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Growing number of UK Muslimas moving to Islamic State to raise children

Jul 20, 2014 9:05 pm By Robert Spencer

jihadkid“A growing group of British women have moved to Syria to raise children under the radical Isis regime.” Where did these “British” women learn their understanding of Islam? British authorities know that the vast majority of Muslims in Britain have no interest in jihad violence, and that the real problem is “Islamophobia” — so why has “a growing group of British women” decided to raise children in the caliphate?

“Terrorist toddler: Terrifying tweet shows Jihadi son posing with a rifle,” by Sam Christie, Daily Star, July 21, 2014:

The smiling youngster, aged about four, is said to be the son of a terror group fighter in Syria.

A growing group of British women have moved to Syria to raise children under the radical Isis regime.

Using the name of Umm Isa and Muhajirah fi Sham, the mum is urging other British women to join her.

In a Twitter post she blasted: “Wer r all da sisters dat want 2 join us in Sham nd marry nd support a mujahid?”

Her boy, called Isa, the Arabic version of Jesus, has a younger brother she calls “mini mujahid” or holy warrior.

The mum is said to be a former UK student in media, film, psychology and sociology and is an Islam convert who attended a mosque in south London.

She is married to Isis fighter Abdur Rahman, from Sweden.

Her neighbour, another British woman who uses the alias Umm Khattab al-Britaniyya posted the image with the message: “Look at my little mujahid this kid is the funniest man love him to much.”

A baying mob of Isis fanatics stoned a woman to death in the Syrian town of Tabaqau after she was accused of adultery.

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  1. duh_swami says

    Jul 20, 2014 at 9:15 pm

    There’s no accounting for taste. Women have been baffling men since Eve told Adam, ‘not tonight dear, I have a headache’, to which Adam replied. ‘Whats a headache? The best thing to do is let them go to Syria, but don’t let them return.

    • dumbledoresarmy says

      Jul 20, 2014 at 11:53 pm

      Yup.

      The more of them leave the UK together with those that they are bringing-up-Jihad, the better.

      Self-deportation.

      All the UK authorities need to do, is to track their departure and, once they are definitely known to have gone, and to be in Syria: **cancel their UK citizenship and that of their offspring**.

      And the Ummah in the UK will, just a little, be cut a little more down to size.

      • Charli Main says

        Jul 21, 2014 at 6:56 am

        The British authorities will be falling over themselves to continue to send these women their welfare and child benefits pay checks to Syria.
        After all they are still ” British” citizens and we can´t have all those poor little ” British” children suffering any economic hardships.
        No one will ever be able to accuse the British taxpayer of being Islamophobic.

      • Shane says

        Jul 21, 2014 at 9:46 am

        yes, do not let these loons return.

      • Juanita says

        Jul 21, 2014 at 4:48 pm

        Self deportation correct, but those T.I.T. will soon grow up and kill out children. Oh but i’m a bad American for pointing that out.

    • Lily says

      Jul 21, 2014 at 6:05 pm

      Don’t be so sexist. There are thousands of male westerners who convert to Islam. It has nothing to do with their sex, but more with their upbringing. One can find that women and men who convert to Islam, more often than not, grow up in very dysfunctional, broken and abusive homes, where they are not given the love, stability and moral foundation they need to grow up to be productive, functional citizens of society. Such kids are very angry at society, and blame their own failures on the world. They be come rejects, or outcasts of society who desperately seek the family they never had. They will either join a gang, or cults like Islam, because there they will initially find the acceptance and attention they desperately crave need. For such kids, even negative, corrupt attention is better than none at all. These kids are the ideal targets for cults like Islam to prey on, because outcasts of a feather flock together. Why do you think Islam works hard a prisons to convert harden criminals! Initially Islam will wine them and dine them with deceitful false words of kindness, until these dysfunctional kids convert and are pulled in the spider web of Islam. Once caught in the web, they are trapped, and the indoctrination begins. Now these converts are trapped in Islam with no way out except death.

      • Lily says

        Jul 21, 2014 at 6:07 pm

        My comment was meant for Duh_Swami

      • gravenimage says

        Jul 23, 2014 at 12:18 am

        Lily wrote:

        One can find that women and men who convert to Islam, more often than not, grow up in very dysfunctional, broken and abusive homes, where they are not given the love, stability and moral foundation they need to grow up to be productive, functional citizens of society…
        ………………………..

        I grew up in just such a home. I decided that as an adult I would create a stable, moral life for myself, and that I would find love.

        Not every person who grows up with such dysfunction of driven to repeat it—or worse, as here.

        And while I have a great deal of sympathy for people who grew up in such circumstances, it *does not* absolve them of trying to live a decent life.

        And the people who go off to the new “Caliphate’ are *abusing their own children*.

  2. Beagle says

    Jul 20, 2014 at 9:42 pm

    They blow up so fast. Cherish every moment.

    • Bradamante says

      Jul 21, 2014 at 12:23 am

      It’s awful, but I’m laughing myself sick at that comment. 🙂

      • Beagle says

        Jul 21, 2014 at 11:46 am

        It’s an old one I heard after 9/11.

        Don’t get me wrong, the corruption of innocents is tragically serious. But there is next to nothing we can do to save these children from their parents. Or if there is something, let me know.

    • Shane says

      Jul 21, 2014 at 9:48 am

      good one.

    • Oliver says

      Jul 21, 2014 at 11:36 am

      I remember reading that in a column ( I think The Wall Street Journal, but not sure) years ago, and that a comdian who was born Muslim and converted to something else (I forgot what) used that. And his other line was, a young Muslim girl, goes to her mother and says, “when Abdul gets killed and goes to the virgins, can I get his room?”. (or words very similiar) and a comemtn was-funny but true.

      But, a great line.

    • BlackCat13 says

      Jul 21, 2014 at 7:00 pm

      I can’t quite laughing!

