Lord Scott is no doubt unaware that Muslim women are forbidden to marry non-Muslim men, and even if he is aware of this element of Islamic law, he almost certainly doesn’t realize its supremacist intent — that the non-Muslim community is meant to decline while the Muslim community flourishes. In any case, if he thinks interfaith marriages would cure “Islamophobia,” what does he recommend as a remedy for jihad terror?
Anthony Weiner, pictured here with his wife Huma Abedin, is Jewish, not Christian. She is Muslim. It remains unknown whether they ignored this stipulation of Islamic law, or whether he quietly converted to Islam. It’s “Islamophobic” to ask.
“Christians should marry Muslims to tackle Islamophobia, says peer,” by Owen Bennett, Express, July 8, 2014 (thanks to all who sent this in):
Lord Scott, a former Supreme Court Judge, cited his own family – in which two of his four children married Muslims – as an example of how interfaith families can thrive.
The peer, who sits as a crossbencher in the Lords, made the comments during a debate on how to improve relations between the Muslim community and other faith groups in the UK.
He said: “Of my two sons one has become a Muslim and of my two daughters one of those has become a Muslim, and I have 12 lovely grandchildren, seven of whom are little Muslims.
He added: “The family relationships since those events took place have been as happily familial, as close and as good as any parent or grandparent could wish.
“I do just wonder that if an improvement is needed between the faith groups, one way of promoting that might be to encourage interfaith marriages.”
Responding for the Government, Baroness Warsi said: “It’s important that we allow people to marry somebody of their choosing whatever faith they belong to, and that’s why I’m incredibly proud that the Government has done so much work on the issue of forced marriages, including criminalising a practice which should have been criminalised a long time ago.”
Would Baroness Warsi support a measure criminalizing the prohibition on non-Muslim men marrying Muslim women?
KrazyKafir says
My word. Is there still a prize for the greatest dhimmi stooge on this planet?
jihad3tracker says
Please do not insult the long & magnificent careers of Larry, Moe, Curly, Shemp and Curly Joe.
Compared to Lord Scott, those guys could solve interstellar physics problems with one hand tied behind their periodic tables….
thomas_h says
“… the greatest dhimmi stooge on this planet?”
Not dhimmi. PIMP is the correct word.
Dhimmis are the people who have been exposed to terror and murderous persecution by mohamedans. For them to survive was either to convert to mohammedanism or to sumbit to it and accept the humiliation of dhimmitude.
People who import mohammedans to the west and remake the West so it is acceptable to islam are not terrorized to submission. They are pimps supplying the aliens troops with services and commodities – including virgins.
Shane says
He is an ignorant dhimmi. The children of Muslims are considered Muslims from birth and can be executed for apostasy if they convert to another religion.
Jaladhi says
This “Lord” is a finest example of West’s stupidity. He is suggesting this Christian-Muslim marriage even after knowing that his own son and daughter became Muslim(or had to become Muslim before marriage). Why doesn’t he come out and say all Christians in Britain should become Muslim to keep peace in Britain. MORON!!!
Also how many of warsi’s sons or daughters have married Christians and allowed them keep their Christian religion?? Talk is cheap- hey Warsi!!
David says
Excellent reply!
When In Britainistan people who marry Muslims must become Muslims, and when in Muslim countries, non-Muslims must become Muslims. In all cases, is always the ‘infidels’ who must give way. The boneheaded “Lord’s” suggestion for more inter-faith marriages is a progressively cloaked way of calling for more people to become Muslims.
BC says
More to the point how many muslims have married non Muslims and not had their spouse convert? Of course if a Muslim leaves their faith we know the penalty can be murder.
The Roman Catholics are no better they try to insist that a non RC converts when marrying an RC, or a least swear to bring up children as RC. I am not sure how ofteb this is observed nowadays, but I am sure that enforcement is still attempted. Most of the public are of the opinion that many of the Lords and senior judges are senile and this will convince them. This man should be be stripped of his honours as he is a traitor to the country and its culture as he wants everyone to become a Muslim, just like the supremicists do.
umbra says
For Catholic marriages (recognised by the church), couples (even if both are Catholics) must “promise” to raise their children in the faith. There are no corporal or capital punishments for failure to fulfil this promise. For those who do not wish to make such a promise, then they can still have a civil marriage. Again, no corporal or capital punishment associated with for civil marriage.
robert curtis says
BC you are so correct , the people who should know better , the are a load of imbecilic traitors
gravenimage says
I’m sorry, BC—this is silly moral equivalence. Roman Catholics don’t *murder* people who leave the faith—but this is the law in Islam for apostates.
Jay Boo says
gravenimage
I believe that BC whom I shall refer to here as (Before Christ)
is a very intelligent but ‘needy’ commenter.
In fact BC needs no reminder that “this is silly moral equivalence”
The phrasing of “The Roman Catholics are no better”
is meant to illicit a response.
