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China: Islamic jihadists murder six farmers

Jul 14, 2014 9:59 am By Robert Spencer

ChinesesoldiersThis is reminiscent of Muhammad’s notorious jihad attack on the Jews at the Khaybar oasis in Arabia. As I explain in my book The Truth About Muhammad, when Muhammad raided Khaybar, the Jews were going out to tend their farms. One of the Muslims later remembered: “When the apostle raided a people he waited until the morning. If he heard a call to prayer he held back; if he did not hear it he attacked. We came to Khaybar by night, and the apostle passed the night there; and when morning came he did not hear the call to prayer, so he rode and we rode with him. We met the workers of Khaybar coming out in the morning with their spades and baskets. When they saw the apostle and the army they cried, ‘Muhammad with his force,’ and turned tail and fled. The apostle said, ‘Allah Akbar! Khaybar is destroyed. When we arrive in a people’s square it is a bad morning for those who have been warned..'”

“6 Farmers Killed in Attack in Xinjiang,” by Andrew Jacobs, New York Times, July 14, 2014:

In the latest outbreak of violence in the western Chinese region of Xinjiang, assailants have stabbed to death six ethnic Han farmers in a late-night spate of home invasions that appear to be part of a slow-burn effort to sow terror among migrants to the region, Radio Free Asia reported on Monday.

Like most recent incidents of ethnic bloodletting, news of the attack was quickly removed from the Internet in China. But Radio Free Asia, quoting local police officials, said that seven men were involved in the killings, which took place on Wednesday in Uchturpan, known in Chinese as Wushi, a rural county in Aksu Prefecture that has been the scene of deadly clashes between the police and ethnic Uighurs, a Turkic-speaking people who are predominantly Muslim.

In the latest attack, the police shot and killed one suspected attacker and captured three other suspects, Radio Free Asia reported. A warrant that circulated on the Internet suggested that three others were still at large. The report said one of the stabbing victims, a woman, had survived.

The attack comes amid a year-long “strike hard” campaign that Beijing is waging against what it calls Islamic-inspired terrorism in Xinjiang, and it follows a series of brutal, high-profile attacks across the country that have taken aim at ordinary Han, the dominant ethnic group in China, unnerving government leaders.

The final straw appears to have been a bombing in May at an outdoor produce market in Urumqi, the regional capital, that left 43 dead, including four attackers, and injured more than 90 others. In the days that followed, security officials promised to pacify the region through an iron-fisted campaign that President Xi Jinping vowed would involve “walls made of copper and steel” and “nets spread from the earth to the sky” to capture those involved in the violence, according to the state news agency Xinhua.

Since the crackdown started, state news media have reported the arrests of more than 400 people in Xinjiang, many of whom have already been sentenced. Last month, 13 people in three cities were executed after local courts convicted them of organizing and leading terrorist groups, according to Xinhua. On Friday, 32 others were handed lengthy prison sentences, three of them life terms, for having downloaded and circulated what the state media described as religious extremist video and audio files. Like most legal proceedings in China, the trials were closed to foreign journalists.

Exile groups and local residents say the continuing crackdown has heightened the fear and resentment that have been steadily poisoning ethnic relations in Xinjiang since rioting in 2009 claimed nearly 200 lives, most of them Han who were hacked to death by young Uighur men in the streets of Urumqi.

In recent months, there have been almost weekly reports of small-scale attacks across the region. Last week, investigators arrested four Uighur men who they say ambushed Kashgar’s antiterrorism commander in a rural area and stabbed him nearly 40 times before dumping his body into a reservoir. In late June, five Uighurs, two of them police officers, were fatally shot during a raid on a farmhouse in Kashgar Prefecture. In late April, three Han officials on a fishing trip in the same area were also murdered.

Experts say that disenchantment among Uighurs has grown alongside mounting economic disparity between Han and Uighur, and that the discontent is fueled by government restrictions on religious practices, including what news reports describe as aggressive efforts to dissuade students and government workers from fasting during the holy month of Ramadan….

The New York Times ought to be ashamed itself for continuing to push the oft-discredited claim that poverty causes terrorism. But the New York Times has no shame.

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  1. Angemon says

    Jul 14, 2014 at 10:20 am

    “Experts say that disenchantment among Uighurs has grown alongside mounting economic disparity between Han and Uighur”

    Ah, the always reliable “Argument From Authority” fallacy, combined with weasel words! Which experts say that and where? In any case, if there’s indeed an economical disparity between muslim Uyghurs and non-muslim Hans, it’s probably for the same reason there’s an economical disparity between Western nations and muslim countries: islam. As Churchill put it:

    “How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. “

    • Semeru says

      Jul 15, 2014 at 8:43 am

      well well we see that agroman is quote Churchills rant that was directed at a hapless train driver

      BTW where is the rest of the quote, how about posting it so as to refresh..

      So what was it that set off WSC into a hyper-tizzy? It seems that the Muslim engineer driving the troop or supply train on which young Winston was riding had not maintained it properly and it broke down well short of its destination. So all that ranting about how abominable Mohammedanism makes its “votaries”, how degraded they become in their thought, how primitive in their treatment of women, bluster bluster bluster—all that vile undigested prejudice because a native engineer with a rudimentary knowledge of mechanics (remember, we are in South Africa in the days of de facto apartheid) did not grease and oil his steam engine as a good British lad trained at a Birmingham or Manchester technical school would have. One poorly trained, or maybe just bored and inattentive, native mechanic exposes the baseness of hundreds of millions of people.

      Churchills rant was edited out of the 2nd edition of his The River War.

      Too many people put too much weight on Churchills supposed anti islam stance,

      Lets see what he had to say about Indians and Hindus

      He told Leopold Amery “I hate Indians. They are a beastly people with a beastly religion.”

      Churchill told his private secretary, Sir John Colville that: “the Hindus were a foul race…and he wished Bert Harris (Air Marshall Bert “Bomber” Harris could send some of his surplus bombers to destroy them.”

