The enablers of jihad terror over at the Southern Poverty Law Center have released another “intelligence” report defaming those who dare to oppose terrorism and Sharia oppression. This one focuses on David Horowitz, whom they dub “the godfather of the modern anti-Muslim movement.” It is the usual farrago of nonsense, half-truths, distortions, psychoanalysis from a distance, and outright lies, but it does conclude with this gem:
“He [Horowitz] hires the Luca Brasis of the anti-Islam movement,” Ali said, comparing Robert Spencer to Mario Puzo’s famed hitman from The Godfather. “He subsidizes. He gives them a platform. He enables and supports people who share his ideological vision. And what’s more dangerous than that?”
Indeed. Be afraid, SPLC. Be very afraid. Because I am going to keep on telling the truths you want covered up. Luca Brasi, as you can see from the video above, was the dull-witted thug and hitman employed by the mafia godfather Don Vito Corleone in the movie The Godfather. I’m a dull-witted thug and hitman whom they all fear to debate, but hey, don’t expect rational thought from that crowd. In any case, I can’t stop laughing.
bobm says
fascinating;… the ROMANce of Sicilian Islamic history ; all wrapped up in the skirts of asssassins… Pontius opportunity.. who’s on first?
Susan Olsen says
At least they didn’t call you Fredo.
Robert Spencer says
Ha!
Guy Macher says
That’s why I always agree with you, Mr Spencer!
John C. Barile says
Don’t wanna risk a little “accident” now, wouldya.
Rocky Lore says
Ask the SPLC about their friends Floyd Corkins, Nidal Hasan, Carlos Bledsoe, and Dzokhar Tsarnaev.
CogitoErgoSum says
Allah to Muhammad: “Make them an offer they can’t refuse.”
Henry says
David, Robert, Pamela et al are doing a fantastic job of getting the truth out there! The goons at SPLC are clearly very worried by it. David, Robert and Pamela et al are having a huge affect, and should feel themselves honored by this sort of attention.
Jay Boo says
There are no Muslim Hate Groups
When you look at the Hate Map at SPLC it lists the NAME of the group followed by the TYPE
While it does mention one Islamic group (only one) the Nation of Islam, the TYPE is merely listed as Black Separatist with no mention of Islam.
Other TYPES
Christian Identity
Radical Catholicism
Anti-Muslim
But relax, there are no Muslim Hate Groups
It lists many (Holocaust Denial) groups in California Might this be a code word for anti-Jewish
The SPLC used to list the JDL as a hate group.
Jay Boo says
Masjid al Islam in California is listed as:
TYPE (General Hate)
Go check it out
Jay Boo says
Two groups
Assuming (Masjid al Islam) is Islamic.
Jay Boo says
Here is the link
http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/hate-map#s=CA
QuoVadis says
There are only 2 or fewer Muslim hate groups listed because the SPLC get millions in dollars every year from the Middle East.
Essentially the SPLC has sold itself out to the highest bidder. If you pay them enough money they’ll take you off their hate group list.
The SPLC is a shake down racket. They’re kind of like what Jesse Jackson had going where he’d pester an organization until the paid him whether they were guilty or not.
How ironic the SPLC who seems so principled is just trying to make a buck no matter how UNprincipled it makes them.
What a pathetic world we live in.
dumbledoresarmy says
coming in late, here, reading back through the archives and updating my e-clippings files.
But…hate map, eh?
Every known mosque in the USA should be marked on that map, if they really wanted to be accurate.
John C. Barile says
I’m really into getting more Radically Catholic; Where (as if I didn’t know already) can I sign up [in hoc signo vinces, and all that]? I just hope I can merit a lotta indulgences as reparation to the Sacred Heart of Jesus.
I’m off now to the Heavenly armory to be equipped with the full Armor of God–Deus vult!
John C. Barile says
Oh, yeah–a shout-out to my co-religionist, Robert Spencer. Whack ’em, Bobby!
jewdog says
Once again we see the Muslim Mirror Image Fallacy. By analogizing Horowitz and Spencer with the Mafia, this Ali character is projecting Islam’s own Mafia-like nature onto others. After all, a core tenet of Islam is protection money, or jizya, for infidels (9:29). That’s right out of the Godfather.
In reality, all contributions to JW and related charities are voluntary and help oppose Islamic extortion and terror.