  3. Myxlplik says

    Jul 20, 2014 at 9:51 pm

    This is pure evil, and perfect way to end the article, with a stoning.

    Also, did you read the twitter retardation? WTF is up wit dat? nd didn’t she go tu colige n England? Du u hav tu b a totl imbicil tu b attraktiv nd sexy tu a mujaheddin?

    • Steffen Larsen says

      Jul 21, 2014 at 7:10 am

      heh-heh

  4. gravenimage says

    Jul 20, 2014 at 9:55 pm

    Growing number of UK Muslimas moving to Islamic State to raise children
    ………………………….

    Well, of course! Who wouldn’t want to leave one of the most civilized nations on the face of the earth to go raise their kids in a place where the pious “Mujahideen” line the streets with severed heads and stone women to death?

    God, I hate Islam.

    • Myxlplik says

      Jul 20, 2014 at 10:06 pm

      You can see a direct linguistic cultural affiliation to Afro-American social justice theology by way of the Ebonics used in the Twitter message.

      ie how Senator Ellison came to know Islam, in this particular case I think the linguistics is key, in understanding how a “liberal woman” goes to college and comes out a jihadist, or a Senator interested in “social justice” goes to college and comes out a jihadist, err I mean Muslim. Seems all mixed up how liberals can become 1000x more conservative than Republicans. “Social Justice”.

      • Myxlplik says

        Jul 20, 2014 at 10:48 pm

        In other words, Social Justice morphs into anything which is perceived as against “White Culture”, the oppressor, so since stoning women to death is against what “Whitey” believes in, it is hip and you join the Caliphate to fuck over the “man”. This logic also comes from the generation which made the Scion a cool car, and economically viable to mass produce.

        • Jay Boo says

          Jul 20, 2014 at 11:02 pm

          Myxlplik
          I think you made your point the first time.
          This second post seems to be grasping needlessly.
          Why no give it a rest?

        • WVinMN says

          Jul 21, 2014 at 1:37 am

          Which is why islam is spreading like wild fire in our (US) prison system.

        • Mirren10 says

          Jul 21, 2014 at 11:20 am

          Ebonics is really the study of the rules applied to turn English into some uneducated sounding pseudo-language whose purpose is for the most part to insult and denigrate “Whitey.” (from Urban Dictionary).

          Yes, it would not in the least surprise me to find this retarded ‘convert’ and her ‘friends’ is either black, or is white and the child’s sperm donor is black. The child looks mixed race to me.

          Well, the more the merrier ! The only downside will be if that moronic moral cretin, May, lets them back in. (if they survive !)

        • Jay Boo says

          Jul 22, 2014 at 9:59 am

          Myxlplik
          FYI — More comments at end of thread Myxlplik
          in reply to Mirren10 criticisms of my follow-up on your comment

        • Oliver says

          Jul 22, 2014 at 11:23 pm

          I agree with most of this post- but I question ( and I am sure that there will be numerous comments about my questioning you) =— why the comment about the car?

          What the hell has ” the generation which made the Scion——–” have ot do with Islam?

          There could be people (I never heard of the Scion until i saw your post-so I checked it out–seems like an inexpensive vehicle)-on a limited income or budget but oppose Islam like it-because it is economical, just as there are wealthy people who drive BMW;s, Mercedes; Bentley’s, etc.

          Why the (my reading) snide comments about people who like inexpensive cars?

  5. Mike Turner says

    Jul 20, 2014 at 10:01 pm

    I wish all of the muslims would be satisfied in living in their on state or country……but we all know their not satisfied with that. Their plan is to conquer !

  6. Wellington says

    Jul 20, 2014 at 10:08 pm

    Let ’em leave. Then never let them with their brainwashed toddlers back in again. Consigning Muzzies to the desultory, destructive, despicable and dysfunctional Islamic sphere of the earth is one of many steps that must be taken to deal with the spiritual cancer which is Islam. After all, quarantine should not be overlooked when trying to triumph over a malignant disease.

    • David, Thailand says

      Jul 21, 2014 at 1:07 am

      That’s not the way it happens.

      If any of these peaceloving mothers or their children end up hurt or in some other imminent danger, the Brit government will be groveling to give them assistance.

    • Donovan Nuera says

      Jul 21, 2014 at 2:16 am

      Better yet, so as to finally “encourage” the large muslim community in the UK to “police their own”; any British citizen, whose family are immigrants of the 1st and/or 2nd generation, who leaves to fight in any jihadi conflict outside of the the UK or commits jihadi actions within the UK or any of her Commonwealths, will have have their citizenship rescinded/revoked and their entire family (parents, children, siblings, grandparents, aunts, uncles, cousins) will be forcibly deported to their country of origin and all monetary assets will be seized except for a small amount for them to survive a week said country of origin. If any family member puts up any resistance, their local Imam will be deported (along with his family) as well and the mosque will be closed and then razed. Deportations will proceed by armed cargo ship rather than commercial airliner to avoid any act of hostility by any family member to crash the plane.

      • el-cid says

        Jul 21, 2014 at 9:46 am

        Better idea.

        Pay them to leave and give up their citizenship.

      • Judi says

        Jul 21, 2014 at 3:27 pm

        Wishful thinking!

  7. Alice says

    Jul 20, 2014 at 10:10 pm

    Good riddance!

  8. Mo says

    Jul 20, 2014 at 11:03 pm

    “Her boy, called Isa, the Arabic version of Jesus, has a younger brother she calls “mini mujahid” or holy warrior.”

    Not just child abuse of the most wicked sort, but but blasphemous on top of it. THIS is Islam. Christ has something to say about those who lead little children into evil!

    I wonder how such people will explain themselves when they stand before Christ one day to give account?

    As to these stupid women, I say good riddance. The farther they get away from civilized countries, the safer those countries will be.

