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Netanyahu: Two-state solution impossible, Israel on frontlines of jihad

Jul 13, 2014 5:21 pm By Robert Spencer

Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu attends a Likud party meeting at the Knesset in JerusalemThis is, as far as I know, the first public acknowledgment by any world leader that a “Palestinian” state would like become just another jihad base for new attacks against Israel, just as Gaza did. It is good that Israel has such a clear-sighted leader in these difficult days, but noteworthy that this rather obvious truth is so obscure and so seldom articulated. Is Barack Obama really so naive as to think that a “Palestinian” state would result in peace, or would he like to see the advent of another jihad base against Israel?

“Netanyahu finally speaks his mind,” by David Horovitz, Times of Israel, July 13, 2014 (thanks to Pamela Geller):

Does Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu really support a two-state solution, or is his rhetoric to this effect disingenuous? Did he genuinely seek an accommodation with the Palestinians during the nine months of US-brokered negotiations that collapsed in April, or was he just stringing the Americans and the Palestinians along, while his heart is truly with the settlement enterprise?

These are fundamental questions — questions you’d think Israelis and the watching world would long since have been able to answer, especially given that Netanyahu is Israel’s second-longest serving prime minister ever. In fact, though, while many pundits claim to have definitive answers, most Israelis would acknowledge that they’ve never been entirely sure how Netanyahu sees a potential resolution of the Palestinian conflict, which concessions he’s truly ready to make, what his long-term vision looks like.

But now we know.

The uncertainties were swept aside on Friday afternoon, when the prime minister, for the first time in ages, gave a press conference on Day Four of Operation Protective Edge.

He spoke only in Hebrew, and we are in the middle of a mini-war, so his non-directly war-related remarks didn’t get widely reported. But those remarks should not be overlooked even in the midst of a bitter conflict with Gaza’s Islamist rulers; especially in the midst of a bitter conflict with Gaza’s Islamist rulers. The prime minister spoke his mind as rarely, if ever, before. He set out his worldview with the confidence of a leader who sees vindication in the chaos all around. He answered those fundamental questions.

Netanyahu began his appearance, typically, by reading some prepared remarks. But then, most atypically, he took a series of questions. And while he initially stuck to responses tied to the war against Hamas, its goals, and the terms under which it might be halted, he then moved — unasked — into territory he does not usually chart in public, and certainly not with such candor.

For some, his overall outlook will seem bleak and depressing; for others, savvy and pragmatic. One thing’s for sure: Nobody will ever be able to claim in the future that he didn’t tell us what he really thinks.

He made explicitly clear that he could never, ever, countenance a fully sovereign Palestinian state in the West Bank. He indicated that he sees Israel standing almost alone on the frontlines against vicious Islamic radicalism, while the rest of the as-yet free world does its best not to notice the march of extremism. And he more than intimated that he considers the current American, John Kerry-led diplomatic team to be, let’s be polite, naive.

Perhaps most reporters switched off after he’d delivered his headlines, making plain that “no international pressure will prevent us from acting with all force against a terrorist organization (Hamas) that seeks to destroy us,” and that Operation Protective Edge would go on until guaranteed calm was restored to Israel. If they did, they shouldn’t have.

Netanyahu has stressed often in the past that he doesn’t want Israel to become a binational state — implying that he favors some kind of accommodation with and separation from the Palestinians. But on Friday he made explicit that this could not extend to full Palestinian sovereignty. Why? Because, given the march of Islamic extremism across the Middle East, he said, Israel simply cannot afford to give up control over the territory immediately to its east, including the eastern border — that is, the border between Israel and Jordan, and the West Bank and Jordan.

The priority right now, Netanyahu stressed, was to “take care of Hamas.” But the wider lesson of the current escalation was that Israel had to ensure that “we don’t get another Gaza in Judea and Samaria.” Amid the current conflict, he elaborated, “I think the Israeli people understand now what I always say: that there cannot be a situation, under any agreement, in which we relinquish security control of the territory west of the River Jordan.”

