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UK counter-terror chief: Some Muslims “too accepting of radical views,” in many cases “extremists” not reported to authorities

Jun 25, 2014 1:19 pm By Robert Spencer

Muslims carrying banners declaring 'Islam will dominate the world' protest at the visit of Mr Wilders to the UKThe Metropolitan Police’s Assistant Commissioner, Cressida Dick, says that it is up to the police to make Muslim communities “wholly hostile to violent extremism.” Why is that the police’s responsibility? Isn’t it a core assumption of British policymakers that Muslim communities in the U.K. wholeheartedly reject “violent extremism,” except for a tiny minority of misunderstanders of Islam? Does Cressida Dick assume that “violent extremism” is caused by police actions — counter-terror actions — and thus can and should be ended by police modifying their behavior? This is just another manifestation of the willful ignorance of British authorities regarding the nature and magnitude of the jihad threat. Of course the obvious reason why some “extremists” were not brought to the attention of authorities and why some Muslims are “too accepting of radical views” is because they are sympathetic to those views and regard them not as “extremist” Islam but as Qur’anic Islam. But that is something that British authorities do not dare consider.

“UK Muslims ‘complacent’ over threat of home-grown jihadists, warns top counter-terrorism officer Cressida Dick,” by Jack Doyle and Chris Greenwood, Daily Mail, June 23, 2014 (thanks to Pamela Geller):

Muslim communities in Britain are guilty of ‘complacency and passivity’ over the threat from home-grown jihadists, the UK’s top counter-terrorism officer warned last night.

The Metropolitan Police’s Assistant Commissioner, Cressida Dick, said there were many cases where ‘warning signs’ about extremists were not brought to the attention of authorities.

She also indicated some Muslims were too accepting of radical views, saying it was the police’s ‘greatest challenge’ to make them ‘wholly hostile to violent extremism’.

Her comments came as the Government was confronted with a damning assessment by a former head of the military of Britain’s capacity to confront terrorism.

Lord Richards of Herstmonceux, chief of the defence staff until last year, said the military was ‘not good enough’ to deal with the global threat from jihadis.

The crossbench peer, formerly General Sir David Richards, called for a rise in defence spending and warned that without it, the effectiveness of the Armed Forces would inevitably deteriorate further.

He told the Lords that militant jihadism was the biggest threat to the ‘free world today’, adding: ‘Are our Armed Forces in a fit state to play their role in dealing with these and other risks to our way of life? … The answer must be that it’s not good enough but it’s some consolation that it’s better than any other allied nation except the US.’

Another senior police officer backed Miss Dick’s remarks. Sir Peter Fahy, the Chief Constable of Greater Manchester, said a lot of extremists were radicalised ‘in their own community’.

He said propaganda videos of Syria made the conflict look like a ‘Boy Scout camp’ when the reality was ‘very brutal, very callous’.

‘We mustn’t over-emphasise the power of the internet,’ he said. ‘We know that a lot of people have been radicalised in their own community by people who themselves have given this very perverted message.’

He added that police needed the ‘whole of the community to counter this narrative’.

The Government’s former counter-terror adviser Lord Carlile called for ministers to bring back powers used to control terror suspects, which were watered down after pressure from Nick Clegg. He said it was impossible for police and security services to follow jihadis returning to Britain from Syria or Iraq and said ministers were wrong to ‘abandon’ control orders which had protected the public.

Miss Dick, who leaves her role tomorrow, made her comments in an address to the Royal United Services Institute think-tank.

She said there is less ‘alertness’ among British Muslims about extremism compared with those in other countries. But she said violent images from Syria and Iraq were forcing them to confront the problem.

Police were using the conflicts to try to convince families and friends to turn in loved ones if they suspect them of extremist activities

She said: ‘In the UK we want to depend more on families, schools, friends, health professionals, employers, observing changes in behaviour and having the confidence to come forward. We do have frequent examples of this, but also many examples of warning signs being missed, ignored or not being brought to the attention of the authorities.’

Miss Dick added: ‘In the UK, it will be communities that defeat terrorism and it remains our greatest challenge to support the development of communities that are wholly hostile to violent extremism and to identify, support and protect those who are vulnerable to radicalisation.’

But she said that communities also need to ‘stand up to them and reject them’, adding: ‘The daily awful news stories underline the scale of the challenge and are, I believe, reducing complacency and passivity.’

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  1. eib says

    Jun 25, 2014 at 1:29 pm

    Gentle rhetoric from a cowed official.

  2. Judi says

    Jun 25, 2014 at 1:34 pm

    Miss Dick – aptly named.