Some commenters are so desperate for attention and have such a need to get a response back that they resort to obvious gimmicks.
Real ‘moral equivalence’ would surely have a much better disguise than this.
BC is not naïve just desperate for attention.
So sad, so very sad.
miriam rove says
where do these people come from? M
jihad3tracker says
Hatched in the classrooms of Eton, feathered at the clubs of London.
What a life of privilege leads to in our recently concluded century ….
John Magee says
Remember the British Marxist traitors Philby, Maclean, Burgess, and Blunt? Those four and many others flowered at Cambridge and betrayed their country. Oxford had its share of traitors too. Now these self loathing indigenous upper class Brits turn to Islam as a way to destroy their country. I will not be surprised if we see members of the Royal Family converting to Islam in this or coming generations. They bend with the wind for self and if that wind comes from Mecca you will see these worms convert to Islam. What genetic defect inspires many elitist Europeans to welcome their coming self destruction by welcoming a massive Muslim migration into their midst?
Mark Berlinger says
This defect is that to them God and religion is only a means to a worldly end.
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
Here in the States we have Harvard, Yale and Columbia. Even worse, the pedigree puppy diploma mill thing is growing, expanding into new franchises such as Georgetown, Duke and the University of Southern California. Ain’t bragging, but American is bigger than England, and we can out-do you guys any day in matters of suicide-by-Islam-assisted-by-elite.
john spielman says
Satan
John Stefan Obeda says
Being a judge the world considers Lord Scott to be a wise man, but what counts is the judgment of God. In God’s eyes he is not a wise man for he is denying God’s truth which is: “I am the way, the truth, and the life, no man cometh unto the Father but by Me” and “Be thou faithful unto death and I will give thee a crown of life.” I would not want to see any of my family to start traveling on the wide road to destruction for Jesus Who atoned for our sin and rose from the dead is our only Saviour and there is none other.
john spielman says
and what has light in common with darkness, or Christ with Belial-Satan/Allah , except that the light (Christ ) will overcome the darkness.
This man is completely STUPID and CLUELESS about islam and certainly no follower of Jesus the Christ and Son of God . PLUS St Paul warns about Christians marrying non Christians ( unequally yoked)
Rezali Mehil says
John asks….”and what has light in common with darkness”.
Well John it is a cycle isn’t it….after the directionless and watered down darkness of Christianity via the reformation…along comes the noor of Islam.
There is a sort of fascination to Islam which even Lords who have everything at their finger tips cannot ignore. It is good that a prominent figure comes up and says this….it dispels the myth that Islam and wealth are not compatible.
I think he just needed to clarify and add that christian *women* should marry muslim *men* in line with having a “salt and pepper” effect in British society and that christian women can make for good muslimahas.
IMHO children of such a product are the luckiest of all ….kufr parents “pollute” and these will be a unique crop who although having a semblance of kufr blood have nevertheless started the lineage purification process.
Kudos to the Lord (LOL that sounds dirty) …
More Later…..
Rezali
bicky says
Here is “Rasooli” again, entertaining us with her/his incoherence
thomas_h says
Rezali, as it appears to me you are quite informed about mohammedanism, I would like, once again, to ask you a question which has been with me since I first read about the person and life of your prophet Muhammad as described in the Hadiths.
So here goes:
why did your god Allah would chose, out of all people, a degenerate pig (muhammad) to be his prophet?
I know, I have been asking that before, but you somehow never responded to my simple inquiry. So how about now?
Buraq says
@ Rezali the five-star, red-nosed, baggy-trousered, wire-wigged clown!
It doesn’t matter who you are or how much money you’ve got, getting in tow with Islam is to declare yourself morally and intellectually bankrupt. Now that’s real poverty.
More later ………….:)
john spielman says
Dear Ms Rezali: It is NOT a cycle! the problem is that you are deeply deceived by that old Muhammedan lie that the Bible has been changed. But there exists NO EVIDENCE for that, infact the Dead Sea Scrolls discovered by muslims show that the Old Testament is unchanged ( there is a complete copy of the book of Isaiah which dates to 200 BC – over 700 years before your pseudo prophet was even born! With the New Testament there are thousands of parchments and manuscripts that demonstrate the the accuracy of the Bible with dates 300-400 years before your Muhammed was even born!
You see Ms Rezali time is running out for you. You will die in your sins and there is no guarantee that you have earned your way to heaven. In fact John 3: 16-18 says you cannot enter the kingdom of heaven because your sins have NOT BEEN FORGIVEN by God!
For me, I don’t have that problem because Jesus paid the penalty for my sins and as Paul the apostle said ” for me to live is Christ and to die is gain” and ” to be absent from the body(die) is to be present with the Lord”!
Kepha says
Seems how you beat me to the punch about Lord Scott’s ignorance of Paul’s instructions:
I daresay Rezali knows more about Jesus Christ than Lord Scott. I’m betting that Rezali knows that Jesus (a) was born of a virgin, (b) rode a donkey on occasion, (c) had disciples, (d) now sits body and soul in heaven, and (d) will come again to judge the living and the dead (including Mo, I suppose). I doubt that Lord Scott knows that much–even if he calls himself a “Christian”.
