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UK: Christian suspended for bullying Muslim by giving her Christian book

Jun 28, 2014 8:04 pm By Robert Spencer

_Victoria-Wasteney_2958002bIf a Muslim had given a Christian coworker a book about Islam, do you think he or she would have been suspended for nine months for “bullying”? No, I don’t, either. Proselytizing for Christianity is not illegal in Britain. It is only illegal under Islamic law. The anxiousness of British officials to appease and accommodate Islamic supremacism has long ago shaded over into outright ludicrousness, although the laughter is muted by the spectacle of a dying nation and civilization.

“NHS worker who ‘bullied’ Muslim by praying for her,” by David Barrett, Telegraph, June 28, 2014:

A Christian health worker has begun a legal challenge after being disciplined by the NHS for praying with a Muslim colleague.

Victoria Wasteney, a senior occupational therapist in one of the country’s most racially diverse areas, was also accused of bullying the colleague after giving her a book about a Muslim woman who converts to Christianity.

In addition, senior managers told Miss Wasteney that it was inappropriate to invite the woman to a community sports day organised by her church.

The complaints led to Miss Wasteney being suspended on full pay for nine months.

Three charges were upheld against the 37-year-old Christian at an internal disciplinary hearing in February and five charges were found to be unsubstantiated. She had to accept a final written warning at work which will remain on her records for 12 months, as well as accept a range of other requirements designed to stop her discussing her faith and beliefs with colleagues.

Miss Wasteney said she was challenging her employers in court because political correctness in the NHS was stifling ordinary conversations about faith.

“I believe in tolerance for everyone and that is why I am challenging what has happened to me,” she added.

The young Muslim woman was appointed as a newly qualified occupational therapist in a team of 30 managed by Miss Wasteney at East London NHS Foundation Trust.

“One of the earliest conversations I can recall was one in which she said she had just moved to London. She felt that God had a real plan and a purpose for her,” said Miss Wasteney, from Essex. Miss Wasteney told her colleague that she went to church, but was “very cautious because our environment is such that these things can be misconstrued and, with her being from a different faith background, I was mindful of being respectful of that”.

Miss Wasteney said the woman was interested in the anti-human trafficking community work being done by her church.

Over a period of time, Miss Wasteney said she invited her colleague to several church-organised events and thought no more about it. Later, when the woman was due to go off work for hospital treatment, Miss Wasteney gave her a book to read during her recuperation.

“A friend had recommended it to me, a book called I Dared to Call Him Father. I hadn’t read it. I still haven’t. But it is a story about a Muslim woman who converts to Christianity.

“Because we had had these conversations it did not seem abnormal. It certainly was not an attempt to convert her to Christianity, as it was put to me later.”

On another occasion the woman came to Miss Wasteney’s office in tears, upset about her health and problems at home.

“I said to her that she had strong faith and she should draw on that faith,” said Miss Wasteney. “I said ‘Pray!’ She told me she could not pray, so I replied ‘Maybe I can pray for you?’ And she said ‘OK’.

“I asked if I could put my hand on her knee, and she said yes. I don’t know if I said ‘Lord’ or ‘God’ but I said what I thought was the most neutral. Then I said ‘I trust that You will bring peace and You will bring healing’.”

In June last year, Miss Wasteney was told that complaints had been made about bullying and harassment.

A disciplinary hearing at her work in February found her guilty of three charges of misconduct – praying with the colleague, giving her the book and inviting her to church events.

Miss Wasteney’s case is being supported by the Christian Legal Centre, which has instructed Paul Diamond, a leading human rights barrister.

Andrea Williams, the chief executive of the Christian Legal Centre, said the case demonstrated that “the NHS is increasingly dominated by a suffocating liberal agenda that chooses to bend over backwards to accommodate certain beliefs but punishes the Christian”….

Yep.

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Comments

  1. John C. Barile says

    Jun 28, 2014 at 8:16 pm

    This is such a malicious double-standard.

    • Jay Boo says

      Jun 28, 2014 at 9:03 pm

      The UK’s preparation to comply to sharia law before implementing a Sudan-style policy.

      • Ben says

        Jun 29, 2014 at 10:42 pm

        I think the muslim girl did that on purpose, to bring the christian woman in trouble – what a bitch!

    • miriam rove says

      Jun 28, 2014 at 9:25 pm

      Islam is all about double standards.m

    • ben t says

      Jun 29, 2014 at 7:35 am

      What a disgraceful, servile, disgusting end to the greatest, largest, Empire upon which the Sun never set.
      God forbid we Americans, their cultural heirs, who seem to be heading into British degeneracy (Labour Party=Democratic Party) should lose our backbone, our morals.

      • john spielman says

        Jun 29, 2014 at 9:03 am

        I agree, this is an ESPECIALLY digusting end to incredible legacy of Christian leaders from the UK like C.S.Lewis, Oswald, Chambers. Charles and John Wesley, Amy Carmichael, one of the first modern missionaries to India, Hudson Taylor and his family and nephews missionaries to China, the countless hymn writers, the Christians who forced an end to slavery in the British empire, and those tens of thousnads who died in the war agianst fascism just 70 years ago. Now to have the leaders forcing everyone to bow the knee to fascist Islam-an utterly depraved and disgusting end to a legacy of grace and truth anf light.

      • SpiritOf1683 says

        Jun 29, 2014 at 9:56 am

        This is happening under David Cameron, a Tory Prime Minister.

        • ParisClaims says

          Jun 29, 2014 at 10:36 am

          Cameron, a conservative? You have to be joking! He describes himself as The Heir to Blair ( probably the most hated man in the UK). The Conservatives, under Cameron, should be re-named The New Labour Tribute Band.

      • voegelinian says

        Jun 29, 2014 at 1:31 pm

        The UK, like all Westerners (I was going to say “white Westerners” but realized that in our PC MC climate, even that would be misconstrued irrationally), has to pay for its “shameful chapter” in its history of Colonialism (and even Scandinavians have to pay, although they never actively pursued Colonialism in the Third World, because they share the same civilization whose people are to be collectively condemned). And in the past 1/8 of a century, Muslims have become (in the minds of Western PC MCs) the #1 Third Worlders With a Minority Grievance to be Respected and Appeased.

        How long will the UK and the rest of us have to pay? For eternity, of course. Unless we wake up and shake off this ridiculous sociopolitical PC MC paradigm we have shackled ourselves to.

    • robert cross says

      Jun 30, 2014 at 3:03 am

      forgive the correction old whiteguy,but it is us that allow both dhimmi idiots and muslims to trample upon our freedoms because we do absolutely nothing about it,we continue to vote for the same old tired liars ,we refuse to unify,and we sit back like spectators watching the whole world rob us of what is exclusively ours.

