Did the British really think that all the Muslims in the country were “moderates”? Only now, after taking steps to make London a global capital of Sharia finance, is Cameron saying that they have to defend British values? He is as incoherent as Barack Obama, who is aiding jihadis in Syria whom he wants to fight in Iraq.
“‘Black flag of jihad will fly over London’: Alarm over UK-born Iraq fighters’ threat,” RT, June 16, 2014 (thanks to Halal Pork Shop):
Terror alerts, 9/11-style bombings and murders of British citizens will soon come to London’s streets, according to chilling threats from UK citizens fighting alongside Islam’s most violent terrorist group operating in Syria and Iraq.
The threat comes from British nationals fighting for the Sunni militant group calling themselves the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL/ISIS) in Syria. According to the Sunday Times, they promise that after they’re done there, Britain is next. The message comes from three such fighters, all youngsters in their teens and twenties.
According to the Times, these aren’t regular disenchanted youths at all: one is a 20-year-old hacker from Birmingham, who once stole Tony Blair’s details and posted them online, later serving time for an unrelated violence charge.
The “black flag of jihad” will fly over Downing Street, Junaid Hussain warned on June 4, spelling out the horrors to come. He’s been fighting in Syria for over a year now.
Another, 19-year-old Muhammad Hassan, from Portsmouth, was a student at a prestigious school. He warned on Twitter that if the US doesn’t cease threats over drone strikes on ISIS positions, 9/11-style attacks on America would follow.
The third, also from Portsmouth, promised a “killing spree” of British citizens if he were ever to return to Britain.
“Imagine if someone were to detonate a bomb at voting stations or ambushed the vans that carry the casted [sic] votes. It would mess the whole system up,” came another tweet from Junaid Hussain, before he re-tweeted a warning from a like-minded countryman for British people to “watch out,” because “we’ll come back to the UK and wreak havoc.”
Among his other offenses, Hussain has also been seen posting bomb-making advice on the internet, as well as tips on how to smuggle explosive devices through airport security.
Getting to Syria from Britain isn’t as difficult as some would think: the youths simply travel to Turkey, then crossed the border. One of them was caught by CCTV cameras at the time, traveling on a holiday flight from London Gatwick airport to Turkey’s Antalya. Hassan’s group (not including the aforementioned tweeters) had three other people, all in their mid-twenties. After reaching Turkey, they headed over to Syria by car.
This is nowhere near the first time the public has seen British nationals fighting alongside Middle-Eastern extremists. There have been numerous threats, government monitoring of scores of returnees and reports that British Sunni jihadists use Syria as a training ground before taking the battle to home soil.
What’s more striking is how news of their particular cruelty is widespread in Syria itself: Britons comprise an overwhelming majority of foreigners inside ISIS, an organization who are labeled ‘terrorists’ for their bloody campaign of ruthless executions and body mutilations even by other elements of the Syrian opposition.
One Free Syrian Army General spoke in horror of what some 400 British extremists fighting there were capable of doing. He pointed out that ISIS’s already dark record did not originate from actions by local fighters alone.
Further illustrating the scale of foreign involvement in ISIS operations, Mike Rogers, the US chairman of the Intelligence Committee, speaking to Fox News alleged that there are “thousands” of American and European volunteers and mercenaries fighting for ISIS, which “has the capability to tap people with Western passports to send them back to Europe and the United States for terrorist activity.”
“This is as dangerous as it gets,” said the Republican politician, who urged Barack Obama to use his influence with Sunni Arab states, such as Saudi Arabia and Egypt, to rein in ISIS – which is likely partly funded by powerful sympathizers within those countries.
The current threats take place amid a fearsome escalation of violence in Iraq, which has been spiraling out of control the closer ISIS got to Baghdad. Army desertions abound as militants storm through the country, capturing hundreds of millions of dollars in American weapons and equipment and parading them in videos.
The rebels are currently storming through the major cities of Mosul and Tikrit, continuing to post videos of beheadings on their way to the capital.
Britain has been taking steps to curb the spread of extremism on its soil. Over the weekend, Twitter blocked all ISIS-related accounts and the accounts of its supporters at home in the UK. This is a sensible move, given most of the communication between worldwide supporters of the jihadist cause is done on social networks, where the above British-born terrorists all use new Islamic names.