    • Jan Fourowls says

      Jul 21, 2014 at 4:49 am

      Judgment Day will not bode well for practicing Muslims. Their time to approach the mercy seat of Jesus Christ is now, if they’re so religious by nature to seek heaven, because a counterfeit Allah as configured by their culture and “holy” writings is not the just but merciful God of the Bible whose Jesus (the real one, not the Quranic ripoff) said and did this, in a pre-Islamic troubled time approximately 2,000 years ago, about a mob of male religious legalists’ efforts to stone a woman caught in adultery:

      “John 8, King James Version (KJV)

      1 Jesus went unto the mount of Olives [a mountain ridge east of and adjacent to Jerusalem’s Old City, the southern part of which was the necropolis of the ancient Judean kingdom].

      2 And early in the morning he came again into the temple, and all the people came unto him; and he sat down, and taught them.

      3 And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst,

      4 They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act.

      5 Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou?

      6 This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not.

      7 So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.

      8 And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground.

      9 And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst.

      10 When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee?

      11 She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.

      12 Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.”

      This comment isn’t for JWers who have the freedom and ability to be Christian or not but for those presently constrained Muslims who might be tasked to read these comments in service to the taqiyya propaganda machine — and in so doing might start to open their minds to ultimate disavowal of the Islam that enslaves but never saves.

  9. Saleem Smith says

    Jul 20, 2014 at 11:44 pm

    Those UK Muslima slaves of Allah moving to the Islamic State to raise children cherish the idea of “pure Islam.” Pure Islam in the real world of course means fully applied Sharia law.

    We ex-Muslims living with Islam’s formal and informal death penalty for apostasy know that Islamic theology is a deadly, highly misogynistic ideology that no sane women could approve of.

    >>>>>

    Should Women Respect Muhammad and His Islam?

    Muslims love to claim that Islam has granted women equal rights. Sadly, this is not true. The Qur’an states several times that women are to be granted less rights then those enjoyed by men.

    This article will examine the status of women and their rights according to Islam, as well as some of the many disgusting things that Muhammad said regarding women.

    The inherent oppression and degradation of women in Islam is abhorrent. For every good thing Muhammad’s Islam says about women, one can easily find a passage referring to women in the most unkindly of lights. Such is the reality of the fundamentally contradictory religion of Islam. One minute Islam is the perfect religion of peace and justice – the next it commands Muslims to maim, murder and subjugate others. Muslim women should learn the truth about Islam, and fast, if they truly care about their daughters and the future of women in general.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    In controversial verse 4:34 of the Qur’an, men are told to beat their disobedient wives after first warning them and then sending them to sleep in separate beds. This horrendous verse approves of and even sanctions, domestic abuse. As we shall see momentarily, Islamic theology also permits slavery and rape. No person of sound mind and good heart could believe that this is the wish of god. Islam is nothing more than the cult of a long dead, selfish little mad man named Muhammad ibn Abdullah.

    Qur’an, 4:34

    Men have authority over women because God has made the one superior to the other, and because they spend their wealth to maintain them. Good women are obedient. They guard their unseen parts because God has guarded them. As for those from whom you fear disobedience, admonish them and send them to beds apart and beat them. Then if they obey you, take no further action against them. Surely God is high, supreme.

    Here is an examination of how other translators render this controversial passage:

    Pickthall: “and scourge them”
    Yusuf Ali: “(And last) beat them (lightly)”
    Al-Hilali/Khan: “(and last) beat them (lightly, if it is useful)”
    Shakir: “and beat them”
    Sher Ali: “and chastise them”
    Khalifa: “then you may (as a last alternative) beat them”
    Arberry: “and beat them”
    Rodwell: “and scourge them”
    Sale: “and chastise them”
    Asad: “then beat them”

    The Qur’an permits men to marry up to four wives, and have sex with slave girls if they want to do so:

    004:003 “If ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly with the orphans, marry women of your choice, two or three or four; but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one, or (a captive) that your right hands possess, that will be more suitable, to prevent you from doing injustice”

    According to Muhammad and his Islam, a woman’s testimony is worth half that of a man’s:

    002:282 “Get two witnesses, out of your own men, and if there are not two men, then a man and two women, such as ye choose, for witnesses, so that if one of them errs, the other can remind her”

    Hadith, Sunan Abu-Dawud, Book 11, Number 2142:

    Narrated Umar ibn al-Khattab:
    The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: A man will not be asked as to why he beat his wife.

    Hadith, Sahih Bukhari, Vol. 1, Book 6, No. 301:

    Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri:
    Once Allah’s Apostle went out to the Musalla (to offer the prayer) o ‘Id-al-Adha or Al-Fitr prayer. Then he passed by the women and said, “O women! Give alms, as I have seen that the majority of the dwellers of Hell-fire were you (women).” They asked, “Why is it so, O Allah’s Apostle ?” He replied, “You curse frequently and are ungrateful to your husbands. I have not seen anyone more deficient in intelligence and religion than you. A cautious sensible man could be led astray by some of you.” The women asked, “O Allah’s Apostle! What is deficient in our intelligence and religion?” He said, “Is not the evidence of two women equal to the witness of one man?” They replied in the affirmative. He said, “This is the deficiency in her intelligence. Isn’t it true that a woman can neither pray nor fast during her menses?” The women replied in the affirmative. He said, “This is the deficiency in her religion.”

    The Qur’an compares women to a field (tilth) that a man is free to use when, and as he chooses:

    002.223
    Your wives are as a tilth unto you; so approach your tilth when or how ye will; but do some good act for your souls beforehand; and fear Allah. And know that ye are to meet Him (in the Hereafter), and give (these) good tidings to those who believe.

    The Qur’an allows men to marry pre-pubescent girls, stipulating that Islamic divorce procedures shall apply to those who have not yet menstruated.

    065.004
    YUSUFALI: Such of your women as have passed the age of monthly courses, for them the prescribed period, if ye have any doubts, is three months, and for those who have no courses (it is the same): for those who carry (life within their wombs), their period is until they deliver their burdens: and for those who fear Allah, He will make their path easy.