  2. CogitoErgoSum says

    Jun 28, 2014 at 8:33 pm

    Maybe I’m just not reading this correctly, but does it say anwhere who it is exactly that made the bullying charges against the Christian woman? Is it the Muslim woman? Her husband? Her co-workers? Upper management? Big Brother? Who?

    • somehistory says

      Jun 28, 2014 at 9:56 pm

      This I wondered too. Perhaps it was another muslim who also worked with the two women. I can’t see a Christian making a complaint.

      And, have there been laws written, suggested, promulgated, that make it a crime for a Christian to speak about religion to a muslim in the UK? We know that one can be arrested and charged for speaking the truth in public about islam, paying a fine, going to jail. But for me, this is the first reading of someone being charged with “bullying” for just talking about God, or praying for, or encouraging a muslim to have faith, or giving a muslim a book to read. And not just being charged, but being suspended and written up at work.
      If there are laws on the books, it should be made public, that no Christian may speak about God to a muslim or offer them spiritual encouragement.

    • bettina says

      Jun 29, 2014 at 1:26 pm

      Very good point, Cogito — I wondered the same thing…

  3. jewdog says

    Jun 28, 2014 at 8:42 pm

    I’m just glad she didn’t hand out one of Robert Spencer’s books, because then she would have been whipped, crucified or beheaded.

    • bernie says

      Jun 28, 2014 at 9:59 pm

      What if she had handed out a book which promoted homosexual/GLBT rights, and someone (especially a Muslim) had complained about it? That would have created a dilemma: Islamophobia or homophobia?

      • umbra says

        Jun 29, 2014 at 1:48 am

        Yes such a paradox would cause a meltdown.

      • John Smith says

        Jun 29, 2014 at 4:23 am

        ‘Islamofauxbia’ every time. It trumps the rights of EVERYONE else.

  4. Jay Boo says

    Jun 28, 2014 at 9:07 pm

    Wearing a hijab or a full blown ninja suit is proselytizing.
    Praying on a magic carpet prayer mat at work is proselytizing.
    Washing feet in a public restroom is proselytizing.
    Wearing a ZZ Top style beard and an Islamic man-dress is proselytizing.

    • pdxnag says

      Jun 28, 2014 at 9:33 pm

      Is wearing a zebiba (head bump) proselytizing too? It can be as distracting as in the Austin Powers’ Mole scene.

      • Jay Boo says

        Jun 28, 2014 at 9:55 pm

        That should be added to the list along with ‘kissing’ the floor and the ‘Three Stooge’ style face-slap routine during Islamic prayer.

  5. somehistory says

    Jun 28, 2014 at 10:06 pm

    I believe this is in fulfillment of Revelation 13 in regard to the wild beast full of blasphemous names, out of the sea. The beast is said to blaspheme God and to wage war against all who will not worship it; to kill those who worship God.
    Thankfully, the verses say the beast has a limited amount of time to work evil.

  6. citycat says

    Jun 28, 2014 at 10:08 pm

    “God had a real plan and purpose for her”
    There again is that dangerous concept that getting more and more smuggled into the domain of the infidel.

  7. Jay Boo says

    Jun 28, 2014 at 11:26 pm

    It is a Cultural Misunderstanding — nothing more.

    Apparently she was not fluent in the speaking of ‘Muslim’ (double-think dialect) and neglected the customary offering of a ‘taqiyya’ sandwich as a symbolic gesture of trust.

    • Jan Fourowls says

      Jun 29, 2014 at 4:57 am

      Laughter is good medicine! Thanks.

  8. mortimer says

    Jun 28, 2014 at 11:31 pm

    England has an establishment of religion…Christian, Anglican religion…therefore, evangelism is protected by the law in England.

    They had better drop the witch hunt against Christians. It shows how cultural Marxists are calling the shots in England.

    • umbra says

      Jun 29, 2014 at 1:57 am

      Evidently, progressivism and islam appear to be faiths that are allowed to propagate without any official hindrance.

    • Kepha says

      Jun 29, 2014 at 2:54 pm

      Sure, England has the Anglican Christian establishment. But, I heard a stroy that an outside observer, watching an Anglican bishop being ordained by a crew of his fellows laying hands on him as he knelt, asked his Anglican friend what was happening.

      The Anglican layman replied candidly, “He’s getting an operation to remove any backbone he ever had.”

  9. zulu says

    Jun 29, 2014 at 1:52 am

    ‘Infidels must wear red collars and shave heads’: ‘Nazi’ vision of Muslim Britain from Imam who ran ‘Isis’ barbecue in Cardiff park

    Abu Waleed, 35, was seen at event in Cardiff bedecked with Isis flags

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2673493/Infidels-wear-red-collars-shave-heads-Nazi-vision-Muslim-Britain-Imam-ran-Isis-barbecue-Welsh-park.html#ixzz35ymPu5cn

    • Michael Copeland says

      Jun 29, 2014 at 4:11 am

      UK journalists, uneducated in Islam, persist in presenting these matters as if they are the personal hatred of the individual “hate preacher”, and thus nothing to do with their alleged Nice Peaceful Islam. Abu Waleed has not dreamt up these details from his own fund of hatred. He is articulating the Pact of Umar (Caliph successor to Mohammed), which defines the conditions under which Christians are permitted to exist, as second class citizens with restricted rights, in a muslim society. It is orthodox basic Islam.
      http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/pact-umar.asp

      • Greg Hamilton says

        Jun 29, 2014 at 5:35 am

        Michael, you might be interested in the website I’ve created to inform people of the nature and existence of the Conditions of Omar. You can get badges, hoodies, and stickers with the logo “Enjoy the Conditions of Omar” which point people to the website.

        http://enjoytheconditionsofomar.blogspot.co.uk/

  10. dsinc says

    Jun 29, 2014 at 2:24 am

    The complaints led to Miss Wasteney being suspended on full pay for nine months.

    I’m going shopping for Christian books this morning. I could do with a nice long paid leave and enough time to bully a whole lot of Muslim’s into discarding belief in a non existent prophet who invented a non existent god called Allah.

  11. Jan Fourowls says

    Jun 29, 2014 at 4:35 am

    This website is prompting a real education. Please indulge the journey of what I’m finding by research related to this post and all recent articles here.

    Recently I started to read the Quran for myself written by the Apostle/Prophet Muhammad. It sickened me so much that I stopped after completing a small portion of it including the fourth Sura on “Women.”

    The complete and unabridged Quran in my hands — via 1980 translation into English approved by both Sunni and Shii Councils in the Republic of Lebanon
    — is replete with (1) mind-boggling, hatefully evil cruelty, and (2) stunning, crazy-making hypocrisy contending that evil is good.

    What Christian would not want to share the gospel of Jesus Christ’s love in hopes of saving any Muslim from the Quran’s horror?

