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Obama: U.S. must stop “jihadists” in Iraq and Syria, and finance and train military forces from other countries to fight them

Jun 12, 2014 7:07 pm By Robert Spencer

“Jihadists”? Expect Obama to get a strongly-worded letter from CIA chief John Brennan, who said in 2010 that jihadists were not jihadists: “They are not jihadists, for jihad is a holy struggle, an effort to purify for a legitimate purpose, and there is nothing — absolutely nothing — holy or pure or legitimate or Islamic about murdering innocent men, women and children.”

Anyway, the incoherence of Barack Obama is breathtaking. Last year he wanted to invade Syria on the side of the “jihadists” he is now saying must be stopped. He has given weapons to groups in Syria that he claimed were “moderate” but which actually were collaborating with these jihadists: the Long War Journal reported on June 29, 2013 that the Al Nusrah Front for the People of the Levant, which is “al Qaeda’s affiliate in Syria,” has “cooperated with Free Syrian Army units to establish sharia, or Islamic law, in Aleppo and in eastern Syria.” What is the Free Syrian Army? The “moderates” whom we are training and to whom we are giving weapons: “the US government is backing the Free Syrian Army despite the group’s known ties to the Al Nusrah Front.”

So apparently it’s all right for the group the U.S. backs to establish Islamic law in Aleppo, but not all right for a similar group to establish Islamic law in Mosul.

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  1. Michael Johnson says

    Jun 12, 2014 at 7:27 pm

    looks like Obama might be finally coming around, or at least starting to… ISIS’s main goal is ISLAMIC state across Syria and Iraq. Noway to hide Islamist motivations. I sense a lot of contempt by people in US for helping Iraq. Doing nothing would be a mistake, it’s time to step up

    • EYESOPEN says

      Jun 13, 2014 at 3:01 am

      No it’s not! It’s just another way of wasting taxpayer money this country does NOT have, as well as wasting the lives of good military men, particularly under Obama’s “rules of engagement” that have already hampered our military. I’m surprised you haven’t caught wise to this by now. We need no more to do with the izlamic rat-holes in the ME.

    • ObamatheFraud says

      Jun 13, 2014 at 8:35 am

      Not going to happen, what ever he does will not be enough to stop this madness in the Middle East. There are more than 170,000 missiles aimed at Israel right now and many more being stockpiled. The best shield in the world cannot stop this kind of arms buildup. Israel will have to act alone and quickly before these folks take over Syria and Iraq. Iran is winning this contest.

  2. Rob says

    Jun 12, 2014 at 7:29 pm

    Quick Barack
    Get to Cairo
    Make speech
    Everything OK

  3. Rob says

    Jun 12, 2014 at 7:33 pm

    PS.
    Travel to Cairo via Stockholm.
    Collect another Nobel Prize.

  4. Wellington says

    Jun 12, 2014 at 8:17 pm

    The short and the long of it is that Obama is a fool, whether complicit with the malevolence which is Islam or not. If complicit, a fool. If not complicit, might as well be since his policies have had the same effect.

    • John C. Barile says

      Jun 12, 2014 at 8:52 pm

      Fama, Obama, Obama, Lama.

    • gravenimage says

      Jun 13, 2014 at 5:42 pm

      Wellington, this is one of the very few times I differ with you—I believe that if Obama is *not* deliberately complicit with Islam then he is a fool, given how his actions have emboldened Jihadists—whereas if he is complicit then he is something *considerably worse* than a fool.

  5. Peter Taylor says

    Jun 12, 2014 at 9:01 pm

    I loved Obama’s “whak-a-Mo” comment.

  6. killer koranski says

    Jun 12, 2014 at 9:44 pm

    Obama is both a fashion model and a lawyer.

    God forbid any media dare scrutinize or criticize his Presidency.

  7. Slobbering Fits says

    Jun 12, 2014 at 10:10 pm

    Hey Obama, “The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam.”

    • EYESOPEN says

      Jun 13, 2014 at 3:03 am

      That’s as fit as any ignorant comment to throw back at the Usurper-in-Chief.

  8. jewdog says

    Jun 12, 2014 at 10:11 pm

    This guy is paid an awfully high salary to be so slow to figure out some basics about Islam. I guess that’s what happens when you go to an elite university and get an indoctrination instead of an education.

