I met lovely Mona Walter at a press conference in the Danish parliament a short time ago. A Swedish Ayaan Hirsi Ali in her own way. Being a convert in Islamized Sweden and even speaking out publicly about it and against Islam is exceedingly brave. Via 10news.dk, translated from Uriasposten:
She lives in Gothenburg and came to Sweden from Somalia at age 20 in 1994 … Immediately after her arrival, Mona Walter – that is her name – was visited by local imams, who explained to the young woman that she had cover her body and visit the the mosque more often. There, she heard how the learned men preached hatred of Swedish society and holy war against the infidels. She was disappointed and angry. She wanted to be a Swede, she wanted to be integrated, and she married an ethnic Swede and broke out of the ghetto and converted to Christianity. But today she fears for her daughters’ future. Not in Somalia, but in Sweden.
… Friday, she visited Copenhagen during the presentation of Lars Hedegaard’s book Muhammad’s Girls, now published in Swedish, which tells a broader story about women’s low status in Islam and the high levels of violence and rape that follow from this. … Mona Walter has no doubt that Sweden will be forced into a bloody civil war within a decade or two, if a public debate does not take place, and if it does not become possible to criticize the insane mass immigration to Sweden from Muslim countries. On the one hand, negative sentiments against Muslims will grow; on the other hand, the proponents of Islam and the gangs will get stronger.
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
What’s with all this criticism of Moslems for being misogynists? That’s what they *are*, it’s their holy religion. Accept that; deal with it. But no, the criticism goes on, and it implicitly amounts to total rejection of Islam as a belief system. No, we plow on, with dreams that their uniform hatred of and low-down usage of women is a misunderstanding, or maybe a pathology from centuries of colonialism.
Let the NYT and WFJ explain it. Wait, this is a subject neither will even take up. None of the press will. It can only lead to a very bad place: a world with Moslems.
Beagle says
I can channel the NYT. One, Muhammed ended infanticide of girl babies. Quote Tony Blair to the effect of, from memory, Islam was the paragon of tolerance in the Early Middle Ages. Crusades. Inquisition. Islam is at worst just like the Tea Party.
I feel dirty now. / NYT OFF
MM says
“Islam is at worst just like the Tea Party.”???
Dude, you are one sick son of a bitch.
JIMJFOX says
You are indeed, filthy. Believe what you feel, najis.
PRCS says
“What’s with all this criticism of Moslems for being misogynists?”
Some, many, too many “plow on” with only that second half of the equation.
The first part, the one that our fellow filthy kuffar need to be repeatedly and emphatically told about, again and again and again, consists of those specific passages from the Qur’an (don’t confuse them with the Sunnah) which drive the behavior about which criticism is appropriate and needed.
Example: [As for] the thief, the male and the female, amputate their hands in recompense for what they committed as a deterrent [punishment] from Allah . And Allah is Exalted in Might and Wise. Qur’an 5:38.
A punishment from “Allah” which clearly violates the U.S. Constitution’s prohibition against cruel and unusual punishment, and about which American Muslims should be asked where on the planet the punitive amputation of a fellow human being’s hand(s) is morally acceptable to them.
A steep hill.
John Stefan Obeda says
Permit this old man to show his ignorance, but, fellas and gals, all of you working and praying so that Islam never comes to us and in due time others be freed from their slavery and evil, do let the readers know what initials stand for like NYT and WFJ. But I do remember well what LSMFT means. Do you remember what those letters stand for? Here: Lucky Strike Means Fine Tobacco.
Lily says
Hey, I am not that old, and I don’t even understand the abbreviation lingo, well, maybe just a word here and there.
eib says
Their misogyny comes a long, pre-existing pattern of thinking known as materialist dualism.
This does not excuse it, nor does understanding it extol it.
Every action of Jesus Christ while he was on earth was against dualistic thinking and action.
Every action of Mohammed on earth validated dualism.
We would serve our interests well to know what this is, and what it is not.
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
So, in the Moslem dualism there is the lower dual and the upper dual, the latter on top. With the materialism, the Moslima’s bodies are the material, the canvas so to speak, and the Moslem Man’s sperm is the paint.
eib says
Your metaphors are close enough to be accurate.
