म),[1] is an Indian religion that prescribes a path of non-violence towards all living beings and emphasizes spiritual independence and equality between all forms of life.

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jainism

        • bettina says

          Jun 6, 2014 at 12:56 pm

          Oliver, it seems to be a very peaceful, honorable religious sect in India.
          See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jainism for a good description.
          I try to google names I don’t know before asking our Watchers here.

  13. nabi sange says

    Jun 3, 2014 at 6:05 pm

    Religion of peace??? Good lie, Mr. Fazili.

    • dumbledoresarmy says

      Jun 3, 2014 at 6:20 pm

      He did add “submission”.

      Quote – “Our religion is one of peace and one of submission..”.

      “Submission”.

      To what, by whom?

      Because although mohammedans in the west make a lot of noise about how they “submit” to “god” (i.e allah), what they don’t tell people is that their cult is *also* “the religion of domination”.

      That it’s all about *dominance*-and-submission; or, to put it crudely, S & M, to the nth degree. Masters and Slaves.

      That the grand Muslim project involves a dream of Muslim men dominating and domineering over *everybody* else; the Ummah or Mohammedan mob dreaming of, and assiduously working towards, Total World Domination, toward achieving a state of things under which alpha muslim males will be able to get their jollies from stamping down HARD – with big spiky boots – on the faces of every other human being on earth.

      • Wellington says

        Jun 3, 2014 at 7:30 pm

        Yes, dda, you are quite correct to focus on the “submission thing.” Explore Islamic submission to its core and you will find rot and trouble aplenty.

        No one of sense and knowledge should ever accept the submission element of Islam as a neutral, or what would be even worse, a positive. It’s a negative all around, for Muslims and kuffaars both (especially the latter of course).

      • gravenimage says

        Jun 3, 2014 at 9:40 pm

        All very true, DDA—Muslims may “submit” to Allah, but they also do all they can to make everyone else *submit to them*.

      • mortime says

        Jun 4, 2014 at 8:41 am

        Quote – “Our religion is one of peace and one of submission..”.

        Islam is a euphemism for slavery.

        They are all expressing ‘opinions’ about Islam, rather than quoting authorities concerning jihad.

      • bettina says

        Jun 5, 2014 at 1:39 pm

        If only those other faces could be limited to those found in the muzzies’ internecine wars… We wouldn’t mind so much, right?

      • bettina says

        Jun 5, 2014 at 1:54 pm

        I guess submission = kowtow to the utmost evil and bestiality found in islamic scriptures, and expel every vestige of decency right out of your system.
        The end result? Turn “submission” on its head and dominate all others wherever you find them. So submission is really the taqiyya word for domination. How twisted is that?! Monkey jumps up, contorts itself, and lands back down in the form of a monster.
        Better than any Goth surrealism, ain’t it.

  14. JS says

    Jun 3, 2014 at 7:14 pm

    Mr. Fazili, if you read this blog, then I’d like to make a suggestion… If that’s how you sincerely feel, then turn to your fellow muslims and tell them to work harder in showing peace and love.

  15. wes says

    Jun 3, 2014 at 7:35 pm

    Maybe he’s shocked that a Muslim would want to hurt other Muslims, since that is not taught, is it? But of course, he wouldn’t make that distinction to the press.

  16. Tradewinds says

    Jun 3, 2014 at 8:08 pm

    “You must be able to define your enemy to defeat him, and you must be able to define yourself to defend yourself against him.”

    General Douglas MacArthur
    Supreme Allied Commander, Pacific

  17. gravenimage says

    Jun 3, 2014 at 9:29 pm

    Muslims in Rochester, NY “find it hard to believe” accused jihadi “is Muslim”
    …………………………………….

    Well, of course! This Jihadi is far more likely to be a Unitarian, a Reform Jew, or a Seventh Day Adventist than a *Muslim*, of all things! That’s just common sense! sarc/off

    More:

    Sareer Fazili, President of the Islamic Center of Rochester, said, “Our religion is one of peace and one of submission and I think all of our friends in the faith based community know that.”
    …………………………………….

    What misleading tripe. The “submission” is only submission to the will of Allah. In every other way, Islam is all about *forcing others into submission—women, children, tribal and Muslim minorities, the weak and vulnerable, and, *especially*, Infidels.

    But then, the islamic Center of Rochester has *always* counted on the ignorance of well-meaning Infidels. On their *interfaith* page back in 2005, they blatantly posted this verse from the Qur’an:

    Guidance from the Qur’an
    Those who disbelieve in the
    Reminder when it comes
    unto them (are guilty), for
    indeed it is an unassailable
    Scripture. Falsehood cannot
    come at it from before it or
    behind it. (It is) a revelation
    from the Wise, the Owner of
    Praise” (Al-Qur’an 41:41-42)

    http://www.theicr.org/Forms/Newsletters/2005%2002%20(February).pdf

    In other words, they are openly condemning Infidels as “guilty” on the same page that they have such Taqiyya-filled crap as this:

    March 7 (Monday) Jihad and Extremism: Christianity and Islam

    The news media have turned “jihad” into a scary word, practically synonymous with terrorism. Actually the concept, which means “striving”, has a deep spiritual as well as a political dimension not only in Islam but also in
    Christianity. The seminar explores these dimensions, working comparatively from one religion to the other.