      Then lets not forget how Churchill Starved 4 Million Indians

      http://www.vijayvaani.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?aid=1396#LeaveCmtTitle

      Now so much for Churchills anti moslem rant,

      In 1942, both Jinnah and Gandhi were locked into their respective positions. Gandhi initially desired that the British leave India before they were to go any further with the creation of Pakistan. Churchill imprisoned Gandhi and the Congress Party as a result of them opposing the Raj and desiring that India should become a free state not under British Rule. This imprisonment meant that they were unable to express themselves politically. Jinnah collaborated with the British in order to aid them to win the Second World War, after which they were promised by the British to give them a homeland of their own, Pakistan.

      Churchill slung Ghandi into prison while at the same time he was

      Sir Martin Gilbert, the British biographer of Winston Churchill revealed that Churchill had asked Jinnah to dispatch secret letters to him by addressing them to a lady, Elizabeth Giliat, who had been Churchill’s secretary. This secret interaction continued for years. Jinnah’s key decisions between 1940 and 1946, including the demand for Pakistan in 1940, were taken after getting the nod from Churchill or Lord Linlithgow and Wavell, both Churchill’s admirers.

      • Angemon says

        Jul 15, 2014 at 9:07 am

        ASSemeru posted:

        “well well we see that agroman is quote Churchills rant that was directed at a hapless train driver

        BTW where is the rest of the quote, how about posting it so as to refresh.”

        And then the barely-literate lying bastard posts what he claims to be the rest of the quote. However, it’s not. It’s a commentary regarding the context of the quote. And it’s copy/pasted from here:

        http://message.snopes.com/showpost.php?p=1760787&postcount=9

        Notice that last part:

        “How dare he pontificate on civilisations that flourished when his ancestors quivered in mud huts at the sound of thunder.”

        So ASSemeru is quoting a random islam apologist in a message board and claiming that what “Joe Smith” wrote in his only post in that site comes directly from Churchill’s mouth. No, what Churchill wrote was about islam, and it came from first-hand experience. In fact, what Churchill wrote over 100 years ago remains true today.

        As for his rants about how Churchill hated Hindus and Indians, well, that changes nothing about truthful and trustful his view on islam is, does it? No, what ASSemeru is trying to do is to smear Churchill’s character as to deem him as unreliable. Guess what dumbass? If Gandhi tried his passive resistance with a muslim leader he wouldn’t have ended up in jail, he would have ended up dead.

        But since you’re bringing Gandhi up, how did things went for Hindus and Sikhs living in Pakistan after the partition who tried to follow his example of passive resistance?

        • Semeru says

          Jul 15, 2014 at 10:33 am

          Once again you accuse me of lying

          And then the barely-literate lying bastard posts what he claims to be the rest of the quote. However, it’s not. It’s a commentary regarding the context of the quote. And it’s copy/pasted from here:

          I never claimed the the commentary was the rest of Churchills quote

          I was asking you to give the rest of Churchills so as to refreh us of what Churchills rant was.

          The rant was set off by the incompetence of a moslem train driver, as Churchill writes in his book.

          agroman claims that Churchills rant was directed at islam and not set off because a train broke down, maybe agroman has read the book and is able to say in what context churchill wrote the quote.

        • Angemon says

          Jul 15, 2014 at 12:30 pm

          ASSemeru posted:

          “I never claimed the the commentary was the rest of Churchills quote”

          Actually, yes you did, you lying bastard:

          http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/07/china-islamic-jihadists-murder-six-farmers/comment-page-1#comment-1087842

          “BTW where is the rest of the quote, how about posting it so as to refresh..

          So what was it that set off WSC into a hyper-tizzy? It seems that the Muslim engineer driving the troop or supply train on which young Winston was riding had not maintained it properly and it broke down well short of its destination. So all that ranting about how abominable Mohammedanism makes its “votaries”, how degraded they become in their thought, how primitive in their treatment of women, bluster bluster bluster—all that vile undigested prejudice because a native engineer with a rudimentary knowledge of mechanics (remember, we are in South Africa in the days of de facto apartheid) did not grease and oil his steam engine as a good British lad trained at a Birmingham or Manchester technical school would have. One poorly trained, or maybe just bored and inattentive, native mechanic exposes the baseness of hundreds of millions of people.”

          You gave no warning about the source. You just go “hey, how about the rest of Churchill’s speech” and you post that piece of dawah. You even italicized it. No, you were trying to pass it as being the rest of Churchill’s speech

          “I was asking you to give the rest of Churchills so as to refreh us of what Churchills rant was.”

          Nope. A question would have a question mark in the end. But since you asked, here is the rest:

          “How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property – either as a child, a wife, or a concubine – must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen: all know how to die: but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome.”

          “The rant was set off by the incompetence of a moslem train driver, as Churchill writes in his book.

          agroman claims that Churchills rant was directed at islam and not set off because a train broke down, maybe agroman has read the book and is able to say in what context churchill wrote the quote.”

          Oh, wow, ASSemeru is trying to engage in a very blatant sleight of hand. There’s a difference between saying “Churchill’s speech was directed at islam” and saying “it was set off because a train broke down”. Those are two different things and are not mutually exclusive (btw, assemeru’s assertion about being “set off because of a train that broke down” still fails because it’s a god damn book, which means he had time to think and articulate what he meant to say, we’re not talking about a YT video of someone snapping at the drop of a hat).

          He’s also lying again. He says this: “agroman claims that Churchills rant was directed at islam and not set off because a train broke down“. Now, on my previous post do you see me making any reference to a train? Also, Churchill didn’t “wrote the quote” you moron. He wrote a book and i quoted from it.

          FIY, dumbass, i’ve not only read the book (something i doubt you ever did) but i also understand the context in which Churchill’s speech is (something i know you’re incapable of because it requires a certain degree of logic). How about YOU prove it was just directed at a train driver and not islam, dumbass? Churchill gives the example of a muslim engine/driver who blamed the breaking of the engine on allah claiming that allah was all wise, that there might be some hidden purpose to it and that they need not worry because another train would come and they’d all get home – eventually. Then a british officer came in and fixed the engine, probably because he knew more about running trains than allah.

          So dumbass, how about you prove what you claim – that the speech was specifically about a train driver (who is never mentioned through it btw) and not a consideration about all of islam, even though Churchill uses the term “Mohammedanism”?