    • Markalta says

      Jun 12, 2014 at 11:44 pm

      He only got in due to affirmative action…I think that is becoming more clear the longer he is in the White “Lie” House.

  9. Jeff says

    Jun 12, 2014 at 10:15 pm

    on this issue , Obama is right. Why waste American men in defending Iraq ?

    Why can’t the Iraqis do it themselves ? They have second largest oil wealth and did they even pay for the $1500 Billion in American tax money that went into bringing democracy to iraq ? Nah, they abuse Americans and support Iran.

    America should offer weapons and training ONLY if iraq pays for it.

    • umbra says

      Jun 13, 2014 at 2:27 am

      Armed the kurds instead. They will fight isis, al nausea front, iran, iraq, turkey and syria.

      • livingengine says

        Jun 13, 2014 at 3:53 am

        I agree. I think that is what Obama is trying to say. He is going to work through the Iranians, among others.

    • EYESOPEN says

      Jun 13, 2014 at 3:07 am

      No weapons! NO training! Haven’t we sent enough arms to our enemies that want to kill us? Want to train them how to do it better? Have we learned NOTHING from our weapons and training we gave to muzzies back in Afghanistan back in the 80s, just to “get back” at the Soviet Union for Vietnam? How did that work out for us?

      NO! Absolutely f…ing NOT!

  10. Tradewinds says

    Jun 12, 2014 at 11:06 pm

    Check out John Brennan the expert on Islam.

  11. Beth says

    Jun 13, 2014 at 12:00 am

    I don’t believe his words (obama).

    “So apparently it’s all right for the group the U.S. backs to establish Islamic law in Aleppo, but not all right for a similar group to establish Islamic law in Mosul.”

    For this “similar group” to take control of Mosul – this is too much for the people of the west (especially Americans) to accept – and Obama knows it. He was put on the spot.

    I don’t believe anything he says.

    Time will tell.

  12. Tim says

    Jun 13, 2014 at 1:06 am

    Wack-a-Mo = Wack a Moslem.

    That won’t be coming from this terrorist appeaser.

  13. Aton says

    Jun 13, 2014 at 4:33 am

    .
    This problem started ten years ago.

    After the US invasion, they should have broken Iraq into three autonomous regions/nations. Kurd, Shia, Sunni. Then there would have been a modicum of peace in Iraq.

    But the US and UK could not do that, because the mantra at home was that multiculturalism was the holy grail of culture, to be nurtured and cherished. So they condemned Iraq to a spiral of hatred, terror and decline because of their flawed social idealism.

    You WILL love each other. Ve haf veys of making you love each other.

    .

    To bad none of these brain-dead idealists have read any history. Had they done so, they would have realised that Britain deliberately forced three peoples into one unstable union, to their great advantage. You can only rule an unruly place, like Iraq, if the people are too busy fighting each other to notice they are not in charge.

    Divide and rule.

    How has it got to the stage where the Victorians and Georgians understood society, and used it to their advantage. While modern politicians know nothing about culture and society and live in an idealistic fantasy-land?

    Madness.

    Aton

    • eib says

      Jun 13, 2014 at 7:40 am

      I agree.

    • TediNeo98 says

      Jun 19, 2014 at 11:21 am

      Couldn’t agree with you more – integration in Europe is a joke too…

  14. SteveA55 says

    Jun 13, 2014 at 5:10 am

    ‘Obama bama bama bama ‘bamachameleon’

    He comes and goes…

    Can’t remember the rest, but yes he apparently is a chameleon!

  15. pongidae rex says

    Jun 13, 2014 at 7:31 am

    Over 50,000 American trained Iraqi soldiers, armed to the teeth with American armor and helicopter gunships, ran like rabbits from an estimated 10,000 Jihadists armed with assault rifles and some truck mounted machine guns.

    Now the Jihadists have all that heavy weaponry and, evil as they are, they are not cowards but will stand and fight to the death. Anyone who says Americans should go back there can suit up, buy an airplane ticket and lead the charge.

    Iraq is lost. It is not one country but 3 countries inhabited by people who have hated one another for millenia. Its very existence since WWI was a map drawing mistake. Bush erred in letting people with no experience in democracy draft a constitution that enshrined Islamist ideals. Same mistake as in Afghanistan.