Prime Minister David Cameron is also ringing alarm bells, asserting that Britain has become too tolerant for its own good, bringing about a rise in extremism. The PM has called on several occasions for the protection and promotion of “British values” as a counterweight to the perceived malignant Islamization of Britain. He now believes the government has been too soft in a number of ways, according to a recent public address.
“It isn’t enough simply to respect these values in schools. They’re not options, they’re the core of what it is to live in Britain,” Cameron told the public.
“In recent years we have been in danger of sending out a worrying message: that if you don’t want to believe in democracy, that’s fine; that if equality isn’t your bag, don’t worry about it; that if you’re completely intolerant of others, we will still tolerate you,” the PM asserted.
“That’s not just led to division; it has also allowed extremism – of both the violent and non-violent kind – to flourish. We need to be far more muscular in promoting British values and the institutions that uphold them,” he said, shortly after a major scare involving an alleged Trojan Horse plot to Islamicize certain British schools, which prompted an investigation and much bickering within the government.
Good luck with that. In an atmosphere in which stopping Islamization is cast as “hatred” and “bigotry,” you aren’t going to make much headway.
Tours732 says
David Cameron wants London to become a global centre for Sharia finance whilst also calling for the ” protection and promotion of British values”??
With his Eton education, I cannot believe that Mr Cameron is stupid. So, what is going on?
Is he naive? So blinkered by political correctness that he cannot see where this is all leading? Or is he, like Tony Blair, complicit in treason by allowing an ideology so alien to the British way of life to flourish here?
Jaladhi says
In a word he and all other world leaders pandering to Muslims are stupid!! Eaton or Harvard specially make them so!
Reality Check says
Eton education is usually a matter of money, not great intelligence.
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
With his Eton education, I cannot believe that Mr Cameron is stupid. So, what is going on?
The same things as what’s going on here in the States. The compression of power into the hands of alumni of a limited set of elite schools is inherently risky. What’s taught to them that’s not taught at other places? What they are is a brand, a group of people with high cachet who are let to take over the reins of power. We’ve watched our government get progressively more stupid all with Ivy League Morons in its executive positions.
This is because – in places like Harvard, Yale and Columbia – the students are uniformly inculcated with a set of mistaken beliefs, with said inculcation administered by an even more limited number of professors.
Colleges, college professors, ruling elites: it’s a high risk strategy that has proved to be a recipe for sure fire disaster. We’re seeing those disasters before our eyes, and not just on matters Islam.
voegelinian says
Elitistics is not sufficient to explain the phenomenon, since there are plenty of non-Elites throughout the West who share the same paradigm the Elites use by which to respond to the problem of Islam.
Islamorealist says
When Cameron has his head on the chopping block in front of Westminster Mosque, about to be decapitated by the executioners of the Islamic Republic of Britain, his last words will be “This has NOTHING to do with Islam”!
Charlie Griffith says
Too much emphasis is placed on which government prints up the passports in someone’s pocket at any one time being indicative of that holder’s [no pun intended here] national origins or national loyalties.
That’s a quaint 19th century holdover.
Passports have become now mere traveling papers of convenience.
My old United States Passports used to have a statement inside saying that traveling abroad to serve in the armed forces of another country was cause to have one’s citizenship cancelled, or words to that effect.
Times change.
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
Symbolism is important, especially when it comes to ideology, which raises a few questions:
1) Why did the Holy Prophet choose to fly a black flag over his troops attacking pagans and Jews?
2) Why isn’t the fact that Islam’s standard is black brought up as a legitimate question by our news entertainers?
3) Has any other group ever chosen the blag flag as its symbol?
Jaladhi says
Black color is holy in Islam – its the color of death and destruction and so is Islam. Quite appropriately Mo/allah chose black color for Islam. Not surprisnig!!
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
Mo/allah? Are you implying that the Holy Prophet made the whole thing up, that there was no Archangel Gabriel reciting the words of the god Allah?
That would delegitimize Islam, and nothing but nothing has succeeded at that.
Jaladhi says
Yeah – I am clearly saying that. There was no archangle jibral, and no holy prophet – everything is figment of imagination of Mo/allah – Mo is allah and allah is Mo or his alter ego!! .. LOL… Islam is totally built on superstition and intimidation and nothing else!!