In a dualistic mindset, materially interpreted, there are two forces, good and evil. Good is male, spiritual, heavenly, creative, and active. Evil is all that is female, material, passive, receptive, responsive or reflective. The philosophy of Mani, or the Manichaeans, which Augustine followed for quite some time before his conversion to Christianity, was highly dualistic. Though the Hebrews were not as intensely dualistic as other groups in the ancient Middle East, you can see traces of dualism in their practices. The most prominent example of this is the insistence that men and women worship separately. Another example of dualism in practice is the separate entrances for men and women in mosques and yet another can be seen in the idea that if a man has had contact with a woman or dog (the dog is like the woman, of earth, material and evil), his prayers will not to heaven go. The woman, by her very nature, is cut off from salvation, meaningful prayer, and mercy, and it is by this way of thinking that many “civilizations” and “cultures” alienate and even allow the torture and murder of women. The attack on the prostitutes in Iraq the other day will probably provoke a yawn in the Ummah, because they believe that the prostitute is made of something other than spirit.
The Aliwites of Syria are also committed, and intense materialist dualists– they believe that women are made by the devil to bedevil men, who are spiritual and meant for salvation.
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
Serious question without a hint of sarcasm: What is the opposite of dualism? It better not be multiculturalism, cuz that’s failing across the globe. Does tolerance have an existential system of thought?
Sovereign Man says
APF: The teachings and way of Christ are the ultimate of Good ideas of mankind, whether you believe he was the son of the deity or not. By really following the Golden Rule, and basing its laws and education on it, a society may become a civilized home for peace.
Mohammedanism is a supremacist warlord ideology and political system, like many before it, who we refer to nowadays as barbarians – Mongols, Huns, Vikings, Germans, etc. Their time will come, because as the saying goes, he who lives by the sword dies by the sword. I’m pretty sure that’s somewhere in the bible too 😉
eib says
It should also be noted that in the history of the entire world, no dualist system has EVER empowered or favored WOMEN.
R. K. MacUalraig says
Can you make a poem out of that, or have you sworn poetry off forever?
Always wished I would’ve copied & saved some of your stuff from way back.
Genius it was.
Jay Boo says
[“She wanted to be a Swede, she wanted to be integrated, and she married an ethnic Swede and broke out of the ghetto and converted to Christianity. But today she fears for her daughters’ future. Not in Somalia, but in Sweden.”]
——————–
Islam needs to be held publicly accountable for treating women as property.
A woman not allowed to marry outside of Islam.
Compulsion of Islam.
A Sham of Sharia Shame
— Islam Explain yourself to the world —
Charli Main says
It was a common every day sight in Libya, back in the 1970´s, to see women and girls sitting in the back of trucks with a herd of goats, while male children sat in the front with dad.
I don´t expect anything has changed since then. Women remain, in Islam, little more that sub human property, belonging to their male owners.
Jay Boo says
Beyond the veil cage
If Muslims in this cult insist on ownership rights to women as property and to forbid conversion to another religion through intimidation, it is not too much to ask that they be given an opportunity to explain on the main news networks their rational. Some Muslim women actually get to live in ‘the big house’ (Master’s home) and are better off than others.
Let them ‘enlighten’ us about Islam.
Jay Boo says
Islam is so porous.
Former Muslims have every right to be disgusted with Islam.
pennswoods says
Another sob story from Sweden from Jihad Watch. When will Jihad Watch have the courage to do a story about one of the most powerful forces for multiculturalism and “diversity” in the “New” Sweden an American woman named Barbara Spectre? Spectre, an American Jew married to an Israeli rabbi who serves the grand Mosque in Stockholm, works hard for a multicultural Sweden and Europe. She is a huge part of the Islamic problem and the violence they bring to Sweden yet she is totally ignored by what are otherwise honest and important Muslim watch groups. I wonder what if Spectre has guilty feelings when she see Muslim migrants riot in Malmö and attack the main synagogue in that city or when Muslims riot in Stockholm or other Swedish cities? I doubt it.
