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China: Knife-wielding Muslims attack police station, government offices, dozens dead or injured

Jul 29, 2014 1:01 pm By Robert Spencer

ChinasoldiersThe jihad in China continues to escalate, with the universal response from the mainstream media being skepticism over the Chinese government’s claims that it faces a jihad terror threat at all, and claims of its own that the Muslim Uighurs are poor and oppressed — as if that explains and justifies jihad terror. In other words, the same myopia that prevails regarding jihad in the West is in play regarding China as well.

“China Xinjiang: Attack ‘kills or injures dozens,'” BBC, July 29, 2014:

Dozens of people have been killed or injured in an attack in China’s Xinjiang region, state media say.

Xinhua news agency said a knife-wielding gang had attacked a police station and government offices in Shache county early on Monday.

Local Uighurs as well as Han Chinese were among the casualties. Police shot dead many attackers, Xinhua said.

Confirming details of incidents in Xinjiang is difficult, because the flow of information is tightly controlled.

Xinhua said that more than 30 police cars had been damaged or destroyed in the “terror attack”, six of them burnt out.

Quoting local police, it said “dozens of Uighur and Han civilians were killed or injured”.

According to Xinhua, the gang began their attack in the township of Elixku before moving to another nearby settlement, attacking civilians and vehicles on the way.

“Police officers at the scene shot dead dozens of members of the mob,” the report added.

Earlier a Chinese official told the BBC that 13 people had been killed in the outbreak of violence, the latest to hit the troubled region.

The regional official said the incident took place in Yarkant, a town near the city of Kashgar and the border with Tajikistan.

The area is seen as the heartland of the region’s Muslim Uighur ethnic minority.

It is not clear why official media took so long to report the violence.

In 2009, large-scale ethnic rioting between Han Chinese and Uighur communities in Xinjiang’s capital, Urumqi, left some 200 people – mostly Han Chinese – dead.

In recent months there has been an upsurge in Xinjiang-linked violence that authorities have attributed to Uighur separatists.

In May at least 31 people were killed when two cars crashed through an Urumqi market and explosives were thrown. In March, a mass stabbing at Kunming railway station killed 29 people.

In response Chinese authorities have launched a year-long security campaign which includes increased police and troop presence in key cities and towns in Xinjiang.

Uighur rights groups say there is considerable resentment against Chinese rule in Xinjiang, in particular restrictions on religious and cultural freedoms.

China says it is investing heavily in the region to improve people’s lives.

Oh, that’s good, because as everyone knows, poverty causes terrorism.

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  1. Peter Buckley says

    Jul 29, 2014 at 1:14 pm

    While the uighurs , in their fruitless striving for Sharia Law, cause the Chinese no end of problems, Christianity has been silently growing at an incredible rate amongst the general public:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/10776023/China-on-course-to-become-worlds-most-Christian-nation-within-15-years.html

    • Mazo says

      Jul 29, 2014 at 1:34 pm

      You have no idea about the difference between Asians and the West. Most people in China are not like your average redneck or hillbilly. The farmers actually believe in cults and superstitious trash.

      Have you heard of Hong Xiuquan and the Taiping Rebellion? He was a rural Hakka who came up with a heretical cult based off Protestant Christianity he was taught by a foreign missionary. He started a rebellion where 20 million people died.

      Now there are cults like “Eastern Lightning”, another heretic sect based off Protestant Christianity. They go around murdering people, and they believe Jesus was reincarnated into some woman.

      http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/06/world/asia/china-eastern-lightning-killing/

      Mao was from a farming background.

      • Angemon says

        Jul 29, 2014 at 1:38 pm

        Q: How does any of that relates to the latest act of islamic jihad reported in China?

        A: It doesn’t, it’s just another futile exercise in obfuscation.

        • Mazo says

          Jul 29, 2014 at 2:02 pm

          How does Peter Buckley’s post relate to this “jihad”?

        • Angemon says

          Jul 29, 2014 at 2:07 pm

          Your post is also completely unrelated to Peter’s post too.

      • islamisdeath says

        Jul 29, 2014 at 2:56 pm

        OK you hate Christians and are a muslim troll. But to clarify about Chinese Christianity I know many Christian Chinese expats who are not murderous cultists and who are very devout Christians.

        • voegelinian says

          Jul 29, 2014 at 3:57 pm

          Mazo seems to be simultaneously pro-Asian and anti-Asian.

        • gravenimage says

          Jul 30, 2014 at 3:35 pm

          Voegelinian wrote:

          Mazo seems to be simultaneously pro-Asian and anti-Asian.
          ………………………………..