John Stefan Obeda says
John, dear brother John, let me encourage you to reconsider what you have written. “In fact John 3: 16-18 says you cannot enter the kingdom of heaven because your sins have NOT BEEN FORGIVEN by God!” I (an 84 year old conservative Lutheran retired clergyman) believe that God teaches universal reconciliation. God in Christ reconciled the world unto Himself. The word “world” includes every human being, including all Muslims. God’s great love for the whole world caused Him to send Jesus into the world to atone for the sins of the world including the unbelieving Islamists who are traveling on the wide road to hell. Jesus has won the forgiveness of sins for them, but they and all who reject Jesus to be their God and Saviour are still going to hell because they are putting their trust in themselves and in their own works and they are rejecting God’s free offer of forgiveness by His grace for the sake of His beloved Son Who had to suffer and die to pay the ransom for their sins. These things are true for Jesus rose from the dead as He said that He would do. God can’t stand it when the innocent blood of His beloved Son is wasted. He will surely cast those who reject Him away from Himself forever. It’s a great tragedy. But it is of their own doing. So many people insist in going their own way and in rejecting God’s way. Isn’t this all correct John. God has reconciled the entire world unto Himself, but they who reject it cannot spend eternity with God. (2Cor.5:16-21). . . . God have mercy on our country and God bless the una sancta, the holy Christian church and may God smartin’ up our sleeping political leaders.
Jørgen Moisejeff says
There are no words in the english language to properly describe your level of stupidity
gravenimage says
The vile Rezali Mehil wrote:
John asks….”and what has light in common with darkness”.
Well John it is a cycle isn’t it….after the directionless and watered down darkness of Christianity via the reformation…along comes the noor of Islam.
……………………………………
There is no light in Islam—it is a malevolent and brutal creed straight out of the Dark Ages.
More:
There is a sort of fascination to Islam which even Lords who have everything at their finger tips cannot ignore. It is good that a prominent figure comes up and says this….it dispels the myth that Islam and wealth are not compatible.
……………………………………
What crap. It’s not as though Lord Scott had had some sot of revelation about Islam—instead, he’s just mouthing pc platitudes.
And it is not that Islam and wealth are incompatible—it is that Islam and the *earning* of wealth are incompatible
Many Muslims have become rich through booty and theft throughout the centuries.
More:
I think he just needed to clarify and add that christian *women* should marry muslim *men* in line with having a “salt and pepper” effect in British society and that christian women can make for good muslimahas.
……………………………………
Yes—because Muslim women can only be owned by Muslim men—but Muslim men can own Muslim women.
And this foolish lord doesn’t realize how many of these women he would be sentencing to a life of wife-beating and even Honor Killing. *Ugh*.
And the only “salt and pepper” effect is the slow, ugly takeover of civilized Britain by barbaric Islam.
All children of such a union are, of course, considered Muslim—‚and this is true even if the Muslim abandons the family.
This is *exactly* what happened to the poor Christian women in the Sudan being threatened with imprisonment and death.
More:
IMHO children of such a product are the luckiest of all …
……………………………………
And why would that be? Because they are symbols of Muslim supremacy? Or because they can despise their mothers even more unreservedly than most Muslims, since she is just a “filthy Kuffar”? *Ugh*.
Jan Fourowls says
FUBAR = Islam.
FUBAR = What passes for “marriage” among Muslims.
FUBAR = Virtual slavery of all non-Muslims where Muslims have ruling political power.
FUBAR = How Muslims will feel about themselves after the judgment day of the real God (not the fake Allah of Mohammadanism)
FUBAR = What it will be like for Muslims on what Jews and Christians call the ultimate and final “Day of the Lord”
As a believer in true religion (not Islam the demonic counterfeit), I’m almost enjoying the anticipation and hoping that Day might arrive in my lifetime. Wouldn’t expect to be “pre-trib raptured” as a Christian (not that it’s a likely scenario based on weak scriptural exegesis, soon to be a Hollywood movie so what does that tell you). I’d rather enjoy seeing the looks on the faces of the unrepentant murderous Islamic deceivers when God has His way. Even more I’d rather they change their hearts and minds and find the loving true God of the Bible who’d welcome them for all eternity … but my religion tells me that’s not too likely.
P.S. My view of hell is not Dante’s —so I’m not talking about something like eternal scorching fire but the knowledge forever of having made the wrong choice, the emotional anguish of being separated from one’s Maker, that sort of thing that the kinder theologians who aren’t Rob Bell believe about hell. Or, perhaps hell as annihilation (which has a theological following and would be my preference, but I cannot fully square it with either OT or NT of the Bible.) But imagine when young jihadists die thinking they’re getting virgins, and virgins, and virgins, oh my, only to find out that they’re getting God’s wrath instead.
