“The objective of this bill is to increase the number of hurdles to discourage those who want to go and to stop them actually going.”
What a capital idea. Why hasn’t anyone thought of it in the U.S. or Great Britain?
“France set to prevent jihadists going to fight or train abroad,” Reuters, July 8, 2014 (thanks to Thomas Pellow):
(Reuters) – France plans to ban individuals linked to radical Islamist groups from leaving the country in a bid to prevent attacks by militants returning from the Middle East, according to a draft bill set to be unveiled on Wednesday.
France has seen a sharp rise this year in citizens going to join Islamic militants in Syria and now Iraq.
“We have a duty to react as almost 800 young people are involved,” Interior Minister Bernard Cazeneuve told Tuesday’s edition of the daily Le Parisien.
Of that figure, some 600 French nationals are either currently in Syria or planning to go there, he said.
French national Mehdi Nemmouche, arrested on charges of shooting dead four people in May at the Jewish Museum in Brussels, is suspected to have spent most of last year in Syria, fighting with Islamist rebels. Cazeneuve said about 100 people were currently on their way back to France from Syria.
European governments have been tightening anti-terrorism laws over the last 18 months as the Syrian conflict enters its fourth year. In June, nine countries agreed to share more intelligence and take down radical websites to try to stop Europeans going to fight in Syria and bringing militancy home.
France has long been a target for Islamist militants because of its record as a colonial power in North Africa and problems integrating its large Muslim minority.
It has nonetheless had broad success at averting attacks due to its security apparatus and some of Europe’s toughest anti-terrorism laws, which include the ability to hold a suspect for up to 96 hours without charge.
However, the ease of communication through social media and the growing turmoil in the Middle East have created new pressures, and the government has been criticized for not stopping French nationals as young as 14 from heading to Syria.
DISCOURAGE AND PREVENT
“The objective of this bill is to increase the number of hurdles to discourage those who want to go and to stop them actually going,” said an Interior Ministry source.
Cazeneuve, who has already put in place a raft of policies this year to try to prevent young French Muslims becoming radicalized, will unveil the bill to cabinet on Wednesday.
Principally, it allows authorities to stop French nationals traveling overseas for an indefinite period if they are suspected of having firm links to a jihadist network.
Investigators will also now be able to hold and question individuals on a low threshold of evidence, under broad “suspicion of conspiring in relation to terrorism” – a measure intended to catch those who only associate loosely with other potential militants.
“Lone wolves are not necessarily as alone as we think,” said the source.
The bill would also allow websites that condone terrorism to be blocked without a judge’s approval.
The bill has raised civil rights concerns from some NGOs and lawmakers; the article on the internet has been sent to the European Commission to ensure it complies with EU legislation.
“France will not tolerate messages calling for or glorifying jihad to be shown on its soil with impunity,” the draft says….
We’ll see.
Guy Macher says
The French! So close to being right. Let them go! Just don’t let them come back!!!
Jay Boo says
Deliver them directly to Syria and let Assad’s troops escort them to their final destination.
Jay Boo says
Provided, of course that Assad promises safe passage.
Larry Leeds says
Exactly what I was thinking.
jewdog says
What this shows is that as the percentage of Muslims increases in a country, restrictions on civil liberties for everyone rise in an effort to control them. The best solution is to not have so many Muslims in the first place. Decrease the Muslims and you can relax more and enjoy life. There are plenty of friendlier people who’d like to live in France.
Just finished reading Rick Atkinson’s trilogy on World War II – really great book. The French employed Moroccan Berber Goumiers (les Goums) in Italy, especially around Monte Casino. They were very fierce and sliced up a lot of Nazi troops with their knives. Outside the fighting, however, they had a nasty habit of raping Italian girls. Evetually the French imported Berber women to help satisfy them.
shortfattexan says
Experience has shown that you can have any two of the following, but never all three: a large Muslim population, a free society, or a peaceful society.
Countries with large Muslim populations (whether or not they constitute the majority) are either police states on permanent lockdown, or else they are constantly afflicted with Muslim violence (or both).
voegelinian says
It’s much worse than the book you read apparently described.
For a more detailed account of the concerted terror those Muslim “allies” wrought in Italy during the WW2 liberation of Italy, see this:
Think globally, pillage locally
http://hesperado.blogspot.com/2011/10/think-globally-pillage-locally.html
tpellow says
At least France’s message gets to Lebanon-
“France to ban jihadists from leaving the country.”
http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/World/2014/Jul-08/263101-france-to-ban-jihadists-from-leaving-the-country.ashx#axzz36vBEKiq9
tpellow says
-But France’s message is likely to be ignored by dhimmi British government as it continues to appease Islamic interests, in run up to General Election.
Isabella says
I would let them go, but I would forbid them to come back in France. What will happen otherwise? Their anger of not being able to get out of France will not go away. Au contraire!! The retaliation will follow in France. This is an opportunity to take away their French citizenship. Bon Voyage Muzzies!
PRCS says
I think–don’t know for sure–that if they get back to any EU country then travel to any other EU country is easy and more difficult to control.
Maybe?
Chrisleo says
These people need to go and should be allowed to go, get radicalised and brutalised in the war in Iraq and Syria, then please do, return to Europe and start their Jihad over here, its the only way we in Europe will wake up and start hitting back, pull us out of complacency and our comfort zones, its the spark we actually need to start a Europe wide revolution that will see the end of the nightmare of multiculturalism and appeasement of Muslims.
voegelinian says
They’ve already been doing what you describe for years. Apparently it’s going to have to get markedly worse before the West wakes up. And when I say “markedly” I mean a degree that the typical JW Softy would have to adjust by multiplying what they in their timid and curiously ordinary imagination suppose by something on the order of 50.
onisac says
I’m guessing it’s far to late to consider enforcing law and order in France against Muslims…
David says
Let them go, that’s a good thing, just stop them coming back in. Bit by bit the western Muslims show their true selves in ways such as this, bit by bit the average Joe in the street is starting to get the full picture of what they are all about.
voegelinian says
If by “bit by bit” you mean to denote an achingly glacial stillicide lasting unconscionable decades during which likely millions of us will be mass-murdered; then yes.
Louise from Canada says
Don’t trust that Cazaneuve, he is an hypocrite because he loves those islamists pigs. He said not to long ago that he will be celebrating onJuly 9th, the Iftar at the great mosque of Paris. He also said that muslims are an integral part of “our national novel” and that each muslim of France should be proud. Go see Riposte Laique’s web site ( something like Jihad Watch but in French) and you will learn much much more about what’s happening in France with all of those leftists liars.