Wellington says
Another sob story? What’s eating you? And accusing Jihad Watch of a shortage of courage is risible. Wise up.
pennswoods says
It’s a “sob story” because Sweden brought this multicultural “diversity” catastrophe upon themselves with the help of people like the American Barbara Spectre. Over and over Jihad Watch posts these type of stories showing how DUMB Europeans are opening their doors to the Islamic world and we are supposed to care anymore? We know the cause and the outcome. I shed no tears over what is happening in Europe because of Islamic migration. Europeans begged for the situation they are in as has the other Western nations such as Canada and Australia.. Too bad their government’s, along with the USA , can’t do what Israel does to its African and Asian migrants. Israel deports their “intruders” (that is what Netanyahu calls them) using Israeli Air Force cargo planes or chartered El Al airliners. I wish the USA can’t do the same to the migrant invaders from Central America today. We can’t because liberal Jews along with WASP liberals would howl “discrimination” or “racism. Yet that is exactly what Israel does. They deport their migrant invaders. Why can’t the USA do the same?
eib says
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It’s a “sob story” because Sweden brought this multicultural “diversity” catastrophe upon themselves with the help of people like the American Barbara Spectre.
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Do not blame this woman for the folly of Sweden.
People more powerful than her betrayed their country to the conquering interests of the Ummah.
Wellington says
So, if Spectre had been mentioned, then you’d be OK with the story? Still don’t see your point.
As for not shedding any tears, one doesn’t have to shed tears to see that what harm’s one part of the West has the potential to harm all of the West. Reconsider.
pennswoods says
Barbara Spectre is part of this story because she is a well know foreign (she is an American/Israeli) advocate in Sweden for multiculturalism and “diversity” in that country and she arrogantly proclaims that a multicultural and “diverse” Europe is the future of Europe and even has the temerity to claim publically this MUST happen without the Europeans themselves having any say whatsoever in this matter affecting their own future. Is this woman not the height of arrogance or what? She is an important part of the problem concerning Muslim violence in Sweden because she promotes Muslim migration to that country. Every rape and riot in Sweden by a Muslim/Muslims can be traced back to the doorstep of Barbara Spectre and people like her.
thomas_h says
@pennswoods,
you say:
“It’s a “sob story” because Sweden brought this multicultural “diversity” catastrophe upon themselves with the help of people like the American Barbara Spectre. ”
Yet when you describe exactly the same situation in Ireland, you are very eager to blame the catastrophe on one man – Allan Shatter aided by “some self loathing Irish fools”.
Which is VERY different from saying “it’s a sob story because Ireland brought this multicultural “diversity” catastrophe upon themselves with the help of people like Allan Shatter. ”
Why such a difference in looking at the Swedish and Irish catastrophe?
harbidoll says
So I take it your not jewish or “wasp”, so what the heck are you? shall I stereotype & guess ah German? & why do you think these 2 types are in control? who would want the west to become less white & more dark skinned? Try the U N. me thinks-
pennswoods says
There used to be a saying “If the shoe fits wear it”. I simply laid out the facts about what Barbara Sprectre wants in her OWN words and what she is working for, and the fact she is not Swedish. This woman has a racist anti Western European Civilization agenda hidden under the guise of “multiculturalism” which is why she sticking her nose into the destruction of Sweden by massive migration from the 3rd world mostly from Islamic counties. These stories Robert Spencer posts about the violence by Muslims in Sweden have a root cause. One of them is Barbara Spectre. Why is that so difficult to understand?
thomas_h says
“Every rape and riot in Sweden by a Muslim/Muslims can be traced back to the doorstep of Barbara Spectre and people like her.”
Absolutely!
She hates Christian Europe much more than she cares for mohammedans and wants it dead and replaced by her fancy.
What I find it infuriating is that this despicable creep is not even a Swede, but an American mercenary in the Left’s war against Europe. Some American volunteers go to Syria while other go to Europe. Currently their respective wars resonate well with each other because they fight the same enemy. Which doesn’t mean the ISIS thugs wouldn’t behead the bitch had they stumbled upon her.
pennswoods says
Correct, Now that the war on Western Christian Civilization using migration and immigration has blown up in the faces of people like Barbara Spectre and her ilk to dare criticize her using her own words make those of us who have the temerity to point out that she is part of the problem somehow “haters” is pretty amazing isn’t it? Spectre should feel guilty when she sits in her comfortable home in Stockholm and sees Muslim’s riot in Malmo, Goteborg, and Stockholm. She should feel guilty when Muslim migrant males capture a Swedish girl off a lonely street and take her in the country and gang rape her. She (along with Swedish leftists and self loathers) helped cause all of this violence in a once peaceful homogenous country. If Spectre can’t be called to answer for the crimes she has helped cause because of her advocating the migration which caused them what is the point of talking about Muslim violence in Sweden in the first place?
shortfattexan says
It is tempting to say “I have no sympathy for the Euros – they made their bed, now they can lie in it.”