        • Semeru says

          Jul 15, 2014 at 10:18 pm

          So agrononse says he has read the book. That is interesting as the book is rather rare, and must have cost a fortune, or he could have forked out £150 for the new two new volumes of The River wars with foreword by Lady Soames (Churchill’s only surviving child)

          Or it is more than likely he did not read either of the above but read the following on a blog

          What Churchill wrote in context

          The chapter is entitled “The Return of the British Division.” The fighting in Sudan has been successfully concluded, and the soldiers are riding a train on their way home.

          Only one incident occurred to diversify the journey and mar the perfection of the railway arrangements. It will be remembered that although the British officers on the railway never failed, the British engines sometimes did. The men were made of better stuff than the machines; they stood a greater strain. The incident occurred at ‘No. 6′ station; and since any event in the desert is rare, remarkable, and sometimes welcome, I will set it down.

          The engine, which had been working more jerkily every minute of the preceding hour, stopped with an ominous and alarming suddenness. Everyone got out. Something was wrong. The awful thought that we might perhaps have to wait some twenty hours or so at this attractive spot arose in many minds. Then the worst was known. The engine had broken down. It was in a thoroughly bad condition. Hard work had worn it out. I will not commit myself to technical language. It appeared that everything was loose. The native engine-driver was appalled and perfectly helpless. It would not work and go forward, he said; whereas before it had worked and gone forward. Undoubtedly, there was an accident. But who should say Allah had not some wise purpose? There would not be much delay. Another engine might come, perhaps tomorrow – this last hopefully. And we were all going home!

          How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law ever
          woman must belong to some man as his absolute property – either as a child, a wife, or a concubine – must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen: all know how to die; but the influence of the religion paralyzes the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytising faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity were sheltered in the strong arms of science – the science against which it had vainly struggled – the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome.

          To return to No. 6. The versatility of a British officer saved us a most unwelcome delay. Lieutenant Bathhurst5 proceeded to the locomotive, stimulated the driver’s energy, patched up the engine, and, getting into the cab himself, succeeded in ‘coaxing her’ along the odd two hundred miles that separated us from Wady Halfa…

          http://uncertaintist.wordpress.com/2013/06/18/what-churchill-wrote-about-islam/

          So what is it agrononse, did you read

          #1 The original old and rare edition

          #2 The new edition with forward by Mary Soames

          #3 The Uncertaintist blog

        • Angemon says

          Jul 16, 2014 at 6:34 am

          ASSemeru posted:

          “So agrononse says he has read the book. That is interesting as the book is rather rare, and must have cost a fortune, or he could have forked out £150 for the new two new volumes of The River wars with foreword by Lady Soames (Churchill’s only surviving child)

          Or it is more than likely he did not read either of the above but read the following on a blog”

          Oh, wow, dumbass here claims to know more about what i read or not than me. It’s a red herring, he made a false claim he can not substantiate – that Churchil’s speech was aimed at a train driver rather than to islam and he’s trying to dodge it by casting suspicion on me. So dumbass, still waiting for you to back your claim. Also, i never said i owned the book, i said i’ve read it, so the rarity or the prices it fetches nowadays are irrelevant. They’d still be irrelevant if i said I owned the book, but they’re even more irrelevant when i make no mention of owning it.

          “So what is it agrononse, did you read

          #1 The original old and rare edition

          #2 The new edition with forward by Mary Soames

          #3 The Uncertaintist blog”

          What we have here is a false dichotomy, a fallacy that involves a situation in which limited alternatives are considered when in fact there is at least one additional option. Dumbass, the book is public domain and available online for free:

          https://archive.org/details/1899RiverWarVol1
          https://archive.org/details/1899RiverWarVol2

          As far as I can remember I never heard of the uncertaintist blog until now. See, what’s going on here is that i exposed ASSemeru in the past as someone who scans posts for keywords and copy/pastes from websites in response to said keywords. And what happened in this topic just strengthens my assertion: not only he copy/pasted from a forum in response to a quote from Churchill, he also assumed I checked a blog even after i said I read the book. Since he already gave up on what he set himself to do, he’s dedicating his remaining time to personally attacking me. Even if I had not read the book and were just posting info from some random blog somewhere, that would change nothing: he tried to pass Churchill’s speech as being directed at a train driver rather than islam and he’s got nothing to support his wild claim. All that piss must be getting to his brain.

          So dumbass, still waiting for your evidence that what i quoted from Churchill was directed at a train driver instead of islam.

        • Semeru says

          Jul 16, 2014 at 9:32 am

          Agrononse
          So dumbass, still waiting for your evidence that what i quoted from Churchill was directed at a train driver instead of islam.

          You are one heck of a tedious prick,

          Churchill is telling of how he and the rest of soldiers are riding a train on their way home. when the train broke. The hapless driver was putting it down to allah, at this point in mid narrative Churchill give his mohammedan rant upon concluding his rant, Churchill resumes his narrative about the train journey.

          If Churchills rant was not sparked of and directed at the train, why did he put the rant directly after the train driver reaction to the train breakin down.

          Okay you tedious dick

          The proof you demand

          http://goo.gl/FEAkna

          http://goo.gl/077f8N

        • Angemon says

          Jul 16, 2014 at 6:27 pm

          ASSemeur posted:

          “If Churchills rant was not sparked of and directed at the train, why did he put the rant directly after the train driver reaction to the train breakin down.”

          Dumbass. That is a textbook example of the “post hoc ergo propter hoc” fallacy:

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post_hoc_ergo_propter_hoc

          “Post hoc is a particularly tempting error because temporal sequence appears to be integral to causality. The fallacy lies in coming to a conclusion based solely on the order of events, rather than taking into account other factors that might rule out the connection.

          The following is a simple example:

          The rooster crows immediately before sunrise, therefore the rooster causes the sun to rise.

          The form of the post hoc fallacy can be expressed as follows:

          A occurred, then B occurred.
          Therefore, A caused B.
          ”

          That’s exactly what ASSemeru is saying, that Churchill’s speech was directed at the train driver because it was placed right after the incident. Tell me one thing dumbass, why is it that a speech that you claim to be about a train driver makes no mention of trains or train drivers but talks about islam in general? And it’s spot-on: women are property of men, muslim countries are insecure hellholes, islam is a militant and proselytizing faith, etc.