          Voegelinian, I believe that everything Mazo says, partially true or completely false, pro-Asian or anti-Asian, has to be seen through the prism of his consistent apologia for Jihad.

          His usual tactics are either minimizing the threat of Jihad and Shari’ah, or else using false moral equivalence to imply that non-Muslims are just as savage as are ravening Mohammedans.

          If his being critical of the Chinese government accomplishes this, fine; if his chiding those here for being critical of Communism works, then he will do that; if he can falsely accuse those here of being uncaring of the Asian victims of Jihad and hence “racist”, then he will do that; and when all else fails, he will just launch into a long and off-topic treatise on Ma Bufang and the history of the Hui, or of ancient Tibetan Buddhist theocracy, just to deflect attention from the latest Muslim Jihad atrocity. *Ugh*.

      • enwhitenment says

        Jul 29, 2014 at 7:51 pm

        The farmers actually believe in cults and superstitious trash.
        Mazo that sounds like the muhammadans ?.
        Mazo is playing monkey see monkey do.
        Mazo is a monkey dressed up like a human but still thinks like a monkey.

      • Kepha says

        Jul 29, 2014 at 11:44 pm

        For the benefit of others here: The banner on the army truck reads “Harmonious stability is a blessing; separtist destruction a disaster.”

        @Mazo:

        @Mazo: My mother-in-law came from a rural Hakka family; my wife is both Hakka and Christian (like Dr. Sun Zhongshan, I understand). Neither are murderous. I have done a lot of worshiping, praying, and sermon-hearing in Putonghua and Kejiayu myself. While I may be critical of Chinese folk religion, Mahayana Buddhism, and Daoism, my general impression of rural Hakka people is that they are thrifty, industrious, hospitable, and, when not imposed upon by a crack-brained government, careful stewards of the land they work. Frankly, I feel that you have not tasted tea, tangerines, watermelons, pineapples, shaddocks, and lychees unless you’ve had those grown in certain parts of Taiwan!

        As for the superstitious trash which many Chinese follow (including urban people, in my experience), we pray and quietly witness to our relatives who are not Christians. But I can only pause to notice that their traditions also include a near-instinctive understanding that there’s more to the world than one’s own ego; that we have a connection to a family and should honor our elders (not too unlike something in Exodus 20 and Deuteronomy 5); and that people should look out for fellow family members. This I do not see as “trash”.

        As for Eastern Lightning, the general consensus of Christian doctrine all over the world is that Jesus returns from heaven to judge the living and the dead; not in some reincarnation. I refer you to Paul’s Letters to the Thessalonians in the New Testament. My guess is that Zhao Weishan and Yang Xiangbin got some ideas of Mahayana Buddhism mixed up with their “Christianity”. For the rest of us, however, the one and only Word-made-flesh (道成肉身–约翰福音一章十四节) is the Jew Jesus Christ, born in the days of Herod the Great and Augustus Caesar, who suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, dead, and buried, and rose from the dead on the third day–and there can be no other.

        The growing churches in China are not just Shouters, Witness Lee Disciples, and Eastern Lightning. Most others that would be very recognizable to a Western or African Evangelical who learned the Chinese language have sprung up, too. Further, Christian immigrants from China tend to fit in very nicely among other Christians in America, once the language barrier is overcome. I have known some very fine people among the Evangelical Christians on both sides of the Taiwan Strait and from the Nanyang; and count it a divine blessing to have been part of their fellowships ; just as I have been privileged to worship with white, black, and Latin people in America. They are people who remain in my prayers.

        @medina: The Chinese Communist government blows hot and cold on religious groups at various times. There have indeed been terrible persecutions in the past; and high-handed actions even now (such as the demolition of the largest church building in Wenzhou, Zhejiang Province). As for Muslims, there is an official umbrella organization for Chinese Muslims analogous to the Three Self Church (very misnamed, considering that the idea was lifted from the early 20th century missionary Nevius).

        Further, unregistered mosques are also a phenomenon in China among all Muslim groups, including Hui. It’s just that the Eastern Turkistan people also have a nationalism issue going on–a nationalism that speaks the language of Islamic doctrine.