Kepha says
Wrong, Jewdog. The Left’s projecting its own Mafia-like image onto its opponents. I strongly suspect that most of the SPLC doesn’t have a clue about what Islam is really like.
harbidoll says
did the mafia invade islam(north Africa) or the reverse? which came first, the profit or the godfather, jizzya or protection money? fatwa or muarta ,whos the teacher or student?
voegelinian says
Obviously, Islam and its depredatory invasions of North Africa and the Mediterranean came first. Interestingly, among the many conquests the Mohammedans made, was Sicily, the birthplace of the Mafia. This may indicate another in a long list of Islamic connections ignored by Western historians: namely, that the Mafia reflects a kind of violent opposition guerrilla group created initially in defense of the Muslim Occupiers. I.e., the Mafia could be sort of an Italian version of Indian Sikhism & Tamil Tigers.
voegelinian says
Seemingly slight but important correction (in CAPS):
“…a kind of violent opposition guerrilla group created initially in defense AGAINST the Muslim Occupiers…”
Champ says
He gives them a platform. He enables and supports people who share his ideological vision. And what’s more dangerous than that?”
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What’s more dangerous than that? …well, YOU are Ali! Jeez get a mirror, why dontcha …
Ali is an enabler of evil and an enemy of the Truth about islam & company. Indeed, that makes him the one who’s dangerous here.
Tradewinds says
Over the years I’ve come to realize what a twisted, sick and dangerous entity the SPLC is. They need to put themselves on their Hate Lists and hey – get Islam on there, too. What a bunch of useful idiots.
Tradewinds says
I watched the clip. I know who Luca Brasi reminds me of! – Morris Dees!!
Jay Boo says
Here is the Clarion Project link describing (Masjid al Islam)
A California Islamist hate group that SPLC calls ‘general hate’
Nothing to do with Islam????
You decide.
http://www.clarionproject.org/analysis/masjid-al-islam-oakland
Arms Merchant says
Definitely take it as a compliment.
QuoVadis says
The SPLC were the White Blood Cells of American Society. They helped take down the KKK and Anti-Semetic filth. Now they’re Leukemia going after the host.
Kepha says
I think the FBI did the job of taking down the KKK.
bicky says
Robert has done a wonderful job, the Mahoundians and their apologists are getting frustrated,
No Fear says
Mohammed was the prototype for the Mafia “Godfather”.
Spencer has never advocated violence against anyone.
MuslimConvert says
Rest assured that the $PLC are also the enemies of those of us who can no longer stand the corruption and decay of Western civ, and who have ditched the sinking boat for a superior way of life.
Champ says
A muslim convert, eh? …wow you have chosen *most* unwisely.
MuslimConvert says
Not any more unwise than your choice to stick with a religion like Christianity, which is totally ineffective in its opposition to leftist values. At least Islam is proven to work.
Champ says
At least Islam is proven to work.
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A convert AND a comedian …oh please, islam is epic failure!
And muhammad (perdition be upon him) has led you and many astray. Hey what kind of a fool would follow after a criminal like muhammad? A mighty BIG fool, that’s who. Yep, that’s you.
QuoVadis says
Dude are you for real?
What an ironic thing to say given the Billions spent by countries like Saudi Arabia to push Islam in the West. You’ve been sucked up by their Petroleum Based Dawah(TM) network.
We’re all sick of the decay of Western Civilization. But you’ve got to recognize that’s all driven by the Petro Dollar and nothing else.
The Petro Dollar dies and so does Western Decadence and Petroleum Based Dawah(TM).
You should listen to Peter Schiff. He’ll explain it all. There’s no need to convert to Islam. That’s like jumping from the frying pan into the fire. Ouch.
Fitz says
I would wear the title of ‘Henchman’ as a badge of honour Robert. However, why give them the ammunition to besmearch your name? Seriously, you would prefer to be considered a defender rather than an assassin wouldn’t you? A defender, that is, of truth and liberty. I don’t doubt for a moment that you are but you ought, I humbly suggest, place more emphasis on highlighting the thing that you most desire – namely what I have called the ‘Spencer Doctrine’ – that Muslims themselves come out and condemn, reject or disassociate themselves from the hateful teachings of Islam. Just such an occurrence happened with Mustafa Akyol’s article against death for apostasy which you mentioned here: http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/06/sudan-christian-woman-facing-execution-for-leaving-islam-appeals-sentence. The point being that this should have been heralded far more than it was. It is one thing to preach to the converted but there is mileage to be got from presenting more forcefully the positive steps taken by reformist Muslims themselves, without making the conspiratorial assessment that this is all ‘Taqiyya’. This way you can oppose the SPLC’s slanders (assuming it is worth the effort) with solid and plentiful evidence of your own that you are anti-literalist Islam but not anti-Muslim per se, which I’m afraid is the general perception. Cue the vitriol.