Not relinquishing security control west of the Jordan, it should be emphasized, means not giving a Palestinian entity full sovereignty there. It means not acceding to Mahmoud Abbas’s demands, to Barack Obama’s demands, to the international community’s demands. This is not merely demanding a demilitarized Palestine; it is insisting upon ongoing Israeli security oversight inside and at the borders of the West Bank. That sentence, quite simply, spells the end to the notion of Netanyahu consenting to the establishment of a Palestinian state. A less-than-sovereign entity? Maybe, though this will never satisfy the Palestinians or the international community. A fully sovereign Palestine? Out of the question.

He wasn’t saying that he doesn’t support a two-state solution. He was saying that it’s impossible. This was not a new, dramatic change of stance by the prime minister. It was a new, dramatic exposition of his long-held stance.

Naming both US Secretary of State John Kerry and his security adviser Gen. John Allen — who was charged by the secretary to draw up security proposals that the US argued could enable Israel to withdraw from most of the West Bank, including the Jordan Valley — Netanyahu hammered home the point: Never mind what the naive outsiders recommend, “I told John Kerry and General Allen, the Americans’ expert, ‘We live here, I live here, I know what we need to ensure the security of Israel’s people.’”

Earlier this spring, Defense Minister Moshe Ya’alon sparked a storm in Israel-US ties when he told a private gathering that the US-Kerry-Allen security proposals weren’t worth the paper they were written on. Netanyahu on Friday said the same, and more, in public.

Netanyahu didn’t say he was ruling out all territorial compromise, but he did go to some lengths to highlight the danger of relinquishing what he called “adjacent territory.” He scoffed at those many experts who have argued that holding onto territory for security purposes is less critical in the modern technological era, and argued by contrast that the closer your enemies are, physically, to your borders, the more they’ll try to tunnel under those borders and fire rockets over them.

It had been a mistake for Israel to withdraw from Gaza, he added — reminding us that he’d opposed the 2005 disengagement — because Hamas had since established a terrorist bunker in the Strip. And what Hamas had been doing in Gaza — tunneling into and rocketing at the enemy — would be replicated in the West Bank were Israel so foolish as to give the Islamists the opportunity.

“If we were to pull out of Judea and Samaria, like they tell us to,” he said bitterly — leaving it to us to fill in who the many and various foolish “theys” are — “there’d be a possibility of thousands of tunnels” being dug by terrorists to attack Israel, he said. There were 1,200 tunnels dug in the 14-kilometer border strip between Egypt and Gaza alone, he almost wailed, which Egypt had sealed. “At present we have a problem with the territory called Gaza,” the prime minister said. But the West Bank is 20 times the size of Gaza. Israel, he said flatly, was not prepared “to create another 20 Gazas” in the West Bank.

Beyond Israel’s direct current confrontation with Hamas, and the eternal Palestinian conflict, Netanyahu also addressed the rise of Islamic extremism across the Middle East — covering the incapacity of affected states to resist it, and Israel’s unique determination and capacity to stand firm. He said Israel finds itself in a region “that is being seized by Islamic extremism. It is bringing down countries, many countries. It is knocking on our door, in the north and south.”

But while other states were collapsing, said Netanyahu, Israel was not — because of the strength of its leadership, its army and its people. “We will defend ourselves on every front, defensively and offensively,” he vowed.

And in a passage that was primarily directed at Israel’s Islamist enemies, but might equally be internalized by those he plainly regards as Israel’s muddle-headed self-styled friends, he added: “Nobody should mess with us.”

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  1. Beth says

    Jul 13, 2014 at 5:29 pm

    “Is Barack Obama really so naive as to think that a “Palestinian” state would result in peace, or would he like to see the advent of another jihad base against Israel?”

    By his works…I know that he wants to “see the advent of another jihad base against Israel”. He’d set the five muslim terrorists that he released in charge of the whole operation if he could. On that, I have no doubt.

    • John C. Barile says

      Jul 13, 2014 at 5:54 pm

      Another jihad base against Israel, against Jews worldwide, and against free people everywhere.

  2. Tradewinds says

    Jul 13, 2014 at 5:56 pm

    Just what the world needs – another Muslim country. Which is the last thing the world needs.