        Note: Mazo is right that Stalin pinned the “Uyghur” designation on the sedentary Turkic-speaking people of the Tarim Basin and Dzungaria who formerly called themselves “Turki” (Turks) or after their home places, erroneously connecting them to the 8th century Uyghur of what’s now Mongolia and Gansu. Probably the only real “Uyghurs” in that sense are a small, Lama Buddhist group living near the Gansu-Qinghai border who call themselves Sarigh Yughur (Yellow Uyghur). But since Mao Zedong and his Communist Party were all such good little boys and girls to Papa Stalin, the “Uyghur” label stuck. However, about the term Dzungaria, that was given because the Buddhist Mongol Dzungars made themselves a ruling caste over the Northern Silk Route back in the 17th-18th centuries. The sedentary, subject population was even then largely Turkic and Muslim–with some numbers of Han and Hui as well. Russian and Western sources referred to the sedentary Turks of Dzungaria as “Taranchai”. Keep in mind that as Lenin’s Commissar for Nationalities, Stalin could pin whatever label he liked on any Soviet ethnic group, including those like the Eastern Turkistan Turki who slopped over the Sino-Soviet border.

        As for non-Muslim terrorism, I’ve heard of some in certain rural areas of southern China–where absolutely nobody was Muslim.

        Some concerned the Once Child Policy back in the 1980’s and 1990’s. There were numbers of [under-reported] incidents in areas where everyone was related in which health officials who got a little too zealous about enforcing the One Child Policy would be murdered or “disappeared”. Some may have even had parts of their bodies offered to the spirits of the aborted children or even cannibalized (as in the famous old novel _Water Margin_). Some even took vengeance by murdering health officials’ own children. In some cases, local officials took to reporting “abnormal numbers of multiple births” in their counties where enforcing the Center’s policies might be too dangerous.

        Now, you’ve heard me right when I express pride in my Chinese connections; and I’ve often expressed a bit of respect for Chinese culture. But, just as Americans have gunslinging and lynching in their history, the Sinosphere also has its kinds of violence that can be pretty nasty. Come to think of it, if the US government wanted to abort my grandkids, and I had enough sympathetic neighbors with whom to conspire, there’s no telling what i might do should the minion charged with enforcing such a policy show up.

        And I will hazard a guess that Mazo’s own Hui kinfolk in rural parts of Ningxia, Gansu, Yunnan, and elsewhere might also have been a more than a little intractable and dangerous about the One Child Policy–regardless of their degree of devotion to Islam.

        Another incident, which a close friend of mine witnessed, involved a mob of peasants attacking Party cadre over a land deal with some Sino-Thai businessmen (it was in the Chaozhou aea of Guangdong). The peasants thought their compensation for the loss of the use of land would not be enough to see them through the period of adjustment, so they rioted. One of the particularly odious cadre escaped, so the crowd–people raised to honor their elders and on filial piety and all that–found his aged mother and broke both of her legs. Further, the villages in question had absolutely no Muslims at all; the only Middle Eastern religion present among them being a small Christian presence.

        A harsh government is worse than a tiger, so it may sometimes need its pelt turned into a rug or a museum piece. But I also note that there is a deep, vengeance-happy and cruel streak among these distant Southern Chinese kin of mine–even if they have a lot of positive traits that made me feel very much at home when I was living and working among them.

        • Mazo says

          Jul 30, 2014 at 12:27 am

          The Taranchis were brought over to Dzungaria by the Dzungars and Qing to produce food for the Dzungars and Manchu banners. They were not native to there and they were not the majority.

          Dzungaria is majority steppe grassland, the only sedentary area was Ili before modern times. Only Dzungar nomads lived in the Dzunggar Basin. It was not a Turkic area and was not inhabited by farmers of any sort.

          The Dzungars conquered the Tarim Basin and made themselves the ruling caste over the sedentary Turkic Muslims there, in their own homeland in Dzungaria they were the majority.

          Before the 17th century, the Ili valley (Ghulja) in Dzungaria was also largely uninhabited due to warfare as the Dzungars fought others around the area. There were no sedentary Turkic farmers.

          Then the Dzungars were invited to invade the Tarim Basin (Altishahr) by the Afaqi Khojas, who were locked in a power struggle with the Ishaqi Khojas. The Dzungars conquered the (modern Uyghur ancestors) in the Tarim Basin by 1680, and set up the Afaqi Khojas as their puppet rulers over the sedentary Turkic peoples.

          The Dzungars decided to move a few thousand of these sedentary Turkic farmers from the Tarim Basin oases, to the Ili valley (Ghulja, in Dzungaria). These migrant farmers became known as the Taranchi, and they produced crops for their nomadic Dzungar masters.

          After the Qing annihilated the Dzungars, the Qing decided to ship tens of thousands of more Turkic Muslims from the Tarim Basin to Ili valley so they could farm and provide food to the Manchu, Xibe, and Solon Banners. They also became known as Taranchil The Qing also moved hundreds of thousands of Han and Hui from Gansu and Shaanxi into other parts of Dzungaria to farm for the same reason.