Champ says
“Fitz” is not here for honest debate …
Just recently he questioned whether or not Robert Spencer was even a Christian:
He wrote:
“Fitz
May 29, 2014 at 11:01 am
You god-botherers make me laugh. This isn’t a battle between your god and satan, it’s a fight for human dignity in the face of RELIGIOUS stupidity and barbarity. You believers exist on the same spectrum of unthinking barbarity as the Muslims, just not so far down the line of depravity. I’m sure Robert would agree, he’s far too intelligent to be a Christian despite what he professes. He’s in America though so had a constituency to play too.”
This thread:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/05/sign-the-petition-to-abolish-blasphemy-laws/comment-page-1#comment-1074286
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His purpose is clear, and that’s to undermine Robert Spencer and Jihad Watch.
Fitz says
It wouldn’t say a lot for Jihad Watch if a little spat like that lead to its demise. No, my argumentative strategy is a blunt instrument and not rapier-fine like Rod Sterling’s, but my motivations are pro-libertarian as I’m sure yours are.
Champ says
Proving, one again, that “Fitz” is not here for honest debate; as even his reply to me makes absolutely NO sense at all. Sadly, this has been the case with most of his comments and replies. The Twilight Zone beckons you, Fitz.
Done here …
Anyone else care to address this space cadet?
voegelinian says
“…lead to its demise”
Past tense is, ‘led’.
And don’t forget Fitz’s jewel, “besmearch”.
Jay Boo says
Exactly
Well said Champ
very true
BTW The suggestion by Fitz ,that the policing of Islam’s hateful teachings is better left to Muslims themselves is beyond ridiculous. Meanwhile the MSM all but ignore the stoning to death of a pregnant woman in Pakistan in the name of Islam (yet again).
Am I allowed to say “in the name of Islam” Fitz or is the sordid truth of Islam considered vitriol.
Here is a PC euphemism from SPLC
A California Islamist hate group (Masjid al Islam) that SPLC lists as ‘general hate’
Nothing to do with Islam????
See the Clarion Project link describing (Masjid al Islam) at:
http://www.clarionproject.org/analysis/masjid-al-islam-oakland
Champ says
True, Jay Boo …this “Fitz” clown is indeed beyond ridiculous.
Kepha says
As for “human dignity”, it was God becoming man in Jesus Christ that gave more dignity to fallen, sinful humanity than anything else. When I was in college back in the Silly ‘Seventies, I watched people who started out as brave, “humanist” rebels against the supposed Stygian Christian darkness of ages past only to quickly slide into drug and alcohol abuse out of despair. Look at H.G. Wells’ _Mind at the End of its Tether_ a generation earlier, or Ernest Hemingway, champion of the finding your own lonely way, ending up spattering his own brains out all over his study. See it all end in Sartre’s despairing “Hell is other people”. Quite a statement for someone who professes to be “liberating humanity”.
Well, I guess I’m disappointed in Fitz. As for Robert, I may not agree with his adherence to Rome, or with his suggestion that Muhammad did not exist, but I certainly respect his energy and willingness to engage with a large, complex body of knowledge and look on him as something of a teacher to me.
voegelinian says
Mustafa Akyol a “Reformist Muslim”? That’s so 13 years ago, dude.
tpellow says
I suppose we’re expected to take that as their kind of political compliment.
Fitz says
It’s really very cultish here and it’s a dangerous thing when the man becomes more important than the message, as this post demonstrates. To Phil, thanks for pointing out my grammatical error, I’ve always had a problem with that word. To Rod – your reasoning and unbelievable patience shone through it all for me. The solution, as I think you alone have recognised, is not more religion but less religion and Islam will be castrated by the advance of rational-scientific thinking just as Christianity has been. I bid you adieu my friend.
Saleem Smith says
We ex-Muslims living with Islam’s formal and informal death penalty for apostasy understand that Islam is a complete fraud and prophet Muhammad (pbuh) an evil psychopath and pedophile who may have never existed.
Every non-Muslim person should be a proud and practicing “Islamophobe”.
Anyone that respects and/or defends Islam should be forced to live as a non-Muslim in any Islamic Sharia nation on earth for 10 or more years.
A young Australian Muslim recently sent the great ex-Muslim Ali Sina of the Faith Freedom website a list of questions thinking Ali was still a practicing Muslim. Sina goes on to explain to the Muslim that Islam is full of errors and contradictions.
>>>>>>>>>
Clash of Worlds >
by Ali Sina
1- How are young Muslims losing their faith due to lack of education?
Muslims are losing their faith, whether young or old and the reasons are multiple. Islam is not compatible with science, with ethical and moral values, with democracy and with commonsense.