Semeru says
The black flag is the symbol of the Jewish ultra-Orthodox, anti-Zionist group, Neturei Karta (traitors). It is flown as a sign of mourning over the creation of the State of Israel, most commonly on Israeli Independence Day.
vickie says
We are living in backward times. Isn’t the number 666 holy to Muslims?
eib says
The self-deception HK indulges is that Muslims would allow Jews to live even if Israel did not exist.
It does not matter, whether Israel exists physically or not.
Muslims despise Jews and wish to kill them all. And that fact does not change.
Angemon says
“3) Has any other group ever chosen the blag flag as its symbol?”
From the top of my head, pirates and anarchists. But muslims were, and are, also pirates and anarchists, so…
perceptor1 says
Pirates chose the BLACK ‘jolly roger’ flag.
Answering your question: Islam is a death cult and it’s motto is ‘we love death’.
Kevinr says
Not specifically, there were many types of Pirate flag, the Jolly Roger has become a symbol for the wide range of designs and colours, from a simple red flag, to crossed swords and even a whole skeleton.
gravenimage says
Alarmed Pig Farmer wrote:
3) Has any other group ever chosen the blag flag as its symbol?
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While the flags of several countries use black as an accent color, APF, I can think of *only one* flag historically that used black as its primary color: the pirate flag, the skull and cross bones (or crossed swords), the grimly nicknamed “Jolly Roger”.
The only purpose of this flag was to instill fear—and it is just the same with the black flag of Islam.
Jay Boo says
Deport ( or at the very least, Exchange)
There are long lines of people who would love to gain British citizenship.
Those who wish to fly that black flag and show absolutely no loyalty to Britain should not expect Britain to cater to their inflated sense of entitlement and should be exchange for others or simply be deported outright.
Allah shishkabob says
The Brits need to take a page from the Sinn Fein of Northern Ireland and wage war with all the sharia loving islamofascist.
eib says
I’ve said it before.
I’ll say it again.
The British are the new Irish of the 16th century.
They will be driven off their territory, away from human dignity, and made to come back as serfs where history would make them kings.
Perhaps submission to Islam en masse may save them.
But if they do that, then they cease to have their historical identity and culture. These were all issues the Irish faced then and later.
How much courage do the ethno-British have?
What of themselves can they save from the tide they have allowed to devour them?
eib says
How is it that they found the nerve to fight the Catholic Armada from Spain, and against Islam they turn into jellyfish???
Now they face a religion that is many times more violent than Catholicism ever was and they just fold up.
Perhaps the Catholics weren’t so much of a threat after all.
Mirren10 says
”The threat comes from British nationals fighting for the Sunni militant group calling themselves the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL/ISIS) in Syria”
Firstly, as has been said *many, many* times before, but it bears constant repeating; they are **not British**. Any mohammedan, whether born into it, or a convert, cares nothing for the country he/she was born in. It is the *ummah* that trumps all.
” According to the Sunday Times, they promise that after they’re done there, Britain is next.”
Again, and it has been said many times before; the solution is simple ; **don’t let them back in**. Not only that, but thoroughly investigate the *mosque* they attended, and if anything the least suspicious is found, arrest and interrogate the leaders and ‘worshippers’. If they are found to be in any way sympathetic to jihad, take their passports, rescind their citizenship, and deport them to Syria, or the lands of ISIS.
**Also** thoroughly investigate the **families** of these men. Find out what they are doing, are they in communication with them, in what form, etc. **Anything** remotely suspicious, sympathetic to jihad, the above applies, in spades. These scumbag jihadists are merely the visible tip of the iceberg.
”According to the Times, these aren’t regular disenchanted youths at all”
Of course they aren’t. The only people who continue to believe, in the teeth of all evidence to the contrary, that ‘poverty and alienation causes jihad’, are useful idiot morons like Clegg, and all the rest of the leftard PC/MC fools out there. On the other hand, I would say ‘alienation’ causes jihad has a huge globful of truth, in that mohammedans, by the very nature of the filthy creed they espouse, are indeed **alien** to the rest of humanity. And unless they apostasise, they always will be.