          Dzungaria became a Han and Hui majority region under Qing rule at the beginning of the 19th century. Han and Hui made up 1/3 of the total population of Xinjiang around that time.

          After the Dungan revolt in the 1860s, most of the Han, Hui, and Manchu population in Dzungaria were killed until only a few tens of thousands remained, while the Uyghur population in the Tarim Basin grew exponentially. Uyghurs from the Tarim Basin then began settling in Dzungaria in former Han and Hui dominated areas. This is how they got spread over Dzungaria in modern times. Do not think that it was like that just 200 years ago.

          Rebiya Kadeer mentioned in her autobiography that her family moved from a town somewhere in the Tarim Basin to Ili at this time. In short, her family are colonialists, former Soviet sympathizers, and hypocrites. She and WUC keep demanding “settlers” be removed, perhaps she should remove her fellow Uyghur settlers from Dzungaria and go back to Kashgar.

          The Ili valley is barely 5% of the entire Dzungaria if you look at a map. That is the area where the Dzungars and Qing placed the Taranchi after moving them from the Tarim Basin.

          Most of the Uyghurs responsible for the Urumqi riots, were recent migrant laborers from the Tarim Basin who moved north to Urumqi (in Dzungaria). They are not native there and they are the colonialists too.

          “Eastern Turkestan” is a Russian/western name used in the 19th century, later hijacked by Uyghur nationalists. It is not the native name of the Tarim Basin. The “Uyghurs” used to call the Tarim Basin “Altishahr”, which means six cities in their language.

          It is offensive to the native Iranic Pamiri people (classified as Tajik in China) who also live in the region and are not Turkic. Just like Turkey renaming Anatolia as Turkiye, and denying the existence of Kurds.

        • Centurion_Cornelius says

          Jul 30, 2014 at 6:19 am

          Wow! Great comments from “someone who knows…”

    • Shane says

      Jul 30, 2014 at 10:33 am

      Now China clearly has a Muslim problem along with almost all Western nations. If the USA, Russia, and China could unite against Islamic jihad, we could defeat it. I don’t think that will happen unless the Muslims inflict massive numbers of casualties in these three countries.

      • GuntherL says

        Aug 2, 2014 at 11:31 am

        Western Europe is turning anti-Islamic rapidly. Most locals really dislike Islam. Russians hate muslims and so do most Indians. About the Chinese: they don’t have this ridiculous feeling of guilt and they will deal with Islam their own way.

  2. mary_gonzales says

    Jul 29, 2014 at 1:26 pm

    China is good enough for treating terror. Maybe government should expell that uighur people back to nepal or pakistan other islamistan if they continue endanger the country.
    This is just the beginning.. more ignoring will give more killing.

    Umm..where is Mr. Ban speech over uighur’s rights?

  3. jewdog says

    Jul 29, 2014 at 1:30 pm

    People who go around randomly murdering people probably aren’t freedom fighters.

  4. Mazo says

    Jul 29, 2014 at 1:58 pm

    Why do you keep pretending that your media is pro-Islam, rather than anti-China?

    Your western media hates China. Your media promotes homosexuality in China. Your US Congress funds the World Uyghur Congress and hosts Rebiya Kadeer, the daughter of a man who by her own admission, fought with the pro-Stalin Ili National Army (and slaughtered thousands of civilians in the Ili Rebellion.) They viewed Stalin as their best friend.

    Your media does not promote Islam against pro-western puppet states like Philippines and Indonesia. Your government supported the Philippines in its slaughter of Moro Muslims and even sent troops to help them. Your government supported Indonesia in slaughtering Acehnese Muslims, East Timorese, and West Papuans.

    Yet your government has Uyghur and Tibetan language service on Radio Free Asia. There is no Tausug, Maguinanaon, Maranao, Acehnese, or Papuan language service, because the dirty puppet regimes serve America’s interests.

    And there has not been a single terrorist attack by Muslim Hui, Salar, Dongxiang, and Bonan. In fact only Uyghurs who mix nationalism with Islam are committing terrorist attacks.

    It was Pan Turkists who waged the rebellion in 1933-34 before they were crushed by Hui, Uyghur Communists who rebelled in 1944-46 and again Uyghur Communists who waged insurgency from the 1960s to the 1990s when the Soviet Union collapsed and their supplies and funding dissapated. This is Uyghur separatist nationalism being poisonously and wrongly mixed with Islam.

    Your media and government want to promote Uyghurs as oppressed freedom fighters because they fear China.

    • Angemon says

      Jul 29, 2014 at 2:06 pm

      Q: How does any of that relates to the latest act of islamic jihad reported in China?