    Iraq’s collapse is a prelude to the debacle looming in Afghanistan. In both cases, our only option is to let these primitive savages sort it out and deal with whomever comes out on top. Their ideology and culture has no place in the 21st or even the 20th century. It is time to contain and quarantine; nation building was a fantasy, just like multi-culturalism.

    • sinantara says

      Jul 20, 2014 at 4:10 am

      Who were the Northern Alliance? Tajiks and Uzbeks fighitng Pashtun domination. Afghanistan too should not be. It should have been divided between Pakistan, Tajikistan and Uzbekistan.

  16. eib says

    Jun 13, 2014 at 7:39 am

    It’s too little and too late.
    I’d prefer we infiltrate the entities in power, get to know them and then weaken them with carefully considered action. Sometimes, immediate war is a bad decision. I think it is here.

    • rabrooks says

      Jun 13, 2014 at 11:35 am

      Should have posted it here! Totally agree!
      Been there, done that, got the t-shirt and a hat! Desert Shield lasted about 1-2 years. Desert Storm was a couple months. Lost 100 in the war. We lost about 5,000 in the peace!
      The war went well because we had a ramp-up of about two years. To go back now would be the equilavent of 1944 invasion of europe. From flight to field. Expect heavy casualties. No surplus of M1’s, M109’s or MRL’s with all the ammo you can shoot. No stockpiles of food, water and fuel to burn.
      We tried. They wanted us out. They got what they wanted. God bless-em!
      Besides, with all the captured US material and funding from us and other places, we will be dealing with a well equipped army that wants only to fight and die.

  17. duh_swami says

    Jun 13, 2014 at 7:47 am

    Rasulullah Obama is a stealth jihadist using the WH as a kind of mosque from which to launch various types of attacks on America. If that’s not the case, what is happening would make a dandy movie or TV drama, similar to the ‘Damian’ series.

  18. David says

    Jun 13, 2014 at 7:52 am

    Exactly pongidae rex , first Iraq, then this is a dress rehearsal for Afghanistan in a year or two. The thousands of allied lives lost, & the trillions of dollars spent in both hell hole countries will be for naught. Not one politician will apologise for any of it either. You ignore history at your peril.

  19. Jay Boo says

    Jun 13, 2014 at 8:17 am

    “He has given weapons to groups in Syria that he claimed were “moderate” but which actually were collaborating with these jihadists: ”

    Check the fine print to see where the next shipment is heading.

  20. nacazo says

    Jun 13, 2014 at 9:11 am

    Is Obama becoming one of those mythical greasy islamophobes?

  21. pennant says

    Jun 13, 2014 at 9:35 am

    While watching the news I caught that “jihadist” remark by Obama. I immediately called my cable provider and complained about a possible sound problem because I thought I heard Obama use the word “jihadist.” Then I read this article and now I feel better knowing that my TV sound is working OK.

  22. Prinz Eugen says

    Jun 13, 2014 at 10:50 am

    The mullah Barak regime has pretty much eliminated correct references to m—– t——–, etc., so he forgot that ‘jihad” is also verboten in a military/atrocity context. Keep distorting the language and even the divine ones will stumble over “corpsemen” and “para-legals!” Even FNC Chris Wallace called the House conservatives “insurgents” yesterday — suggesting that they are indeed the unmentionable terrorists!
    Of course, Chris Wallace’s father was the scumbag commie, Mike TASS Wallace of Lt. Calley interview fame!

  23. rabrooks says

    Jun 13, 2014 at 11:28 am

    Too late!
    Desert Shield lasted about 1-2 years. Desert Storm was a couple months. Lost 100 in the war. We lost about 5,000 in the peace!
    The war went well because we had a ramp-up of about two years. To go back now would be the equilavent of 1944 invasion of europe. From flight to field. Expect heavy casualties. No surplus of M1’s, M109’s or MRL’s with all the ammo you can shoot. No stockpiles of food, water and fuel to burn.
    We tried. They wanted us out. They got what they wanted. God bless-em!
    Besides, with all the captured US material and funding from us and other places, we will be dealing with a well equipped army that wants only to fight and die.

  24. Islamisdeath says

    Jun 13, 2014 at 12:52 pm

    Possibly get Michelle to make a pouty face and tweet as well. That should clear the whole thing up. My gosh!

    • Islamisdeath says

      Jun 13, 2014 at 3:39 pm

      Right you are! Bad nutrition is the cause of many people’s bad choices! Tweet and send them some nutritous snacks Michelle! Lets get this handled and move on to more important things like ending prejudous against polyamorous family groups!