Two factors contributed to the growth of Islam: a) ignorance and b) brute force. Islam has always been incompatible with the above mentioned values. Muslims are not allowed to question Islam. “Believers, do not ask about things which, if revealed to you, would disappoint you. Some people before you did ask such questions, and on that account lost their faith.” (Q. 5: 101-102)
Muslim authorities did their best to keep Muslims ignorant and instill in them religious fervor and fanaticism. This is however, not possible in the age of the Internet. Now anyone can access to any information and Muslims are asking questions they are not supposed to ask and when they get the answer, they lose their faith. There is nothing the authorities whose livelihood depends on Islam can do to stop the exodus of Muslims from Islam short of banning the Internet completely. As that is not likely to happen, Muslims will continue losing their faith and leaving Islam and this process with accelerate in future.
Education is the main reason that Muslims are losing their faith. So do you think denying them education would be a solution? That is what the real Muslims such as al Qaida and Boko Haram believe. Their view is in fact very much in accordance to Islam. But that requires another article.
2. How are young Muslims being influenced by western culture?
What do you mean by western culture? Are you talking about equality of men and women, democracy, equal rights for all the people irrespective of their religion, freedom of conscience and belief, freedom of speech, respecting the right of the children to their childhood? Although these values originated from the western enlightenment, they are universal values, embraced by people of all cultures and races with the exception of Muslims. Muslims can’t adopt these values because they go against the Quran and the sunnah of their prophet. In Islam women are not equal to men. All men do not have equal rights. Islam condones slavery and regards non-Muslims as inferior, najis (filthy) and second class citizen. Islam allows marriage to children as young as nine and according to some schools there is actually no age limit for marriage. Khomeini had intercourse with a five years old girl, with the consent of her father.
Most Muslims are decent people and when they compare their religion to the so called western values that are based on humanism they see the inferiority of it and lose their faith.
Not only Islam is incompatible with our time, it has not been compatible with any time. The cultures that succumbed to Islamic invasion were invariably superior to Islam…
http://www.faithfreedom.org/clash-of-worlds/
akafir says
This is report comparing a patriotic freedom loving truth teller, to a mafia hit-man was written by Wajahat Ali. Wajahat is also a contributor to the “terrorist spin control network” loonwatch.com. The report was published by the Center for American Progress which receives approximately $25 million annually from a variety of sources, major individual donors include George Soros, Peter Lewis, Steve Bing, and Herb and Marion Sandler.
Both the Center for American Progress, and the Southern Poverty Law Center, should either distance themselves from this report, or be officially labeled as the hate groups they have become.
Saleem Smith says
Continue repeating that “islam is the perfect religion of peace” or some Muslim believer might come along and prove to you otherwise.
Ashley says
I’m thoroughly humiliated.
Back in 2001, while metal detecting, I came upon a copper KKK money clip on the fields of a flea market.. It was ugly to the core…depicted a burning cross, white hoods, a bible…the whole works. It was marked “Daniel Lowe, Salem, MA.”
The clip had bad juju, and yet historical value. My husband and I donated it the Southern Poverty Law Center. We received a letter from SPLC that stated that it sits on display in their “museum”.
I have NO regrets for getting rid of the piece of shit…but I now regret that we dumped it on the SPLC for public display. I had no idea back in the day how the SPLC portrayed Jihad Watch.
Robert Spencer…I’m sorry.
Robert Spencer says
Ashley
Thank you for your kind note. Don’t give it a second thought. Back in the 1980s, I myself was a donor to the SPLC. Many people bought their bill of goods, and many still do.
Kindest regards
RS
Salah says
“Be afraid, SPLC. Be very afraid. Because I am going to keep on telling the truths you want covered up.”
And he said to them: Doth a candle come in to be put under a bushel, or under a bed? and not to be set on a candlestick? For there is nothing hid, which shall not be made manifest: neither was it made secret, but that it may come abroad. If any man have ears to hear, let him hear. (Mark 4:21-23)
ALAN Derpowitz says
A more accurate comparison would be to Robert F. Kennedy because RFK worked with McCarthy,who’s since been vindicated amongst people who payed attention to what was revealed from the KGB archives during Glasnost.
unfortunately that aspect of RFK’career makes liberal mush heads twist tnemselves up into knots to pretend they’re ignorant of.
the same sorts of knots that today’s mush heads contort tthemselves into in order to defend the violent right wing religious fundamentalists of the jihad movemet.
I know these people inside and out. When they’re confronted by something that’s more complex than what they’ve been told to,think by salon or huffpo, they do a perverted calculous about who will still be friends with them based upon what they say on an issue.