Jørgen Moisejeff says
I am a christian, and I am married to a buddist and after 6 and a half years we are still doing fine. Needless to say that it might not have been so, but in our case it works
gravenimage says
That’s great—I’m very happy for you. Of course, neither Christianity nor Buddhism are violent, supremacist creeds, as Islam is.
thomas_h says
London 2014:
“Christians should marry Muslims to tackle Islamophobia, says peer,”
Oslo: 1941:
Our women should go to bed with German soldiers to tackle anti-German sentiments in Norway, says Vidkun Quisling.
ecosse1314 says
Scottish and English aristocracy are so inbred that they probably have a fellow feeling with the muslims.
Reality Check says
Ha-Ha! That was the perfect retort! And Lord Scott is the living proof that centuries of inbreeding are not doing any favours to the intellect and rational thought!
medina says
We can only hope that one of the lord’s little muslim grandkids does not slit his throat someday when old dhimmi grand dad has outlived his usefulness.
Angemon says
“He said: “Of my two sons one has become a Muslim and of my two daughters one of those has become a Muslim, and I have 12 lovely grandchildren, seven of whom are little Muslims.”
Translation: Hey guys, look at me, i’m not an islamophobe because half my kids became muslims and i have musim grandkids, so everyone stop criticizing a supremacist ideology and get on converting to islam so we can all live together in multicultural bliss.
Dumbass.
““I do just wonder that if an improvement is needed between the faith groups, one way of promoting that might be to encourage interfaith marriages.””
The only faith with interfaith issues is islam. Marrying into islam is not going to solve that problem anymore than burning forests will solve forest fires. Dumb. Dumb. DUMB!!!
http://www.raymondibrahim.com/from-the-arab-world/muslim-husbands-must-hate-non-muslim-wives/
I wonder if his children converted to islam because they studied all religions in the world and were convinced by islam’s theological arguments or because they needed to just to get married. Are they respecting ramadan or are they just nominal muslims? Does his son still goes out to the pub watch the game and have a few pints with his chaps? Is his daughter cosplaying a tent every time she leaves the house? They better not be half-assing it, the only thing muslims hate more than kuffar are muslims who don’t go full islam.
So, how long until his son/daughter/grandkids show up in Syria?
DVult says
An interfaith marriage is where the two parties have different religions and they keep their different religions. In this case his idiot children converted to islam in order to enter into an islamic marriage. This dope is a judge yet he cannot make this distinction.
Jan Fourowls says
“Interfaith” in the U.S. has become code for Islamic supremacy.
I’ve had to leave a church this year because of the senior pastor’s dhimmi “interfaith” acquiescence to imam-ic overture, because I don’t want any of my money going to “interfaith” ministry and being funneled indirectly to terrorists behind the veil of the mosque. So far, so good, on finding an alternative for Sunday worship but with many Christians and their churches falling away from sound doctrine — as predicted in the Bible for the end times, not to sound like a broken record, it’s just something I correlate — who knows how long it will last before we who are faithful adherents all turn to house churches even in the U.S.
John Stefan Obeda says
Jan, your faith and your attitude does my heart good. You’re a good example. Thank you.
mortimer says
In opposing forced marriage (child marriages), Baroness Warsi ipso facto criticizes Mohammed, declaring thereby that his example is not ‘perfect’ and not a role model for others to follow.
By opposing forced marriage, Baroness Warsi is opposing the orthodox Islam of the consensus of mullahs through the ages. Baroness Warsi is a Muslim heretic or a ‘munafiq’ who should be executed according to Sharia law which is being enforced in UK!!!
Does she realize that?
voegelinian says
Nah; she’s following Mohammed’s higher law: to try to deceive the enemy when necessary for the larger goal of the jihad.
Jan Fourowls says
Exactly! Want to know when Muslims (of any race, converts or cradle Muslims) are lying? Their lips are moving.
Brian Hoff says
The frounder of Islam didnot believe in force marriage than force marriage is when than man force than woman to marry him . Child marriage is than other issue. In americaq there are muslim woman who have marry n0n-muslim man and later on the man convert to Islam. I find it interesting that many ev christian say that Roman Cath arenot christian.
ecosse1314 says
Why force an adult female when you can coerce a 6 year old.
Jan Fourowls says
Sad and sick but funny because, well, we get to laugh to keep from crying about the evil that is Islam.
ecosse1314 says
I hope that answers your post but as I am only partially fluent in gibberish I can’t be certain.
Angemon says
defenderofislam posted
“The frounder of Islam didnot believe in force marriage than force marriage is when than man force than woman to marry him”
“Frounder”? More like “ivantror”. Anyway, forced marriages are sanctioned in Islam. All you need to marry a prepubescent girl to a man old enough to be her grandfather is the consent of her father. Like Aisha, who lost her hair after knowing she was to marry muhammad.
“Child marriage is than other issue”
Are you saying that children are never married against their will?