    PICKTHAL: And for such of your women as despair of menstruation, if ye doubt, their period (of waiting) shall be three months, along with those who have it not. And for those with child, their period shall be till they bring forth their burden. And whosoever keepeth his duty to Allah, He maketh his course easy for him.

    SHAKIR: And (as for) those of your women who have despaired of menstruation, if you have a doubt, their prescribed time shall be three months, and of those too who have not had their courses; and (as for) the pregnant women, their prescribed time is that they lay down their burden; and whoever is careful of (his duty to) Allah He will make easy for him his affair.

    Muhammad the fictitious prophet of Islam was a deranged con man who has betrayed women. Mythical Muhammad has betrayed all of mankind, in fact. Here is some more of what Muhammad is said to have said and did:

    Hadith, Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 54, Number 460:

    Narrated Abu Huraira:
    Allah’s Apostle said, “If a husband calls his wife to his bed (i.e. to have sexual relation) and she refuses and causes him to sleep in anger, the angels will curse her till morning.”

    Hadith, Sahih Muslim, Book 008, Number 3371:

    Abu Sirma said to Abu Sa’id al Khadri (Allah he pleased with him): 0 Abu Sa’id, did you hear Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) mentioning al-‘azl? He said: Yes, and added: We went out with Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) on the expedition to the Bi’l-Mustaliq and took captive some excellent Arab women; and we desired them, for we were suffering from the absence of our wives, (but at the same time) we also desired ransom for them. So we decided to have sexual intercourse with them but by observing ‘azl (Withdrawing the male sexual organ before emission of semen to avoid-conception). But we said: We are doing an act whereas Allah’s Messenger is amongst us; why not ask him? So we asked Allah’s Mes- senger (may peace be upon him), and he said: It does not matter if you do not do it, for every soul that is to be born up to the Day of Resurrection will be born.

    “By him in Whose Hand lies my life, a woman can not carry out the right of her Lord, till she carries out the right of her husband. And if he asks her to surrender herself [to him for sexual intercourse] she should not refuse him even if she is on a camel’s saddle.” — Ibn Majah 1854

    http://www.faithfreedom.org/

    • Jan Fourowls says

      Jul 21, 2014 at 4:57 am

      My warm wishes and Christian prayers with you Saleem Smith! You are very brave. (I’ve also commented above in this thread.)

      Thank you also for the excellent compilation of so many of the horrific passages of misogyny in Islamic unholy “scriptures.” I’ve saved it as a future reference if that’s okay!

    • No Fear says

      Jul 21, 2014 at 5:38 am

      Good Post Saleem Smith.

    • Angemon says

      Jul 21, 2014 at 7:24 am

      Saleem Smith posted:

      “Should Women Respect Muhammad and His Islam?

      Muslims love to claim that Islam has granted women equal rights. Sadly, this is not true. The Qur’an states several times that women are to be granted less rights then those enjoyed by men.”

      It’s kinda sad to see women actually claiming that muhammad, the child-rapist, is a “women’s rights champion”:

    • Jay Boo says

      Jul 21, 2014 at 8:37 am

      Saleem Smith proves once again, that Islam is not really a religion.
      Islam is merely an — excuse.

  10. Saleem Smith says

    Jul 21, 2014 at 12:04 am

    Sharia for the UK!

    Sharia law for ALL of planet earth!

    Muslims opposed to the laws of Sharia (laws extracted from the koran, hadith and mohammeds sira) are disobedient heretics deserving of death according to Islamic theology.

    http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Main_Page

  11. pumbar says

    Jul 21, 2014 at 1:36 am

    Good that she has a fellow English speaking companion to tell her whether her bomb looks big in that burqa.

    • Mirren10 says

      Jul 21, 2014 at 11:24 am

      Nice one, pumbar ! 🙂

    • Oliver says

      Jul 21, 2014 at 11:45 am

      The woman who tweeted–said her husband is Swedish. Perhaps he doesn’t speak English.

      Looking at the tweet–neither does she. So perhpas they have the ideal marriage-neither nows what the other is saying.

      May they both be blown up, along with their bretheren jihadists. And soon.

      • pumbar says

        Jul 21, 2014 at 8:37 pm

        No, he does speak English. You can see their video on Youtube. She takes the AK47 out with her when she goes shopping. It’s all a bit surreal. She is black and the husband is middle eastern.

        Cheers Jan! 🙂

        • Oliver says

          Jul 22, 2014 at 11:02 pm

          RE: Takes her AK 47 out with her–is that in Syria or Iraq or in Britain- before she left?

          If Britain, is it not illegal to have weapons? Or is that not for Muslims, jsut law abiding citizens?

        • pumbar says

          Jul 23, 2014 at 1:38 am

          Syria, the muslims aren’t allowed to carry AK47s in Britain yet (tough the EU is probably mulling it over).

  12. tpellow says

    Jul 21, 2014 at 4:08 am

    BBC avoids words ‘Muslim’ and ‘Islamic jihadist,’ and puts in word, ‘Australian’ instead!-

    “Australia teenager behind Iraq blast”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-28397536

    • dumbledoresarmy says

      Jul 22, 2014 at 7:13 am

      I’m looking on the bright side of that one.

      **He’s gone, he’s dead, and therefore he is NOT coming back**.

      One less jihadist to worry about.

  13. General Pershing says

    Jul 21, 2014 at 4:20 am

    “She is married to Isis fighter Abdur Rahman, from Sweden.”

    Please – we all know he´s not FROM Sweden. He just holds a passport from the least controlled passport-authority in the world and lives on welfare I pay for and is backed by all the lefties in Swedistan.

  14. Tommo says

    Jul 21, 2014 at 5:34 am

    ‘British authorities know that the vast majority of Muslims in Britain have no interest in jihad violence…..’

