Does Islam in fact have a “murderous contempt for women and homosexuals? Certainly there are many Muslim clerics and rank-and-file believers who believe that it does, approving of death sentences for gays, the honor killing of women, and the like. But for non-Muslims to point out that such views have a basis within Islamic texts and teachings is “Islamophobic.” Apologies must be issued.
“Politicians demand apology from Germany’s biggest-selling newspaper for editorial comment piece criticising Islam and accusing it of ‘murderous contempt for women and homosexuals,'” Daily Mail, July 28, 2014 (thanks to Blazing Cat Fur):
Germany’s biggest-selling newspaper has faced calls to apologise for an editorial comment piece criticising Islam which has sparked debate and controversy in the country.
Nicolaus Fest, the vice editor in chief of the newspaper Bild am Sonntag, was criticised after accusing Islam of a ‘murderous contempt for women and homosexuals’ in a comment piece yesterday.
Fest described the religion as ‘a barrier to integration’ saying: ‘I don’t believe in God, but at the same time Christianity, Judaism or Buddhism don’t bother me. Only Islam bothers me more and more.’
The newspaper has now responded to criticism after politicians described the piece as ‘racist’, The Local has reported.
What race is Sharia oppression of women and gays again? I keep forgetting.
According to the website, the comment piece had been shared more than 9,700 times on social media by this morning, with critics including Volker Beck, a member of the Green political party, calling for the paper to apologise.
Last night, Bild’s editor-in-chief Kai Diekmann wrote an editorial, which was posted online, saying there was an ‘unshakeable dividing line between Islam as a world religion and the degrading ideology of Islamism’.
He wrote: ‘That’s why in Bild and Axel Springer [publications] there is no room for generalized, depreciating comments against Islam and the people who believe in Allah.’
The comment piece was published in the wake of Germany’s condemnation of anti-Semitic chants and threats heard at some of the protests against Israel’s conflict with Hamas in Gaza….
Richie says
In addition to an apology, Im sure Muslims will demand money- and they will get both
Juan Eduardo says
God bless anyone who has the courage to “tell the truth about radical Islam” and Sharia Law etc. I am getting sick of Muslims moaning about everything and sucking on welfare in all European countries. I say stop all Muslim immigration immediately, and don’t tolerate their violent protesting.
Richie says
that would be common sense, but the west is run by leftists who seem to have a collective death wish for their own countries
johndcross1 says
Also, deport all muslim jihadists & savages from where they came from! Don’t believe that their religion has nothing to do with animal behaviour.
rabrooks says
Is it wrong to whish to destroy, the one who whishes to destroy you? Anybody please!
Juan Eduardo says
The news I’m about to provide for you means that your grandchildren will in fact live or die under Sharia Law, it’s unavoidable (as you will see in the attached video). Radical Muslims will not have to fight a civil war on the streets to take control of your country, all they have to do is win a federal election, which they eventually will “due to Islamic birth rates and excessive immigration policies”. So, no matter what you say in this forum, or whatever ideas you might have to try and stop the cancer from growing “you are wasting your time”. The free world as we know it today wll not exist in fifty years from now. Anyone who is intelligent enought to believe the facts in this video should not have any children, this is no joke.
Gail Griffin says
You know how clever the French are, they have invited the Iraqi Christian s to make France their new home. Should prove a good counter weight.
Porter Pudintain says
Well said!
All in the West / Christendom must stand strong against this cultural invasion and threat to our civilization and cherished notions developed over centuries of struggle.
Christopher S.M says
Correct, Juan. The west must stop being foolish by pretending that there is anything peaceful in islam. There is nothing in islam as moderation or peaceful islam and women have no value in that religion except as rewards from Allah to jihadist men. An anachronistic barbaric religion (that still talks about jizya or selling women in a sex market!!!) should not find acceptance in a civilized world of the 21st century.
Juan Eduardo says
In Canada the politicians kiss radical Islam ass until their lips bleed. The pandering is so out of control that the Liberal Party leader “Justin Trudeau” has now switched to Islam and takes his family to a mosque every week. This traitor should be charged and jailed for treason, as he knows very well that radical Islam is more dangerous to Canada than Adolf Hitler ever was. See this video for evidence: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRrJEMSV3Z4
Jaladhi says
Islam is a mafia like criminal enterprise. Doesn’t this latest demand of Muslims or their apologists prove it?