          “The proof you demand

          http://goo.gl/FEAkna

          http://goo.gl/077f8N”

          Pffft. That’s supposed to prove what? That the text I quoted comes right after an incident on a train? Those links prove nothing and add no weight to your claim. The only thing being proved here is that you rushed out a knee-jerk response at a criticism of islam without even reading and/or comprehending what you were responding to and no amount of lying is going to make anyone believe your garbage, as usual.

          The irony here is that your pea-sized, camel piss-fed brain tried to accuse me of getting my info from a specific blog and now your moronically stupid ass is using that same blog as proof to back your claim. Tell me one thing buffoon: if you’re posting that blog as proof that what i quoted from Churchill was aimed at a train driver then why did you claim it was my alleged source when i said the exact opposite?

          Finally dumbass, where’s your proof that what i quoted from Churchill Churchill was aimed at a train driver? I see no mentions of trains in there, only an analysis of islam that remains true over 100 years later.

      • Himalayan Pony says

        Jul 15, 2014 at 10:07 am

        There is a comment about this at:
        http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/legacy/thereporters/soutikbiswas/2010/10/how_churchill_starved_india.html
        which I tend to agree with -though not with everything..
        ================================
        ” Those years were a terrible time for all of us and not just India. Britain was being constantly bombed and the British prime minister did exactly what he was supposed to do – safeguard the interest of his own country. He used the resources where he felt most appropriate. Yes, it is appalling and shocking and disgusting but that is the sad reality of war.

        and to the people who are comparing this what the Nazis did…ahem…Churchill didn’t do this because he felt that “Indians were worthless”, he did it because he felt the Greeks were more important. Of course, he couldn’t care less if you were Greek or Indian, it’s just that he was trying to do whatever he could to weaken the Nazis and grain being given to the people directly fighting the Nazis makes more sense (war-logic).

        I’m in no way suggesting that what he did was good. Just saying that as a wartime PM, his decision made logistical sense.

        And this was repeated all throughout the world. Japan did the same to the colonies it gave up, so did the U.S.S.R., so did France and just about every country you can name.

        I personally don’t really like Churchill but in this case, it is hard for me to seperate the truth from the emotional overtone that seems to be the selling point of this book…

        Moreover, there is no reason to blame the British. They are fantastic people and have made every attempt to look at us in a fair light – something we haven’t done. Yes, they took India over but that aspect of our history has both a good and a bad side to it and it always seems like we are ready to shove the good side away just in order to inspire nationalism (not aimed this article but just in general). Furthermore…I honestly believe that things would have been much worse if some other colonial power had taken us over. The Brits only went after the money and the trade and most of their policies were aimed at helping you keep your culture because they saw a monetary benefit in that – peaceful colonials would benefit the Empire. This approach, though inherently selfish, was much better than the approach of the Belgians or the Germans.”
        ===================

        • Semeru says

          Jul 17, 2014 at 12:21 am

          Himalayan Pony

          I believe in zero tolerance towards racism, so I cannot redeem Churchill or british presence in India. And India very heavy price to feed safeguard the inbred and corrupt english aristocracy. The english aristocracy that has a long history of appeasing islam.

          Despite Churchills rant about mohamedan he had no problems with selling out to them.

          I am amazed at the Indians on how easy they are in forgiving and forgetting thet are towards their oppressors be it Churchill or Akbar.

        • Himalayan Pony says

          Jul 17, 2014 at 11:53 am

          Semeru – I wouldn’t want to be like you – unforgiving and bitter, not good for the soul (anyway I am a born-again Christian who follows the Lord Jesus who teaches to forgive.) It is a lot of nonsense what you say about Churchill – twisting facts etc. You would never understand some things like this.

      • gravenimage says

        Jul 15, 2014 at 10:17 pm

        Semeru, I don’t believe you can actually refute the *content* of Churchill’s quote.

        • Semeru says

          Jul 16, 2014 at 3:46 am

          Thats right, I can not refute Churchills quote, and I am not attempting to.

          Just to remind you that Churchill was a British imperialist, which of course required a racist ideology to justify the domination of nonwhites by whites.

          Churchill was a racist, and would no doubt be banned from this forum, due to

          #1 his 1955 Keep Britain White campaign.

          #2 I do not agree that the dog in a manger has the final right to the manger even though he may have lain there for a very long time. I do not admit that right. I do not admit for instance, that a great wrong has been done to the Red Indians of America or the black people of Australia. I do not admit that a wrong has been done to these people by the fact that a stronger race, a higher-grade race has come in and taken their place.

          #3 I)Churchill, speaking of the Indian people, said that he had a difficult time dealing with “the humiliation of being kicked out of India by the beastliest people in the world next to the Germans.”

          ii)It is alarming and also nauseating to see Mr. Gandhi, a seditious Middle Temple lawyer of the type well-known in the East, now posing as a fakir, striding half naked up the steps of the Viceregal palace to parley on equal terms with the representative of the King-Emperor.

          iii)I hate Indians. They are a beastly people with a beastly religion.

          iv) In response to the 1943, Bengal famine cause by Churchill and British mismanagement. To the horror of many of his colleagues, Churchill raged that it was their own fault for “breeding like rabbits” and refused to offer any aid for months while 4 million died.

          v) In the Swat valley, now part of Pakistan, he experienced, fleetingly, a crack of doubt. He realised that the local population was fighting back because of “the presence of British troops in lands the local people considered their own,” just as Britain would if she were invaded. But Churchill soon suppressed this thought, deciding instead they were merely deranged jihadists whose violence was explained by a “strong aboriginal propensity to kill”

          So to put Churchills quote into context we should look at the other remarks he made about the Sudanese, then his quote is more racial than a critic about islam

          #4 i)The huge area contains many differences of climate and conditions, and these have produced peculiar and diverse breeds of men. The Soudanese [sic] are of many tribes, but two main races can be clearly distinguished: the aboriginal natives, and the Arab settlers. The indigenous inhabitants of the country were negroes as black as coal. Strong, virile, and simple-minded savages, they lived as we may imagine prehistoric men – hunting, fighting, marrying, and dying, with no ideas beyond the gratification of their physical desires, and no fears save those engendered by ghosts, witchcraft, the worship of ancestors, and other forms of superstition common among peoples of low development. They displayed the virtues of barbarism. They were brave and honest. The smallness of their intelligence excused the degradation of their habits. Their ignorance secured their innocence. Yet their eulogy must be short, for though their customs, language, and appearance vary…the history of all is a confused legend of strife and misery, their natures are uniformly cruel and thriftless, and their condition is one of equal squalor and want.

          ii) The qualities of mongrels are rarely admirable, and the mixture of the Arab and negro types has produced a debased and cruel breed, more shocking because they are more intelligent than the primitive savages.