  3. John C. Barile says

    Jul 13, 2014 at 6:10 pm

    Unlike this smugly peacenik Israeli journalist, Bibi Netanyahu is right. And in these circumstances, an Israeli Prime Minister can’t afford to be wrong. Moreover, if Mr. Horovitz is so enamored of Barry, Kerry, and Allen–and the “international community” embodied in the UN–let him do both sides of this conflict a favor and move to New York./b> Nasrallah and Haniyeh are doing there part to see that such self-hating Jews, among others, have every incentive to leave Eretz Israel to their own tender mercies.

    • John C. Barile says

      Jul 13, 2014 at 6:11 pm

      Unlike this smugly peacenik Israeli journalist, Bibi Netanyahu is right. And in these circumstances, an Israeli Prime Minister can’t afford to be wrong. Moreover, if Mr. Horovitz is so enamored of Barry, Kerry, and Allen–and the “international community” embodied in the UN–let him do both sides of this conflict a favor and move to New York. Nasrallah and Haniyeh are doing their part to see that such self-hating Jews, among others, have every incentive to leave Eretz Israel to their own tender mercies.

    • John C. Barile says

      Jul 13, 2014 at 6:17 pm

      Yes, I realize that this piece is even-handed and lacking overt bias, but I still discern a profound dislike–a contempt–for this PM and his policies, and a corresponding acquiescence to so-called world opinion.

    • John C. Barile says

      Jul 14, 2014 at 9:59 am

      I retract what I say as mistaken and uninformed.

  4. Diane Harvey says

    Jul 13, 2014 at 7:02 pm

    “. . . or would he like to see the advent of another jihad base against Israel?”

    Robert, you know the answer to this one.

    It’s “Yes!”

  5. RG says

    Jul 13, 2014 at 9:18 pm

    This is the most refreshing, straight-forward public statement I have ever heard pertaining to the Arab-Israeli conflict! Bibi is a God-send! In my opinion, BHO, Kerry and Allen are 100% in favor of the total compromise and total demise of Israel to the demented islamists!

    To a greater or lesser degree, I can almost thank BHO for his wishy-washy anti-Israel policies. Why???? Because he’s brought out the hootzpa (sp?) in Netanyahu. In other words, Israel is now telling the world to stick a fork in it! Israel is sick and tired of getting pushed around by ignorant world leaders who only want to manipulate and control her for their own interests. Bibi is 100% right – the Israelis are the ones who have to live with the decisions they make.

    This is the most powerful speech I have heard to date pertaining to Israel’s determination to defeat their surrounding enemies!

    YOU GO, BIBI NETANYAHU, YOU GO!!!

    • Alice says

      Jul 13, 2014 at 11:51 pm

      Back a mother tiger into a spot, and she’ll come out tooth and claw for her kittens. Bibi is doing so, and good for him!

    • Bob Overstreet says

      Jul 15, 2014 at 5:32 pm

      Netanyahu is the best leader Israel has had and he knows that giving in to Hamas spells the demise of Israel as a nation. I believe that what is happenings is truly a fulfillment of Scripture in which anti-Christ forces will eventually invade Israel and take over Jerusalem for 3 1/2 years, then Christ will come. Alleluia!

  6. RG says

    Jul 13, 2014 at 9:18 pm

    This is the most refreshing, straight-forward public statement I have ever heard pertaining to the Arab-Israeli conflict! Bibi is a God-send! In my opinion, BHO, Kerry and Allen are 100% in favor of the total compromise and total demise of Israel to the demented islamists!

    To a greater or lesser degree, I can almost thank BHO for his wishy-washy anti-Israel policies. Why???? Because he’s brought out the hootzpa (sp?) in Netanyahu. In other words, Israel is now telling the world to stick a fork in it! Israel is sick and tired of getting pushed around by ignorant world leaders who only want to manipulate and control her for their own interests. Bibi is 100% right – the Israelis are the ones who have to live with the decisions they make.

    This is the most powerful speech I have heard to date pertaining to Israel’s determination to defeat their surrounding enemies!

    YOU GO, BIBI NETANYAHU, YOU GO!!!

  7. umbra says

    Jul 13, 2014 at 9:33 pm

    Mr. Netanyahu’s and any Israeli leader’s first and foremost responsibility is to safe guard Israel’s interest, not the interest (personal or otherwise) of obama, EU, UN or anyone else, especially hamas and fatah.