    March 14 (Monday) Violence and Terrorism: Christianity and Islam

    The practice of Violence and Terrorism is alarmingly increasing in the world as a mean of settling issues. What is the perspective of the two religions on Violence and Terrorism?

    This lecture series is co-sponsored by the Muslim Catholic Alliance.
    …

    Of course! It’s *the media* that’s turned Jihad into a scary word! It’s certainly not like, say, 9/11 had anything to do with it…sarc/off

    More:

    He added: “I’m very shocked, I’m very upset, very disappointed that somebody who claims they follow Islam, the same religion that has been taught for so many years would think that he is within the bounds of our teachings because nothing could be further from the truth.”

    He’s shocked? Really? Shocked to hear that someone who professes to be a Muslim would commit an act of violence? Has Sareer Fazili never heard of 9/11? 7/7? The Bali bombing? The Boston Marathon bombing? The Fort Hood massacre? Or any of the thousands of other jihad attacks perpetrated by people who not only profess to be Muslim, but say that when they bomb and kill they are following the teachings of Islam?
    …………………………………….

    Oh, he knows, all right. Here’s whining from the very New England-sounding “Westfall Academy”, which is actually an Islamic school run by the Islamic Center of Rochester, from back in 2007:

    Fatima’s Corner
    Today’s Topic: Importance of Interfaith
    Programs

    At the ICR, we have many interfaith programs. Why do we have so many of them? Because these programs are vital to the acceptance of our society and Muslims all over the United States.

    These days, the media and the actions of some Muslims aren’t necessarily leaving a great impression on the people. The only way that we can correct this impression is by teaching others about what Islam really is. How can we do this? By having interfaith programs. I myself have been to many of these interfaith programs
    and helped out when people from other religious communities visit our masjid. Almost
    every time, at least one person asked about our views on the terrorist attacks of September 11. This gives us an opportunity to show them that Islam is really a peaceful religion, and not the violent religion that the media portrays it to be.

    http://www.theicr.org/Forms/Newsletters/ICR%20June%2007%20newsletter.pdf

    If you ever had a sneaking suspicion that the main purpose of all that “interfaith dialogue” was simply Taqiyya and the whitewashing of Islam, this confirms it.

    More:

    “Local Muslim community speaks out regarding threats against Muslim community,” by Lynette Adams…
    …………………………………….

    Now *that’s* an interesting title. Notice the whole focus here is not on his targeting American soldiers, but the *Muslim community*.

    More:

    Investigators say their suspect expressed interest in killing soldiers who were returning home and also spoke about hurting members of the Muslim community in western New York.
    …………………………………….

    This last part makes is sound as though Elfgees is just nuts, and equally intent on hurting Infidel and Muslims.

    But the people he is targeting are likely *other sect* Muslims—considered heretics. And this is *perfectly* Islamic. This is the root of all the Sunni/Shi’ite violence we see so much of.

    More:

    Beth Al Fayad, Rochester Muslim, said, “I think you can find this in any religion. You find people who distort the message to carry on with their own purpose. You saw this during slavery. People used Christianity to justify slavery.”
    …………………………………….

    More false moral equivalence. Good people also used Christianity to *end* slavery in the West. Of course, slavery has *never* really ended in Dar-al-islam, because Islam is sacralized in islam. There is, in fact, a disturbing *resurgence* of slavery in the Muslim world right now.

    More:

    Al Fayad said, “We’re proud to be American, I have an American flag hanging outside my door. We love this country and we love being a part of America and part of the Rochester community in particular. We are just as much a staple as any other religious community anywhere else and we’re just trying to go about our lives just like everybody else.”
    …………………………………….

    Ah—right. Not only is Mufid Elfgees a part of that “community”, but so are the Tsarnaev brothers (the Boston Marathon Bombers), Malik Nidal Hasan (the Ft Hood shooter) and so many other fine Jihadists in America…

    More:

    According to court documents, Elfgeeh tweets about the prophet Muhammad and terrorist groups fighting in the name of Allah, but members of the Islamic Center say these beliefs are foreign and are not what is taught at their center.
    …………………………………….