    An example of (1) and (2) is this quotation: (1) “As for the man or woman who is guilty of theft, cut off their hands,” and in the same paragraph (2) “Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.” (Quran 5:37.) Likewise contending in its second part for the forgiveness and mercy of Allah, Quran 5:33 first specifies shaming and stern punishment for opposing Allah and Muhammad as follows: “put to death or crucified or have their hands and feet cut off on alternate sides, or be banished from the land.”

    Another example: (1) “Seek out your enemies relentlessly,” and in the same paragraph, (2) “Allah is Knowing, Wise.” (Quran 4:103).

    The examples abound. Here are a few:

    (1) “Allah knows best your enemies … Jews … Allah has cursed them in their unbelief … Our curse on you as We laid it on the Sabbath-breakers,” and in the same paragraph, (2) “What Allah ordains shall be accomplished.” (Quran 4: 44-47).
    (2) “Men have authority over women because Allah has made the one superior to the others … As for those from whom you [men] fear disobedience, admonish them and send them to beds apart and beat them,“ and in the same paragraph, (2) “Allah is High, Supreme.”
    (3) “If you fear that you cannot treat orphans with fairness, then you may marry such women as seem good to you: two, three, or four of them,” and on the same page, (2) “Allah takes sufficient count of all your actions.” (Quran 4:5-6).
    (4) “Unbelievers [Christians] are those who say: ‘Allah is al-Masih [the Anointed or promised one, Messiah], the son of Miriam… Unbelievers [Christians] are those that say: ‘Allah is one of three.’ … If they do not desist from so saying, those of them that disbelieve shall be sternly punished,” and in the next paragraph, (2) “Allah … is Forgiving, Merciful.” (Quran 5:50-73.)

    Just because empty interlineated words of peaceful mercy are added to a book of prescriptions for violent conduct — and just because Islam’s modern adherents demand an undeserved interfaith equivalence with 21st century Judaism and Christianity — Islam by its own Quran as written by Muhammad is not in fact a religion of peace at all, unless peace could be defined as quashing or killing everyone in the world except Muslims.

    Peaceful Islam? Wishful thinking at best, politically intended double-think to freedom’s peril at worst.

    Others have pointed this out, and more eloquently that I am doing here. But it is an appalling (shocking) experience actually to hold a Quran and read it page by page for yourself, as I have done recently.

    The Quran is in no measure equivalent with the loving gospel of Jesus Christ or the canonical pastoral epistles of the “new testament” of the Holy Bible. Muhammad misused, manipulated and distorted the Bible as his secondary source for parts of the Quran he wrote five centuries later. He and his unholy book sicken my heart because they are so hateful. I cringe for all the women living under the hate crimes specified by the Quran and Sharia law.

    The Quran’s inconsistent, crazy-making diatribe — which has obviously inflamed a substantial segment of its religious adherents to violent insanity continuing into the 21st century — is not speaking at all or ever for the loving God who sent Jesus Christ as a sacrificial atonement for every human being seeking forgiveness. Islam isn’t Buddhism, or Hindu Advaita, or Sikhism or countless other legitimately peaceful religions that Christians can tolerate without risking annihilation by the Islamist sword.

    It is too repugnant to write in detail about it while the reading is so raw, but the Quran is far worse than the online commentaries and excerpts about it had led me to believe. Before anybody goes making comparisons with the Holy Bible’s Torah and other Jewish writings in the “old testament” canon of Christianity, please remember that the Quran was written five centuries after the ministry, death by crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus Christ and the “new testament.” The Quran was not written in the pre-Jesus centuries of the formation of the Jewish people as the covenant people of God or the Middle Eastern tribal warfare that led to the Torah.

    Post-Jesus, the Christian scripture in the Holy Bible features Jesus forgiving a woman caught in adultery, with the famous guidance that he who is without sin should throw the first stone (and none did). John 8:7.

    Jews who became Jesus followers famously included Saul, renamed Paul who, instead of instructions for literal physically violent warfare (as the Quran promotes and Muhammed practiced), wrote epistolary scripture into the Holy Bible that our battle is not with flesh and blood but prayerful warfare for the spirit realm of good versus evil. Ephesians 6: 10-18.

    Jesus Christ, true deity, praise Him, is spiritual victor over all works of Satan, however much that religious reality may be uncomfortable for most post-modern people. (Where is C.S. Lewis when you need him?)

    That said, with our victory ultimately assured in Christ, we need not have heads in the sand like ostriches about the Quran and Islam. In fact the true God of the Bible calls us to spiritual discernment about evil and good.

    I have only appreciation for the inspired followers of Jesus among Roman Catholics. As a protestant reformed Christian I can’t speak too much to the Crusades undertaken before the protestant reformation, but history suggests that those literal physically violent battles were initiated first by Muslims emulating Muhammad and seeking to conquer Western civilization. Mainstream media seems zealous in re-spinning who started the aggression of the crusades between competing cultures.

    Of course in no time has every Muslim been evil even if the religion as a sociopolitical system seeking worldly conquest is itself evil on balance — but the Quran is there for any of us to read as long as Islamists don’t have power to control us, and it is ugly. Astonishingly so.

    We live in times where spin-doctoring is leading us down a path pretending the evil is of Islam is good just because they say so and can afford to fund well-orchestrated public relations campaigns (and/or scare the wits out of people by acts of murderous terror).

    In a world like this, thank God the Abba Father that Jesus Christ is my Savior into eternity, and the Holy Spirit my source of comfort and counsel.

    Thanks to everyone brave enough to speak truth, and pray, too.

    • White Hunter says

      Jun 29, 2014 at 2:17 pm

      I commended you for actually reading the hateful, self-serving ravings of the Perfect Madman (Curses be upon him).

      You’ll find–as I have–that no “infidel” defender of and apologist for islam (especially the most fanatical among them) has ever read a single page of that book; they pontificate about it and its supposed meaning from a position of total ignorance.

      Of course, these same ignorant, self-hating Western islamophiles vehemently condemn Christianity without having bothered to read any of the New Testament (certainly not The Sermon on the Mount, in which Christ gave His followers a complete, authoritative synopsis of what to believe and how to live), but instead satisfy themselves by cherry-picking a few of the more bizarre, arbitrary, and cruel verses from Leviticus (which they’ve heard of, but have never read, either), as though the earliest books of the O.T. governed Christians, or even modern devout Jews.

      So, let’s all keep reading the koran (as much of it as we can stand, anyway), and citing its actual commands to the wife-beating caravan-raider’s modern-day cult members, at least for our own understanding of what this cult of hate and death is really all about.

      • Jan Fourowls says

        Jun 29, 2014 at 10:08 pm

        Appreciate the validation and your insights, W.H. Very well said.

        With Muhammad long gone (as nobody I’ll be seeing in heaven), the Bible by contrast to the Quran teaches me to pray for Muslims living today, to be loving in the way of Jesus, and to love the sinners but not the sin. I could never have given my heart to a Savior (or any supposed deity’s prophet or apostle) who asked me to make war by trickery and/or the sword against those of other religions.