“In americaq there are muslim woman who have marry n0n-muslim man and later on the man convert to Islam.”
I think you have the time line confused…
“I find it interesting that many ev christian say that Roman Cath arenot christian.”
You know, i could go and point out that when it comes to calling co-religionists heretics islam takes the cake and that evangelical and catholic christians aren’t going around beheading and crucifying each other for not being true christians, but that would probably be similar to a tu quoque, so i’ll just point out that whatever evangelical christians think of catholics is unrelated to marrying muslims to fight “islamophobia”.
Jan Fourowls says
“other issue” you say — “other” like the part of the Quran where Muslim males get to marry (euphemism for rape) up to four orphans (euphemism for little girls left over as spoils of war after Muslim men kill their parents) and then beat them (plain language) into submission (that’s pretty straightforward, too)?
“other”— like the Quran’s section about “Women” because the unholy book is really only a hate-crimes war manual for men who follow the warring and raping and pedophilic example of the “prophet Muhammad”?
Please don’t answer; the questions are rhetorical. Plus by tomorrow when I look again at JW there will be many new Muslim atrocities upon which to comment if time permits, or at least to read.
Jan Fourowls says
Above reply to “Brian Hoff.” Why did I even waste a brain cell on somebody so clearly brainwashed?
gravenimage says
“Brian Hoff”—really, “DefenderofIslam”—wrote:
The frounder of Islam didnot believe in force marriage than force marriage is when than man force than woman to marry him . Child marriage is than other issue.
…………………………….
My God, what crap. The “frounder of Islam” engaged in forced marriage, in rape, and in the taking of sex slaves.
And child marriage is *by its very definition* forced marriage.
The vile “DefenderofIslam” may believe that a six-year-old child is capable of consent, but no civilized person believes that. *Ugh*.
Wellington says
Just when you thought…… Yes, along comes Lord Scott.
Mary_Gonzales says
This kind of speech starts the destruction of the west. And he is not alone. I said to you : The most dangerous destruction of the Christians is not Muslim or Islam, or Jew, or Arab or Chinese or anything else, but the degenerate of their Christianity.
Can you figure how many Christian become non Christian nowadays? How many Church already empty nowadays?
voegelinian says
Not to mention the millions of active church-going Christians throughout the West whose hearts and minds have become infected by the PC MC Neurosis, moving them to sing and clap along to the Kumbaya Hymnal.
Jan Fourowls says
Very good point, Mary.
Islam converts American teens who don’t have any strong home-training in Christianity.
It has been predicted by end-times eschatology of the Bible that there would and will continue to be a falling away from the real faith. (But that also many would come to stronger Christian faith — which has certainly happened for me, backslider that I totally was — that people would continue to receive salvation wherever the gospel is preached, plus changes indicated like the rise today in Messianic Jews worldwide.)
The postmodern socially relevant, morally relativistic, no-repentance “I’m okay/you’re okay” psychobabble and trying to run church like a multiplex movie house was the start of the downfall in the American churches. This was aided by seminaries and divinity schools infiltrated by those who no longer believed in a literal resurrection, no longer taught the literal and deeper meaning of the cross, no longer brought people to Jesus Christ who knew they were sinners (and always would be until the end) yet were through grace forgiven with character reformation ongoing in the faith.
Pew researchers, http://www.pewresearch.org/, have statistics on declining denominations in the U.S., etc. And also those who are nominal Christians but don’t do much with it. Some still-growing megachurches and denominations are doing so with a watered-down gospel that really doesn’t have much Jesus (or Father or Holy Spirit) to it as the Bible specifies — some people there might be able to find truth, however, because Jesus is good at drawing seekers and backsliders to Him as well as to what’s real and lasting about Christianity. (It happened for me; it can happen for anybody.)
If you love Jesus, may you and all your friends and family come to Him even stronger, too, in this time!
John Stefan Obeda says
Yes, Mary. I think that it is correct to think that we Christians can do a lot of damage to the Christian church and to the mission of the church which is to extend Christ’s kingdom. God bless us to be careful what we believe and what we teach and how we live. Even here let us be careful of our attitude and words toward the enemies of the Holy Trinity.
Himalayan Pony says
mary_gonzales: so you write:”Can you figure how many Christian become non Christian nowadays? How many Church already empty nowadays?”
That is something that you cannot judge because if a person is really a believer of Christ, if the person has REALLY accepted Jesus in his/her heart, there is no question of leaving Him, that is not even possible, even in the face of death. All the others if they are namesake Christians, who don’t have a close relationship with Christ, can always fall away (read Matthew 13). Due to this reason, you can’t put “all” Christians into one box. You don’t need to gloat over how many churches are empty. The real church is a person, in whose hearts God dwells. God knows the people’s hearts.
voegelinian says
Regarding George Clooney’s engagement to the Muslima Amal Alamuddin, one should also note that Clooney had remained for decades the “Untouchable Bachelor”, with a string of girlfriends, but always adamantly vowing he would never get married. This indicates the distinct possibility that this was a special form of jihad operation against a typical (but decidedly influential) Western gull, the Jihad af-Fiancee.