      A: It doesn’t, it’s just another futile exercise in obfuscation.

    • Kepha says

      Jul 30, 2014 at 12:12 am

      When you raise issues of the languages in which RFA broadcasts, the issue is probably that enough people in the Philippines understand Tagalog, while enough people in eastern Indonesia understand Bahasa Indonesia. There’s also the issue of recruiting trained broadcaster. Further, I don’t notice any RFA broadcasts in 客家话,闽南话,闽东语,吴语,潮州话,海南话, or even the 广东四邑话 when America has lots of people who speak that last-mentioned dialect. I doubt they have service in any of the dialects used by the Yi or Hmong or Zhuang people. I suspect that there are languages of the Subcontinent spoken by tens of millions of people in which RFA doesn’t broadcast, either. But, it might just also be the case that India allows a wide enough freedom of speech. As for Papuan, there is no Papuan language: about 1500 native languages are spoken on the western half of New Guinea, and more are being discovered!

      Also, I am old enough to remember most of the US media all ga-ga and aglow over Mao Zedong and the wonderful things he did for China. A few years later, I could get disbelieving nervous titters out of anyone from Mainland China olf enough to remember the Cultural Revolution when I reported how, as a college student, I heard that the highest level of sustainable agricultural production and participatory democracy had been attained by the Dazhai Commune in Shanxi (陕西) Province.

      Frankly, I think a lot of our media felt that Mainland China swindled them–and Americans get pretty nasty about anyone whom they think has swindled them. Seriously, I recall a lot of people in the 1970’s who went to Mainland China all starry-eyed and idealistic, expecting to find a new Messiah there; but later came back very disappointed. Some of the lustre on Communist China wore off pretty quickly as more and more American journalists and students started getting access to Mainland China and learned that not everyone was a smiling propaganda-poster figure. The Democracy Wall business in 1979 was something of a jolt to our media, and then came the events of 1989 which, for the American media, was quite a kick in the stomach.

      By the way, back when I was a college student, if you told a college classroom that Mao Zedong was being a colonialist in Tibet, a liberal-humanist-pacifist-progressive would break your glasses and your nose and teeth with them. It was a matter of faith that all Tibetan monks were evil, child-murdering, oppressive monsters. Hence, when I go to a college campus and see all the “Free Tibet” stickers sported by our current crop of “progressive” students and their [de]menotrs, I’m more amused than anything else. Maybe it’s just because I’m old.

      Now, there are even cynical people running around who say that the Chinese bought off Pres. Clinton and had him pull a deliberate bombing of the Chinese Embassy in Belgrade to defuse China’s coming 20-year dissension itch.

      Back in the 1960’s and 1970’s, Americans learned that their country wasn’t the shining city on the hill as the Civil Rights and Antiwar movements blossomed. Maybe it’s coming to be China’s turn to face up to the less than lovely episodes in its modern history.

      Having a foot in both cultures, I promise it won’t be easy. But, it will pass. It will pass.

      • Mazo says

        Jul 30, 2014 at 1:09 am

        Uyghurs in Turpan and Hami (Kumul) are most pro-China. They joined the Qing voluntarily and helped the Qing fight the Uyghurs in the Tarim Basin under the Khojas. That is why the Qing ruled them as semi-feudal fiefdoms with their own monarch, while the Uyghurs in the Tarim were ruled differently.

        The official restricitions on religious education and worship are not enforced by Communist officials in Turpan like they are in areas like Kashgar and Ili. Kashgar is the main center of separatist violence and discontent and has been that way before the Communists came to power.

        Tibetans are divided into three main subgroups- Amdo (Qinghai), Kham (former Xikang province) and Tibet proper (U-Tsang).

        Amdo and Kham have not been under Lhasa’s rule since the Tibetan Empire collapsed over 1,000 years ago. Amdowans view themselves as distinct, and Kham especially so. Kham rebelled against Lhasa several times and in 1950 under Rapga, they gave next to zero resistance to the PLA, hoping that the PLA would roll right through and squash the U-Tsang Tibetans in Lhasa.

        The current Dalai Lama is from Amdo and spoke Xining Mandarin as his first language, but he has spent most of his formative years in U-Tsang and does not represent the typical Amdowan.

        Amdowans and Kham revolted in 1958 because of the collectivization policy by the Communist party. They originally did not care in 1950 that U-Tsang and Lhasa was going to get flattened and Amdo especiually never indicated that they wanted to join Lhasa and become independent.