        If only more citizens of western civilization knew the linguistic doublespeak that leads interfaith apologists to claim Islam as a religion of “peace”! I pray that more knowledge of truth happens. For instance, I only recently learned that the Muslim Abode of Peace (Dar Al-Silm) is conquered land that is brought directly under Islamist sovereign rule. Mainstream media never seems to mention the Muslim Abode of War (Dar Al-Harb) which is land yet to be conquered, subsequent to bringing it under Islamist direct control and rule.

        Obviously the UK, Europe, the US and Canada are Dar Al-Harb to Muslims who are faithful to their so-called religion of geopolitical conquest. Maybe Islamists are not so interested in Latin America because that country’s younger generation is coming over the border anyway into the US on the watch of the pro-Islam president and the do-nothing Congress. Or perhaps that immigration debacle is poised to pave the way for opening US borders to Syrian, Iraqi, Iranian (etc.) Muslims allegedly non-radical as the intra-Islamic violence persists in the Middle East.

        It’s such a huge mess that it only reinforces my faith in Jesus Christ and my willingness to pray and let God work in response to the prayers of the faithful.

        On that point, recently I found a 1975 book, Angels: God’s Secret Agents, by Billy Graham (who actually will be in heaven where Muhammad won’t) about the nearly 300 times the Bible refers (OT and NT) to God’s multitudes of angels available to help in spiritual warfare.

        Not that we pray to the angels, but to the triune God, yet a note of hope that the ultimate victory does not belong to the Islamists and their Quran but to those who love God, their neighbors and even their enemies while praying in the way Jesus taught.

  12. Jan Fourowls says

    Jun 29, 2014 at 4:48 am

    Typo correction to comment: We live in times where spin-doctoring is leading us down a path pretending the evil of Islam is good just because they say so and can afford to fund well-orchestrated public relations campaigns (and/or scare the wits out of people by acts of murderous terror).

    This current insanity of normality about Islam reminds me of the nursery story with an adult punchline about the Emperor’s New Clothes. Also the anecdote about cooking frogs slowly, gradually turning up the heat, so they don’t jump out of the pot and ultimately die when they might have been saved.

    • voegelinian says

      Jun 29, 2014 at 1:41 pm

      Yes, many of those classic fairy tales come to mind. Another is Little Red Riding Hood — where the wolf dressed up as harmless grandma is the Moderate Muslim (or, for the Counter-Jihad Softies, the “Lax Muslim” or the “Muslim Ignorant of His Own Islam” or the “Latent Muslim”) infiltrating into the West in protracted sabotage.

      • Jan Fourowls says

        Jun 29, 2014 at 10:17 pm

        Great analogy, voegelinian! Much wisdom in the old fairy tales. They probably can no longer be taught throughout much of the US that instead teaches revisionist Islamic religion and history in the name of public education. Let’s pray that a younger generation will “rebel” against their elders by reading and educating themselves beyond one-sided propaganda with information on blogs like this one.

  13. BC says

    Jun 29, 2014 at 5:23 am

    This lack of tolerance is similar to things which used to happen within the ‘christian churches’
    A Catholic would not set foot in a non Catholic church, even to attend the funeral of a friend who was a member of a different church

    • thomas_h says

      Jun 29, 2014 at 10:29 am

      @BC
      If you see similarity between authorities punishing a Christian for trying to give a book to a mohammedan and a “Catholic who would not set foot in a non Catholic church” then either you are a perfect idiot – (if you are serious), or a lying troll – if you are not serious.
      And what tolerance or “lack of tolerance” are you raving about?
      One can be tolerant, or intolerant of you for being an obvious idiot/troll, but neither would cost you loss of job, or being dragged to the PC inquisition court.
      Time you change your moniker from BC to BS.

    • thomas_h says

      Jun 29, 2014 at 10:32 am

      @BC
      If you see similarity between authorities punishing a Christian for trying to give a book to a mohammedan and a “Catholic who would not set foot in a non Catholic church” then either you are a perfect idiot – (if you are serious), or a lying troll – if you are not serious.

      And what tolerance or “lack of tolerance” are you raving about?
      One can be tolerant, or intolerant of you for being an obvious idiot/troll, but neither would cost you loss of job, or being dragged to the PC inquisition court.
      Time you change your moniker from BC to BS.

      • Jay Boo says

        Jun 29, 2014 at 11:38 am

        BC to BS.
        Agreed

        • Jay Boo says

          Jun 29, 2014 at 1:18 pm

          Beware of today’s anti-jihad (but also antichristian) Muslim lackeys in waiting.
          The pseudo-intellectual façade used to disguise their narcissistic circle-jerk of equivocation will easily crumble before the butcher knife religion of Islam.
          There won’t be enough Chap-stick in the whole world to heal the chafing of non-stop butt-kissing as they ingratiate themselves to their new masters by the use of flattery as they shamelessly defend their eagerness to collaborate against Christians with ‘intellectual‘ rationalization.

        • Jay Boo says

          Jun 29, 2014 at 1:20 pm

          anti-Christian

      • Jay Boo says

        Jun 29, 2014 at 11:58 am

        When I imply that BC must be a smug atheist for making such a comment, I am giving the benefit of doubt since if BC wrote such BS and was not an atheist it would be even more deplorable.

        • Jay Boo says

          Jun 29, 2014 at 12:01 pm

          Reply was meant to BC

    • Jay Boo says

      Jun 29, 2014 at 11:31 am

      Hey BC
      (Before Christ) no doubt
      Any topic that begins with ‘Christian’ is irresistible Red Meat to some atheists. No matter how they try, they just can’t resist the urge to smugly equivocate.
      Why even bring up such a thing?
      What is the point?
      Really no BS
      What is the point?

      • Jay Boo says

        Jun 29, 2014 at 12:18 pm

        @BC
        please note also my reply to your narcissistic whine on:

        http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/06/robert-spencer-at-pj-media-5-new-signs-of-the-wests-myopia-about-the-jihad-threat/comment-page-1#comment-1082165

    • John C. Barile says

      Jun 29, 2014 at 1:33 pm

      There are scrupulous, quirky individuals of every stripe; still, I know of no Catholic prohibition against attending a friend’s funeral–or wedding, for that matter. I wouldn’t take communion during a Protestant church service for the simple reason that I’m not in full communion with them; that doesn’t stop me from honoring my Protestant friends publicly.

      If I were invited to a same-sex wedding ceremony and reception, I would politely and charitably decline.