          If Churchills quote was not racial, but a warning, then he did not pay much attention

          i) His appeasement of the Indian Moslem League, and encouraging Mohammed Jinnah, which led to the partition of India and the creation of the two Pakistans

          ii) His support of the moslem Malays in the Malasian insurgency.

          iii) His total disregard to the Chaldian and Assyrian christians he chopped up Mesopotainia Mesopotamia and that Feisal should become king of a newly created Kingdom of Iraq. This led to massacres and betrayal and near extintion of Chaldians an Assyrians

          Then, look at why Obama did not want a bust of Churchill in the White house

          Churchill was in his second stint as P.M. when the British governnment began its brutal campaign to suppress the alleged “Mau Mau” uprising in Kenya, in order to protect the privileges of the white settler population at the expense of the Kikuyu and other indigenous people. About 11,00 Kenyans were killed and 81,000 detained during the government’s campaign to protect its imperialist (fascist) heritage.

          And spoken like a true Nazi

          #1 The unnatural and increasingly rapid growth of the feeble-minded and insane classes, coupled as it is with a steady restriction among all the thrifty, energetic and superior stocks, constitutes a national and race danger which it is impossible to exaggerate… I feel that the source from which the stream of madness is fed should be cut off and sealed up before another year has passed.

          #2 When concentration camps were built in South Africa, for white
          Boers, he said they produced “the minimum of suffering”. The death tollwas almost 28,000, and when at least 115,000 black Africans were
          likewise swept into British camps, where 14,000 died, he wrote only of
          his “irritation that Kaffirs should be allowed to fire on white men”

        • Angemon says

          Jul 16, 2014 at 6:35 am

          ASSemeru posted:

          “Thats right, I can not refute Churchills quote, and I am not attempting to.

          Just to remind you that Churchill was a British imperialist, which of course required a racist ideology to justify the domination of nonwhites by whites.

          Churchill was a racist,”

          Pffft. Called it. Here’s what i wrote after he tried to claim that Churchill’s quote was aimed at a train driver rather than to islam (that sounds a lot like trying to refute it, but let’s overlook that for now):

          “As for his rants about how Churchill hated Hindus and Indians, well, that changes nothing about truthful and trustful his view on islam is, does it? No, what ASSemeru is trying to do is to smear Churchill’s character as to deem him as unreliable.“

        • Himalayan Pony says

          Jul 16, 2014 at 5:16 am

          @Semeru, [I don’t know if this reply will appear below Semeru’s post!]

          so what if Churchill was a racist? Everyone in this earth is / has been a racist at one time or other. What is your point with all your long posts?!! So Churchill hated Indians. So what? As an Indian, I don’t really care. Even here in India there is racism. Racism is everywhere. Don’t go blaming Churchill for the partition, you don’t even know what you are talking about. The Indian Muslims wanted the partition. That is part of history. The point is that he has made some good remarks about Islam which no one can deny. He has also predicted some things about India 70 years back, and his words have been correct.

      • Semeru says

        Jul 17, 2014 at 12:01 am

        agrononse

        I have answerd your question, whether you like it or not.

        By the way you keep harping about camel urine, it is very clear you do not know about piss

        So if you do not know about a simple thing as piss, so how can you know about a complex thing like islam

        • Angemon says

          Jul 17, 2014 at 5:13 am

          ASSemeru posted:

          “I have answerd your question, whether you like it or not.”

          And like i explained, your answer was stupid, like your reasoning behind it:

          “That is a textbook example of the “post hoc ergo propter hoc” fallacy:

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post_hoc_ergo_propter_hoc

          “Post hoc is a particularly tempting error because temporal sequence appears to be integral to causality. The fallacy lies in coming to a conclusion based solely on the order of events, rather than taking into account other factors that might rule out the connection.

          The following is a simple example:

          The rooster crows immediately before sunrise, therefore the rooster causes the sun to rise.

          The form of the post hoc fallacy can be expressed as follows:

          A occurred, then B occurred.
          Therefore, A caused B.”
          ”

          “By the way you keep harping about camel urine, it is very clear you do not know about piss

          So if you do not know about a simple thing as piss, so how can you know about a complex thing like islam”

          I mention camel urine because you’re tried to defend the practice of drinking it before. I know that piss is one of the ways the body gets rid of unneeded or toxic byproducts. I know that drinking camel piss is an islamic tradition because a highway-robber and child-rapist who believed to be possessed by demons told someone to do so. Those are facts. So how about you prove us that you know about islam because you know about piss? That is, right after you provide evidence for your claim that what i quoted from Churchill was directed at a train driver.

  2. Jay Boo says

    Jul 14, 2014 at 11:45 am

    Muhammad teaches that Muslims must always wash their bloodied hands before saying there prayers by reciting these words:
    “Insha’Allah”

  3. duh_swami says

    Jul 14, 2014 at 1:29 pm

    All they need is jobs and a little walking around money, and jihad would just fade out.

    • gravenimage says

      Jul 15, 2014 at 10:55 pm

      Grimly hilarious, Swami.

  4. Reality Check says

    Jul 14, 2014 at 1:58 pm

    Hopefully, the Chinese will strike back and deal with the Muslim scumbags in an appropriate way. It should be easier as they don’t have “white guilt”.

    • umbra says

      Jul 14, 2014 at 3:56 pm

      Chinese authority has struck back ruthlessly and will continue to do so until all terrorists are eliminated or incarcerated.

      Before the ROP came to being, Chinese have been killing each other for centuries, with whole scale slaughters at times (most recently the Chinese civil war in the early 20th century). From the Chinese perspective, there is very little guilt in taking violent actions if their security is threatened. The public opinion in China is that the population overwhelmingly support the government’s efforts to pacify these terrorists, despite what progressive western media might imply, directly or indirectly.