  8. RG says

    Jul 13, 2014 at 9:36 pm

    Robert, the preceding comment appears twice because it takes too long for new comments to actually post on your website. I double-clicked on ‘Post Comment’ because previously I had waited several minutes after clicking once, and my comment still had not posted. In order to actually post my comment that time, I had to click a second time. That being the case, I figured this time I would simply double-click, but the result was, as you can see, a double posting of my comment.

    Can’t you speed this up to alleviate the confusion?

  9. alyn21 says

    Jul 13, 2014 at 11:01 pm

    Thank Gd Netanyahu has finally woken up. Now if he does what needs doing with Hamas which is to destroy it once and for all then we actually have a chance at real peace. Especially with Egypt saying they want no part of Hamas that makes it even more logical then ever that it is time to wipe them out once and for all. Israel will never have a better opportunity. Hopefully it will not fail.

  10. Alice says

    Jul 13, 2014 at 11:49 pm

    A leopard can’t change his spots…

    • dumbledoresarmy says

      Jul 18, 2014 at 7:01 am

      But the Holy One of Israel can a/ drive out demons and b/ resurrect the dead.

  11. Charli Main says

    Jul 14, 2014 at 5:23 am

    I think that in the interests of peace and to stop Muslim attacks on America, the USA should adopt a two state solution.
    Hand over all land east of Hawaii to the persecuted “American” Muslims and then everybody can live in peace.
    There now– that wasn´t difficult. Its really so simple, once you realise that all the Muslims want to do is live in peace and raise their families.

  12. Joe Murphy says

    Jul 14, 2014 at 6:56 am

    >> It means not acceding to Mahmoud Abbas’s demands, to Barack Obama’s demands, to the international community’s demands.

    Don’t you just love the way Leftists refer to the ‘international community’, a fictitious authority that happens to be behind their policies? It’s a variant on the Marxist cooption of the presumed ‘will of the people’.

  13. habidoll says

    Jul 14, 2014 at 7:55 am

    I think he, like me, has for years, been praying, dreaming with eyes wide open. Move ahead when the opportunity allowed but carefully so as not to run ahead of HaShem or misstep politically.

  14. AnneM says

    Jul 14, 2014 at 8:34 am

    Telling it just like it is.

  15. IronyDome says

    Jul 14, 2014 at 8:54 am

    Thank you, Netanyahu, for finally saying what no world leader will own up to. Screw Barry and the UN in their cushy homes far away from rocket fire–you’re the PM, it’s your country, and you know how to defend it!

  16. dumbledoresarmy says

    Jul 14, 2014 at 9:05 am

    He’s got it.

    He knows what it is.

    Milhemeth mitzvah. As explained here, by a very astute Israeli Jewish mama.

    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Blogs/Message.aspx/4922#.Uc_Zlq68seU

    Same article on her excellent blog (well worth visiting, *especially* right now, July 2014).

    http://israelisoldiersmother.blogspot.com.au/2012/02/things-you-dont-want-your-kids-to-know.html

    And it’s time the rest of the Infidel world, free unfree and semifree, “got” it, as well.

    Because those who are hurling rockets at Israel with mass-murderous intent, foiled only by the near-miracle that is Iron Dome, would just as gladly kill *us* en masse, also.

    We here in the West need to be a/ writing to Israel with messages of support and encouragement and b/ telling our leaders to support Israel as well and to DROP the totally nonviable idea of a “two state solution” as regards Israel and the local Arab Muslims. Just fuggedaboutit. Because the Muslims, if they were to get such another Arab Islamic entity – and on the military high ground, to boot – would only use it, sooner or later and probably at once, as a jumping-off point for even more violent and continuous genocidal jihad against the Jews.

    Here’s an explanation of why Israel must hold – and command – Judea, and Samaria, and Mount Zion, if it is to have any hope of holding out against the neverending Jihad.

    http://israeliminx.wordpress.com/2013/03/16/outstanding-explanation-why-israel-cant-withdraw-to-its-pre-67-borders-line/

  17. Uri says

    Jul 14, 2014 at 9:37 am

    The jihadi is our sworn enemy. But the Jewhadis like macho man Netanyahu and his ilk are NO FRIENDS of the USA or the west.