    Notice they never quite get around to saying how this is not orthodox Islam…

    • bettina says

      Jun 6, 2014 at 1:27 pm

      Graven,
      Oh, you Destructor of Lies!
      The oxymoron about islamic terrorism being un-islamic does reign supreme, doesn’t it.
      When those Mo-worshipping, allahu akhbaring monsters attack infidels and each other, they’re actually foreign agents, extra-terrestrial humanoids, maybe even Klingons…

      • Petey says

        Jun 6, 2014 at 10:41 pm

        Actually from what Ive been reading its always the evil jooooooos lol

  18. Kasey says

    Jun 4, 2014 at 3:33 am

    Fazili should consult Jihad Watch daily to become more aware of what his religo-ideology is all about~ Maybe Islamoreality would be more than he could stand!

    • gravenimage says

      Jun 4, 2014 at 7:07 pm

      Kasey, Fazili *runs an Islamic center*. This is far more likely Taqiyya than ignorance here.

  19. Angemon says

    Jun 4, 2014 at 7:50 am

    Here’s another event that would “shock” and “disappoint” mr. Fazili:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhVYocjL6u8

    Now, i don’t want to jump into conclusions, but we need to account all possible scenarios, so maybe the police should ask the husband of the attacker if he somehow praised the 9-year-old girl to his current wife.

  20. mortimer says

    Jun 4, 2014 at 8:38 am

    -Ibn Taimiyyah (1263 – 1328) one of the greatest Muslim scholars:

    “Jihad against the disbelievers is the most noble of actions, and moreover it is the most important action for the sake of mankind.”

    -Narrated by Ahmad in his Musnad/114 :

    A man asked the prophet: “…And what is Jihad?” He replied: “You fight against the disbelievers when you meet them.” He asked again: “What kind of Jihad is the highest?” He replied: “The person who is killed whilst spilling the last of his blood.”

    Yes, jihad has “NOTHING TO DO with Islam”…sure.

  21. Michael Copeland says

    Jun 4, 2014 at 9:33 am

    In sincere kindness someone could communicate to reporter Lynette Adams what one of Islam’s most important theologians, Al Ghazali, advised:

    “Understand that lying is not wrong in itself. If a lie is the only way to achieve a good result [for Islam], it is permitted.”
    http://gatesofvienna.net/2014/04/elisabeths-voice-the-final-push-to-the-echr

  22. Michael Copeland says

    Jun 4, 2014 at 9:34 am

    “People used Christianity to justify slavery”, says Beth Al Fayad cheerfully. How about Islam?
    “When a child or a woman is taken captive, they become slaves by the fact of capture”
    Manual of Islamic Law, o9.13.
    “it is permissible for you take concubines from among those whom you seized as war booty”
    Tafseer Ibn Katheer, 3/500
    “There is no dispute (among the scholars) that it is permissible to take concubines and to have intercourse with one’s slave woman…”
    Ibn Qudaamah [al-Ma’aarij 70:29-30]
    Islam QA http://islamqa.info/en/10382

  23. bill says

    Jun 4, 2014 at 10:12 am

    This is the new (not so new) get out of jail free card for Muslims. Every time a Muslim flips or goes off the reservation they can just say , ‘well he is not a true Muslim’
    The facts that he will most likely leave writing saying he is doing it for Allah and off course praises Allah as he murders people is quite irrelevant. They really do think the infidels are stupid.

  24. Oliver says

    Jun 4, 2014 at 11:52 am

    I read–I think, but am not sure, on an old JW – that there are (in total) some 72 or 73 sects of Islam, and all but one are false. And the other 70+ have to be destroyed (may it happen soon); if that is correct-how come only the Sunni and Shiites are ever mentioned ( and Assad’s group-as an offshoot of one of them–I cannot keep track anymore).?

    And, more to this article- the Muslims in Rochester are almost DEFINITELY NOT OF ONE BRANCH, so shouldn’t they be concerned that he wanted to kill or hurt them ( those of other branches)?

    I never have heard, for example, of Reform Jews going to bomb an Orthodox Jewish Synagogue, or the other way around. Yet, it seems a few times a week, or more, read (not only JW but even the AP and yahoo news?) that Sunnis bombed a Shiite or the reverse, in (fill in the blank–now mostly Syria; but also within the last few months, Iraq, Lebanon and probably other countries (? , perhaps hell holes would be a better term).

    And these anal pores were/are not worried? They must be stupid

  25. White Hunter says

    Jun 4, 2014 at 12:28 pm

    Ayatollah Fazili’s remark is all the evidence needed to prove that Obama is also, indeed, a devout moslem. Consider:

    Every time moslem terrorists blow up a school bus full of children or a train station full of commuters, or hijack airliners and fly them into office buildings or the Pentagon, or shout “alihu akbar!” and open fire at an Army base, or desert and join the Taliban in Afghanistan, Obama–just like the good Ayatollah–is “shocked” and denies that it has anything–anything at ALL–to do with “true” islam.

    Any questions?

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