But the general population of Europe didn’t make this bed. The European governments did – and they did so without the approval of their citizens.
So to that extent, I do have sympathy for the Europeans who have had to watch their societies falling into barbarism, all the while knowing that it could have been prevented, but for the fact that their own governments knowingly allowed it to happen.
And (a point that I make often enough that regulars on this Web site are probably tired of hearing it by now), the exact same thing that happened in Europe is now happening in the US. Europe has a head start on us, but the road we are traveling leads to the exact same place.
And, like Europe, the descent into barbarism is preventable, but the government has willfully chosen to ignore the wishes of the citizenry and allow, or even hasten, the transition.
So if current trends continue, and the United States becomes a Sharia state, will you then say you have no sympathy for the Americans because they made their own beds?
Angemon says
shortfattexan posted:
“It is tempting to say “I have no sympathy for the Euros – they made their bed, now they can lie in it.”
But the general population of Europe didn’t make this bed. The European governments did – and they did so without the approval of their citizens.”
Yup, that’s the sad truth.
pennswoods says
Short, I tend to agree with what you say but if my memory serves me correct the majority of Swedes and most Europeans in the 70s welcomed migration and immigration. They wanted to show those bigoted and racist Yankees how tolerant Europeans were (only a generation of the most bloody war in history fought in large part about race and religion) and would do it by allowing small and controlled numbers of immigrants and asylum seekers into their countries and mold them into good Europeans. Of course this splan is a complete failure because they forgot the temptation their welfare states offered the 3rd world and the rest is history and we see the awful results in the streets of Europe today in the form of riots and Muslims demanding Europeans change their culture for their Islamic needs and the Europeans bend over backwards to do this. Today we are witnessing the total collapse and transformation of Europe. Of course the left has jumped at the chance to use mass migration (especially Muslim migration) as a way to at last destroy Western European Christian Civilization. To say this makes one a bigot because even though this it is the truth is it not the PC thing to say is it?
Jay Boo says
I see this story hit a sensitive nerve with Muslims and their apologists.
And so begins the long, long saga of off-topic diversion to avoid answering one of those awkward questions that implicates Islam.
Charli Main says
Why are you equating ” multiculturalism” and ” diversity” with the actions and behaviour of the Muslims infesting Sweden ????
Sweden´s Hindu, Sikh, Buddhist and other non Muslims communities are not raping, attacking and murdering native Swedes.
Muslim, camel scotum, apologists love deflecting blame away from Muslims and pointing the finger at “immigrants”
voegelinian says
The insinuating connection here is the Jewishness of Barbara Spectre, and because of a quote of hers in which she herself implies that anti-Semitism is growing in Europe because multiculturalism is being resisted (thus implying that all or most anti-Semitism is non-Islamic) and furthermore implying that in order to address this problem, European Jews are promoting multicultralism (which, perforce, would mean increasing Muslim immigration and attempted assimilation) in order to help undermine this growing anti-Semitism.
But, just because Barbara Spectre said this doesn’t mean that she is correct that Jews 1) are in fact doing this and 2) are the main engine and spearhead of the process of PC MC. It means, at most, that one Jew (Barbara Spectre) apparently believes this.
voegelinian says
Forgot the Barbara Spectre quote:
“I think there’s a resurgence of anti-Semitism because at this point in time Europe has not yet learned how to be multicultural, and I think we’re gonna be part of the throes of that transformation, which must take place. Europe is not going to be the monolithic societies that they once were in the last century. Jews are going to be at the center of that. It’s a huge transformation for Europe to make. They are now going into a multicultural mode, and Jews will be resented because of our leading role. But without that leading role, and without that transformation, Europe will not survive.”