    • Ashley says

      Jun 25, 2014 at 1:44 pm

      LOL!

  3. Ashley says

    Jun 25, 2014 at 1:43 pm

    She said: ‘In the UK we want to depend more on families, schools, friends, health professionals, employers, observing changes in behaviour and having the confidence to come forward. We do have frequent examples of this, but also many examples of warning signs being missed, ignored or not being brought to the attention of the authorities.’
    ______________________

    She failed to mention the mosques…

    I really don’t see Muslims “reporting” fellow Muslims. I’m sure it is somewhere in the Qur’an. Probably something profound like “nobody likes a tattle-tale.”

  4. Mirren10 says

    Jun 25, 2014 at 1:46 pm

    ”The Metropolitan Police’s Assistant Commissioner, Cressida Dick, says that it is up to the police to make Muslim communities “wholly hostile to violent extremism.”

    Cressida Dick **is** a dick. But so are they all. Yet again, mohammedans held to a lower standard than the rest of us.

    It is **their** responsibility, **not** ours !!

  5. Charli Main says

    Jun 25, 2014 at 1:48 pm

    “some Muslims were too accepting of radical views”
    These ” views” are not radical. they are everyday, run of the mill Islam.
    These Muslims are not reported to the authorities because in the eyes of Muslim communities living in Britain, these Muslims have not done anything wrong.
    THEY ARE MUSLIMS PRACTICING ISLAM AS LAID DOWN IN THE KORAN.
    I can help wondering if Cressida Dick took lessons in stupid or if she was just born that way.

  6. Charli Main says

    Jun 25, 2014 at 1:48 pm

    “some Muslims were too accepting of radical views”
    These ” views” are not radical. they are everyday, run of the mill Islam.
    These Muslims are not reported to the authorities because in the eyes of Muslim communities living in Britain, these Muslims have not done anything wrong.
    THEY ARE MUSLIMS PRACTICING ISLAM AS LAID DOWN IN THE KORAN.
    I can help wondering if Cressida Dick took lessons in stupid or if she was just born that way.

    • Charli Main says

      Jun 25, 2014 at 1:52 pm

      sorry for double post, folks.!!! don´t know who that happened.

  7. Angemon says

    Jun 25, 2014 at 1:49 pm

    “The Metropolitan Police’s Assistant Commissioner, Cressida Dick, said there were many cases where ‘warning signs’ about extremists were not brought to the attention of authorities.”

    Remember what CAIR says about muslims talking with authorities:

    http://a4.img.talkingpointsmemo.com/image/upload/c_fill,fl_keep_iptc,g_faces,h_365,w_652/uydph5icypxyxubsx7wk.jpg

    The big question here is this: the people who helped to conceal the “extremists” (by extremists i mean pious muslims) did so because a) they’re just as “extremist”, or b) because they naively thought they could help the “extremists” to be “moderate” or somehow change their ways?

    With what I know so far I think it’s option a) and that the authorities should act accordingly instead of pretending it’s b) and hoping for the best. Otherwise, when the roaring mob of mahommedans comes thirsty for their blood, they’ll just end up as the british equivalent of the iraqi minister of information:

  8. Ashley says

    Jun 25, 2014 at 1:52 pm

    Okay. So Ms. Dick proposes that community members alert the authorities when signs of extremism are being expressed…

    Think about our government here in the US. What is the message when our own government sees the warning signs and does nothing? Think Nadal Hasan. Think the Brothers Tsarnaev.

    Oh…and I can’t find ANY news of Timothy DeTillo being picked up for that cute tweet he recently sent…

  9. Alarmed Pig Farmer says

    Jun 25, 2014 at 2:05 pm

    So the Moslems in England aren’t alert enough, and thus miss the warning signs. I’ll give you a warning sign: a Moslem anywhere in Dar al-Harb, that’s a warning sign. Whether it’s a she waring a glad bag or a he wearing one of those stupid white caps, be warned.

    To risk a logic leap, maybe the English should call up President Obama, who put NASA on the case and pledged to foment Moslem entrepreneurship. From my experience, people strapped to rockets and people working at Internet startup companies are a hopped up bunch, so England can help their London and Birminghan Moslems learn to better understand the warning sign of… Moslems in their presence.

  10. Jaladhi says

    Jun 25, 2014 at 3:00 pm

    This terror chief is a total moron!! Doesn’t he know that all Muslims have the same radical views. D know that this comes directly from Quran and not accepting these views is tantamount to not accepting that criminal allah’s words and that renders them blasphemous or apostate – the penalty is losing your head!!