I take a firm stance based upon what I’ve learned here and on other responsible news aggrigators and it’s lost me many online friends amongst the lotus eaters I am connected to online.
they all engage in a calculous of cowardess that determines how they feel they are allowed to react to what.
the bokobook haram sex slave taking was a perfect example. Stray from the unstated proscribed responces and BANG You are a bad man.
ALAN Derpowitz says
A more accurate comparison would be to Robert F. Kennedy because RFK worked with McCarthy,who’s since been vindicated amongst people who payed attention to what was revealed from the KGB archives during Glasnost.
unfortunately that aspect of RFK’career makes liberal mush heads twist tnemselves up into knots to pretend they’re ignorant of.
the same sorts of knots that today’s mush heads contort tthemselves into in order to defend the violent right wing religious fundamentalists of the jihad movemet.
I know these people inside and out. When they’re confronted by something that’s more complex than what they’ve been told to,think by salon or huffpo, they do a perverted calculous about who will still be friends with them based upon what they say on an issue.
I take a firm stance based upon what I’ve learned here and on other responsible news aggrigators and it’s lost me many online friends amongst the lotus eaters I am connected to online.
they all engage in a calculous of cowardess that determines how they feel they are allowed to react to what.
the bokobook haram sex slave taking was a perfect example. Stray from the unstated proscribed responces and BANG You are a bad man.
ALAN Derpowitz says
A more accurate comparison would be to Robert F. Kennedy because RFK worked with McCarthy,who’s since been vindicated amongst people who payed attention to what was revealed from the KGB archives during Glasnost.
unfortunately that aspect of RFK’career makes liberal mush heads twist tnemselves up into knots to pretend they’re ignorant of.
the same sorts of knots that today’s mush heads contort tthemselves into in order to defend the violent right wing religious fundamentalists of the jihad movemet.
I know these people inside and out. When they’re confronted by something that’s more complex than what they’ve been told to,think by salon or huffpo, they do a perverted calculous about who will still be friends with them based upon what they say on an issue.
I take a firm stance based upon what I’ve learned here and on other responsible news aggrigators and it’s lost me many online friends amongst the lotus eaters I am connected to online.
they all engage in a calculous of cowardess that determines how they feel they are allowed to react to what.
the bokobook haram sex slave taking was a perfect example. Stray from the unstated proscribed responces and BANG You are a bad man.
alan derpowitz says
So sorry. I’m on mobile. I didn’t intend for that comment to be posted two extra times.
tpellow says
We should use the following phrase more: ‘MUSLIM MAFIA.’
Of course, now we’re getting near to the truth with this book:-
“Muslim Mafia:
Inside the Secret Underworld that’s Conspiring to Islamize America”
by P. David Gaubatz and Paul Sperry.
Preview of above book at Amazon:-
“You’ve heard about the courageous young investigators who covertly videotaped officials of ACORN advocating illegal activities. Now, get ready for an undercover expose even more daring: a six-month penetration of the Washington-based Council on American-Islamic Relations that resulted in the collection of thousands of pages of smoking-gun documents from this terror-supporting front group for the dangerous, mob-like Muslim Brotherhood. This is what Muslim Mafia delivers. It has all the elements of a top-flight mystery novel, but the situations and conversations are real. The book’s frightening allegations are supported by more than 12,000 pages of confidential CAIR documents and hundreds of hours of video captured in an unprecedented undercover operation. This trail of information reveals the seditious and well-funded efforts of the Brotherhood under the nonprofit guise of CAIR to support the international jihad against the U.S. Follow intern Chris Gaubatz as he courageously gains the trust of CAIR’s inner sanctum, working undercover as a devoted convert to Islam, and blows the whistle on the entire factory fueling the wave of homegrown terrorism now plaguing America.”
Also ‘Look Inside’ above book, and sample pages, here-
http://www.amazon.com/Muslim-Mafia-Underworld-Conspiring-Islamize/dp/1935071106
Foolster says
I read that book, it’s very good.
sligoker says
Let’s me honest about this. The left has never forgiven Horowitz et al. for realizing later in life that they are the enemies of liberty.
Awake says
The irony of the SPLC’s inane projection was not last on me either.
The similarities between the mafia and Islam are uncanny.
Bezelel says
I would think that the primary concern for all readers of JW is if the reporting is factual. The critics, SPLC, CAIR, the occasional trolls, etc… don’t have a legitimate grievance about the facts and offer complaints about the fact that anyone says anything at all that exposes their sickness. The SPLC has a right to remain stupid, the rest of us have a right to know just how stupid they are. PS Good job striking that nerve Robert.