You remember reading about this in your high school history books, right? How Thomas Jefferson’s original draft of the Declaration of Independence stated, “Killing British people is worship that draws us closer to God.” And how American soldiers in the Revolution would say, “Whoever kills an Englishman goes to heaven.” And how the Founding Fathers said, “No British people will be allowed to stay in the United States of America.” And how the Revolutionaries used to boast of their imminent conquest and destruction of other world powers. Yes, the Hamas jihad against Israel is just like the American Revolution.
“Hamas leader: No peace under Israeli occupation,” by Jean Song, CBS News, July 28, 2014 (thanks to Maxwell):
Hamas leader Khaled Meshaal has said he’s not ready to recognize Israel as a Jewish state, saying that under Israeli occupation, Israel and a state of Palestine cannot coexist.
“When Israel practically commits itself to withdraw from Gaza completely and the West Bank without any settlements, and if we have Jerusalem as our capital and the return of the refugees is there, then we will reach peace,” Meshaal said through a translator in an exclusive interview with Charlie Rose, which will appear in full on PBS.
He compared the Hamas-Israel conflict to the American Revolution.
“Was it peaceful? Did you not kick the British out? So the nations, if they have the peaceful window to reach peace then they will better. Because we don’t like to kill our sons and daughters. But if you don’t have the peace then the resistance is legitimate. So the world has two choices: they need to help us peacefully reach [statehood] or we will expel this occupation from our land.”
Meshaal expressed his frustration with how the international community was responding to the conflict.
“Why do you call for security for Israel and why don’t you call for lifting the siege and stopping the occupation on the Palestinians? Why don’t you give the right to live for the Palestinians as the other nations? This is actually the last occupation in the world,” said Meshaal.
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has repeatedly insisted that the aim of his military’s current offensive is to cripple Hamas, which he accuses of deliberately “sacrificing” Palestinians as human shields.
Netanyahu said Sunday on “Face the Nation” that Israel would continue attacking Hamas and destroying the elaborate network of tunnels built by the Palestinian militants to smuggle goods in and out of the country and to try and get fighters onto Israeli soil to launch attacks.
Meshaal said Hamas has the conviction necessary to expel the Israelis from the West Bank and Gaza by force.
“I have the will,” he said, going on to explain what gives him and his fighters the will to become “martyrs” and die for their cause. “I cannot live under the occupation. Occupation is the worst thing that you can ever imagine. So every single Palestinians can die for the next generations to live in peace and freedom.”
But some question why Meshaal is not in Gaza, if in fact he is the voice of Hamas. Meshsaal, who lives in Doha, Qatar, said he was expelled.
“It is natural for me to be there but occupation doesn’t allow me to do so,” he said. “You have hundreds thousands of Palestinians in America, and they long to go back to Palestine. Although they are American citizens, Palestinians long for their home country. That’s why we insist on the return of the refugees for me and others to return.”
Chabuco says
Remember when George Washington raped a 9-year old girl? Yeah, me neither.
The Vilest Of Creatures says
You don’t remember that? I think it was right after he made a sex slave out of Patrick Henry’s wife. and just before he had all the surrendered British above the age of puberty beheaded at Yorktown. Then again it might have been about the time he had Betsy Ross decapitated for allegedly making fun of his standing up In the boat while crossing the Delaware.
Richie says
Muslims live in a world or Orwellian double speak, where war is peace, slavery is freedom, and death is life
Richie says
The Muslim ignorance of history is just draw dropping.
They have no concept or understanding of the causes of the American independence, if they did they would understand the right of a people to be free and to govern themselves. Plus I don’t recall the American continental army committing rape or decapitating their enemies as a form of entertainment
And please, Muslims and loony leftists can’t be allowed to aways frame the narrative unchallenged. NO ‘Muslim land’ is being occupied by non Muslims, since Muslims are the occupiers, having invaded Christian, Jewish, Hindu and Buddist lands. How about Muslims GTFO??
JoePk says
“The Muslim ignorance of history is just draw dropping.”
Zealots don’t care very much about reality. This one also seems to have trouble understanding the basics of human reproduction:
“So every single Palestinians can die for the next generations to live in peace and freedom.”
Diane Harvey says
Robert is our modern day Paul Revere, “The Muslims are coming. The Muslims are coming.”
Which has now become, “The Muslims are here. The Muslims are here.”
And we’re the worse off for it.
Arjay says
One career path of mine was my years working as a librarian/archivist/museum historian… and being a personal researcher for authors. Previously, I had worked in the sciences and social services.
Saw huge numbers of young people both working in social services and in the other jobs mentioned above. Heck, not just young people’ but adults as well.
They all bring a new meaning to that current “politically correct term”- the ever growing number of people that are “Low Information Americans.”