Richie says
Thats all they are, and the jizya they demand from their victims is Mafia style protection money. It boggles my mind that so many people are clueless about this.
jp says
Islam has a murderous contempt for: Jews, women, gays, Jews, Christians, Buddhists, Jews, Zoroastrians, Mormons, Jews, scientologists, Hindus, Jews, the wrong kind Muslims, Jews, ex Muslims, etc. Etc.
This is written in their holy books. No apology!
AnneM says
Remember Islam is from Satan the devil himself.
eib says
Murderous contempt is the essence of Islam.
Richardl says
Bild is indeed Germany’s biggest selling newspaper. I can honestly say I have never read it because they write anything that sells copy.
Them criticising islam is a big step and rather good news. Some serious newspapers – FAZ and Welt – have also criticised islam for the first time. So things are changing in Germany. Because public opinion is changing.
Yesterday the internal intelligence agency (Verfassungsschutz) publishedits report and highlighted two things: 40,000 “islamists” and the radicalisation (from contact with islam to jihad in Syria) is often only a couple of months. That also is a big step for Germany because the Verfassungsschutz always stresses how dangerous the 3 Nazis in Germany are and how lovely the Left and the Muslims are.
Donovan Nuera says
I wish the Islamists would “take a hint” and leave these peaceful European countries. I am surprised that they have not forced the socialist leaders in Berlin to shutter all the sausage factories and breweries so as not to hurt their hyperfragile histrionic feelings. A recent article describing the angst of Islamists in northern Sweden who realize that their “perfect” Koran did not spell out for them when they can eat during the ramadan fasting when the sun doesn’t even set in the summer. I guess Allah is not all that omniscent after all….I hope the editors at Bild stick by their strudel and double down with another editorial. When enough “important” people in a society speak up, you’d be amazed when the “little” people finally have the courage to speak their mind and not mince words. Germany needs to outlaw islam as a cult just as they did with Scientology freaks; Denmark, Norway, France, UK, Netherlands, Belgium, Italy, and Spain would follow the next day but are waiting for a nation with backbone…
Gail Griffin says
People are coming out of the woods. I had great conversation s with 2 former leftists who have done an about change in their views on life.
FatherJon says
Before very much longer they’ll be demanding public executions for criticising Islam, as they do in the more radical Islamic countries. Germany, and other European countries, are going to have to stand up against these people or be prepared to be subjugated.
FJ
Edward Cline says
Bild’s editor-in-chief should tell the critics and the Muslims to go shoe a goose.
dsinc says
Don’t apologise for telling the truth.
ECAW says
“unshakeable dividing line between Islam as a world religion and the degrading ideology of Islamism”
I thought this was the most telling part – unshakeable yet totally fictitious. Our leaders cling to this fake distinction as the best way they know to avoid the reality of Islam. Fortunately devout Muslims worldwide are making it more and more obvious that it is untenable (kidnapping schoolgirls, beheading soldiers, subverting schools and now openly screaming their scripturally justified Jew hatred).
The big question is what will happen when it is no longer remotely sustainable and the people realise firstly that they have been deceived and secondly just what they have imported into their countries.
ps shameless publicity bid here (likes and comments needed in order to make the place look a bit lived in):
https://www.facebook.com/pages/EDL-Guardian-Readers-Division/587126894731259?sk=timeline#
Centurion_Cornelius says
Apology?
NEIN!
to these
SWINEN!
Chris says
There are many of us on the ‘left’ that see thru the lies that Islamist and ‘Jihadist’ individuals spread. In the Quran itself, it says that it is okay for Muslims to tell lies in order to protect the word of Islam when speaking to ‘Infidels’ (you who are Christian, or Jewish or Catholic, or Lutheran, or Baptist, etc. etc..) So what they tell YOU and what they talk about with other Muslims are two different things. You can not be racist against Islam, it is a religion, people of many different races and cultures are in every religion, so that’s another example of a deflection, trying to gain the upper hand when they don’t have a leg to stand on. Muslims are to be treated like anyone else, not different, and not special.
Poggie says
Any curious observer can easily discover the truth of Islam by visiting http://www.thereligionofpeace.com A daily and archived site of occurring news article from around the world. No one has to speak against Islam, Islam speaks loud and clear what an abomination this false religion is.