”Getting to Syria from Britain isn’t as difficult as some would think: the youths simply travel to Turkey, then crossed the border”
Good. Make it easy for them. Just **don’t let them back in**. Hopefully these filthy murderers will end up dead anyway.
” … government monitoring of scores of returnees …”
Yet more suicidal, wilful **stupidity**. Why spend millions of pounds of taxpayers money, **monitoring** these scum ? Just **don’t let them back in** !!! Why is that so bloody difficult to process ??!! (And it is we, the taxpayers, who are at risk from these evil bastards. Camoron, Clegg, Milliband, all of them, are **fully** protected from them.)
“Imagine if someone were to detonate a bomb at voting stations or ambushed the vans that carry the casted [sic] votes. It would mess the whole system up,”
Yes, it is innocent citizens who will be in danger, not the smug and traitorous POS’s that allowed this whole situation to arise in the first place. And **we** will also have to foot the bill for monitoring of voting stations etc, have to go through metal detectors, scans and the like, while the traitorous camoron sits on his arse at No 10, congratulating himself on making Britain a **centre for sharia banking**. Dear God.
” … tips on how to smuggle explosive devices through airport security … ”
No difficulty about that ! Just wear a burka ! You won’t even be scanned, or have to take your shoes off, or your headbag, because that would be ‘islamophobic’ ! **Much** better to let an almost certain threat through, than to exercise simple common sense. If we’re all blown sky high, we can at least congratulate ourselves on the fact that that we resisted the cardinal sin of ‘islamophobia’. Dear God. It is to weep.
”What’s more striking is how news of their particular cruelty is widespread in Syria itself: Britons comprise an overwhelming majority of foreigners inside ISIS, an organization who are labeled ‘terrorists’ for their bloody campaign of ruthless executions and body mutilations even by other elements of the Syrian opposition.
One Free Syrian Army General spoke in horror of what some 400 British extremists fighting there were capable of doing. He pointed out that ISIS’s already dark record did not originate from actions by local fighters alone.”
What **crap**, and what unmitigated **gall**. A ‘Free Syrian Army General’ **dares** to ‘speak in horror’ of **atrocities** ??!! **All** of them perpetrate the most horrendous atrocities, because they are **jihadi mohammedans**.
Just a typical mohammedan attempt to deflect. Although I’m surprised he even bothers, given the fact that **no government in the civilised world** will attempt to stand up to these murdering monsters.
”Further illustrating the scale of foreign involvement in ISIS operations, Mike Rogers, the US chairman of the Intelligence Committee, speaking to Fox News alleged that there are “thousands” of American and European volunteers and mercenaries fighting for ISIS, which “has the capability to tap people with Western passports to send them back to Europe and the United States for terrorist activity.”
**Exactly**. And we are **still** expected to swallow the unutterable **bullshit** about the ‘tiny ninority of extremists’, and that the vast mahority of mohammedans infesting our lands are wedded to patriotism, moderation, blah, blah, blah. **Puke** !! **Spit** !!
“This is as dangerous as it gets,” said the Republican politician, who urged Barack Obama to use his influence with Sunni Arab states, such as Saudi Arabia and Egypt, to rein in ISIS – which is likely partly funded by powerful sympathizers within those countries”
Yes, I’m sure Obama, and camoron will be rushing to the phone to warn SA and Egypt not to be naughty and give any money to these nasty people. Then they’d have to give up the huge bribes they’re no doubt busily trousering. Not to mention actually having to evidence a vestige of moral probity. **Vomit**.
”Britain has been taking steps to curb the spread of extremism on its soil. Over the weekend, Twitter blocked all ISIS-related accounts and the accounts of its supporters at home in the UK.”
Oh, for God’s sake !! How moronically stupid can you get ? Of **course** blocking Twitter accounts is going to solve the problem ! Yes indeed ! **Naturally** this will stop jihadis ‘communicating’ with each other. Well done, call me dave ! A stroke of superb, statesmanlike action !
When **you** have simply compounded, and made worse, every traitorous action by Blair and Brown, which has allowed this situation to arise in the first place. Bring on Nuremburg 2. I want to see you all hanging by your heels on Birdcage Walk. You **moronic**, malevolent, disgusting little moral pygmy.