    They would let their diaspora cousins bear the brunt of their short-sighted jingoistic world-view.

    • dumbledoresarmy says

      Jul 14, 2014 at 4:30 pm

      Fool.

      Muslims attacked and abused Jews for over 1000 years before the modern Jewish state of Israel came into existence on traditional Jewish land. Muslims hated, attacked and abused Jews – just read the Sira and see what Mohammed did to the defenceless Jewish farmers of the Khaybar Oasis, his murder of Kinana and his rape of Kinana’s young wife – when Jews were a stateless and scattered minority across the “Middle East”.

      Muslim Jew-hatred is animated by the Quran, the Sira, the Hadith, the example of Mohammed, all created at a time when the Jews did not have a sovereign state.

      All you are trying to do is to make Jews outside of Israel into “hostages”.

      What you *should* be doing is demanding that Jewish communities – and all other non-Muslims – within the world’s majority non-Muslim countries, be protected from and defended against Muslim aggression. And the thing that also has to happen is for those non-Muslim countries to put a complete stop to all further entry of identifiable Muslims within their gates. The more Muslims there are within the West (or anywhere else in the non-Muslim world) the more dangerous it gets for non-Muslims there: for the Jews first of all, but then also for the rest of us.

  18. Elisheva14 says

    Jul 14, 2014 at 11:29 am

    The 2-State solution has been US policy long before Obama took office. Bush had his road map for peace that had a Palestinian State with contiguous land. According to Caroline Glick between 1970-2013 the US presented nine different peace plans …all based on the 2-state solution. This has been the center piece of the US policy for 20-years. I don’t see how anyone could live with such hateful violent people as neighbors. They are becoming more radical everyday.

  19. dgala says

    Jul 14, 2014 at 11:49 am

    Good for Bibi!! I keep saying Israel should not care about public opinion, especially from our current admin in D.C. Protect Israel first – worry about everything else later…if at all.

  20. Uri says

    Jul 14, 2014 at 12:15 pm

    One state. Sure. Just give the Palestinians citizenship. All the Palestinians!

    Stop calling your Jewish state a democracy – you hypocritical schmuck – until you are a democracy.

  21. Kea Sherringham says

    Jul 14, 2014 at 12:49 pm

    The two-state (non)solution should become the two-word solution:

    Population Transfer.

    Push them into Jordan!

  22. bob unger says

    Jul 14, 2014 at 12:51 pm

    For all you geniuses who fall for Bibi’s Orwellian wordspeak—. When Bibi was finance minister, how did he vote on the issue of throwing 10000 Jews out of their homes, thus giving gaza and a rocket launching opportunity to the enemy?????? Did he vote to expel the jews or expel the enemy??????? As Rav Kahane said “If I had a dollar for every dumb Jew, I wouldn’t be filthy rich,but I would be very comfortable” Who gave away 97% of Hebron in 1995??? Where were we searching for our boys?? Where was Shalhavet Pass Z’tl murdered and who supplied the enemy with weapons? Most Jews are like battered wives–they just keep taking it

  23. Treva Brown says

    Jul 14, 2014 at 2:50 pm

    You Go Mr Priminister!!
    We, here in America, back you 100% You are doing a great
    Job. God has given you the wisdom to make the right decisions concerning Israel.
    Keep on your same path. God Bless You and
    God Bless Israel..
    God bless America
    Blessed be the Name of the Lord…

  24. Islofob IS-1 says

    Jul 15, 2014 at 3:03 am

    Cease Fire ! Again, peace in our time..

    Only thing, Hamas is rejecting it for now. We shall see, but I could see it again happening.

    Nobody should want to see conflict, and we can not know everything that is discovered in a battle as it plays out, but a cease fire is temporary for those who follow islam, that much is known.

    Progressives only wish peace on the terms decided by their high tower committee, and speak with one reading of the points.

    This cease fire, if it is accepted by Hamas, will end , bet on it.

  25. Sela Naidoo says

    Jul 18, 2014 at 8:27 pm

    Now has Bibi got to spell it out for the dumb Kerry ,Allen and The Bum.NO 2 state. No Hamas Base.Get it

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