Angemon says
Oh, the islamophobia of it all! How can any given muslim read such vile words and not get his feeling hurt? How can any given muslim react differently than with violence to such denigration of islam? What else can those poor, poor muslims when faced with such racist hate do other than attacking the natives?
/sarc off
Steffen Larsen says
The German newspapers need only look at what almost happened to Danish newspapers on two occasions, and they’ll realise that offending the Religion of Peace™, Tolerance©, Equality©, Bridge Building© etc etc simply is not the wisest course of action, there’s a good fellow.
tpeloow says
And we know which political side the West’s MSM will take on this, in the choice between that of freedom, and that of Islam.
Jarok says
Greetings from germany!
In our country you can’t say or write what you think – even when it’s your own, individual opinion. Nearly every german (not the politicians or any other rich people) has made identical experiences with muslim people (mostly turkish people): they can hit people (not only germans), rob them, even kill them without being really punished. Everyday you can read (or see it live) about violent and agressive behaviour, robberies, killings. If (!) it’s mentioned in a online-newspaper, not a single word in the text that it was done by our ‘Kulturbereichererer’
(cultural raisers – pc word for foreigners in germany) but people with brain (or eyes) know it because germans (or italians, greeks, polish people aso.) won’t attack with knives or guns or ‘fight’ 30vs1 and kick heads until they crack – the comment option in such articles are closed, due to the fact of the ‘Nazikeule’ (Nazimace) which means that you can’t say the truth or you are a Nazi (hitten by the mace). And the ‘Nazikeule’ (wielded by so called ‘Gutmenschen’ which means people who always think that the victim has made cultural sensitive mistakes or is a Nazi) works everywhere, everyday. It works in the media, it works in the justice system: Some young muslims are really proud of their police record – it’s not rare (I worked at a court) that (then they are defendants) that they get probation (they needed to do what they did because their religion was in some kind offended and that’s okay for german judges because they don’t want to be Nazis or they were threatened by the family of the defendant), often the 9th, 10th or 11th time. Logically they think that’s hilarious and they go on with robbery and violence as usual – some are even that dumb (so might be thought about it) that they laugh about the german justice system in front of a tv cam or they upload it by themselves at YouTube. Be aware to tell anyone what you think then – the Nazikeule is above you! I hate the wrong political correctness in germany! I only want to live peaceful with my neighbours here but some won’t let us, they hit us (that begins at elemantary school or even the Kindergarten), they rob us and sometimes they kill us – and we aren’t allowed to say anything because we will be Nazis! My father was a foreigner from Bosnia, I’m german. It’s really hard to gain friends in the turkish or any other muslim community – too much of them think (and say!) that the ‘kuffar’ (non-believing) are scrap – at the other hand I never had any trouble with greek, dutch, polish, english, french, italian or spanish people. No one is guilty from it’s birth – except the germans, they will be Nazis for 1000 years! Did you know that the turkish prime minister Erdogan told millions of his people here in germany that, sooner or later, they will be the majority here and they would then lead the country. The comment option was closed.
PS Please apologize my bad english.
ECAW says
Many thanks to Jarok for that eloquent description of the situation in Germany. It sounds much like how things are in England (just without the Nazi bit), Denmark (according to Nikolai Sennels), Holland, Belgium, France, Sweden etc. It’s pure madness isn’t it?
dumbledoresarmy says
Willkommen, Jarok.
Welcome to the ad hoc and de facto *real life* equivalent of Rowling’s fictional “Order of the Phoenix”.
Thank you for your “report from the ground”, where the Nothing that is Islam (did you ever read Michael Ende’s book Die Unendliche Geschichte, or see the film?) is blighting Germany.
And bless you, mate. Hang in there. Refuse to surrender. Look for friends and colleagues and try to think of ways to work together to help each other. Remember the courage of Susanne Zeller-Hirzel, and Sophie Scholl, of the White Rose Society.
Perhaps it needs to be re-formed, to resist the Jihad.
PS. How long have you been reading here? And how did you first come across jihadwatch? (Questions I often ask of new posters, because the answers are always interesting).