    No, I didn’t know. I also don’t know why you have to keep telling us how this ‘vast majority’ are peaceful and want the same as us. Well if that’s all they want couldn’t they find that in their own country???

  15. Edward Cline says

    Jul 21, 2014 at 6:03 am

    “A growing group of British women have moved to Syria to raise children under the radical Isis regime.” Why call these creatures “British women.” Aside from a little pamphlet called a “passport” or welfare records, they’re not “British.” They’re aliens, the Borg, the Fifth Column of child-bearing invaders and squatters. Together with their husbands, they’re all part of a Brotherhood strategy to conquer Western countries with reproduction. They don’t assimilate into the larger culture, and refuse to. I could say the same thing about “German women,” “Dutch women,” “Swedish women,” and so on. They’re there to smother the host culture until it dies or surrenders and becomes Islamic.

    • Jay Boo says

      Jul 21, 2014 at 8:47 am

      Maybe this is why Islamic law lets the Muslim daddy keep the kids.
      Maybe if Western governments would all ban sharia law and the UN would do the same it might limit the Muslim daddy’s influence over their Muslim wives and from dragging the kids away.

  16. duh_swami says

    Jul 21, 2014 at 6:30 am

    If you love sharia, you should move to a country that fully implements it. Why stay where you are unhappy, when Paradise is just a plane trip away?

    • Charli Main says

      Jul 21, 2014 at 9:25 am

      But—but—but these Muslim paradises don´t hand out FREE houses, FREE health care, FREE education in the Mosque/ Madrassa of your choice and best of all bags full of FREE money and FREE child benefits for breeding.————-

  17. tpellow says

    Jul 21, 2014 at 7:14 am

    “Growing number of UK Muslimas moving to Islamic State to raise children”

    -The inevitable consequence of decades of U.K’s political class (inc Labour, Tory and Lib Dem political parties, plus much of MSM) and their campaigning for mass immigration into U.K from Islamic countries. And their campaigning continues.

    • el-cid says

      Jul 21, 2014 at 9:44 am

      And, tolerance and support for the message of radical Islamic preachers and leaders,

      And, intolerance for any whistle blowers, e.g. Tommy Robinson,

      And, suppression of free speech, e.g. Robert and Pamela,

      And, suppression of any rational voice among those that self-identify as Muslims.

      Any leftist, trendy, European would want to embrace the radical ideology. From brownshirts to burkas in 75 years. Lederhosen, so 1930’s. Down with the Jews! Let’s teach our children to strap on bombs!

  18. les says

    Jul 21, 2014 at 7:44 am

    Who ever heard of Allah? before Mohammad says he existed? He made him up to back up his controversial lies and opinion changes in his Qu’ran book! He wouldn’t have gotten followers in his own capacity but said a greater god says thus and so.. The Koran is a book of hate and ideology against the Jew and the Western world led by Satan. Even Mohammad admitted he added scripture to the Koran given him by Satan! [later dismissing it] What rewards for killing those that aren’t Islam? Virgins and sumptuous meals? We have them Now on earth, whereas the One true God of the JudaoChristians Bible offers heaven as our eternal home and blessings for eternity! Allah will end up in the lake of fire and brimstone if he does exist, as Jesus will be the judge at the last day and Satan and fallen angels, demons and haters of the Jew will burn forever! Its a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the ‘Living God’! Chose wisely– no second chance after your last breath!

  19. Jay Boo says

    Jul 21, 2014 at 10:46 am

    “round-the-clock strategic bombing from the air until the people either leave the area, leave Islam or die like flies.”
    ——————-

    Who are ‘the people ‘ you are referring to.
    Sounds like a genocide policy against civilians.

    Fighting fire with fire — willful ignorance challenged with the power of an even greater willful ignorance always ends with needless civilian casualties.

    • Oliver says

      Jul 21, 2014 at 1:35 pm

      A few years ago, some BBC clown, I mean commentator, complained about this to Prime Minister Bibi of israel, to which Bibi replied ” don’t go there”. The BBC clown did, and Bibi spoke about the British ( and I beleive, Americans) bombing Dresden into ruins.

      And that was carpet bombing, not strategic bombing.

      The Muslims use children and women as human shields, and if they are stupid enough to allow this, they should, in my opinion, be rmeoved from the gene pool.

      Besides, other then roadside bombs; homicide bombings; bombing vests, what have these savages given the world in the last 400+ years?

  20. Jay Boo says

    Jul 21, 2014 at 10:51 am

    Imagine a man claiming to be a prophet (without an army) saying what Muhammad said.
    He would be mocked out of Mecca all the way to Medina where Muhammad’s thieving caravan raiders started a pirate army.

  21. Dt says

    Jul 21, 2014 at 11:07 am

    I hope they all leave. Every one of them. I don’t have anything against any person but if people want to live and raise their children in a world where violence and hatred is normal, then good…move away. Tell me where to send my contribution to their ticket home!

    One final thought. Throughout history when people have become part of a group or society where violence and hatred run rampant it is always just a matter of time before that person becomes the focus of violence. Mad dogs kill mad dogs.

  22. Mirren10 says

    Jul 21, 2014 at 11:34 am

    @ Jay Boo.

    ”Myxlplik
    I think you made your point the first time.
    This second post seems to be grasping needlessly.
    Why no give it a rest?”

    Myxlplik has been posting here a damn sight longer than you have, and is a staunch anti-Jihadist.

    His second post is equally as to the point, if not more so than his first.

    Why don’t **you** give it a rest, and stop with the snide remarks ?

    • Jay Boo says

      Jul 22, 2014 at 12:38 am

      Mirren10
      You imply that I am questioning whether or not Myxlplik is a ‘staunch anti-Jihadist.’
      If you had posted this concern at top it would have been obvious to all that was never my intention which I am sure you clearly realize considering what you did post.

      Why did you not make this comment up top where it could be seen in reference to why I posted it instead of sneaking in way down here?