  14. Greg Hamilton says

    Jun 29, 2014 at 5:32 am

    We have to keep pointing out to our families, friends, neighbours and everyone else exactly what is going on. Enjoy The Conditions of Omar is a brief explanation of our current surrender to Sharia. Wearing a badge saying “Enjoy the Conditions of Omar” is a pain-free way of pointing people to the website which tells them what the Conditions of Omar are and how we are starting to obey them. That way they might just get educated. The website will also point them to jihadwatch and other key sources of information.

    It may seem like a small thing but it’s a simple, cost-effective method of putting the matter in front of a lot of people day after day – people who will otherwise never think of investigating these vital issues.

    http://enjoytheconditionsofomar.blogspot.co.uk/

    • Charli Main says

      Jun 29, 2014 at 1:04 pm

      Good luck Greg.
      Hope you don´t end up getting arrested for inciting racial and religious hatred. Upset the Muslims and expect the “midnight knock”. Nothing upsets “Baroness” Wasi and the Muslim Council of Britain more than people standing up to them and pointing out the filthy cesspit called Islam.

  15. duh_swami says

    Jun 29, 2014 at 5:45 am

    ‘The sun never sets on the British empire’…It does now, the whole place has turned into a muddy spring. The road to appeasement dead ends with shahada, slavery and death. The UK gov made a wrong turn onto ’40 miles of bad road’, the US is right behind them.’ Select your leaders carefully’ preferably someone who knows where reverse gear is at located.

    • BlueRaven says

      Jun 29, 2014 at 2:57 pm

      Great comments DS. Only 40 miles – I think the past that sign post way back. They have gone way too far that they can’t turn back from the Death of Shahada. I’ve heard they may even leave European Union. Way to go UK with the leadership you selected so far.

    • Kepha says

      Jun 29, 2014 at 3:04 pm

      Is Britain now the muddy spring in the Far West into which the sun sinks at night, by which there is a town, and which was seen by Alexander the Great? 😉

      In all seriousness, I think there was a clear thread of Islamophilia running through the British colonial enterprise in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. It seems the British had a preference for Muslims of Hindus in the Subcontinent, for Muslims over Jews in the Palestine Mandate, and Muslims over Christians in northern Iraq. In Malaya, they forbade Christian proselytizing among Muslims Granted, I suspect a lot of it was pragmatic; a way of figuring out how to gain the cooperation of local elites and dominant groups. Still, it seems to have blossomed into a kind of unhealthy exoticism, too. I sometimes wonder if Chuck Windsor’s Islamophilic posturings aren’t partly formed by having read too much imperial-era boys’ books when young.

  16. infidel says

    Jun 29, 2014 at 6:33 am

    if we don’t start standing up , we will all be in Burkas and under sharia law before you know it.

    we need to close borders , and remove David Cameron from office as he is the biggest appeaser of the islam and a traitor to his own people .

    http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DmHqRtLeI_pE&h=0AQFqV60U

  17. Tradewinds says

    Jun 29, 2014 at 7:36 am

    What’s wrong with the English, so eager to become slaves?

    I think a great culture voluntarily submitting to an inferior one as in this case is unprecedented.

    • Isabella says

      Jun 29, 2014 at 8:10 am

      UK is loosing its marbles.

      • pumbar says

        Jun 30, 2014 at 12:16 am

        At least we can spell “losing”.

  18. TerminalInfidel says

    Jun 29, 2014 at 8:44 am

    Being in the UK, I will not engage in any way other than the absolute minimum with Mohammedans – most especially those of Pakistani origin – in public or at work. Nothing personal at all is mentioned, and religion and current affairs are strict no-go zones. Any dialogue runs the risk of offence and therefore a risk to my security and liberty. I personally boycott all businesses and restaurants that are owned or run by Muslims. This is the position I have been forced into as in any conflict or complaint arises there is no way as I as a kuffar white man can not get lose, possibly catastrophically.

    • Jan Fourowls says

      Jun 29, 2014 at 11:01 pm

      Your hands-off position, TerminalInfidel, is already mine as a white woman (with mixed Cherokee bloodline) and strong Christian roots in the US. It is a prudent path. I pray for Muslims to know Jesus or at least recant violent Islam, but you won’t count me going forward in 2014 among those with human plans of talking to them socially in this global political climate.

      These are very hard times in the US, far harder than mainstream media are reporting (and the unemployment statistics of the government are a joke, in that they no longer count people who have stopped looking, live with family or in their cars, panhandle, etc.) The times are so hard, in a parking lot of an American suburban shopping center (with many empty storefronts) a woman of possibly Arab origin yesterday came up to my car, begging help for her sister and a baby in an overloaded stroller. Because I thought she might be a Muslim out of the usual garb intending terrorism (or with a witness could falsely claim I’d said or done something to threaten), I declined politely through a rolled up window.

      But then I prayed, because in my religion Jesus taught that we should help “the least of these,” as if helping Him. And I realized, confirmed by looking at this wandering band of folks on foot in the parking lot more closely, that they were probably of South American descent. I drove over and helped them with food and drink resources in my car. Several spoke English and I also had an extra Bible to give them from a St. Vincent DePaul Thrift Store sale. My point is that we can still reach people as Christians whose sociopolitical system has not waged literal war on us as Islam has, if we stay open to God in discernment through our prayer.

      I will keep praying for the UK and Europe and Canada (and anywhere else) to stem the tide of Islamic encroachment just as I do for my own country. Maybe if the church — any of the churches — has wounded any of you reading here (and churches and Christians, being imperfect, can be very wounding in unacknowledged sin), you might consider giving prayer a try because Jesus wasn’t a churchgoer, either. (And my observant Jewish friends and Messianic Jews obviously are familiar with praying!)

      I strayed outside the fold for much of my adult life, angry about the churches, exploring every other system of thought to try to explain the human condition, running from my own shortcomings because many other people seemed worse. But coming back to faith (and perfectly imperfect), even seeing how much call there is to pray for a victory of the good no human power could achieve in times this upside-down, I am at peace. (Not Islam’s falsely claimed peace but the real peace that passes understanding.) For anyone reading here, I hope the same, and I hope we will meet in eternity!

      • Himalayan Pony says

        Jun 29, 2014 at 11:18 pm

        Wonderful posts Jan Fourowls!! That’s great that you are able to witness to the people around you about Christ. I am also praying for the UK, the US and Canada but also many other countries ! 🙂

  19. Alarmed Pig Farmer says

    Jun 29, 2014 at 8:45 am

    This reminds me of when a Moslima who spent the morning standing at the entrance of a neighborhood public library in Bloomington, MN handing out pro-Moslem pamphlets.

    When a woman who’d passed the Moslima earlier on her way in came back out, the public-property-proselytizer stabbed the Infidel gal in the back as she passed, apparently upset at the way she ignored her and Islam on her way in.

    A security guy was also stabbed in his efforts to restrain the devout Moslima.