      • Mazo says

        Jul 14, 2014 at 4:47 pm

        European people have been killing each other for centuries, since the barbarian invasions of the Roman Empire, to the Viking Raids in the dark ages, the hundred years war, to the Protestant-Catholic wars and 30 years war, to the Napoleonic Wars, World War 1, and World War 2 where tens of millions of Europeans died and the Soviet Union suffered a higher civilian and military death toll than even China did.

        • Mac-101 says

          Jul 14, 2014 at 4:57 pm

          The Protestant/Catholic wars back 400 some years ago probably would not even come close to the “Great Cultural Revolution” of Chairman Mao which murdered between 60 to 100 MILLION of their own defenseless people. And these people and party ARE still in power in Red China and we have surrendered our security to them for dirty KAPITALIST/BANKSTERS can git rich while America is dismantled!
          .
          And Chairman Mao has his own “Holiday Ornament ” on the National “Holiday Tree”. DISGUSTIN!

        • umbra says

          Jul 15, 2014 at 12:22 am

          To cut the story short, Chinese civil wars were between Chinese. European wars were between European states, mostly. European civil wars caused less casualties than wars between European states. It would be logical if one were to compare European war casualties with Asian war casualties, in which case one would have to include those conflicts in the sub-continent, Central Asia and Southeast Asia.

          In any case, the point is, Chinese authorities (and populace) do not have a guilt complex (at least not to the extent that exist in many/most western countries) associated with taking oppressive lethal action against terrorists or “violent/independence protesters” (as depicted in the progressive media). A culture that existed for thousands of years cannot persists for such a duration without having the capacity to adapt to a brutal and violent world. Chinese culture and mentality may appear soft, but it can be brutal and ruthless when necessary. This aspect of the Chinese culture and mentality is not going to change.

        • bernie says

          Jul 15, 2014 at 2:00 am

          Mazo: your point is well-taken. However, it’s equally true that Arab and Indian Mughals on the Indian subcontinent killed tens of millions of Hindus over several centuries, mainly because most of those Hindus were polytheists and didn’t want to be forced to convert to Islam.

        • Mazo says

          Jul 15, 2014 at 5:24 am

          @Mac-101 are you retarded enough to know the difference between “murder” and “famine”? Oh and dumbass, the famine was in the Great Leap Foward, not the Cultural Revolution.

          The total number of people ordered killed by Mao is millions less than the Ukrainian Kulaks liquidated by Stalin.

          The deth toll from the famine in the Great Leap Foward is high because China has more people than any other country on earth, so China would naturally suffer a higher death toll in a famine than countries with populations of hundreds of millions less people.

          I’m not a fan of Mao or anti-religious policies or iconoclasm but you are a retard.

        • Mazo says

          Jul 15, 2014 at 1:29 pm

          Hitler and Stalin each killed millions more Europeans than the total death toll of the Cultural Revolution. They caused the death of tens of millions.

          Mao ordered around 2 million landlords and “counterrevolutionaries” to be killed in his initial reforms and the later Cultural Revolution’s death toll definitely did not exceed that. 60-100 million is the death toll for famine in the Great Leap Foward and not people ordered killed by Mao.

        • Mac-101 says

          Jul 15, 2014 at 2:51 pm

          Mazo, who’s apologizing for Stalin or Hitler? Evil is evil whether performed by Caucasians or Orientals.
          Socialist always morph into Communist and kill MILLIONs every time they git the power to do so.
          Democracy only works for a MORAL and upright people.
          The leader of Western Powers has for some reason transferred our wealth and power to COMMUNIST CHINA. It will not end well for either side because no one is smarter than the BANKSTERS except perhaps da Chinese. Undoubtedly both sides have this game played out numerous moves in advance. And we da pawns will die in mass!
          Git right with G-d NOW!

        • gravenimage says

          Jul 15, 2014 at 11:07 pm

          Mazo would have you believe that the hideous death toll—the worst in history from any single cause—during the Orwellian-named “Great Leap Forward” was just a famine—but he does not tell you that it was entirely *man made*.

          And the savagery of the “Cultural Revolution” was similar to the targeting of the Kulaks in the Soviet Union, and for the same reasons—so that totalitarian Communist states could liquidate the intelligentsia and the entrepreneurial class.

          Now, this savagery has nothing specific to do with the threat of Jihad, but it shows again—as though more proof were needed—that Mazo is both disingenuous and an apologist for barbarism.

        • Mazo says

          Jul 16, 2014 at 1:58 pm

          Cravenmirage, “man made” does not mean deliberately killed. By that logic I can say Britain is deliberately responsible for all famines and wars in China after the Opium Wars because their reparations drained revenue from China used to repair dikes, dams, canals, and caused massive famines and rebellions. Or westerners are responsible for Taiping Rebellion because Hong Xiuquan learned about Christianity from missionaries.

          The genuine aim of the great leap foward was to increase agricultural production. I didn’t say that the planners weren’t stupid or their ideas were retarded (btw the retarded idea of communalism originated in the “civilized” west and spread to China from there).

          The cultural revolution is seen as negative in China today and criticized by the Communist party since 1981.

          The savage behavior of your fellow “counter jihadist” filipinos who like eating human brains, livers, hearts, butchering civilians and mutilating bodies, is no doubt the result of 300 years of “civilized” Spanish colonialism.

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilaga#References

  5. Mazo says

    Jul 14, 2014 at 2:16 pm

    Still at it with the BS that your media is rooting for Islam? Your western media like this so called “New York Times” works for the agenda of your imperialist oaf in office, Barack Obama, and not for Islam.

    Your oaf Barack Obama has enacted a “Pivot to Asia” as part of his foreign policy since 2010, which focuses on withdrawing from the middle east, and going to asia and confronting China, supporting China’s enemies and generally doing anything to try and hurt China because America fears China’s power.

    This is why when Moro Muslims pull off spectacular attacks against the Philippine military, and sometimes slaughter up to dozens of armed Philippine troops in Mindanao at a time, or even managed to kill American troops who are currently aiding the Philippine military in Mindanao (as part of Operation Enduring Freedom), your so called “media” like New York Times, CNN, or MSNBC generally don’t care to report on the humiliations inflicted on the Philippine armed forces.