        The Kuomintang under Chiang Kai-shek backed the Khamba leader Pandatsang Rapga, who led the Khamba dominated Tibet Improvement Party to plot to overthrow the Dalai Lama and expel British imperialism from Tibet. He wanted to reform and modernize the monastery system.

        The ninth Panchen Lama and Hutukhtu both opposed the Dalai Lama, and defected to the Kuomintang.

        The Amdowan Tibetans served in Ma Bufang’s army and their princes and feudal leaders pledged alleigance to Ma, not the Dalai Lama.

  5. Mazo says

    Jul 29, 2014 at 2:23 pm

    Tibetan Buddhist Lamas were known to behave in the same manner as these Uyghur terrorists. They would used their monastaries like Labrang and Batang as bases for war, and they would instigate and lead ordinary Tibetans on pogroms and mass killing rampages against non-Tibetans.

    It happened in 1905 when Tibetan Lamas from Batang tortured and beheaded French Catholic missionaries, mounted their heads on spikes, and then targeted non-Tibetan civilians for murder.

    In Labrang the Lamas were extreme xenophobes and violently assaulted foreign Christian missionaries who came near. Labrang was brought back into line by the Hui Muslim General Ma Qi.

    When Tibet decided to get too greedy for land in 1932, they were brought back into line and thouroughly beaten by the Hui Muslim General Ma Bufang and had land taken back from them instead.

    It was Ma Bufang’s cousin who coincidentally crushed the Uyghur seperatists in Kashgar in 1934.

    The free Tibet movement supports these Uyghur terrorists, the Dalai Lama endorsed Rebiya Kadeer (daughter of an ex-pro Soviet, pro Stalin “rebel”).

    You can bet that the reason free Tibet people aren’t boasting about the “resistance” at Batang and Labrang like they do against the communists, is because its bad publicity and the Dalai Lama doesn’t want to look like the head of a cult of lunatics to his liberal western admirers and fans, so they toned it down for now.

    • Angemon says

      Jul 29, 2014 at 2:49 pm

      Yay, more fallacious and irrelevant tu quoquery! So we can’t speak ill of the Uyghur and their islamic motivations because the tibetans also had armed uprisings around 100 years ago, is that it? According to you, we should just:

      http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/03/china-islamic-jihadists-murder-27-injure-109-in-jihad-attack-at-kunming-railway-station/comment-page-1#comment-1015460

      “go eat a tub of sand and never ever stick your nose into asian affairs again“

  6. JeffS says

    Jul 29, 2014 at 2:30 pm

    “In recent months there has been an upsurge in Xinjiang-linked violence that authorities have attributed to Uighur separatists.”

    So if the Chinese authorities “attributed” it to Uighurs, it might not really be Uighurs. Must be those pesky Quakers again.

  7. voegelinian says

    Jul 29, 2014 at 4:03 pm

    Interesting: Asian Muslims (whether Far East or SE Asian), unlike Muslims elsewhere, seem to prefer the “running amok” style of jihad — using knives, daggers, and swords and plunging into crowds in order to mass-murder by stabbing and hacking.

    Just another example of the wonderful diversity of Islam.

    • Mazo says

      Jul 29, 2014 at 8:01 pm

      First of all, when a Malay runs “amok”, he stabs everyone in his vicinity, regardless of whether they are non-Muslim or Muslim, and the state of being amok is not a targeted assault but rather a spontaneous outburst.

      Secondly, if your orientalist brain hadn’t been busy overanalyzing this crap, younwould know that the only reason they use bladed weapons is because East asian countries practice gun control, civilians are banned from carrying guns in China, Japan, Korea, Taiwan..

      The reason why they plunge into the crowds and stab wildly is because that is obviously the most efficient way to kill as many people as possible with a melee bladed weapon.

      If they had access to guns, they would obviously not be doing that, and shooting people from a distance instead.

      There were multiple stabbings by non-Muslim mentally ill people at various schools across China, there was one in Japan too who stabbed people on the streets.

      Uyghurs have plenty of access to knives, the Communist party in fact exempted Uyghurs from the law banning knife carrying since they are considered to have a “knife culture” (like Sikhs being allowed to carry daggers for cultural reasons in western countries). Yengisar has been a center for Uyghur craftsmen making artisan knives for centuries. They traditionally carry knives around with them whereever they go for cultural reasons.

      No other group in China is allowed this exemption. Han people, Hui Muslims, Salar Muslims, Dongxiang Muslims, Bonan Muslims, Mongols, Manchus, and Tibetans are all not allowed to carry knives or bladed weapons unlike Uyghurs since we don’t have a “knife culture” like Uyghurs or Sikhs.