  25. Theb Nyip says

    Jun 13, 2014 at 2:19 pm

    No longer can the left label RS (or the British govt) as an Islamaphobe for using the term Jihadi, for the darling of the left has now used it himself.

    We’ve seen a few cracks in the left over the last few months regarding criticism of islam – 1st it was the protests about Brunei’s Sharia implementation, then the Boko Haram schoolgirl kidnapping, now the use of the term jihadis by Obama when Obama and Kerry have been supporting jihadis for the last few years.

    Regardless of Obama’s many errors in the past (and I’m sure they’ll be many more in future), this statement should generate positive feedback to all Democrat elected representatives that their C-in-C has, in this case, done the right thing in calling out the enemy for what it is – and not using the usual spin of extremists that are misinterpreting the Koran.

  26. Theb Nyip says

    Jun 13, 2014 at 2:34 pm

    That first para should have read:
    “No longer can the left (or the British govt) label RS as an Islamaphobe for using the term Jihadi, for the darling of the left has now used it himself.”

  27. gravenimage says

    Jun 13, 2014 at 5:33 pm

    Obama: U.S. must stop “jihadists” in Iraq and Syria, and finance and train military forces from other countries to fight them
    ………………………………

    Yes—Obama’s actually suing the “J-word” was stunning—but don’t worry, he backtracked almost immediately, saying that the US would do nothing until Iraq worked out its own differences.

    I suppose they think you can negotiate with Jihadists who are lining the streets of their captured cities with decapitated heads, as ISIS has done in Mosul.

    And why not? Right now, we are “negotiating” with the equally sanguinary Taliban…

  28. Robert Wagner says

    Jun 13, 2014 at 11:29 pm

    Obama is doing the right thing for the wrong reason. ISIS is Sunni and Iran is Shiite.
    Bitter enemies. Isn’t it great that two of the world’s greatest dangers are now at each others throat? With a militant Sunni regime at Iran’s front door, I believe that they will have to be more concerned with their own house that with the USA and Israel.

    To Quote Mercutio ” A plague a’ both your houses”.

  29. Jay Boo says

    Jun 14, 2014 at 6:00 am

    Would Obama dare attack his Free Syrian Army Freedom fighter allies?
    Would Qatar give him permission?

  30. Dan says

    Jun 14, 2014 at 12:18 pm

    America should stay out of it, after all, according to the government it is just a bit of violence in the workplace.

  31. Angemon says

    Jun 14, 2014 at 7:08 pm

    ““Jihadists”? Expect Obama to get a strongly-worded letter from CIA chief John Brennan”

    He better send it in WH stationery, to prove how seriously he is taking it 😉

    • John C. Barile says

      Jun 15, 2014 at 3:48 pm

      I catch that–very funny.

    • John C. Barile says

      Jun 15, 2014 at 3:50 pm

      So droll. Now, when has Brennan & Co. done that before, I wonder?

      • John C. Barile says

        Jun 15, 2014 at 3:53 pm

        Back in 2011, I think. At the behest of CAIR et alia.

  32. dumbledoresarmy says

    Jul 1, 2014 at 11:42 pm

    The *only* intervention that any non-Muslim country – and in a sane world, the USA and Russia would be doing this together – should undertake, in Iraq and Syria, right now, is this:

    1/ Go in and establish a heavily-guarded rallying-point/ gateway or gateways.

    2/ As quickly as possibly, gather up *all* the remaining Christians (together with as much of their historic manuscripts and moveable historic artworks, valuables, etc, as can be gathered up along with them). Use Canon Andrew White and assorted people from Barnabas Fund to check the “flock” to weed out any mohammedans masquerading in sheep’s clothing.
    3/ Get all of the Christians and their moveables out through a guarded gateway to safety in the majority-Christian countries of the wider world – everybody takes some, nobody has to take all, easy enough to spread the burden of taking in virtually-destitute people. If Israel did it for the Jews of Iraq, Yemen, Ethiopia and a lot of other places back in the day, surely we of the countries of former Christendom can do no less for *our* persecuted and suffering and threatened-with-genocide brethren.

    4/ Once we’ve gotten all the Christians out…LEAVE, slamming and locking the gates tight shut behind us.

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