Myxlplik says
I doubt these marriages will last, the Muslima see’s a prize for Islam won by feminine wiles, the men get lots of easy sex for the price of playing along with some spiritual fantasies. When they are finally bored with playing hide the sausage with their Musgina they’ll chalk it up to good sex and some freaky shit on the side.
Myxlplik says
That said, Islam is at war with our culture on every level. It seeks to replace and become the dominant culture through warfare in every facet of society, from Islamic finance, jihad warfare, Halal food and yes even sex. We’ll I say turn the tables just shag as many of them as you can if they have this agenda, why not use it to just get laid for a while, there has to be some up side to it.
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
I wonder what the ratio will be in all these new Infidel-Moslem marraiges to come. Will it be half-and-half, with as many Moslem women getting their loving Infidel guys as hairy bearded dudes getting the white girl? Just wondering is all.
And will the Infidel spouses voluntarily convert to the Holy Islam with about the same frequency? And, I am assuming here that the half-Moslem children will all be raised as Moslems.
Boy, that photo of Anthony with his Moslima brings to my mind Grover Norquist.
Tom says
When Hillary marries her girlfriend, Huma Abedin, she’ll probably have to convert to Islam. There’s the potential the US will have back-to-back Muslim presidents.
Jan Fourowls says
Before then, Hillary can fall back on the words her husband used: “I did not have sex with that woman.”
LOL: back-to-back Muslim presidents.
Although Bobby Jindal is looking mighty Christian these days, more than he used to, and who knows with the new wave of low-information voters and all that “Citizens United”(choke on the name) big-bank-bailout-big-oil-pro-Islam corporate campaign financing money going to red and blue candidates alike? Oh, what was I thinking? No campaign $ unless “Christians” agree as a side deal to Interfaith = Islamic supremacy (because Americans have been so “phobic” about the Muslim terrorists who want to kill us when they haven’t already).
devonoagon says
Oh why did Robert post a picture of my former P.O.S. congressman who did nothing for my community other then make the Jewish community of Queens look bad on many levels?
Kepha says
devonoagon, that abstracted schm**k made my section of the country (the Eastern Seaboard) look bad!
Aion says
Maybe because he is married to a Muslim himself, but it is odd to use this picture.
Champ says
I am trying to make sense of Lord Scott’s crazy-talk …jeez did someone pay or threaten him to say something so ridiculous and ill-informed? Wow islam on the whole defies basic common sense, and now this …
Wellington says
The saddest thing of all, Champ, is, I fear, that Lord Scott is totally sincere. No need, eh, for Islam to threaten when clueless dhimmis do its bidding willingly?
Well, sincerity without wisdom and knowledge, and especially when accompanied by power and influence, is destructive to the maximum often times. Lord Scott is a fine exhibit here. I submit that people like Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton are too.
Strange and dangerous times we live in. Personally speaking, I’d like to see less strangeness and less danger, but then such is dependent on proper knowledge which is a declining commodity these days.
Hope you are doing well, Champ. Always good to see your posts here at JW.
voegelinian says
Unfortunately, there is nothing terribly anomalous about Lord Scott’s ejaculation. It fits comfortably within the broader PC MC paradigm by which millions of Westerners — “elites” and non-“elites” alike — continue to suppose that there is nothing abnormally problematic, alarming or dangerous about Islam and its millions of diverse enablers.
voegelinian says
For example, to pluck one example of probably thousands one could adduce, we see that polls of American people (a random mix of “elites” and ordinary people — not that our modern society is starkly stratified by that curiously conceived, rather anachronistic division indulged in so much by so many in the Counter-Jihad, evoking the image of a social complexion resembling a medieval Royalty vs. Peasantry) over a span from 2002 to 2013 show little significant change in appreciation for the problem of Islam:
“What is your impression of the religion called Islam? Is it very favorable, somewhat favorable, somewhat unfavorable, very unfavorable, or haven’t you heard enough about that to say?”
And, for a span of years from 2006 to 2013, we see only a marginal increase (where one rightfully expects — nay, demands, given all the atrocious shit Muslims have been saying and doing around the world these past years — a more radical advance along the learning curve):
“Generally speaking, do you think the Islamic religion encourages violence more than other religions around the world, about the same amount, or less than other religions around the world?”
For the depressing breakdown, see:
http://www.pollingreport.com/religion.htm
and scroll sadly down.
Wellington says
I’m not so sure about that, voegelinian. While many in the West still refuse to educate themselves about Islam (though, on a positive note, more and more in the West are doing so with each passing year), I don’t think most in the West would, a la the clueless Lord Scott, celebrate the fact that seven of their twelve granchildren are Muslim. Not by a mile.