      You might wish to stop playing blob politics

      • Mirren10 says

        Jul 22, 2014 at 6:18 am

        Because, you self-righteous little pipsqeak, there was no reply button under your post.

        ‘Ivan Bogdanov’ is no doubt a species of troll, but he/she got you bang to rights.

        You came here 12 months ago, saying you didn’t know much about islam, but wanted to learn. Then you proceeded to smear several long-time, respected commenters.

        Voegelinian has also noted you said “islam is not 100% bad”, and then proceeded to ignore his questions on that point.

        You also tried to use your smear tactics on the hijab thread, accusing me of being sneaky, cowardly, and coy, and tried to pretend our dispute was over
        something else. Now I find you on another thread, trying to pretend *my* post was written by some white supremacist, called ‘whitehomeland’, whom I have never heard of, but whom you, presumably, know all about.

        And, as I noted first, you are also trying to insinuate my reply to your post to myxlplik was deliberately placed further down the thread, although what motive I would have for doing this exists only in your mind.

        Quite frankly, Jay Boo, I find you tendentious, self-righteous, and lacking comprehension skills.

        I don’t know how old you are, but you come across, to me, as a bumptious teenage know it all. Grow up, and stop trying to teach your granny how to suck eggs.

        • Jay Boo says

          Jul 22, 2014 at 8:01 am

          An experienced commenter such as yourself suddenly does not know how to use the @ sign?
          Yeah ok

          You quote troll Ivan as absolute truth (kinda scraping the bottom of the barrel)
          Ivan said
          “I came here 12 months ago, saying you didn’t know much about islam, but wanted to learn”

          I did not come to Jihad Watch to specifically to (learn or to socialize) nor would I make a point to share that with Ivan
          It is obviously gutter talk which quite frankly sounds a lot like your showing off being a long time commenter (as if that makes your comments carry more weight)
          It does not excuse you to write whatever you wish without being questioned.
          By now you have probably due noted my reference to your borderline ‘whitehomeland’ style comment as if to instigate further down the ebonics trail daring anyone to challenge.
          Expect to be challenged on such crass stupidity.

          “Voegelinian has also noted you said “islam is not 100% bad”, and then proceeded to ignore his questions on that point.”

          I could write a whole chapter on why Voegelinian’s comments don’t always deserve a reply but all you have to do is look at the exchange I had a few days ago to see why this is so, which incidentally is probably why you brought up Voegelinian in the first place — to instigate that drama back to life.

        • Jay Boo says

          Jul 22, 2014 at 8:10 am

          “. Now I find you on another thread, trying to pretend *my* post was written by some white supremacist, called ‘whitehomeland’, whom I have never heard of, but whom you, presumably, know all about.”

          Not pretending
          That as I am sure you are well aware was an (obvious sarcasm)
          in reference to commenter whitehomeland’

        • Jay Boo says

          Jul 22, 2014 at 8:39 am

          Myxlplik said —
          “You can see a direct linguistic cultural affiliation to Afro-American social justice theology by way of the Ebonics used in the Twitter message.

          ie how Senator Ellison came to know Islam, in this particular case I think the linguistics is key, in understanding how a “liberal woman” goes to college and comes out a jihadist, or a Senator interested in “social justice” goes to college and comes out a jihadist, err I mean Muslim. Seems all mixed up how liberals can become 1000x more conservative than Republicans. “Social Justice”.

          BUT Myxlplik received no reply
          So Myxlplik commented on his own comment as if to add something new
          instead Myxlplik said —-
          “In other words, Social Justice morphs into anything which is perceived as against “White Culture”, the oppressor, so since stoning women to death is against what “Whitey” believes in, it is hip and you join the Caliphate to fuck over the “man”. This logic also comes from the generation which made the Scion a cool car, and economically viable to mass produce.”

          How desperate is that to throw a whole race of people under the bus just for the cheap thrill of receiving a reply

          Shortly thereafter Mirren10 decided to crawl in the same gutter to swim in the same swill and Mirren10 said—

          “Ebonics is really the study of the rules applied to turn English into some uneducated sounding pseudo-language whose purpose is for the most part to insult and denigrate “Whitey.” (from Urban Dictionary).

          Yes, it would not in the least surprise me to find this retarded ‘convert’ and her ‘friends’ is either black, or is white and the child’s sperm donor is black. The child looks mixed race to me.

          Well, the more the merrier ! The only downside will be if that moronic moral cretin, May, lets them back in. (if they survive !)”

          http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/07/growing-number-of-uk-muslimas-moving-to-islamic-state-to-raise-children/comment-page-1#comment-1090360

        • Jay Boo says

          Jul 22, 2014 at 10:16 am

          Mirren10
          No need to keep attempting to lecture me as teacher to student.
          It is getting a bit old already.

          BTW don’t forget to remind the readers yet again that
          Mirren10 is a long time commenter at Jihad Watch.

        • Jay Boo says

          Jul 22, 2014 at 10:18 am

          Mirren10
          Same goes for your new found troll friend Ivan

        • voegelinian says

          Jul 22, 2014 at 2:10 pm

          Jay Boo is one of those JWers who mostly talks tough against Islam, but here and there reveals his soft nougaty chew center. There seem to be two kinds of Counter-Jihad softness: one kind reflects the non-Muslim Westerner who still retains a relatively high degree of PC MC in his mind and heart; the other kind is more of a quasi-dhimmitude due to some cultural/familial background of the JWer in question — perhaps they are ex-Muslim and their family is still Muslim; or perhaps they or their parents were a non-Muslim minority in a Muslim society somewhere in the Dar-al-Islam (you know, that utter fiction that doesn’t exist anywhere on Earth, as Philip Jihadski and Angemon would have us believe — speaking of the two kinds of JW Softy). Jay Boo strikes me as the latter of the two kinds, and his ESLish English in his latest posts could be further evidence of that.