Even if you are not a Christian, I hope the following may lift your spirits.
epistemology says
Fest means firm and I hope Mr. Fest will remain firm and doesn’t apologize. I’m a liberal Jew and couldn’t agree more with his article. I know people from all cultures and get along with them. I don’t care what people believe, it can be utter nonsense like “the moon is made of green cheese”. It doesn’t bother me.
But there’s a big difference between believing and practicing. They may believe that their moon idol created the world and that their anti-Semitic self-appointed prophet-a serial killer and sex offender-is the best person who ever lived on this planet. I don’t care. But what I care about is Islamic practicing which encompasses all of life meaning that Islam is always political. Muslims want to impose their barbaric law, the sharia, everywhere they go, , they want to kill Jews wherever they find them and they want to put an end to the times of freedom of speech. That’s why Islam doesn’t belong in the civilised world. Get rid of the scum!
epistemology says
Oh, I forgot to add a German convert to Islam who drinks like fish btw poured a glass of beer on my head in a pub. We had an argument, he’s anti-Semitic to the core. All Western converts to Islam are despicable, but the German ones are even worse they’re all Nazis.
Kim Symonds says
Finally some one who has the guts to stand up to Islam. It seems the Political Elite have lost the balls to stand up against a total barbaric fascist ideology.
Jarok says
Greetings from Germany!
Today the online version of the Spiegel (mirror) published a inquiry (!) about the criminal behaviour of young people in germany. Not surprisingly, the two ‘scientists’ which were assigned to do this inquiry, had established that young people in germany with a (especially islamic) migration background aren’t more criminal than other ‘germans’ without a migration background. The inquiry was payed by the german migration agency – in germany we call such practice ‘Wes’ Brot ich ess’ des’ Lied ich sing’!’ (Who’s bread I eat who’s song I sing). In other words: this inquiry is crap! I think Winston Churchill said once ‘I only believe the statistics I faked myself!’. But the german community isn’t that dumb – proofed by several hundred forum comments (wondered that it wasn’t closed after a few minutes but I believe it will – including the deleting of all these, really not hateful but truth speaking posts). Most germans are peaceful and friendly and neither anti-semitic or against foreigners but during the last 20, 25 years they made more and more bad experiences with especially moslemic people. And most germans know when they were told a lie. Don’t misunderstood me – I met a lot friendly and mind opened people of islamic believing but I made also too much bad experiences. Really bad experiences. Only at school, 20 years ago, I and many other ones that look ‘too german’ received beatings and robberies – we couldn’t defend ourselves really because of minimum 3vs1. The teachers looked to another side. And if we hit one of them in defence they passed us by after school in even greater numbers. People on the streets looked aside. Confrontated with our parents, the school director (or dean, don’t know how it’s called in english) called them, sooner or later, Nazis (the ‘Nazikeule’ hitted again). So, schooltime wasn’t that great for me and many others that looked ‘too german’. And today it’s even worse. You can’t go to public swimming (in EVERY bigger city) because there are hordes of young muslims that occupy the whole swimming pools, beat and rob people who are ‘german looking’ (or beat someone that might looked in the direction of a muslim women), won’t let them jump from towers (or only for money), they annoy the girls that are wearing bikinis (because the ‘bitches’ want it that way). The bath attendents can’t do anything because they have no authority in the eyes of these people. The called police often has to evacuate the whole bath with a great number of officers. The comment option was closed. We really want to talk open minded about all these things but we may not! I hate the wrong political correctnes. If something is wrong I want to talk about it! I want to live peaceful here, without having fear taking the subway or walking through the parks! The germans (99% maybe) aren’t Nazis but they will, sooner or later, defend themselves and then it’s going really, really ugly. Another thing that really pi**ed me were the reportings in the international press about the new ‘anti-semitic wave’ in germany because of hundreds of demonstrations from muslimic people against israel who cried anti-semitic and even Nazi slogans. THESE PEOPLE AREN’T GERMANS!!! They use the right of free speech for these slogans (that are nethertheless forbidden and punished but only if you’re german). So…can we talk open minded about all these problems? It doesn’t seem so…reportings and comments are censored…the whole thing will blow up sooner or later! Let us talk about it and don’t hide all this under the cloak of wrong political correctness!
Jarok says
PS If someone want to really know the truth about criminal islamic young people could read the official police statistics or visit any jail here in germany – but this is undiscutable and if you want to discuss about it: ‘Nazikeule’!