pennswoods says
voegelinian, Thank you for posting EXACTLY what Barbara Spectre said in her You Tube interview. Her words are there for the world to hear uncensored as she spoke them. She is obsessed with her part in a left wing mission to change Europe forever using migration from the 3rd world. What she and others of her ilk, including Anetta Kahane in Germany and Alan Shatter are doing in Ireland, is pure racism by playing the demographic change game using migration. Tiny Ireland, especially Dublin, is now being changed beyond recognition thanks to the policies of Ireland’s As Minister of Justice, Equality, and Defense Alan Shatter whose parents came to Eire as refugee Jews from Eastern Europe after WW II. The demographics of Eire, and all of Ireland, is being changed by one man named Alan Shatter. Anyone who doubts this is happening or is the rants of a “racist” only need look at the migration rate into Eire in the past 10 years and realize that Dublin is now a 3rd world city with a huge Muslim population to understand what I post is fact.
thomas_h says
The unbelievable hubris of Barbara Specter’s rant matches only its stupidity.
That fascist bitch obviously believes that it is her destiny to be the enforcer of the eschatological designs of history. Her pursuing transformation of historical Europe into multikulti eyesore is fueled by the same madness, arrogance and delusion of grandeur which once animated Marx, Hitler, Lenin and the “Mahdi” in their war against the West.
Thank God she is far from being half as clever as they were.
eib says
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I think there’s a resurgence of anti-Semitism because at this point in time Europe has not yet learned how to be multicultural, and I think we’re gonna be part of the throes of that transformation, which must take place.
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It must take place, madam?
You are a totalitarian.
Traitor to humanism, and humanity itself.
We are not automatons.
Nothing “must take place.”
In a world where humans are, in their persons and property, dignified, your words are foolishness.
thomas_h says
@pennswoods
“The demographics of Eire, and all of Ireland, is being changed by one man named Alan Shatter. “
That can NEVER be the work of one man. His grand opus of dismantling Ireland could never be possible without the enthusiastic support of thousands and thousands of self-hating Irishmen. i think I can guess the roots of that hate. Can you?
thomas_h says
“Why are you equating ” multiculturalism” and ” diversity” with the actions and behaviour of the Muslims infesting Sweden ????”
Perhaps because “multiculturalism”, or enforced diversity if you wish, weakens the historically dominant, national culture, traditions, customs and identity. Some settlers, if their number is not too large, will integrate into the local culture and contribute to their adoptive nation in many ways. But muhammedans, whose culture is profoundly inimical to that of any host nation are using multiculturalism, which declares all cultures morally equal, to silence the criticism of the hideousness immorality of islam and slowly prepare the natives for the day their history, traditions, religion will be subjected and regulated by the norms that agree with Islam. Demography is destiny.
thomas_h says
i meant “hideous immorality” – not “hideousness immorality”
pennswoods says
thomas_h, Alan Shatter as Eire’s Minister of Justice, Equality, and Defence is in fact solely responsible for and controls immigration into Eire which is why has it has skyrocketed since he took his post. You are correct however that some self loathing Irish fools support the ethnic destruction of Eire’s indigenous Celtic, Viking, Norman, English, and French Huguenot population but one man controls this concept and opened the doors wide open to the 3rd world and Muslim migration/invasion into the Republic of Ireland: Alan Shatter. Please read on your own about the activities he promotes using his power which are 100% racist in intent and outcome. He wants the small island of Ireland with less than 6 million people to become a 3rd world nation. Which it is rapidly becoming thanks to his policies. If you haven’t visited Dublin since the 1980s you will not recognize the city as being Irish any longer. Thank you Alan Shatter.
thomas_h says
@pennswoods,
I have no doubt that Allan Shatter (Mad Shatter?) is an enemy of his country. A traitor. My point is that those who elect him to such high office are knowingly placing in his hand a powerful tool to do his evil work and are therefore as guilty as he is.
And yes, I have been to Dublin before 1980 and a few years ago. A mutilated city. Heart breaking.
Kind regards, Thomas H.
pennswoods says
Well said. I hope others here read what you posted and understand that people like Alan Shatter (who DOES have political power in Eire) are doing their best to encourage mass migration in order to destroy Western European Civilization under the guise of multiculturalism and diversity. Of course Shatter would not get anywhere with his perverted plan to destroy Ireland without indigenous liberal and left wing Irish fools jumping on the bandwagon with him and making this mass migration by Muslims and the other 3rd worlders into Ireland possible. One of the largest mosques in Europe will soon be completed in Dublin. I wish Jihad Watch would post a few “sob stories” about Muslims in Eire. I also hope Alan Shatter is pleased when he rides the streets of Dublin and sees the city he helped transform into a 3rd world Muslim cesspool and isn’t surprised when these same “new” Irish Muslims riot and attack his synagogue when something “offends” them someday soon.
