His call has thus far met largely with scoffing outside of his own domains, and perhaps quietly inside them as well. It will only gain traction if he is able to make his state a viable one — a possibility that analysts and Muslim leaders are dismissing today, saying that a state born in terrorism could never become viable. But that is nonsense, of course. The international community is avid to give the “Palestinians” a state, paying no heed to the fact that their movement was born in terrorism and continues in terrorism.
“Islamic State’s Baghdadi orders Muslims to ‘obey’ him,” AFP, July 5, 2014 (thanks to John):
Baghdad (AFP) – The leader of the Islamic State jihadist group, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, purportedly ordered all Muslims to obey him in a video released Saturday on social media.
The hitherto elusive Baghdadi, who on June 29 proclaimed a “caliphate” straddling Syria and Iraq, made his appeal in a sermon delivered on Friday in the militant-held northern Iraqi city of Mosul.
“I am the wali (leader) who presides over you, though I am not the best of you, so if you see that I am right, assist me,” he said, wearing a black turban and robe.
“If you see that I am wrong, advise me and put me on the right track, and obey me as long as I obey God in you.”
AFP was not immediately able to confirm the authenticity of the video purportedly showing Baghdadi, of whom there were previously only two known photographs.
The video is the first ever official appearance by Baghdadi, according to Aymenn al-Tamimi, an expert on Islamist movements, though the jihadist leader may have appeared in a 2008 video under a different name.
“God gave your mujahedeen brothers victory after long years of jihad and patience… so they declared the caliphate and placed the caliph in charge,” he said.
“This is a duty on Muslims that has been lost for centuries,” he added, sporting a long and slightly greying beard, as he addressed the faithful from the mosque’s pulpit.
Guy Macher says
Surely every devout mohameddan shiite is nearing allahu krackbar temperature this very instant.
Kiran says
I think he needs to be taken very seriously by Muslims ! He is now after all like their Prophet ! They must obey him n go to his Caliphate n as he says participate in Jihaad ! Failing which they stop being Muslims n r Kafirs ! The Islamic laws for kafirs then becomes applicable on all those Muslims who disobey him .
Gail Griffin says
Yeah squack and he will crucify you. He is so retro. Look at his get up. Kind of Antichrist. Join up losers.
Cynthia Rodeawald-Grove says
Well here’s your anti-Christ in the flesh. This is not a man of any God of Love. To bomb the sacred buildings of other fellow Arabs, and behead Christians, and treat women the way they do. That’s not religion. That’s fanaticism!
Reality Check says
Methinks he has overreached himself and the Muslims will deal with him in good time. There’s plenty of rulers in the Middle East, who will not take kindly to his ambitions, so his days seem numbered to me.
No need for the West to interfere – the Muslims will do us the favour of doing away with him without even being asked.
duh_swami says
People are reluctant to give power to an upstart, but if you act like you already have power, people will soon give it to you. That’s how Mohammad did it with a little help from his friends…and Allah of course.
John C. Barile says
Of course.
John C. Barile says
Behold your Khalifah, O good Muslims!
What does it matter if he’s a butchering lunatic–if Allah wills it, then he must prevail. So, then, hasten to assist him, fulfilling Allah’s wish for a perfect People, a perfect State, all bound by Allah’s perfect Law.
la_ialha_roflollah says
lol that cracked me up!
Yes good muslims of the ummah, go n assist ur caliph, gather ye in ye holy caliphate, dar ul islam n make it easier for ye infidels to send u to jannah
Sudhaman says
“Muslim leaders are dismissing today, saying that a state born in terrorism could never become viable”.
As if there was any history of a islamic state that was born due to hardwork, sacrifice and patience. Right from the time of muhammad , all islamic states were born out of terror.
John C. Barile says
Now, don’t you go dissing Khalifah Ibrahim, you najjis kuffir. Let’s not forget his hard work slaying Allah’s enemies, his sacrificing other mens’ sons and his own freedom for death and enslavement by Allah, and his cunning patience in gathering together the Steeds of War, to strike Terror in the hearts of all of Allah’s foes.
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
On this Fourth of July weekend this America takes pride in the fact that our dictator Prez rules by mockery, like when he said “sue me” to people who don’t like him usurping the law and issuing executive orders. Yeah, that’s in violation of his duty and sworn oath to uphold the law, but c’mon.
Simply demanding obedience without a trace of irony has no nuance. This al-Baghdadi dude wouldn’t go over well on the Daily Show With Jon Stewart, and he’d be torn apart on Real Time With Bill Maher. He still might be able to get a fawning “interview” from Steve Kroft over on 60 Minutes, though. He should try Steve.
gravenimage says
Islamic State’s caliph al-Baghdadi orders Muslims to “obey” him
His call has thus far met largely with scoffing outside of his own domains, and perhaps quietly inside them as well. It will only gain traction if he is able to make his state a viable one…
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As rational Infidels, we probably take “viable” to mean self-sustaining and peacefully trading with its neighbors—but with an Islamic state this need not necessarily be so.
If the “Caliphate” continues to expand through conquest and survives on booty, it will be enough for most pious Muslims. This is, after all, how Muslim empires “thrived” for hundreds of years—beginning with Muhammed himself in Medina. Slaves and loot…
More:
“I am the wali (leader) who presides over you, though I am not the best of you, so if you see that I am right, assist me,” he said, wearing a black turban and robe.