I am going to state what should be said… I would have to guess that huge numbers of Americans watching that CBS broadcast took what the Muzz-sewage said as gospel AND BELIEVED HIM that Jihad terror and the American Revolution is just like one another.
Scarier still… at LEAST THAT IS FROM the people WHO DO WATCH THE NEWS. Can you imagine those who don’t? What they think and how they align in this international conflict is probably even worse.
CogitoErgoSum says
Why is there any need to create a Palestinian state? The Islamic State now exists. Aren’t the so called “Palestinians” welcome there? Why don’t they make that place their country? The concept of countries demarcated by imaginary lines on a map is not taken seriously by Islam anyway. Who is this guy kidding? He’s full of baloney.
Howard Moss says
The Palestinians were never expelled, and the few Beduins that lived there had no concern for taking care of it, as Mark Twain observed when he visited:
http://classiclit.about.com/library/bl-etexts/mtwain/bl-mtwain-innocents-56.htm
“Renowned Jerusalem itself, the stateliest name in history, has lost all its ancient grandeur, and is become a pauper village; the riches of Solomon are no longer there to compel the admiration of visiting Oriental queens; the wonderful temple which was the pride and the glory of Israel, is gone, and the Ottoman crescent is lifted above the spot where, on that most memorable day in the annals of the world, they reared the Holy Cross. The noted Sea of Galilee, where Roman fleets once rode at anchor and the disciples of the Saviour sailed in their ships, was long ago deserted by the devotees of war and commerce, and its borders are a silent wilderness”
Wellington says
It is in the nature of Muslims to appropriate things. The Koran is a mishmash appropriation of the Bible. Islam claiming Abraham, Moses and Jesus were Muslim is another example of this (and let’s not forget Alexander the Great too). And look at all that the Muslims appropriated during the medieval period and called it their achievements when, in fact, much of what was achieved under medieval Islamic rule was done by Byzantine Christians or other non-Muslims. Let’s also not forget all those many contributions Muslims have made to America according to Barack Obama in his June 2009 Cairo speech (I’m still waitin’ for one to be named). So, it should come as no surprise that this Hamas spokesman would make the grotesque comparison that he did. It’s just one more kind of appropriation, courtesy of the Isalmic mindset, of Muslimthink.
Bamaguje says
“When Israel practically commits itself to withdraw from Gaza completely and the West Bank without any settlements, and if we have Jerusalem as our capital and the return of the refugees is there, then we will reach peace” – Khalid Meshaal.
Really? Has Hamas given up on the antisemitic genocidal objectives clearly stated in its charter, or is this another war-is-deceit Taqiyya?
Quotes from Hamas Charter:
“Israel will rise and will remain erect until Islam destroys it.”
“Israel, by virtue of its being Jewish and of having a Jewish population, defies Islam and the Muslims.”
“The Day of Judgment will not come about until Muslims fight Jews and kill them. Then, the Jews will hide behind rocks and trees, and the rocks and trees will cry out: ‘O Muslim, there is a Jew hiding behind me, come and kill him.’”
Palestinians already have a state (Jordan) when British mandated Palestine was partitioned between Jews and Arabs in 1922. They (Arabs) got the lion share (77%) back then, and they are not getting another state at Jewish expense.
Jews were barred from the Arab portion – Jordan. Arabs should similarly have been barred from the Jewish portion , which includes West bank & Gaza.
In essence, Palestinians are the occupiers of Jewish territory, as per the 1922 partition, which is the last internationally binding agreement on Palestine.
Despite what Palestinian propaganda and lamestream media would have us believe, West bank & Gaza were never formally alloted to Palestianians in any international agreement.
Judea, Samaria and East Jerusalem are Jewish ancestral homeland… where all Judaism’s holy sites are located.
If they refuse live peacefully with their Jewish hosts, the Palestinian occupiers should be kicked out of West bank & Gaza… the same way Jews were expelled from Arab countries.
gravenimage says
Thanks for posting that quote from Khalid Meshaal, Bamaguje. This just shows what appalling liars Hamas are.
gerard says
“No peace under Israeli occupation”
Ah! So that’s why there’s no peace in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Sudan, Nigeria, and the other 56 Islamic states!
Those Israelis sure do get around!
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Richie says
Remember, when Muslims steal, rape and kill, they are never to blame…
bettina says
I’m tired of hearing that a cease-fire is a viable solution. Why a cease-fire, when Israel needs total surrender? Yeah, that’s right, complete with white flags and demilitarization. Isn’t that how wars are won? What warring nations have, in the past, accepted anything less than surrender — that’s the permanent solution. What the hell does “viable” mean, anyway?!
gerard says
WW1 ended with Armistice, ceasefire. The way was left open for WW2…
F. MacKenzie says
Washington’s orders for the Sullivan Expedition in the American Revolutionary War, May 31, 1779:
“The immediate objects are the total destruction and devastation of their settlements, and the capture of as many prisoners of every age and sex as possible. It will be essential to ruin their crops now in the ground and prevent their planting more.