      But I suspect that the reason you deliberately overlooked the obvious reasons they use knives, which resemble nothing close to running amok, is because you were looking for a reason to spam another link to your narcisstic dripping blog.

      • Champ says

        Jul 29, 2014 at 8:25 pm

        “Mazo” continues to amaze as he defends the indefensible …typical jive from a mohammedan slave!

      • voegelinian says

        Jul 30, 2014 at 12:33 pm

        First of all, when a Malay runs “amok”, he stabs everyone in his vicinity, regardless of whether they are non-Muslim or Muslim…

        So what? Muslims kill Muslims all the time — most Muslim victims are at the hands of other Muslims.

        • Mazo says

          Jul 30, 2014 at 1:43 pm

          Amok has nothing to do with jihad you fool, it fulfills no religious purpose nor obligation. By definition, is the work of a crazy person randomly stabbing people for absolutely no reason at all.

        • gravenimage says

          Jul 30, 2014 at 4:13 pm

          Mazo wrote:

          Amok has nothing to do with jihad you fool, it fulfills no religious purpose nor obligation. By definition, is the work of a crazy person randomly stabbing people for absolutely no reason at all.
          ……………………………

          This is not really the case—Running Amok is very much a *Muslim* phenomenon, where the reaction to any stress is violence, whether “random” or targeted at women, Infidels, or their “other-sect” coreligionists.

          It is, in fact, closely related to “Sudden Jihad Syndrome”.

        • Mazo says

          Jul 30, 2014 at 8:44 pm

          Cravenmirage, any sources for this sh1t you are claiming?

          Amok was part of the mostly animist Malay spritiual beliefs, back when they worshipped spirits until the recent Islamic revival in the 1970s.

          Malays believed that a Tiger spirit would posses a person and cause them to go amok.

          http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC181064/

          Tell me cravenmirage, what does this $h1t have to do with Islam?

          Running amok was in fact noted by western observers because it was distinct and contrary to actual forms of personal Jihad practiced in southeast asia.

          Parrang Sabil (called Juramentado by the Spanish) involved a person performing a martyrdom/suicide attack directed at a specific enemy, launching themselves at the enemy and stabbing as many of them to death before dying themselves. This was considered a form of personal Jihad.

          Running amok involves no such targeting of any enemies and is completely random, and has nothing to do with Jihad.

          And cravenmirage keeps speaking bulsh1t about violence between “sects”, she even called the violence between Kurds and Turks as being between “orthodox” and less “pious” Muslims, if she bothered to look up what was going on, it has nothing to do with sect (both Turks and Kurds are Sunni) or piety, but because of ethnic nationalism- ultra nationalist Turks ban Kurdish language in public, don’t allow Kurdish language teaching and even denied that Kurds existed, calling them “mountain Turks”.

          None of that sh1t has anything to do with Islam or sects, its pure racism and ultranationalism.

        • voegelinian says

          Jul 30, 2014 at 8:51 pm

          Mazo seems to think that if a sociocultural phenomenon can be found outside of Islam, it then has nothing to do with Islam. By that same logic, we can say that any and all killing is “not Islamic”.

        • gravenimage says

          Jul 30, 2014 at 9:14 pm

          What crap from Mazo. I have never once claimed that Kurds and Turks are from different sects—I have just noted that Muslims love abusing and killing “other sect” Muslims.

          And who can say that this is not true? There is the sanguinary Sunni/Shi’ite split, and more orthodox Muslims regularly slaughter Alawites and Ahmadi.

          The news is full of such stories:

          “Pakistan: Sunni Muslim mob murders five Ahmadis for ‘blasphemy’”

          http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/07/pakistan-sunni-muslim-mob-murders-five-ahmadis-for-blasphemy

          And here’s a Fatwa permitting the rape of all non-Sunni women in Syria—including their Shia and Alawite coreligionists:

          http://www.infowars.com/islamic-cleric-issues-fatwa-permitting-rape-of-syrian-women/

  8. Flying fish says

    Jul 29, 2014 at 4:55 pm

    It’s funny to see how muslims are the only group that commit constant acts of terrorism in china even if religious-based persecution affects all-religious groups in that country. It’s funny to see how they (and their sympathizers) quickly use the víctim card (because they are “oppressed”) to justify their terror acts, intolerance toward non-muslims and savagery.

    I wonder if they would admit the same argument if someone, for example, beat up a moslem passing by to protest against the islamic-based genocide on non-muslims thats taking place around the world, committed by a large array of groups composed by countless muslim devouts (and quranic connaisseurs/experts)

    • Mazo says

      Jul 29, 2014 at 8:08 pm

      Its only Uyghur nationalists who are being murderous terrorists, no other Muslim ethnic group on China does this. Hui, Salar, Dongxiang, and Bonan have committed a grand total of zero terrorist attacks. Hui outnumber Uyghurs.