Charli Main says
I you are so worried about immigrants and the loss of Irish culture, why don´t you take back the 20 million+ Irish emigrants that have swarmed into other peoples countries all over the world taking their Irish culture with them. The Irish have been a nation of emigrants and are the last people to pontificate about ” immigrants”
People like you are a classic case of the pot calling the kettle black (no pun intended)
pennswoods says
My surname is 100% Irish. From County Donegal. You don’t know me nor do and you know what you are talking about when you attack me personally. The Irish have migrated mainly to England, the USA, Canada, and Australia and they successfully assimilated into those nation’s way of life and became patriots. It also is true that IRA radicals caused problems in England, they were responsible for violence and death usually by bombing places where innocent civilians worked or gathered. These IRA thugs should have been shot when captured. Instead the English gave them fair trials.
thomas_h says
@Charlie Main,
“If you are so worried about immigrants and the loss of Irish culture, why don´t you take back the 20 million+ Irish emigrants that have swarmed into other peoples countries all over the world taking their Irish culture with them. The Irish have been a nation of emigrants and are the last people to pontificate about ” immigrants””
Charli Main, you produce many bland, insipid and quite silly comments. But this time you outdid yourself – at least as far as stupidity is concerned.
If you haven’t noticed yet, JW is exactly the place to express your worries about the deadly effect of mass immigration of people from cultures hostile and incompatible with the west. This is exactly the place to worry about the loss of, not only Irish, but Swedish, Dutch, Danish, Norwegian, French, Spanish and any other European culture. This is not only a loss of culture, but inevitably a loss of the national home.
Yes, pennswoods, is worried about the loss of the Irish culture for the same reason I am worried about the loss of Danish culture that will be replaced by the multikulti swamp where the natives drown and the muhammedans thrive.
About your stunningly idiotic comment about the Irish “swarming into the other peoples countries all over the world taking their Irish culture with them”;
Irish contributed immensely and in every area and every sense to the countries they immigrated too. They became loyal, creative immensely patriotic sons of their new homelands. And not despite of their “Irish culture”, but precisely because of it. The Irish culture is profoundly European Culture which means its spiritual, moral, ethical principles are shared with the countries they immigrated to. The Irish became truest American, Australian or Canadians in less than a generation And these countries benefitted richly and in every sense from Irish immigrants. Can you really imagine America, Australia, Canada, England or New Zealand without the Irish immigrants and their descendants? Only a fool would think they still be America, Australia, Canada and New Zealand?
Now can you imagine Europe without the muhammedans – the lovely place we once called home only a few decades ago?
You, judging from your multikulti proclivity, your contempt for the national/historical and sympathy for muhammedans, would consider it a loss and impoverishment of Europe. But I would do anything to have my old and free Europe back.
Now get lost Charli. You belong in the same category with Barbara Spectre. The category of Europe haters.
pennswoods says
BRAVO! BRAVO! BRAVO!
harbidoll says
agreed. the US is very successful cuz of their multi-, altho heavily Judeo- Christian culture. there are difficulties but no matter where you from, islam is a whole no game. doesn’t play well with others & has no desire to change or assimilate. While culture might think they have it all-they can be taught to get along. & Many cultures have disappeared , some by direct orders from G-d Himself! Time will tell.
mariam rove says
what? M
Beagle says
Your theory the keystone of the Eurabia project dating back to the 1970s is one Rabbi’s wife in Sweden is oddly constrained. The entire EU punishes critics of Islam. Her djinn powers must be strong.
Boston Tea Party says
Exactly. The Islamization of the west has little to do with Jews, and even less to do with Judaism.
gravenimage says
The only comments “pennswoods” has *ever* made at Jihad Watch is to rant about how an American Jew is (supposedly) responsible for all of Sweden’s problems with Muslims.
Sure—Barbara Spectre is a naïve and clueless multiculturalist, but she also has no official power in Sweden whatsoever.
This is just more sickening antisemitism—the idea that whenever anything bad happens, that it is all the fault of the “perfidious Jews”.