C’mon. You’ve got to see some light at the end of the tunnel now and again. Yes, one has to be cautious about being too optimistic, but, conversely, one can’t be inordinately pessimistic either. Gotta’ get it just right, eh?
Besides, if I remember correctly, you yourself think that, long term, the West will be spared the horrors of Islamic domination, though not before much unnecessary weeping and gnashing of teeth.
Your turn.
Myxlplik says
When I tell any and all who listen how I feel about Islam, invariably I get accused of being racist against Muslims. My reply is, I believe in equality of all under the law, regardless of race, creed, or sex. I believe in freedom of thought and conscious in regards to expression and belief,. The more I learn about Islam the more this understanding I have, puts me at odds with Islam. If Islam is a race I suppose it makes me racist against Muslims, but as far as I know Islam is a faith not a race, which in a free society should not be above critical analysis.
I think you know these things in your heart, but you are too much of a coward to admitt it in public, for fear of being falsely accused of racism.
I’ve won many arguments with that :).
voegelinian says
Wellington:
I wasn’t talking about the future, but about the present —
It fits comfortably within the broader PC MC paradigm by which millions of Westerners — “elites” and non-”elites” alike — continue to suppose that there is nothing abnormally problematic, alarming or dangerous about Islam and its millions of diverse enablers.
— and about seeing no signs this dismal present is changing — after years of increasing metastasizing data about Muslims that should have caused change by now.
I also didn’t say the majority of people are exactly like Lord Scott; I said his glibly unhinged enthusiasm for Islam “fits comfortably within the the broader PC MC paradigm”. A Lord Scott or a Grover Norquist or (possibly) a George Clooney or an Yvonne Ridley — all these simply reflect the logical outer limit of the cultural speciation going on throughout the West, whereby the framework by which what is implicit and mainstream is the real problem, not these outlier mutants.
Champ says
Thank you, Wellington! Yes, I’m doing great …and you’re such a dear friend, and I hope all is well with you and yours, too.
You wrote:
“Well, sincerity without wisdom and knowledge, and especially when accompanied by power and influence, is destructive to the maximum often times. Lord Scott is a fine exhibit here. I submit that people like Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton are too.”
Great point, Wellington; and your mentioning obama and clinton reminds me of D’Souza’s new documentary “America” …it’s a must see!!
Take care 🙂
Tradewinds says
Daft, the English Lord is absolutely daft. Too much in-breeding in the aristocracy.
Boston Tea Party says
Notice how Lord Scott has, either consciously or subconsciously, already internalized an Islamic outlook. He doesn’t say “I have seven Muslim grandchildren, and five Christian ones.” I think it’s safe to assume that if they’re not Muslim they’re probably being raised in either a Christian or secular household, where like most in the West they will eventually have the freedom to choose what they believe in—so it wouldn’t really make sense to him to label his non-Muslim grandchildren at this point. Not so for his “Muslim” ones. He accepts that they are immediately born Muslims, they will be raised Muslim, and they will always be Muslim– and the idea that they might not be Muslim in the future is not even entertained.
thomas_h says
“British lord says Christians should marry Muslims to combat Islamophobia.”
He is related to another British Lord who says men should merry men to combat homophobia.
Winston says
Seems as if the good Lords street smarts has been lost in his cozy little world he was born into. Now, his heirs must deal with his lack of street smarts, his inability to articulate a reasonable message to them… Their inability to see through this religion of madness. Funny how someone with so much given to him at birth has so little to give to his country as he closes in on his twilight.
Champ ✞ says
Lord Scott is no doubt unaware that Muslim women are forbidden to marry non-Muslim men …
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Lord Scott is also unaware that Christians should NOT marry non-Christians:
Question: “Is it right for a Christian to date or marry a non-Christian?”
Answer: For a Christian, dating a non-Christian is unwise, and marrying one is not an option. Second Corinthians 6:14 (KJV) tells us not to be “unequally yoked” with an unbeliever. The imagery is of two incompatible oxen sharing the same yoke. Instead of working together to pull the load, they would be working against each other. While this passage does not specifically mention marriage, it definitely has implications for marriage. The passage goes on to say that there is no harmony between Christ and Belial (Satan). There can be no spiritual harmony in a marriage between a Christian and a non-Christian. Paul goes on to remind believers that they are the dwelling place of the Holy Spirit, who inhabits their hearts at salvation (2 Corinthians 6:15-17). Because of that, they are to be separate from the world—in the world, but not of the world—and nowhere is that more important than in life’s most intimate relationship—marriage.
More here:
http://www.gotquestions.org/date-marry-unbeliever.html
Note: Christians do not murder one another if another Christian brother or sister go against God’s will for marriage; whereas they do murder one another under the teachings of islam.
Mirren10 says
I’m curious, Champ.
What would be the Christian position if, once married, one of the parties ceases to believe in Christianity ? Divorce ? But isn’t that also forbidden ?
What if two atheists marry, and then one of them becomes a Christian ? What would be the position then ?
I hope you and yours are doing well, dear Champ.