    There are near weekly fights and clashes in Mindanao and Sulu between Moros and Filipinos, and none of this appears in New York Times, CNN, MSNBC, or Radio Free Asia. Radio Free Asia doesn’t give out Tausug or Maguindanaon language broadcasts.

    Meanwhile, if Uyghur terrorists stab civilians to death in China, your media will run endless articles about their brave struggle against evil Chinks and their oppresion.

    And Islam has nothing to do with Uyghur’s impoverishment, its Uyghurs themselves. Hui and Salar Muslims in China run businesses and are succesful merchants and no terrorist attacks have been committed by any Hui, Salar, Dongxiang, or Bonan.

    The CCP does crackdowns and restrictions as a response to dissent and challenges to its rule, not because it just feels like doing it for no reason.

    When there were protests against an anti-Islamic cartoon in China, the police let Hui protestors in Chengdu, Ningxia, and other areas to protest freely and ban the cartoon, but when Hui in Qinghai tried to protest, the police beat them back with batons and made them sit out on the entire event. Ningxia Hui autonomous region has tons of Mosques and Madrassas operating freely under their sect leaders, but in Qinghai, religious teaching is restricted.

    The reason is because Ningxia under Hui General Ma Hongbin was the first region to capitulate without a fight to the final Communist advance in the northwest, while Qinghai was the stronghold of the warlord Ma Bufang and Xining in Qinghai was one of the centers of the 1895 rebellion (crushed by loyalist Hui from Gansu). The sects which were involved in those events and the cult of personality cultivated by Ma Bufang among the locals make Qinghai the target of more restrictions and use of police force than Ningxia.

    Uyghurs in Kashgar and certain other counties prone to rioting got “pressured” by restrictions after they started rioting and protesting, while Uyghurs in loyal areas like Turfan and Hami do not get restrictions enforced on them. The official restriction on religious teaching is ignored and not enforced by Communist party officials in those areas. Turfan and Hami are the two most pro-China Uyghur areas while Kashgar, Khotan, Aksu, and Ili are prone to rioters and terrorists.

    In the Ili Rebellion in 1944-46, Soviet backed Uyghur secular Communist nationalist terrorists, including Rebiya Kadeer’s father, slaughtered thousands of civilians in Ili, and set up the Soviet puppet Second East Turkestan Republic. Uyghur nationalism is the cause of terrorism.

    • Jovial Joe says

      Jul 14, 2014 at 3:08 pm

      It’s quite right that Muslims should be pacified and practice their religion, if they really feel they must, in as quiet and unobtrusive manner as possible. Equally it’s quite right that what you call a ‘nationalist’ struggle from Muslims (really a supremacist struggle and inability to accept parity of status with all other peoples) is immediately crushed with extreme prejudice.

    • gravenimage says

      Jul 14, 2014 at 7:19 pm

      Mazo wrote, among reams of other obfuscating crap:

      This is why when Moro Muslims pull off spectacular attacks against the Philippine military…
      ……………………………….

      What rot. The idea that Mohammedans are waging violent Jihad against the Philippines because they are somehow being encouraged by Americans with some sort of obscure policy in Asia is absurd.

      Muslims are waging violent Jihad in the southern Philippines for the same reason they are waging violent Jihad in southern Thailand, and in Burma, and in Russia, and, as here, in western China—because islam has bloody borders, and intends to make violent inroads into Dar-al-Harb wherever they can.

      • Mazo says

        Jul 15, 2014 at 5:11 am

        Either cravenmirage is

        1. Hoping others cannot read

        2. Is deliberately trolling and purposefully confusing what I said to get a reaction

        3. Is suffering from some sort of dyslexia

        4. Is just stupid.

        I very clearly said America SUPPORTS the Philippines against Moro Muslims.

        I said America’s pivot is directed against China, which your ugly President has been boasting about for the past four years.

        Your American government is a propagandist for all sorts of terror against China, your President Obama supports anyone who is anti China, including the Philippines (in the south China sea), and Uyghur terrorists (World Uyghur Congress is funded by America, and American propaganda station Radio Free Asia regularly broadcasts pro Uyghur terrorist propaganda. Your filthy western media and government defends the Philippine and Indonesian war crimes because they are allies of America, while it attacks China in any way it can.

        http://www.foreignpolicyi.org/content/obama-administrations-pivot-asia

        http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=East_Asian_foreign_policy_of_the_Barack_Obama_administration#The_.27Pivot.27

        • Himalayan Pony says

          Jul 15, 2014 at 5:52 am

          Anyway no one can forget the beginnings: how it all started! 🙁
          http://www.historyofjihad.org/china.html

          Can’t you ever write without insulting, Mazo??

        • Mazo says

          Jul 15, 2014 at 1:44 pm

          You know the account of the Battle of Talas on that website is entirely fabricated? Kao Hsien-chih (Gao Xianzhi) survived the battle and fled back to China, and was not beheaded by Arabs. China did not loose its western regions due to the battle, because the entire battle took place outside of Chinese controlled territory.

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gao_Xianzhi

          China abandoned Xinjiang (Tarim Basin) because of the later An Lushan rebellion, not because of Talas. China even hired 4,000 Arab mercenaries to put down the rebellion.

          The entire alleged account of the Chinese prisoner of war is blatant fabrication, because the only real surviving account of a Chinese prisoner from that battle was written by Du Huan, and he mentions nothing about being kept as cattle or being sold for a dirham. In fact what he writes about mostly are his travels around the Abbasid Caliphate before returning to China by sea, after being released.

          http://cy.revues.org/33

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Du_Huan

          The “historyofjihad” website is full of bullsh–.

        • Mazo says

          Jul 15, 2014 at 2:20 pm

          There are sources and footnotes in the wikipedia article, dumbass, like the one specifically next to Gao Xianzhi’s death date, which is five years AFTER the Battle of Talas. It provides a direct link to the original website. See the citation number?

          兩千年中西曆轉換

          http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gao_Xianzhi#cite_ref-1

          All wikipedia articles I linked to here have sources- some of them are direct links to websites that people can check for themselves in the reference section.