The fact is that Sweden has the same problems that the Netherlands, and France, and the British isles do. Is this all the fault of the Joooooos as well?
Boston Tea Party says
Well said.
pennswoods says
Wrong. I posted truthful Barbara Spectre facts. She happens to be a Jew who is a prominent American living in Sweden today who supports the dismantling of indigenous Swedish society by the mass migration of the 3rd world migrants. Listen to what she says and read what she writes about this subject. She is not above criticism because she is part of the problem in Sweden today and needs to be blamed for causing the violence in that country Jihad Watch constantly posts . Why do you always have the need to play the “J” card? Are Jews above criticism? That is a crazy as liberals who want to cover up the brutality of Islamic Jihadist’s around the world we read about every day. No religious or ethnic group, nation, or political organization anywhere is above criticism.
voegelinian says
As I wrote on my blog almost a year ago:
…we can blame those Jews who are talented purveyors of PC MC — but only for their talent in this regard, not for their motives or damage they cause, and thus no more or less than we would blame the millions of Christians who in our time also purvey PC MC (and the various Hindus, Buddhists, atheists, agnostics, New Agers, etc., who also do their part to keep PC MC dominant and mainstream in our time). To expand this talent into some kind of diabolical Macchiavellian malignancy intent on, and capable of, manipulating the globalist world to nefarious ends (and what exactly would be the logical end game for such diabolical Jews — their own destruction?), suffers from all the deficits that adhere to conspiracy theory — particularly its demonically stubborn resistance to falsifiability.
http://hesperado.blogspot.com/2013/12/jew-ne-sais-quoi.html
Lawrence Auster a few times tackled this problem. One interesting analytical report he published on this (particularly related to open immigration advocacy) is here:
http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/012702.html
pennswoods says
PC/MC are dead issues in the underdeveloped world. Only in the West is it a subject and tool used by the left to divide and destroy nations. Japan, as an example, is a highly developed and wealthy non white nation yet it does not allow migration nor do the Japanese want foreign cultures in the form of human beings arriving on their island’s shores and those who do are strictly controlled . They do however love Western technology, classical music, and pop culture. But the sudden arrival of blacks from Africa or a flood of migrants from the Islamic world in Japan and the Japanese would handle them quite differently than Western nations do. PC/MC is the left’s racist manipulation of Western nations to at last control our demographic future by dividing us and weakening our national and ethnic loyalties in order that we never again have power or influence to control the destiny of the world because the left thinks the West is evil. It’s that simple.
Wellington says
I second, gravenimage, what BTP said, respecting your take on “pennswoods.” Seems “pennswoods” has a stick up his butt about this Jewish woman in Sweden and Jews in general. What also stuck in my craw was his contention that Jihad Watch doesn’t have enough courage. Hell, not many out there have more courage than Robert Spencer.
pennswoods says
I did not insult anyone personally here nor did I make any anti Semitic statements as I have been accused. All I did was have the temerity to bring up the name of a racist named Barbara Spectre who is a self appointed authority on the racial future of Sweden and all of Europe who happens to be a Jew. I merely brought up Barbara Spectre’s name in reference to the above article and the numerous other articles Jihad Watch posts about Muslim violence and brutality in Sweden and the rest of Scandinavia today. Hardly a week goes by that a story about Muslim violence somewhere in Scandinavia today doesn’t appear in Jihad Watch. All I want is this woman who promotes Muslim migration to Sweden get some attention for what she advocates and ask her to explain her feelings about the violence Muslim migration to Sweden the policies she supports cause the Swedish people today. No one can deny that Barbara Spectre is an important player in the bringing of Muslims and other 3rd worlders to Sweden. Spectre is not an unknown player in the multicultural race game in Sweden today although she is almost totally unknown in the USA. She is constantly interviewed in by the Swedish media and participates in numerous debates in Sweden defending multiculturalism not only for Sweden but all of Europe too. My question is why is it any of her business as a foreigner in Sweden and as the wife of an Israeli rabbi in a synagogue in Stockholm to stick her foreign nose into the cultural and ethnic business of Sweden and the rest of Europe. Who appointed her as a moral authority for the racial future of Sweden or Europe?
harbidoll says
Jooodoo LOL
Jay Boo says
The slave trade religion of Islam will fail to hold onto Somalia as well.