“If you see that I am wrong, advise me and put me on the right track, and obey me as long as I obey God in you.”
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It might sound as though Al-Bagdadi pulled this out of his ass, but not—it is a central tenet of Islam that the Ummah is supposed to obey any leader as long as they deem him a properly devout Muslim.
Other factors, such as whether he is a good leader or a savvy manager are only considered in the breech—and the issue of whether he is a decent human being is not even on a pious Muslim’s radar…
Jaladhi says
Ha, ha, ..this guy is becoming more delusional day by day. But he knows there are enough delusional Muslims who will listen to him. Though he shouldn’t count on those heads of all other Islamic hells to obey him!!
Mirren10 says
Har-de-har har !
This speck of fecal matter is now, apparently, ‘wounded’, and has scuttled off to Syria !
It’s like the Three Stooges, or Monty Python. 🙂
pumbar says
Curly, Larry and Mo (hamed)
Kathy Brown says
Hey: I like thinking of the 3rd world ‘medical care’ this lowlife will get in Syria.
The only excellent care in the region is obtained in Israel. What’s incredible is that the Israelis would doubtless treat him. But of course the Mu-Slimes could never permit themselves to be soiled by Jews…
Which ends us up just where we’d hope: This ‘caliph’, if in fact in extremis, will die-hoist on his own petard.
Jay Boo says
OBAMA $500 million money laundering ?
How is that 500 million that Obama asked for ‘moderate Syrian rebels’ coming along?
Is it just a coincidence that this is the same amount stolen from Iraqi banks?
voegelinian says
As always with Mohammedans, it is not so much whether they succeed that presents deadly problems for the free world: it is how much mass-murder, mayhem and misery they will be able to wreak even in merely trying and failing to succeed.
gravenimage says
This is *very* true—after all, it was delusions of grandeur that led Hitler to regard Nazi Germany as “the Thousand Year Reich”—but that didn’t mean they weren’t capable of wrecking havoc and the death of millions while they lasted.
BC says
It is called ‘folie de grandeur’. Madmo had the same delusion as soon as he h got a few followers to follow him as ‘prophet’. Unfortunatley this is the 21st century not the 7th. He is not dealing with ignorant illiterate peasants who think the sun orbits around the flat earth now.
No Fear says
This dipstick is copying Mohammed. Imagine what he thinks of all the idiots who obey him. “The fools. If I had told them to jump off a building they would do so.”
Transmaster says
In my world there would be the Allah Akbar missile who’s warhead would be a very large thermobaric bomb fueled with pork fat.
Angemon says
““I am the wali (leader) who presides over you”
squeezethejuice says
With that beard he looks like he could be the brother of Spencer. And they both have very similar if not identical views about what Islam is all about. Isn’t that odd?
John C. Barile says
The former is prescriptive, the latter descriptive. Speaking about things prescribed for you, why aren’t you in Iraq and Shams, buddy? You ought to be there seeking martyrdom right now.
gravenimage says
The repulsive “squeezethejuice” (squeeze the Jews) wrote:
With that beard he looks like he could be the brother of Spencer. And they both have very similar if not identical views about what Islam is all about. Isn’t that odd?
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What *utter crap*. This is like saying that Adolph Hitler and Winston Churchill had “very similar if not identical views” of what Fascism was all about.
Propagating evil and warning of that propagation are moral *opposites*, not equivalents.
And what of “squeezethe juice” himself? He may reject Al-Bagdadi, but he is on record here as yearning for a Muslim state where Jews can be exploited for Jizya—hence ‘squeeze the Jews’.
What he is dreaming of is a Caliphate or something much like it, so his sneering at Al-Bagdadi is not to be taken terrible seriously—at most, this is a rejection of one individual, not the grim vision of a brutal and exploitative Muslim state.
Angemon says
“Propagating evil and warning of that propagation are moral *opposites*, not equivalents.”
Exactly. Mr. Spencer even jokes about it (or at least he goes as close as one can be to joking with such a subject) when talking about being banned from entering the UK while Al-Arifi (who advocated wife beating and said that the desire to shed blood, to smash skulls, and to sever limbs for the sake of allah and islam is an honor for the believer) was allowed in. Both mr. Spencer and Al-Arifi agree that islam has a doctrine of warfare against unbelievers. The difference is that mr. Spencer is against it while Al-Arifi is for it.
You know, i recently said that we seem to be having different flavours of trolls fishing for casuals. Seems like squeezethejuice is trying to ride that wave.
Walter Sieruk says
That proud and arrogant al Baghadic who now claims that he is a caliph of an Islamic “state.” He and the other Muslim heads of that Islamic militant force who stand right behind him in the ruthless ,cruel and deadly positions of power that they gained by brutal force and heinous violence. All of them in their extreme hideous mindset of wickedness may be described in the Bible. For in the Bible in Psalm 73:6-9. reads ” Therefore pride is their necklace; they clothe themselves with violence. From their callous hearts comes iniquity; the evil conceits of their minds know no limits. They scoff and speak with malice; in their arrogance they threaten oppression. Their mouths lay claim to heaven, and their tongues take possession of the earth.” [N.I.V.]
Jerry says
Baghdadi is one of the true faithful who deserves their place in the Islamic Paradise.
Can’t the Israelis help to achieve that by sending their drones to expedite the passage?