”Prime Minister David Cameron is also ringing alarm bells, asserting that Britain has become too tolerant for its own good, bringing about a rise in extremism. The PM has called on several occasions for the protection and promotion of “British values” as a counterweight to the perceived malignant Islamization of Britain. He now believes the government has been too soft in a number of ways, according to a recent public address”
See my above paragraph. I can’t go on with this, I have to go to the loo and sick up.
voegelinian says
In a few decades, the situation will morph into proportions so complex and deadly that merely “not letting back in” and “thoroughly investigating” will become woefully inadequate. The sooner we reorient (or re-Occidentalize) or imagination and resolve to the paradigm of Total Deportation, the better — less messy, less costly, and less bloody — it will be for us. The longer we wait for this reorientation, the messier, costlier and bloodier it will be.
Why is this small precious nucleus of Canaries-in-a-Coalmine—We few, we happy few, we band of brothers (and sisters)—otherwise known as the Counter-Jihad:
Why are we not only not pushing for this paradigm shift, but rather in myriad subtle ways helping to reinforce the psychological and sociopolitical inertia that abounds all around us in our societies, by which the likely denouement of mess, cost and blood will be maximized, rather than minimized?
Is what I want to know.
voegelinian says
A slight (and obvious) typo:
” The sooner we reorient (or re-Occidentalize) or imagination and resolve …”
— should be, of course:
” The sooner we reorient (or re-Occidentalize) OUR imagination and resolve …”
gravenimage says
Excellent points, Mirren.
Michael Copeland says
English-speaking jihadists play with a severed head: Syria.
COMING SOON, TO A ROAD NEAR YOU
http://www.barenakedislam.com/2014/06/16/syria-english-speaking-foreign-jihadists-play-with-the-decapitated-head-of-a-civilian
eib says
If this man didn’t have so many collaborators in the British government, his words would be foolish.
But, thanx to David Cameron, Tony Blair, and so many others including Prince Charles, the Muslims have allies.
Allies who have systematically silenced all talk of the truth of Islam and its hatred of the West.
Britain, like Corfe Castle, will likely handed over to the authority of the Ummah by a nest of traitors inside.
The next British monarch will be Muslim.
And he will demand submission, with the totalitarian impulse.
Tony Gillings says
Allah curse you and all ignorant Islamist fundamentalist thugs. You insult the name of Allah, you insult the name of Islam!
eib says
Islam is profane.
Now I insulted the name of Islam.
With the statement of fact.
My advice: don’t curse God. Unwise on any day of the week.
gravenimage says
Tony Gillings wrote:
Allah curse you and all ignorant Islamist fundamentalist thugs. You insult the name of Allah, you insult the name of Islam!
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I agree with Philip, Tony—I *hope* you were using the “sarc” tag.
It really isn’t possible to insult Allah or Islam by Jihad atrocities—this is perfectly orthodox Islam, and is held by pious Muslims to be pleasing to the vicious “god” Allah.
Joeb says
Oh…for a second there I thought that photo had been taken on Piccadilly Circus in London. Still, easy mistake to make nowadays in the UK…
In any case, what’s the problem? Dave keeps saying “it’s a Religion of Peace”, and I for one believe our Prime Minister. Three cheers for Mr. Cameron! Hip! Hip!
Walter Sieruk says
This is what happens when the British officials were so kind yet so foolish to let those Islamic militants into England
Tony Gillings says
Members of the Islamic State of Iraq and whatever are nothing more than murderous, ignorant thugs. Allah would be ashamed of his name being used in association with this inhuman, murder of innocent human beings. Allah shall curse every member of these murderous barbarians. Islam is not about what these animals are doing! Muslims are insulted, Allah is insulted!
eib says
Your knowledge of history is lacking to say the least.
Rape, plunder, dispossession, indignity, humiliating the infidel, mass murder, conquest and cultural genocide are all the HEART and SOUL of Islam and the Ummah.
Islam is profane.
Mohammed is a false prophet.
Please stop calling profane things holy.
It is an insult to God, whose name is indeed holy.
eib says
Have you the power to confront these people in Syria and Iraq and survive?
It’s pretty obvious that you’re angry with them.
But what does that mean when you have no force of arms to back your stand?