        • Angemon says

          Jul 22, 2014 at 3:54 pm

          voegelinian posted:

          “There seem to be two kinds of Counter-Jihad softness: one kind reflects the non-Muslim Westerner who still retains a relatively high degree of PC MC in his mind and heart; the other kind is more of a quasi-dhimmitude due to some cultural/familial background of the JWer in question — perhaps they are ex-Muslim and their family is still Muslim; or perhaps they or their parents were a non-Muslim minority in a Muslim society somewhere in the Dar-al-Islam (you know, that utter fiction that doesn’t exist anywhere on Earth, as Philip Jihadski and Angemon would have us believe — speaking of the two kinds of JW Softy).”

          And once again voegelinian goes out of his way to not only mischaracterize me and PJ but also be openly hostile toward us (in this case, attempting to make assertions regarding our personal lives, probably using his magical mind-reading abilities). It’s astonishing the lengths of attempted character assassination he goes against two users who called him out on his “total deportation” theory and made questions he refused to answer. By now, if someone were to tell me now that he’s a leftist/muslim mole i’d believe it.

          What both me and PJ pointed out to him is that dar-al-islam is a concept referring to any place where muslims can safely practice their faith – for example, the USA, however, there’s no country called “dar-al-islam”, which was where voeg wanted to “deport” all muslims in the US to, including native converts. Now, does disagreeing with his “total deportation” theory means that eithe me or PJ have some soft spot for islam? Of course not. He was told why he is wrong about it and he still prances around acting like reason is on his side, taking pot shots at us wherever he can, even if it’s totally uncalled for and unrelated to the matter at hand, like here, where he even makes idiotic guesses regarding our personal lives.

          Voeg, did you graduated in Pointing Out Non-Existing Mistakes and Hyperbolizing them in an Adolescent Way with a minor in Holding Grudges Like a Muslim? You got called on your “total deportation” theory and dar-al-islam, and you failed to deliver. The problem is that you’re obsessed with the ridiculous notion that you’re the only one here who “gets it”, and you won’t let facts get in the way of your line of thought. In fact, the more someone argues and uses facts to explain why you’re wrong, the more you are convinced that whatever it is that you believe is is right and only you are smart enough to see that beyond the pilling up of facts and evidence that proves you wrong.

          Not everyone here agree with what you say, and it’s not because of how you say it, as you seem to believe, it’s because of what you say, so the sooner you give up on the dream of having everyone here nodding their heads and agreeing with whatever you say, the better for you. One can be against islam and the islamization of the west more than you are and still disagree with your asinine “total deportation” suggestion. It doesn’t mean that someone is a “softie” or has a PC MC mentality, it just means that your idea sucks ass.
          Oh, wait, i’m trying to talk sense into voeg as if he operates in a logical fashion and actually takes in input from other people. What a waste of time and resources :/

  23. Mirren10 says

    Jul 21, 2014 at 11:40 am

    A good editorial, marred by the usual gratuitous slap at Israel.

    Well, it is the leftard Independent after all. It’s uncool to be a raving anti-Semite, but dress up your lies and hatred in opposition to ‘Zionism’, and support for the ‘pooor palestinians’, and then anti-Semitism has a new, pretty dress.

    • Mirren10 says

      Jul 21, 2014 at 11:42 am

      That was in response to ‘Michael’.

  24. Rick Spencer says

    Jul 21, 2014 at 1:08 pm

    Let’s hope and pray that ALL the non-secular Muslims in the UK and Europe go to that Sharia paradise to serve their Allah and never return! How wonderful would that be for them and for us!

    • Edward Cline says

      Jul 21, 2014 at 1:15 pm

      I don’t understand why all the other Muslim women are delaying their departure. The sooner their offspring get to Syria and Gaza and Afghanistan or wherever bullets are flying, the sooner their boys will get their 72 virgins and the girls to get their 72 pajama boys or geeks. No, wait. I think it’s 72 raisins for the boys, and 72 Ken Dolls for the girls.

      • Oliver says

        Jul 21, 2014 at 1:41 pm

        Mr. Cline,

        I beleive that you aresomewhat mistaken, as to the girls/women. In Islam, females are worth (I have seen both, as well as other, figures) 1/4 to 1/2 of a male.

        Therefore, a woman (or girl) would get 18 to 36 males–studs, or if a young pre-pubiscent girl, (although they do get married at 8 and 9 and probably do start having sex then) the Ken dolls.

        That is my view. (Or, perhaps they get rams or some bulls)–you know, of course about the rams who committed suicide after hearing a Frank Sinartra tape.

        He sang, “There’ll Never be another You” (ewe –pronounced the same as you)).

  25. Myxlplik says

    Jul 21, 2014 at 4:55 pm

    I don’t think military intervention against ISIS is prudent at the moment, because while the author of the article clearly understands that ISIS is bad and must be opposed, they are too unimaginative to link what is happening in Gaza ideologically with ISIS, who is no less verbal about the Islamic wellspring of their equally genocidal aspirations.

    Clearly he is I’ll equipped to ponder the question of combating ISIS, if he is going to link it morally with the actions of Israel in Gaza. I’d leave that to brighter minds to even ponder.

  26. Mirren10 says

    Jul 22, 2014 at 8:57 am

    @ Jay Boo.

    Oh, heaven grant me patience.

    Look at my 11.34 post on the 21st again. It *clearly* says ** @ Jay Boo**.

    Like I said, your reading comprehension skills leave a lot to be desired.

    As for the rest of your self-righteous drivel, I don’t have the time or inclination to answer it at the moment, but I probably will, later, even though it will clearly be a waste of time, since you can’t properly comprehend what you read.

    However, I’n not about to let a jumped up little twat like you get away with smearing me on these threads, and on this site.
    By the way, your posts still don’t have a reply button.