    This was in a back page of the newspaper in a small article, and was not reported on the local eyewitness news. Never did hear of her trial, but my bet is she did a plea bargain with no find and six months of ankle bracelet. Or maybe Hennepin County simply dropped the charges.

    • Bradamante says

      Jun 29, 2014 at 9:25 am

      What a crazy story! I was so curious I googled it. Here’s the original article:

      http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2011/06/02/police-woman-stabs-2-outside-bloomington-library/

      Looks like Pamela Geller also had it on her site. Don’t know if it was here on JihadWatch — that was before my time.

      • Alarmed Pig Farmer says

        Jun 29, 2014 at 10:06 am

        Yeah, the article was posted here, whence I read it. The odd thing for me was that I lived a couple of miles from the library, and had even taken my sons there to work on school assignments.

    • voegelinian says

      Jun 29, 2014 at 1:56 pm

      The key to the relevance of that story to our problem are the following data from the report:

      “I never thought she would do that. She was very nice,” said …Salim’s neighbor.

      “Nobody was worried about her committing a violent act,” said [Bloomington Police Commander Mark] Stehlik.

      “She’d greet us every morning … and she’d get to know us,” said [the neighbor]

      Now the question everyone wants answered is why a woman who was not seen as a threat suddenly became violent.

      Time and time again, we see stories of Muslims everyone thought were harmless becoming violent. And this isn’t mere criminal violence. It is part of a grand plan of military and paramilitary sabotage (which includes the deception of seemingly harmless Muslims).

      But I guess the problem isn’t so bad, doesn’t portent horrific terror plots worse than 911, and isn’t metastasizing as we speak, such that we have to take radical pre-emptive measures to protect our societies (so say the Counter-Jihad Softies distinguishing themselves from the Mainstream by considering themselves tougher on the problem).

    • Jan Fourowls says

      Jun 29, 2014 at 11:16 pm

      Yes, the stealth jihad efforts are being ratcheted up in the US at an astonishing rate, aren’t they, Alarmed Pig Farmer!?! You have to be living here to see it happening all around. The long glares and stares from under the hajibs, the eyeshot daggers cast by the husbands at uncovered female heads, the undue jostling in stores, the out-of-control young sons running into us, all seemingly to incite us — but we will not be moved to react to those tactics because we are aware!

      Teaching Islam as history, geography and/or social studies in US public schools is approved in many places (by textbooks and multi-culti activities) but not Christian prayer. Thank you for reporting this story about MN because the neighborhood reality of losing our constitutional freedom is similarly underplayed if reported at all by the press where I live.

  20. tpellow says

    Jun 29, 2014 at 9:04 am

    Yes, from the U.K’s political class, including the Cameron-Clegg-May-Warsi Government, and including the BBC, there is preferential discrimination towards Islam, and against Christianity. The Islamization of Britain is rapid, and far gone.

    • pumbar says

      Jun 30, 2014 at 12:22 am

      It will be fought against and overthrown. It’s just that we Brits always leave things till the last minute. The first step is getting out of the EU.

  21. White Hunter says

    Jun 29, 2014 at 9:20 am

    Would it be “bullying” or “islamophobia” if Victoria had DECLINED to accept a koran from a mohammedan? Or declined to wear a burkha? Or enjoyed a good lunch and a glass of wine during ramadan?

    Maybe the next step will be to declare reading a front-page headline newspaper story about the latest mohammedan abomination or terrorist attack a “hate crime,” and prosecute the reader (as well as the reporter who wrote it, and the paper for even publishing it). After all, we’ve now seen that simply quoting Churchill on the true nature of islam is a prosecutable “offense.”

    If that seems utterly absurd — “it’ll never happen!” — just think back and realize that only a few years ago — fewer than ten — any sane person would have said “impossible!” about all of the current outrages committed every day against Christians (even in Europe), not to mention against simple common sense.

    We’ve reached the point where NOTHING is too outrageous, too incredibly far-fetched, to be true, or contemplated and planned, as a “next step” in the process of surrendering unconditionally to the enemy and finishing the destruction of Western civilization.

    • Jan Fourowls says

      Jun 29, 2014 at 11:30 pm

      Totally agree, W.H., as you say that: “We’ve reached the point where NOTHING is too outrageous, too incredibly far-fetched, to be true, or contemplated and planned …”

      Billy Graham’s daughter, Anne Graham Lotz, speaks to this generation (ours) as likely being the last before the end times that will usher in the reign of Christ, and even if I weren’t a Christian I’d find her marshaling of facts compelling. (Readers here can google her name and Youtube; my favorite is filmed in Old Jerusalem in front of the Dome of the Rock.) She provides many free resources (not a profiteering pseudo-Christian at all).

      If anyone reading here is open to it, she’s recommending 7 days of Christian prayer in the 7th month (July 2014) including a 7-hour fast on the 7th day. Sweet (!!!!!!!) that this is slated to occur during Islamist Ramadan in July where Muslims are basically praying and fasting all month for our physical conquest and destruction. Here’s the link: http://www.annegrahamlotz.com/events/urgent-call-to-prayer/

  22. tony says

    Jun 29, 2014 at 9:46 am

    Makes me want to eat several bacon butties whilst travelling on public transport.
    The good part of this story is the evidence that Muslims are turning to the true and Living God and finding peace.
    God bless all who have opportunities to share the Good News to these troubled and downtrodden people.

  23. Rula Lenski says

    Jun 29, 2014 at 10:02 am

    Bye bye Britain enjoy your headscarves and black satan tents to wear over your pasty heads and horse teeth.

  24. tpellow says

    Jun 29, 2014 at 10:10 am

    Meanwhile, in Islamizing Britain –
    “‘Infidels must wear red collars and shave heads’: ‘Nazi’ vision of Muslim Britain from Imam who ran ‘Isis’ barbecue in Cardiff park.”

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2673493/Infidels-wear-red-collars-shave-heads-Nazi-vision-Muslim-Britain-Imam-ran-Isis-barbecue-Welsh-park.html#ixzz362N1iKjC

  25. Cicero says

    Jun 29, 2014 at 11:00 am

    Islamisation is proceeding apace in theUK. The latest official development inthis process is the launch of. The Islamic bond( the sukuk). in its greed to accumulate more wealth forits ruling elite Britain, in the form of its finance minister,George Osborne hails itself. As the “first Western power. ” to issue Islamic bonds. this comes on the heels of Sharia
    LAw being applied to student loans for Muslims. in fact a vast sum is being ring fenced for Muslim students only. As an aside Mr Osbornes brother is married to a
    Bangladeshi muslimah . So Muslims have been invited into invited into the very halls of power and family privilege of the Britsh elite. they are marrying them, educating them,giving them more equal treatment and by doing so is entrenching Islamic values at the very heart of Britsh society.

  26. Wellington says

    Jun 29, 2014 at 11:14 am

    Interesting article. Interesting thread. Reading through it all made me wonder yet again what the hell has happened to Britain?