I would recommend, that some post in the center of the Indian Country, should be occupied with all expedition, with a sufficient quantity of provisions whence parties should be detached to lay waste all the settlements around, with instructions to do it in the most effectual manner, that the country may not be merely overrun, but destroyed.
But you will not by any means listen to any overture of peace before the total ruinment of their settlements is effected. Our future security will be in their inability to injure us and in the terror with which the severity of the chastisement they receive will inspire them.”
These orders were carried out. Washington and other founding fathers had no compunctions about using mass killings and terror in order to further their revolution.
duh_swami says
My American ancestors fought in the Rev war, the 1812 war the Civil War. I doubt any of them thought they would go to heaven for killing the enemy. They were too busy trying to stay alive for that.
duh_swami says
Your article does not say who lived in the settlements Washington wanted to destroy…
gerard says
Washington was a realist. I think Netanyahu is a realist too but he is hampered on every side. Nevertheless Bibi seems to be determined to get the job done as far as possible.
Wellington says
What you don’t get, MacKenzie, among other things, is that war should be waged with totality so that it can be ended sooner rather than later. But the difference between a nation led by a Washington or a Truman, as opposed to a nation led by Nazis or Hamas, is that if the former are victorious they will be gracious to the defeated. By contrast, if the latter, then horrible results, including mass murder, will ensue.
Just look at the enlightened administration of Japan under MacArthur from 1945 to 1951 for comfirmation here. Imagine if the Japanese had won WWII and had administered America. See the difference? No, I bet you don’t because you cannot distinguish between decent societies who wage war, ugly as it sometimes is respecting the depths they have to descend to in order to prevail, from indecent societies, steeped in anti-civilization, who engage in martial conflict and its aftermath with a never-ending barbaric frame of mind. Oh yeah, your pathetic tu quoque reasoning is shown most decidely by your ignorant post.
You know, you should wise up. But I suspect you never will.
F. MacKenzie says
Whatever are ranting on about?
All I pointed out was that Washington and other revolutionaries had no problem using mass killings and terror to get what they wanted. The Iroquois neither were, nor are now, some cartoon bad guys. They were, and remain, a civilization of human beings. What Washington did to them was in no way kind.
I never said anything about what society is decent or indecent. Get a grip.
gravenimage says
F. MacKenzie is a tool. Did the Americans slaughter all the remaining loyalists after the war was over? Did they vow to go on to overrun London and enslave every Englishman?
Of course not. We were fighting for proper representation—as any Englishman deserved—and when we were denied that, for our freedom.
Once we had achieved our independence, we sought—and achieved—real peace with the English. Save for a brief clash in 1812, that relationship has held strong ever since.
The Hamas charter calls for *the destruction of Israel*—and of the Jews. If you believe this is similar to the American fight for freedom then you are a fool—And if you do not, then you are a propagandist for genocide. *Ugh*.
bernie says
Don’t forget, the American revolutionaries were also fighting against unfair taxation on the part of the British government, as shown by the Boston Tea Party, in which tons of bags of over-taxed tea were dumped into Boston Harbor?
What is the jizyah, after all, but an unfair tax?
It’s true that some of the founding fathers and other men of the Enlightenment kept black slaves and believed in racial segregation, but these were aberrations which were later corrected.
Mazo says
Notice how cravenmirage deliberately ignores that the Sullivan expedition was aimed against Native Americans, and what the United States continued to do to Native Americans for over a century after gaining independence (massacring them , depriving them of their land, denying them citizenship, eradicating their culture), and then proceeded to do the same to Hawaii and then to the Moro people.
Rick Fanning says
I see nothing about killings. What are you talking about? The native nations that allied themselves with the British had no problem killing women and children in the settlements they attacked. They were the mass murderers. Please read your history before you post these.
flakmusic says
You are a lying turd, Mazo. I wouldn’t be surprised if you were some kind of muhammedan…
The expedition was not aimed against Native Americans generally, but specifically against the Iroquois fighters who betrayed the Patriots, ambushed and tortured to death women and children of the unarmed settlers. It was that terrible massacre that prompted Sullivans expedition and its political consequences. No Iroquois children and women suffered the fate even remotely comparable to that of the whites.
You hate America, Mazo. Good for America!
Mazo says
Betray wha? I didn’t know that the native inhabitants of America owed alleigance to colonialist settlers encroaching on their land.