    • Jay Boo says

      Jul 22, 2014 at 10:31 am

      You might wish to check your own reading.
      No need to use @ when the reply button is available
      I was obviously not referring to your 11.34 post having the @ sign but your feeble excuse “there was no reply button under your post.”
      This only proves my first point all the more.
      Out a here

      • Mirren10 says

        Jul 22, 2014 at 1:55 pm

        ”I was obviously not referring to your 11.34 post having the @ sign but your feeble excuse “there was no reply button under your post.”

        Just how obtuse are you ? Your last post does, indeed, have a reply button, but your others do not. So kindly do not attempt to make me out to be a liar. (Very leftard tactics, by the way).

        http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/07/growing-number-of-uk-muslimas-moving-to-islamic-state-to-raise-children/comment-page-1#comment-1090380

        It sometimes happens, for what reason I know not, that people post comments, and a reply button doesn’t show up. In that case, if one wishes to reply to a post, it is necessary to go to the end of the thread, and use the @ sign, to indicate whom one is replying to. Which is what I did.

        More:

        ”It is obviously gutter talk which quite frankly sounds a lot like your showing off being a long time commenter (as if that makes your comments carry more weight)
        It does not excuse you to write whatever you wish without being questioned.”

        *What* ‘gutter talk’ ? And, I have never at any time intimated that I think being a long time commenter either made my comments ‘carry more weight’, or that I think my length of time here should ‘excuse me to write whatever I wish without being questioned’.

        I have no objection whatsoever to being questioned, or disagreed with. What I object to is being **smeared**, which is what you are up to. If you disagreed with my comment, you should have said why, without resorting to this kind of typical leftard crap:

        ” Shortly thereafter Mirren10 decided to crawl in the same gutter to swim in the same swill and Mirren10 said—”

        I stand by what I said. Ebonics exists, and it is **often** used as a means of reverse racism towards white people.

        It is equally true that many converts to islam are black people, and they use this sort of retarded pseudo language; to deny this is to deny **fact**. Which leftards are *always* trying to do.

        More:

        ”Mirren10
        No need to keep attempting to lecture me as teacher to student.
        It is getting a bit old already”

        ”It is getting a bit old already” is hardly an argument. You clearly consider that anyone who takes exception to your condescending and snide sneers, is ”attempting to lecture you”.

        More:

        ”BTW don’t forget to remind the readers yet again that
        Mirren10 is a long time commenter at Jihad Watch”

        You’re the one who keeps banging on about that, not me.

        More:

        ”No need to use @ when the reply button is available
        I was obviously not referring to your 11.34 post having the @ sign but your feeble excuse “there was no reply button under your post.”
        This only proves my first point all the more”

        As I have already noted, above, and you can, yourself, check your own posts, in several of them there **is no reply button**. So you have no point, and you have proved nothing, except what I have already said, that your reading/comprehension skills are poor, and you are also a liar.

        Now, Jay Boo, I see no point in continuing this. I think you are immature, condescending, and full of your own self importance. You are also a deliberate liar.

        I have no wish to interact with you any further, since you are clearly incapable of rational argument, so ignore my posts, as I shall ignore yours. Unless of course, you carry on with your snide, sneering, remarks, devoid of argument, in which case I **will** call you on it.

        • Angemon says

          Jul 22, 2014 at 3:44 pm

          Mirren10 posted:

          “It sometimes happens, for what reason I know not, that people post comments, and a reply button doesn’t show up. In that case, if one wishes to reply to a post, it is necessary to go to the end of the thread, and use the @ sign, to indicate whom one is replying to. Which is what I did.”

          I think it happens after the 4th or 5th sequential “Reply”. Notice that comments stop niching to the right and simply fall in line. Person A posts something, person B replies using the “reply” button at the end of person’s A post, person C replies to person B using the “reply” button at the end of person’s B post, person D replies to person’s C using the “reply” button at the end of person’s C post and it stops having the “reply” option, give or take a reply. Your only choices are to either add a new post at the bottom or manually search for the last comment with a “Reply” option, which can get tedious if there are many replies. It’s not an issue if you’re subscribing to the topic, all emails you get with new comments have a “Reply” button. And that makes for weird situations: you can reply to someone and have your post appear in line before posts with earlier date and time.

  27. Bill says

    Jul 22, 2014 at 3:19 pm

    There are a couple of conclusions I have come to recently regarding Islam and Muslims:

    1. Islam is completely incompatible with western classic liberal Constitutional government and culture.

    2. Therefore Muslims must be denied access to the west and they must be defeated militarily where they exist as a government. The greatest example of the need to defeat Muslims militarily is in reference to the Israelis and the illogical, failed, deceptive, destructive and dhimmi and Chamberlainesque “Two State Solution.”

    3. It is impossible by mere human persuasion to defeat or thwart the powerful, compelling, motivating and extremely evil message of Islam.

    • Edward Cline says

      Jul 22, 2014 at 3:42 pm

      Agreed on all points. Any attempt to “reconcile” Islam and Western civilization is tantamount to introducing cancer into a healthy body.

    • voegelinian says

      Jul 22, 2014 at 8:08 pm

      Your #2 doesn’t necessarily follow from #1. A people could be incompatible with Western civilization, but still not be physically violent. In addition, unless that physical violence is a part of that people’s culture as a driving ideology mandating — and actually resulting in — warfare (in myriad styles) against all outsiders, our society still would not want to take the drastic measures implied in your #2. It’s the addition of the physical violence motivated and framed by a supremacist expansionist warfare against all outsiders that pushes this people over the edge into one unfit for assimilation with any other people — including themselves!

  28. Reality Check says

    Jul 24, 2014 at 6:41 am

    Honestly, the way Muslims use the financial resources of the West to bring up another generation of Muslims that hate the West is beyond depraved.

    Only a Muslim mind can make something like that make sense.

    And the West sees this and allows its own destruction in the long term for the fear of being called “racist” and “not nice”.

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