Yours are a tribal people.
You settle differences not through negotiation, but through violence more often than not.
gravenimage says
Tony Gillings wrote:
Islam is not about what these animals are doing! Muslims are insulted, Allah is insulted!
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This is *exactly* what Islam is about. Likely the only reason this poster is offended by this is because many of the victims are Muslims— but through the handy doctrine of Takfir, other-sect or “insufficiently Islamic” Muslims can be regarded as, essentially, Infidels.
This means they are fair game, just as much as are the Christian victims.
In any case, this whole assertion is grimly laughable. We see this sanguinary horror every day here at Jihad Watch, and Muslim disapproval is—to put it mildly—pretty thin on the ground.
As for “Allah”, certainly the pious Jihadists believe that such horrific sanguinary bloodletting is pleasing to that vile “deity”.
Blangwort says
I have a suggestion for the Brits: Take a look over the pond and read the Second Amendment to the US Constitution. It is essentially a right to self defense. Yes, it looks barbaric to those who live in a civilized society, but you are not dealing with a civilized people. You are dealing with barbarians.
(Re)Learn how to shoot. Learn how to defend yourself. This threat may come from only a fraction of the 10% of the Muslim population, but they are an evil bunch. If they start getting nasty, return fire. It really is the only way to deal with this situation.
The Union Jack has survived many assaults. Let’s all pray that it will survive this one as well.
RCCA says
Basic premise has been that wealthy Muslims are moderate Muslims, regardless where they are from wealthy people are “our” kind of people. sniff sniff.
Of course that’s all wrong as we know that Saudi Arabia is one of the biggest sponsors of ISIL, at least the Iraqis think so.
But the British are known for their double dealing: promising the Jews a national homeland at the same time encouraging Arab nationalism.
eib says
Quote:
Basic premise has been that wealthy Muslims are moderate Muslims, regardless where they are from wealthy people are “our” kind of people. sniff sniff.
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A foolish, suicidal and even genocidal perception.
Littlenan says
No, all the British do NOT believe all Muslims are moderate. Those in authority keep trying to persuade us that the radicals/terrorists are a tiny minority. I do not believe that and many I know do not believe that. Besides which, if these other Muslims are so moderate, why are they not clamouring for the terrorists to be caught and punished?
I will always remember after 9/11 in the US and 7/7 in the UK , no Muslims, who were asked, would condemn the killers. That, I think, said it all.
gravenimage says
Terror alerts, 9/11-style bombings and murders of British citizens will soon come to London’s streets, according to chilling threats…
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How can Britons not know that this is *already happening*—have they forgotten the terrible Tube and bus bombings of 7/7 or the bloody beheading of Drummer Lee Rigby—both atrocities committed in the streets of London?
More:
“This is as dangerous as it gets,” said the Republican politician, who urged Barack Obama to use his influence with Sunni Arab states, such as Saudi Arabia and Egypt, to rein in ISIS – which is likely partly funded by powerful sympathizers within those countries.
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Well, at least someone realizes that these “allies” of ours fund Jihad terror—that’s a step in the right direction—but the idea that Obama can use his influence to curb this is pretty iffy. And that’s assuming that either these Jihad terror states *or* the current occupant of the White House would want to do so…
More:
Prime Minister David Cameron is also ringing alarm bells, asserting that Britain has become too tolerant for its own good, bringing about a rise in extremism. The PM has called on several occasions for the protection and promotion of “British values” as a counterweight to the perceived malignant Islamization of Britain. He now believes the government has been too soft in a number of ways, according to a recent public address.
“It isn’t enough simply to respect these values in schools. They’re not options, they’re the core of what it is to live in Britain,” Cameron told the public.
“In recent years we have been in danger of sending out a worrying message: that if you don’t want to believe in democracy, that’s fine; that if equality isn’t your bag, don’t worry about it; that if you’re completely intolerant of others, we will still tolerate you,” the PM asserted…
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Actually, this sounds *really good*—and I would truly love to think that this represents a real sea change in British acknowledgment of the threat of Jihad. But given that staunch Anti-Jihadists Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller are still banned from entering Britain for daring to warn about the Jihad threat—a situation which has still not lost its power to shock—I’m not sure how seriously I can take it.