Champ ✿ says
Hi, Mirren10 …
Those are great questions! And I think that “Got Questions” answers both of your queries best:
Question: “What are biblical grounds for divorce?”
Answer: When discussing what the Bible says about divorce, it is important to keep in mind the words of Malachi 2:16, “I hate divorce, says the Lord God.” Whatever grounds the Bible possibly gives for divorce, that does not mean God desires a divorce to occur in those instances. Rather than asking “is ______ a grounds for divorce,” often the question should be “is _______ grounds for forgiveness, restoration, and/or counseling?”
The Bible gives two clear grounds for divorce: (1) sexual immorality (Matthew 5:32; 19:9) and (2) abandonment by an unbeliever (1 Corinthians 7:15). Even in these two instances, though, divorce is not required or even encouraged. The most that can be said is that sexual immorality and abandonment are grounds (an allowance) for divorce. Confession, forgiveness, reconciliation, and restoration are always the first steps. Divorce should only be viewed as a last resort.
More here:
http://www.gotquestions.org/grounds-for-divorce.html
Take care, my dear friend! xo 🙂
Edward Cline says
“Of my two sons one has become a Muslim and of my two daughters one of those has become a Muslim, and I have 12 lovely grandchildren, seven of whom are little Muslims….” I guess he was the MP for Cuckoolandshire before he was elevated to the peerage. Probably sounds like Graham Chapman in one of his Monty Python roles. An upper class twit.
onisac says
“Lord Scott, a former Supreme Court Judge, cited his own family – in which two of his four children married Muslims – as an example of how interfaith families can thrive.”
I hope they raise some good little terrorists, to give their lives for Muhammad and Allah.
Some adults have no business getting married… They are not yet matured.
Jan Fourowls says
LOL!!!!!
Elliott says
GREAT AMUNDSEN!!!!!!!!!!!!! What will Lord Scott (and his brother Lord ‘elp-us) do when his grandchildren (the Muslims) decide that his other grandchildren (not muslim) tell their non-muslim cousins that its time to convert?
FPM, if you ever see a response from ‘is Lordship, please forward it to me (you have my e-mail address).
Regards and Shabbat Shalom
pumbar says
Another scumbag traitor to add to the list. The list is getting long and the lynchings are going to take an age once we fix things.
Jay Boo says
That semi-Islamic dress she is wearing is really ugly and looks gross on her.
That needy toad with his arm around her is worse.
The ideology rotting her soul is worst of all.
Dan Nowotarski says
Now I have a better understanding why the British elite have titles such as Lord. It’s because they know some of these leaders (Lord Scott being an example) are complete idiots and if they would just keep their mouths shut, having the Lord title alone would lead others to believe them wise.
Dt says
Two comments.
1. As a woman, the whole Muslim attitude about women doesn’t make me want to run out and join that religion. I don’t know, the stoning, beheading, burning to death and murder of women for some any reason, makes me run the other way.
2. Let’s see this nice fellow move his entire family to Iraq and say this to the Imam’s. Heck he doesn’t need to say anything…just take your lovely family and those beautiful children and grandchildren and move there and let us know how that works out for you.
In my mind, the problem is not the Muslims. The proof is his lovely family and I have Muslim friends. Yes, their religion teaches violence but most Muslim’s do not practice violence to anyone.
It is the extremist. They seek to kill anyone different than themselves…even their own family or neighbors. Who gets to say who is right? What is right today with one group may get your head cut off tomorrow by another.
The U.S. And every Country has has problems with thugs. It has always been the governments that have stepped in and stepped up to rid society of people like the Mafia and gangs. In most of the Middle East, the government is just as crazy. So the insanity grows like a cancer.
I think the best the civilized countries can do is to imagine and implement ways to turn the extremist against each other, like rival gangs or Mafia families and then hope they kill each other off.
Aion says
Based on how much the ‘nobility’ are hell bent on imposing idiotic lefty multiculturalism and Islamic fascism on us at the same time it pretty much shows their time is done. Time to get rid of these social leeches.
rdlake says
British men morphing onto hermaphrodites is almost complete. What a bunch of pansy ass twits.
Alice says
Too much inbreeding in that crowd of lords.
PJG says
So many commenters have decided it’s the Lord’s class (upper) which through inbreeding has made them stupid.
Inbreeding is not confined to the upper classes, for a start.
At university I was exposed to the class/race/gender trifecta, in which upper/white/male were the bad guys and the rest ipso facto innocent.
I’m disappointed to see that nonsense has trickled along to the counter-jihad fraternity.
The man is a fool, but let’s not jump to conclusions. PCMC thinking has spread like wildfire in our societies; one’s “class” position (or race or sex) makes one no more or less susceptible…I don’t think so, anyway (I have no proof!)
Angemon says
PJG posted:
“So many commenters have decided it’s the Lord’s class (upper) which through inbreeding has made them stupid.”
I think they were just being sarcastic…