    Well, the combination of mocking your culture to death (Monty Python and its ilk is no longer funny to me virtually at all) plus political correctness plus pusillanimous or complicit elites are all “players” in the very sad tale of the demise of Britain (and of course there are others). I think there is still time but not much time to turn this around for the Sceptered Isle—–as least I think there is. Don’t see a bright horizon here though anywhere in the distance. Does anyone?

    • voegelinian says

      Jun 29, 2014 at 2:07 pm

      “Monty Python and its ilk is no longer funny to me virtually at all…”

      Particularly when they consciously avoid lampooning Islam/Muslims:

      Monty Python star won’t parody Islam: “There are people out there without a sense of humour and they”re heavily armed”

      http://www.jihadwatch.org/2013/12/monty-python-star-wont-parody-islam-there-are-people-out-there-without-a-sense-of-humour-and-theyre

      I would only respect Monty Python and others in the West in the arts & entertainment fields if they made a movie about Mohammed with as much zeal and relish as, for example, The Life of Brian. Call it The Life of Habib, about an Arab nobody in 7th century Arabia who gets mistaken for the Prophet of God; and include lots of not-so-subtle digs and jabs at Islam (as The Life of Brian did against Christianity).

    • Jay Boo says

      Jun 29, 2014 at 2:42 pm

      Michael Palin
      BBC television series Sahara with Michael Palin
      http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00cqfb8

      Watch Michael fawn over Muslims to the point that even they are sickened and embarrassed.
      This is soon followed by a visit to an old movie set where Michael Palin fondly remembers mocking Christianity with the help of BBC in replayed scenes.

    • Kepha says

      Jun 29, 2014 at 3:21 pm

      I repent in dust and ashes over having watched Monty Python during my misspent youth.

      As a dyed-in-the-wool Yank, I also avoid Comedy Central. After seeing mockery of Christ going on time after time, and then seeing how they shy away from mocking Islam or Muhammad, I’ve decided to stick my thumbs in my armpits at Comedy Central, flap my arms, and yell, “Buck-buck-buck-aaaaah!” three times at them. Then again, Michael Palin at least had the decency to publicly admit that he’s a coward.

      Our so-called “cultural life” has fallen to a band of half-educated nitwits who can do no better than recylce the self-hating degeneracy of the 1960’s, leaving us spiritually empty, vapid, and prey to true barbarians. We see them whining about freedom of speech for blasphemy and pornography, but supporting the current maladministration and its Democratic Party that is actually trying to do away with the Free Speech clause in the First Amendment (see SR 19).

      And I am disgusted with the public education system, that vast machine in which I am a cog. It has also done its worst to peddle the idiocies of our age under the guise of “literature”; and the history and government curricula which I am asked to teach (at least if I wish to keep my job) make me feel more like a professional swindler of the young that like a facilitator of knowledge. They say the textbooks are manufactured in Texas–and that’s supposed to be one of the last states in the union in which a modicum of sanity exists.

      Yet our publics remain so supremely oblivious to what is happening!

      • Wellington says

        Jun 29, 2014 at 5:37 pm

        I am in agreement with you, Kepha, as well as with Jay Boo and voegelinian who responded to my 11:14 A.M. post as you did. I can no longer watch Monty Python and, adding to the insanity of modern times at the personal level, I am now retired from the small college I taught at for decades and which has, as of last year, abolished any history requirement (fools at this college are in control, I can assure you).

        Descent is in the offing for a good piece of time to come I submit. The chief fault lies not with Islam, nor with any other totalitarian ideology which has sought the destruction of the West, but rather with ourselves. Abuse liberty by way of taking it for granted, and obliterate a sophisticated and extensive knowledge of one’s own heritage, and no continued ascent is possible. Indeed, destruction awaits just around the corner. And Muslims aplenty are licking their respective non-pork chops about all this.

        • Kepha says

          Jun 30, 2014 at 4:05 pm

          Absolutely. Much of our Western malaise is what we’ve done to ourselves, and allowing the most foolish among us to govern.

    • Mirren10 says

      Jun 30, 2014 at 2:31 pm

      ”Well, the combination of mocking your culture to death (Monty Python and its ilk is no longer funny to me virtually at all) plus political correctness plus pusillanimous or complicit elites are all “players” in the very sad tale of the demise of Britain (and of course there are others). ”

      Yep. I stopped finding Python funny after that pusillanimous wanker, Palin, actually admitted his cowardice. They made Life of Brian because they knew no Christians would come after them, but hadn’t the integrity to mock islam in the same way, because they were *scared*. Faugh. I’ve despised them all ever since.

      There’s a fine line between taking the piss out of certain institutions, (which I think is still legitimate) and, as you say, ”mocking your culture to death”.

      As for ”what the hell has happened to Britain”; well, clearly I don’t have all the answers, and I could cite things like the PC takeover of education, etc.

      But I do think, as you pointed out, one of the **big** factors is our lack of pride in our culture and our past, indeed, the shame that has been carefully inculcated at the highest levels.

      Contrast that with the American pride in your country and culture, which is still a strong force, even though you also have a lot of leftard useful idiots, who make it their business to denigrate their own country.

      Is there a bright horizon ? I don’t know; I feel a certain amount of hope when I see the successes UKIP had at the recent council elections, and the fact that a recent Telegraph article slamming PC/MC and islam garnered almost 7,000 comments almost all of which agreed with the article.

      Then I see things like this utterly disgraceful action against this young Christian woman, and I start to despair again. At least she is taking the NHS to court, I hope to God she wins.

    • Mirren10 says

      Jun 30, 2014 at 2:37 pm

      You might like this song, Wellington, sung by one of my favourite ”folkies”.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRK6U5vIHCs

      Little things, but important.

  27. gravenimage says

    Jun 29, 2014 at 11:37 am

    UK: Christian suspended for bullying Muslim by giving her Christian book

    If a Muslim had given a Christian coworker a book about Islam, do you think he or she would have been suspended for nine months for “bullying”? No, I don’t, either. Proselytizing for Christianity is not illegal in Britain. It is only illegal under Islamic law.
    ……………………………………

    More ipso facto enforcing of Shari’ah norms.

    I’ve had people I’ve worked with give me Jehovah’s Witness tracts and the Book of Mormon. I’ve found a couple of polite “thank you for thinking of me, but I’m not interested” is sufficient. I wouldn’t have dreamed to trying to get these people suspended.

    More:

    In addition, senior managers told Miss Wasteney that it was inappropriate to invite the woman to a community sports day organised by her church.
    ……………………………………

    Here in the civilized world, this is known as “being friendly”. Again, anyone can turn down an invitation.

    That Britons are *preemptively* enforcing dhimmitude is profoundly disturbing.