God knows, this is one situation where I would be thrilled to be proven wrong…
Mirren10 says
My first comment in answer to yours, didn’t post, for some reason, so I’ll try again !
You said:
”Actually, this sounds *really good*—and I would truly love to think that this represents a real sea change in British acknowledgment of the threat of Jihad”
Unfortunately, I don’t really think it is. Call me a cynical old bat, but:
I think what is happening here is that old ‘call me dave’ has been frightened by the *huge* gains made by UKIP in the recent council elections.
UKIP is the party that wants us out of the EU, and is anti-immigration.
The leader of UKIP, one Nigel Farage, recently tore the deputy PM, the idiotic Clegg, to shreds in a debate on Question Time. It was clear that the majority of the audience agreed with Farage, and had nothing but contempt for Clegg, who is an empty suit, if ever I saw one.
Also, a recent article in the Daily Telegraph ( a Tory paper) saying very much the same things about islam that we say here at Jihad Watch, got almost **7,000** comments, the overwhelming majority of which were in agreement with the article, and vociferously anti-islam.
What is unusual about that, is that normally a) the Telegraph wouldn’t print such an article ( or if it did, would bowdlerise most of it) and b) would delete the majority of the anti- islam comments.
People are waking up, realising what a disaster islam, mohammedan immigration (not to mention the thieving, welfare sucking Roma) and the accompanying PC/MC speak has been for Britain, and refusing to be silenced by the leftard, grauniad ”you’re a racist/bigot/islamophobe crowd.
Consequently,old ‘dave’, who like all politicians, very much wants to keep his snout in the trough, has seen which way the wind is blowing; hence his recent maunderings about Magna Carta, and British values.
He’s talking the talk ( at least until the next General Election), but I very much doubt he will actually walk the walk. If he does, I will be utterly astonished. He’s done this sort of thing before; before the last election, he was promising a referendum on leaving the EU; now he’s got back in ? Not a dickey bird.
But, like you, I would be absolutely **thrilled** to be proved wrong.
Hope you and yours are doing well, dear graven.
gravenimage says
Thanks for the update from an insider, Mirren—I appreciate it.
I’d also like to know your over all opinion of the UKIP.
Apart from reading about the growing horror of Islam, I’m doing well—Hope you are, also.
Mirren10 says
Hi, graven, you said you’d like to know my over all opinion of UKIP.
I’ve read their manifesto, and I like what I read. I also rather like Nigel Farage, although he’s a bit of a wide boy. I voted UKIP in the European elections, and in our local council elections.
For me, what is vitally important, is getting Britain out of the stranglehold of the EU, and restoring our **sovereignty**.
Without that, we have **no** chance of reducing immigration, or doing any of the other things that UKIP wants to do, and which I agree with wholeheartedly.
Simply because, as things stand, we are forced to dance to the tune of the unelected EU and their directives, because we have a pusillanimous ‘government’ which refuses to stand up to them.
call me dave is **still** pushing for Turkey’s membership in the EU; if he gets his way, and **we** are still in it, Britain will be flooded with millions of Turkish mohammedans. 🙁 🙁 Which will be disastrous.
As I said earlier, I’m very cynical about **all** politicians; I’m rather of the mind that the only people who can be safely trusted in power, are those who hate the very idea of it. But I know that’s unrealistic.
So, I shall continue to support UKIP, and hope that in the next General Election, they will a) gain a majority (although I think this unlikely ) or b) gain sufficient votes the Tories will be forced into a coalition (although again, coalition governments have been historically weak and often disastrous). However, Farage strikes me as a gutsy bloke, who would be able to deal with the useless camoron, and clegg. Fingers crossed.
Here’s a link to the UKIP site, if you’re interested.
http://www.ukip.org/issues
Yes, reading about foul islam and the horrors perpetrated by mohamedans worldwide, can be very dispiriting, but I try not to despair, although in my blacker moments I sometimes think it will come to civil war in the end.
Apart from that, me and mine are very well, and actually enjoying some sunshine, after weeks of wind and rain. 🙂
Take care, graven. How’s the art work going ?
Mirren10 says
Here’s the link:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/educationnews/10892606/Trojan-Horse-debate-We-were-wrong-all-cultures-are-not-equal.html