          There were 30 references and links on this article I linked to before Philipjihadski started bitching about it being wikipedia.

          http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separatist_movements_of_India

          Also a scholarly source for the dumbass, for Gao Xianzhi’s death date,

          http://books.google.com/books?id=qTm6Yka5GigC&pg=PA88&dq=gao+xianzhi+756&hl=en&sa=X&ei=QG7FU8zvC8PfsATy44GYBQ&ved=0CB4Q6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=gao%20xianzhi%20756&f=false

          I provided both a source wikipedia article and this website http://cy.revues.org/33 for Du Huan already.

          The last time I recommended and provided scholarly sources, PhilipJihadski came out of nowhere and started his menopausal bitching again.

          Remember, dumbass? I provided sources written by historians and published by universities.

          http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/04/california-pol-who-tried-to-broker-arms-deal-for-jihad-group-escapes-terrorism-charges/comment-page-1#comment-1033720

          This is Philipjihadski’s response, after he injected himself with estrogen.

          http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/04/california-pol-who-tried-to-broker-arms-deal-for-jihad-group-escapes-terrorism-charges/comment-page-1#comment-1033662

          When I recommended scholarly sources and even provided them for people to look at, ABOUT THE TOPIC OF THE ARTICLE Voldemort’s army responded by spamming shit about Raymond Ibrahim and Taqiyya.

          http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/02/philippines-frees-jihad-leader-to-make-peace-with-milf/comment-page-1#comment-1016083

        • Himalayan Pony says

          Jul 16, 2014 at 3:30 am

          No matter what you say Mazo, isn’t it a fact that jihad spread worldwide from country to country till it reached China and people were forced to become Muslims?? Or do you deny that too? If you do that, you are still blind. I don’t care what the wikipedia says, all that I am seeing is a lot of people forcibly converted to a religion that they didn’t want in the first place. But during the course of time, they themselves have become the aggressors – their forefathers were obviously victims. And that is the sad thing. You may say what you want to contradict this. 😉

        • Mazo says

          Jul 16, 2014 at 2:22 pm

          The Battle of Talas was not over religion or spreading Islam. The Abbasids did not even gain territory as a result of the battle. It was over who would control a small proxy client state in central asia.

          Ask Kepha to verify this text- it is one of the sources used in the wikipedia article on Gao Xianzhi- he was not beheaded by Arabs at Talas, but by Bian Lingcheng five years after Talas.

          http://zh.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=資治通鑑%2F卷217

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gao_Xianzhi#Death

          During Talas, only a small section of the Karluks were converted. The majority of Karluk Turks did not convert to Islam until the mid 10th century under Sultan Satuq Bughra Khan, and that was 200 years after Talas. And they did so voluntarily.

          Hui, Salar, Dongxiang, Bonan, Kazakhs, and Kyrgyz were not forcefully converted or the result of any sort of Jihad, whether in China or outside of China. Kazakhs and Kyrgyz were voluntarily converted by the Sufi master Khoja Akhmet Yassawi, Salars are Oghuz Turks from Samarkand and they were voluntarily converted there.

          The only forced conversions that may have happened were when the Turkic Karluk Kara-Khanids in Kashgar declared Jihad against the Iranic speaking Khotanese and Tocharians and Turkified the Tarim Basin, (Uyghurs in the Tarim Basin are descended from Karluks and Tocharians, after their Turkic speaking Karluk ancestors conquered the indo-european Tocharians and fully assimilated them into their ethnic group).

          Mahmud Kashgari wrote a poem about shitting on the Buddha’s head in celebration of the Turkic Karluks conquering the Iranic, Buddhist Khotanese.

          Like how Spanish Catholics conquered the Aztecs and Incas, forced them to convert them to Catholicism, and then took their women as wives, producing a race of Spanish speaking mestizo hispanic Catholics. This is how Uyghurs came about, after Turkic Kara Khanid Karluks conquered the Indo-European Tocharians and Khotanese, and did whatever Spain did to natives.

          This is typical conquest behavior by western colonialists.

    • eib says

      Jul 15, 2014 at 9:04 am

      I don’t find nationalism ugly at all.
      An the elevation of diversity into an artificial unity is far uglier in my view.
      Getting uglier all the time.

      • Mazo says

        Jul 15, 2014 at 1:25 pm

        Uyghur nationalism is an artificial creation of Soviet Communists.

        Before the 20th century, the current ethnic group known as Uyghur did not exist. Sedentary Turkic speaking Muslims in Xinjiang were just called “Turki”, or by the Oasis they came from, if they were from Yarkand, they were called Yarkandi, if from Kashgar, they were called Kashgari.

        The Soviet Union at a conference in 1921 at Tashkent stole the name Uyghur from a medieval Empire and applied it to the modern people in Xnjiang for no reason other than to give them a proper name for their ethnic group. Soviet historians like Tursun Rakhimov and D.I. Tikhonov then created fictional accounts of Uyghur history to justify their presence in Xinjiang and to attack China by using Uyghurs as Soviet proxies.

        The Soviet Communists supported Uyghur separatists in the Second East Turkestan Republic and backed Uyghur insurgents, promoting their fictionalized accounts of Uyghur history.

        If you think artificial nationalism created by Soviet communists is not ugly then go with whatever floats your boat.

  6. AnneCrockett says

    Jul 14, 2014 at 2:50 pm

    Yes – people like the New York Times seem utterly oblivious to imitative behavior among humans. Even though their newspaper chronicles fads and fashions every day, they do not realize that jihadis inspire more jihadis.

  7. idorun says

    Jul 15, 2014 at 8:19 pm

    If there really was a so called GOD Catholic or Muslim . there would be no killing of humans any where It is the belief of a superior being by certain groups and nations of this world that there is a GOD or a representative of this human on earth. If so would he not want Man kind to enjoy life and live in a peaceful existence with every other human and creatures that live . Has not religion caused most of the hatred and wars in this world. Man kills to make peace when peace is not enough , he will kill again . When you find GOD what ever or where ever this Being is please tell the other people of this world too stop killing each other . Because this GOD is suppose to be the creator of man and all human life on this planet .
    last be least we did evolve from the swamps of this world . not made from an imaginary thing that no one has ever see . just maybe what they saw back before man kelp time was a real to life ALIEN .

  8. idorun says

    Jul 15, 2014 at 8:21 pm

    lets see now where was I before i came too this planet

    • Kepha says

      Jul 16, 2014 at 6:17 am

      One of the moons of Jupiter, perhaps?

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