This is blisteringly ridiculous, but is already getting (predictably enough) wide play in the mainstream media. What would it take for you to commit an act of jihad mass murder? Could an FBI agent convince you by any combination of love or money to do such a thing? “In some cases the FBI may have created terrorists out of law-abiding individuals by suggesting the idea of taking terrorist action or encouraging the target to act.” Ridiculous. A law-abiding individual cannot be coaxed to commit jihad mass murder. One would have to be already sympathetic to the cause, and at very least eager to act. These jihadis in every case were given numerous opportunities to say no and opt out of the jihad plot. They did not. Thus they, not the FBI, bear responsibility for their actions.
Consider this also: I oppose jihad terror and Islamic supremacism. Leftists and Islamic supremacists constantly propagate the lie that this means that I, and others like me, hate Muslims and want to see them harmed. Accordingly, every now and again I get an email from a Leftist or Islamic supremacist who thinks he is cleverer than he is, inviting me to applaud, support, or join him in doing harm to Muslims. I turn these messages over to the FBI and that is the end of the matter, because in reality I stand for the equality of rights of all people before the law, and do not support any vigilante action or harming of any innocent Muslim (or any innocent person). I am, in other words, not able to be entrapped. Why are so many Muslims, by contrast, susceptible to the blandishments of these FBI agents who are supposedly cajoling them to commit jihad violence?
“FBI pushed Muslims to plot terrorist attacks: HRW,” AFP, July 22, 2014 (thanks to all who sent this in):
WASHINGTON: The FBI encouraged and sometimes even paid Muslims to commit terrorist acts during numerous sting operations after the 9/11 attacks, a human rights group said in a report published on Monday.
“Far from protecting Americans, including American Muslims, from the threat of terrorism, the policies documented in this report have diverted law enforcement from pursuing real threats,” said the report by Human Rights Watch.
Aided by Columbia University Law School’s Human Rights Institute, Human Rights Watch examined 27 cases from investigation through trial, interviewing 215 people, including those charged or convicted in terrorism cases, their relatives, defence lawyers, prosecutors and judges.
“In some cases the FBI may have created terrorists out of law-abiding individuals by suggesting the idea of taking terrorist action or encouraging the target to act,” the report said.
In the cases reviewed, half the convictions resulted from a sting operation, and in 30 percent of those cases the undercover agent played an active role in the plot.
“Americans have been told that their government is keeping them safe by preventing and prosecuting terrorism inside the US,” said Andrea Prasow, the rights group’s deputy Washington director.
“But take a closer look and you realize that many of these people would never have committed a crime if not for law enforcement encouraging, pressuring and sometimes paying them to commit terrorist acts.” The report cites the case of four Muslim converts from Newburgh, New York who were accused of planning to blow up synagogues and attack a US military base. — AFP
Transmaster says
An old story, before it was jihadists it was communists. The FBI has put up with this sort of thing for at least 70 years the only difference is the ability to get their word out. This sort of thing was always published in various radical newspapers which no longer are published so these groups just moved onto the internet and can whine and moan to their hearts desires.
Liza Jones says
What a crock! The same mentality that rapes a woman and then blames her revealing clothing for causing it . I can’t believe anyone would take this report seriously, but there are conspiracy nuts out there. . .
Mayla says
I would like to find an innocent Muslim. Im sorry. Usually i don’t generalize but I haven’t seen or met one. Their crimes are gruesome. And anybody that entices them to be this way can get their cooperation very easily.
el-cid says
Robert, I thought that the FBI was purged of all knowledge of Islamic goals and tactics, and were instructed to stand down. Their failure to prevent the Boston Marathon bombers is proof.
I guess that’s not enough for those who think “human rights” means that we must aid and provide cover for fascists that want to slit our throats and blow up synagogues. Sounds like those rogue FBI agents weren’t toeing the line, eh?
mariam rove says
So if the FBI approached me on a sting operation that if I carry a kilo of cocaine in exchange for $100K would I do it? What a bunch if un American idiots they are. M
Mirren10 says
This garbage quintessentialy reveals the utter moral vacuum in which so many people operate, and not just the left, although they are, to be sure, the most obvious examples of it.
The meme is, that no-one is actually responsible for anything they do. They must all be exulcapted, because they are deprived, or victims of racism, or their mummy
didn’t love them enough, or maybe she loved them too
much; yada, yada, infinitum. I’m sure there are many othe
r nauseating, meretricious excuses.
How long are people with a brain, and a moral compass, going to put up with this meretricious crap ?
“Oh, yes, officer, I only agreed to blow up thousands of innocent people because you made me an offer I couldn’ t refuse.”” Vomit.
gravenimage says
Human Rights Watch claims FBI “created terrorists out of law-abiding individuals”
This is blisteringly ridiculous, but is already getting (predictably enough) wide play in the mainstream media. What would it take for you to commit an act of jihad mass murder? Could an FBI agent convince you by any combination of love or money to do such a thing?
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*Of course not*. “Entrapment” is only an issue—sometimes a rather overstated one, in any case—if it is something that an average person could be expected to want.
A cheap big-screen TV? Most people want that, even if they wouldn’t actually buy one off the back of a truck parked on an alley off Times Square. An offer of sex? Many reasonable people would be amenable to such an offer, even if they wouldn’t look for it out on the street. Even an offer of drugs—though they are illegal—might fall into this category.
But who here would want to commit mass murder of innocent people—even if they thought that they could get away with it and that someone else would fund it?
How many Westerners would *ever* want such a thing? Only a handful of sociopaths—and, of course, *pious Muslims*.
gravenimage says
I should, of course, have said “how many in the West”, not “how many Westerners”. Pious Muslims *are not* Westerners, even if they are using to West as a base from which to wage violent Jihad.
Beagle says
Indeed. Absent a predisposition to commit mass murder, most people would report the undercover agent to the police.
gravenimage says
Very true, Beagle.
Bezelel says
Entrapment as a defense may have some merit against the Vice Squad. That is where the compulsive behavior is triggered by enticement. So are they admitting that they are predisposed to mass murder?
gerard says
“He, she, they made me do it”!
Classic shift of blame.