  28. gravenimage says

    Jun 29, 2014 at 11:45 am

    I’ve also had people of different faiths say they would pray for me or someone I loved from time to time. I have always just taken this as a caring gesture—it has never mattered to me—or them, I would imagine—whether I belonged to their denomination or not.

    • Charli Main says

      Jun 29, 2014 at 1:10 pm

      Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists and Jews would never dream of wishing you evil, harm or a bad day.
      That’s exclusively a Muslim prerogative.

  29. Mohan Srivastava says

    Jun 29, 2014 at 11:53 am

    This is real world first majority of world dont believe in any god In india prostelyzing is crime and burning churches in not unkown.

    In such a unfriendly wotrd not so much caring for christanity is prevalnt .The days of sun never set was Golden years of Christinity was at its peak just ike islam had its peak 1000 y ago

    To proove by antganised front is diseuptive and undemocratic like it or not pluralism secularism is reality and will be more s as peaceful means of solving problem permeats

    In there are several sects cultures and like world it is not any different than red neck narrow vision of not seeing the inevitble Total rejection of religous slavery hostility violence jehad or its counter part .A doctor is trusted to see people in vulnerable position he is accustomed to see distressed does not offer religous advise to ease his own medicarion as panacea for all diseases

  30. Walter Sieruk says

    Jun 29, 2014 at 1:40 pm

    The Greek philosopher Plato is one of the contributors to Western Civilization. He may shed some light into the subject of those people who are shackled in the chains and darkness of Islamic thought. In Plato’s REPUBLIC he gave an allegory of a cave where “the condition of men living in a sort of cavernous chamber…Here they have been from childhood, chained by leg and also by the neck, so that they cannot move and see only what is in front of them.” This can fit into what the Imams do in the mosques and how they brainwash the young people in the madrassa’s by always programming Islamic doctrine into their victims and not exposing them to other worldviews. Furthermore, even in Islamic tradition when Muslims have their newborn child the father whispers words of the Quran into the infants ear so that that Quran verses are the first thing the newborn person hears. This programming process takes place all their lives. These are some of the chains that keep them bound in a mosque [cave]. The chains do not let them reach out for dialectic reasoning and let them examine the evidence both for as well as against, or even question whether Muhammad was a true prophet of God or not, and if the Quran is a hoax or not. As the chains and darkness of the cave blinds and holds the prisoners back from reality, so Islamic propaganda holds back the cognition to reason with the question if Islam is true or not. They are forbidden from even thinking to question Islam. Furthermore, if a Muslim by some miracle wakes up to the truth about Islam, it would be like the man in Plato’s cave allegory who was released from his chains and taken outside to the real world. At first direct light would be painful and disorienting, it would take some time for him to understand what the truth is all about, he even might cling to the shadows and still for a time believe some of the illusions to be real. But he would finally come to know “what he had formerly seen was meaningless illusion.” And that was “what passed for wisdom in his former dwelling-place.”And that the other cave prisoners also needed to see the light [the truth] for he “was sorry for them.” and he would re-enter the cave just to rescue them. Nevertheless, the cave prisoners wouldn’t understand and “if they could lay hand on the man who was trying to set them free.” And if they could “they would kill him.” Likewise, when someone escapes from the shackles of Islam, those still in the darkness of this religion would not understand and if possible kill him for leaving Islam, and even more so if he were to try to enlighten them about the truth about Islam. For these people in Islam are chained to an empty imitation of truth and godliness.

  31. bernie james says

    Jun 29, 2014 at 6:33 pm

    what all these people fail to recognise is its all about money ,oil money do you think we would take any notice of the Saudis if they weren’t spending billons on jet planes, tanks fighter aircraft and other hardwear.take away the oil and they would be just Arab’s eating camels and living in tents in the sand. so that’s why our brown nose gov suck up to them all the time.

    • Michael McGee says

      Jun 29, 2014 at 9:12 pm

      That is not true and you know it.

  32. Michael McGee says

    Jun 29, 2014 at 9:00 pm

    Goes to show interfaith dialogue is a load of shit. By definition interfaith means people can talk freely about their faith to people of other faiths. What it really means is the only faith that can be dicussed is Islam.

    • Wellington says

      Jun 29, 2014 at 9:46 pm

      Your commernt reminded me of what Dennis Prager has said, to wit, that when Christians and Jews get together in an interfaith dialogue with Muslims the Christians and Jews talk about how wonderful Islam is and then the Muslims talk about how wonderful Islam is.

  33. Dan Nowotarski says

    Jun 30, 2014 at 2:35 am

    The British officials have turned their backs on their people and their country either for a few silver coins or because they fear reprisals from the radical Muslim population, this proves them to be too cowardly to be leaders of any people, and because of this they need to demand those officials step down by their own free will or by force before the country is in ruins. The UK , like the U.S. and all countries, need leaders who are strong and won’t bow to the demands of radical Muslims. The cowardly leaders around the world need to either look for and find their brass and stand up against the Islamic threat or step aside and allow the Real leaders to lead. Juanita Kidd Stout said “A Person Educated in Mind and not in Morals is a Menace to Society.”

  34. Prakash Basrur says

    Jun 30, 2014 at 2:55 am

    In India we have faced worse such situation arising out of our power-hungry Left-oriented politicians for the last 66 years ! For the sake of securing votes during the 4-yearly general election of the “Muslim Vote Bank”, these politicians have taken undue advantage of the democratic Hindus ! This has been done by using certain clauses in the Indian constitution which were built-in at the time of framing the constitution by the same leftist politicians , like Jawaharlal Nehru , by using their brute ( upto 95%) majority in the lower and upper houses of parliament ! These in-built constitutional provisions of Indian democracy , vis-a-vis protecting the interests of minorities , do not allow the majority ( constituting 80% of the total population ) Hindus to reverse those provisions even by seeking remedial action through the Indian courts of law , the latter always pointing out those constitutional provisions ! In last few decades , particularly after the invisible influence of the Petro Dollars from the Middle East Islamic Countries in the U.K. , the Anglo-Saxon ( i.e. White ) majority population of Great Britain is getting a raw deal from their politicians who have been slowly and steadily incorporating new laws beneficial to the Muslims ! Britain , if I may , is going the same way as India in this aspect of politics ! So is France and the Scandivaian countries who all , unfortunately, need both the Petro-dollars as well as the younger “productive” (?) immigrant population mostly from their ex colonies !!!!

  35. Gene says

    Jun 30, 2014 at 11:33 am

    It is bullying to be nice to a Muslim? Perhaps if she had given the woman a suicide vest and told her to self detonate at a child’s birthday party, that might have been acceptable. Or maybe she could have helped her behead an unsuspecting British soldier on the street somewhere, that would have been considered to be tolerant and understanding of subhuman cultures.

    Of course she is getting 9 months of full pay vacation, that doesn’t sound too bad.

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