    • Jaladhi says

      Jun 25, 2014 at 3:07 pm

      Slight typo correction:

      This terror chief is a total moron!! Doesn’t she know that all Muslims have the same radical views. Doesn’t she know that this comes directly from Quran and not accepting these views is tantamount to not accepting that criminal allah’s words and that renders them blasphemous or apostate – the penalty is losing your head!!

  11. IQ al Rassooli says

    Jun 25, 2014 at 3:14 pm

    Cressida Dick, David Cameron, Nick Clegg as well as ALL the Western leaders are in a petrified state of DENIAL

    They can see the elephant in the room but they do not know how to deal with it

    They KNOW that Islam is the source of 100% of all acts of terror worldwide against Infidels/ Kuffar/ Unbelievers/ Kafiroon

    They KNOW that the source of ALL acts of violence by the followers of Muhammad is Muhammad’s Quran

    They KNOW that ALL Mosques and Madrassas (Islamic INDOCTRINATION schools) are the incubators of present and future terrorists

    They KNOW all the above and more BUT they have no clue on how to deal with this virulent virus

    Anyone with two brain cells of Logic having read Muhammad’s Quran & Sunna (traditions about Muhammad; together are the foundations of Sharia) would come to the following and only conclusions:

    That Islam, Sharia and the Fundamentalist followers of Muhammad are Hate mongering, Warmongering, Racist, Duplicitous, Intolerant, Misogynist, Disloyal, Vile and hence totally Ungodly

    To deal with these creatures every Western and none Muslim state in the world must close every Mosque & Madrassa; stop all immigration from Muslim states; deport all those who are not willing to abide by the laws and traditions of the host country; eliminate any and all vestiges of Sharia etc

    These sound like DRACONIAN rules but in fact they are within all the laws present in our democracies: Those who INCITE hatred must be utterly removed from our societies.

    For the Politically Correct dimwits reading my comments, try for a change using your brain instead of your emotion by digesting the following beautifully put AXIOM by a gentleman called Karl Popper:

    “Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance.

    “If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant,

    if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant,

    then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them.

    We should therefore claim, in the name of tolerance, the right not to tolerate the intolerant.”

    Hence we must NEVER Tolerate the Intolerance of Islam and Sharia nor allow them to soil our soil.

    IQ al Rassooli
    Kafir & Proud!

  12. Judi says

    Jun 25, 2014 at 5:55 pm

    This was an item on the BBC tonight:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-28021587

  13. Michael Copeland says

    Jun 25, 2014 at 6:15 pm

    Cressida Dick says the police’s ‘greatest challenge’ is to make muslims ‘wholly hostile to violent extremism’. Like Cameron, Clegg, and the team, she has been artfully deceived by muslim advisors.
    The Government’s own definition of “extremism” fits Islam like a glove, and Islam’s own texts command violence against non-muslims. She is therefore expecting her police force to make muslims become wholly hostile to Islam. No deal.
    http://libertygb.org.uk/v1/index.php/home/root/news-libertygb/6183-extremism-there-is-a-problem-within-islam

  14. Gleaner1 says

    Jun 26, 2014 at 12:17 pm

    It’s a good job this tool of appeasement is leaving her job, the trouble is we still have to pay her for being the politicians pet lickspittle in uniform. Remember, it was this woman who couldn’t tell the difference between a Brazilian plumber and a muslim terrorist after 7/7 – her officers shot the plumber then lied about it.

    She is fully aware of who pays and promotes her, therefore she avoids placing the blame for the impossible job she’s committing the police to do on the politicians who refuse to face up to what they’ve unleashed on the rest of us.

    My view is that the people have to remove these discredited political parties from power and elect new ones who ARE prepared to smash down the PC agenda and confront Islam in our societies head on.

    Sending senior British police women into Birmingham mosques wearing a headscarf to tell those inside to behave themselves is NOT sending the right message to those who have just been caught trying to take over public schools there.

    Too many heads are still in the sand, but the pressure’s still building on both sides, and when things kick off, I think I know who will get the blame in the MSM

  15. dumbledoresarmy says

    Jun 27, 2014 at 5:06 am

    The Ummah, or Mohammedan Mob, the Allah Gang, is the nurturing and sheltering sea within which the jihadis, allah’s Enforcers, swim and from which, ceaselessly, they emerge.

    Got Muslims? – Got Jihad.

    And the more numerically and/ or politically powerful the Ummah is in any given locality – suburb, district, town, state or province, nation or region – the more Jihad there will be.

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