      You should look at this from a racial/ethnic perspective. Uyghur nationalists are fanatic racists, conceited, and believe their culture is superior. Turghun Almas claimed Uyghurs were the origin of world civilization , the oldest people on Earth, and that they invented everything important. They are worse than afrocentrists with inferiority complexes claiming everyone was black.

      • Kepha says

        Jul 30, 2014 at 12:20 am

        “Uyghur nationalists are fanatic racists, conceited, and believe their culture is superior. ”

        In short, they’re a lot like any other highly aggrieved sort of nationalist from any other part of the world.

  9. Carlos Danger says

    Jul 29, 2014 at 7:35 pm

    I’ve always regarded the Chinese “communist” government in Beijing to be extremely pragmatic. I thought that there would be zero tolerance for jihadists, and that they and their supporters would soon find themselves on the wrong end of the liver & kidney black market. Color me both wrong and shocked.

    • Mazo says

      Jul 29, 2014 at 8:13 pm

      They have a high tolerant for shit like allowing Uyghurs to carry bladed weapons for cultural reasons while banning everyone else from doing the same.

  10. medina says

    Jul 29, 2014 at 9:31 pm

    The Red Chinese have always treated Christians brutally. The Christians’ crimes? House churches, prayer meetings, and unauthorized church buildings (which are subsequently razed). Kind of amazing that this same brutality is not the remedy for a cult which has carried out numerous mass murders in China.

    And I’m not referring to the commie-infiltrated Patriotic Church. Why isn’t there a Patriotic Ummah for the muslims whose violence is clearly on par with their communist leaders?

  11. The Vilest Of Creatures says

    Jul 29, 2014 at 10:11 pm

    WHAT?

    Those cops used GUNS on the Muslims who were only using KNIVES?

    How can the UN stand for this egregious example of DISPROPORTIONATE RESPONSE?

    Better send John Kerry over to Beijing right NOW!

  12. bobm says

    Jul 29, 2014 at 11:06 pm

    ..West, China , Japan, Russia…alliance now to confront spirit of Mahdi dreams in Iraq, Syria, Africa, China .. any muslim nation confronting the burn out of these psychopaths must be militarily neutralized.. this Islamic virus is not going to stop till they cannot walk.. period… this seems presently to be absolutely necessary to me… jihadi growth elsewhere can only be stopped by defeating islam at its root power intent..its cutting edge. …. now or later..later will be very hard. This zealot spirit has no real opposition in Islamic lands because it IS the essence of islam at its vicious core.

  13. name says

    Jul 30, 2014 at 4:20 am

    i think this knife wielding bastards in action is not something surprising especially when it happens in kasghar (or aksu)
    i think more like this will happen in the future, well you have to let the shit out first before wiping it so no hard feeling

  14. Rajivi says

    Jul 30, 2014 at 6:45 am

    “Police officers at the scene shot dead dozens of members of the mob,”..At least there is one country which takes immediate action to contain the Muslim rioters… EU countries have to follow this, if they are to live in peace, bt vote bank politics plays its game here too, treating the invaders as VIPs..as against the local populace.

  15. gravenimage says

    Jul 30, 2014 at 3:23 pm

    China: Knife-wielding Muslims attack police station, government offices, dozens dead or injured

    The jihad in China continues to escalate…
    ……………………………….

    Yes, it does. And one need not be any fan of the government of Communist China to see that. In just the same way, I am very critical of Burma’s government—especially before their recent slight thawing. But the Jihad against them, and against authoritarian Russia—is *just* the same as it is against more democratic polities.

    To pious Muslims, it makes no difference if they are murdering communists, or socialists, or monarchists, or those of a struggling “emerging” third world nation, or enlightened Jeffersonian democrats—in the end, we are all just “filthy Kuffar”.

    Moreover, whatever the place, and whatever its people’s specific problems, it *is not* going to made better by having a bloody Jihad waged against its citizens.

    • Angemon says

      Jul 30, 2014 at 3:33 pm

      gravenimage posted:

      “To pious Muslims, it makes no difference if they are murdering communists, or socialists, or monarchists, or those of a struggling “emerging” third world nation, or enlightened Jeffersonian democrats”

      Or even other muslims who aren’t muslim enough. Wait, make that “especially other muslims who aren’t muslim enough”.

      • gravenimage says

        Jul 30, 2014 at 4:46 pm

        *Very* true, Angemon.

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