The shackles of Islam are beginning to lose their grip.
el-cid says
The level of comments today is falling. Let’s clean up our act here.
Mona Walter is a hero because she is willing stand up for what she believes and to criticize that which she left behind in order to have a better life in the West.
Thanks for bringing this bit of light into the darkness today.
Jay Boo says
A bit Off Topic
Christian music from Somalia’s neighbor Kenya
Popular Kenyan Gospel Singer and evangelist Anastasia Karanja (Ngai muthemba Mwega) died in Nazareth Hospital on Tuesday 30th June, 2009 at 11.00 p.m.
God rest her soul in eternal peace.
Bwana Akisema
(includes some English words)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AibtzNI-5dw
Aya Mahana Mwathani wao by Evangelist Anastasia Karanja
Jay Boo says
“Lars Hedegaard’s book Muhammad’s Girls, now published in Swedish, which tells a broader story about women’s low status in Islam and the high levels of violence and rape that follow from this”
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Will the US ban this book at request of CAIR and Obama admin???
Steffen Larsen says
For years I took little to no notice of the growing presence of Islam in Denmark. Immigrants of all races and colors, faiths and persuasions, they were welcome ..I didn’t care . At most I was somehow vaguely aware that Islam as an ideology reminded me of Genghis Khan.
All of this changed after witnessing several incidents of muslim men harrassing young women, in public. I am now aware that those were the days when muslim women were actively being discouraged from abandoning the head scarf and becoming westernized.
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
Living in Minnesota, a state where Swedish-Americans abound, I was once presented the rhetorical question, “Can you name me another country of 7 million people that has successful industries in automotive, aerospace, chemicals, telecommunications, control systems, and pharmaceuticals?” Sitting with in a bar with the guy, whose last name was Olson, less than a mile from the Swedish Institute and just two blocks from the Sons of Norway, I had no answer.
It is natural that a country with so much success would self-mutilate itself first with socialism and now with Moslems.
Rojm says
There is nothing wrong with immigration. There is something wrong with bad ideas not people. We are all one. We all came from adam or eve or East Africa depending on your viewpoint. Revenge is a never ending. We all are brothers and sisters and came from the same source. The world is one. We are a small planet. The free flow ideas is more important than immigration or no immigration. Divided we fall, united we stand. The idea of the oneness of mankind is the only way to stop the division and silliness we see around in the news every day.
thomas_h says
“There is nothing wrong with immigration.
Well, sometimes and increasingly often, there is a lot wrong, even disastrous, with immigration. It all depends who and how many you let in.
pennswoods says
I agree there is nothing wrong with immigration so long as it is LEGAL immigration. Isn’t it odd that countries like Japan, China, Cuba, Mexico, and a long list of other nations (mostly in the 3rd world) do not allow immigration or migration into their ethnic or national homelands like the USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and most of Europe allow today? I wonder why not?
pennswoods says
I agree there is nothing wrong with immigration so long as it is LEGAL immigration. Isn’t it odd that countries like Japan, China, Cuba, Mexico, and a long list of other nations (mostly in the 3rd world) do not allow immigration or migration into their ethnic or national homelands like the USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and most of Europe allow today? I wonder why not?
thomas_h says
“I agree there is nothing wrong with immigration so long as it is LEGAL ”
Pennswoods, the vast majority of millions muhammedans that immigrated to Europe did it legally. Yet this has been a historical catastrophe. Legal, true, but a catastrophe nevertheless.
When fools and ideologically motivated charlatans are making laws the legal becomes the enemy of just.
Wellington says
Agreed, thomas_h. The West right now is in self-immolation mode and immigration is both a cause and symptom of this.
Can’t help but note as well, who the hell is immigrating en masse to non-Western nations? Telling to say the least. Actually damning.
Western Civilization pioneered rights, science, technology and so much else far more than any other civlization in history. Bar none. No wonder so many want to come to the West from all the failed or static civilizations and polities out there (though most who immigrate won’t admit or understand this).
Unless you’re in the “let’s-blame-the-West-for everything crowd,” as Muslims, Western leftists and other deficient people are, one implicitly understands that “the West is best.” That is until the last fifty years or so when the West decided, speaking in the aggregate, to lose its mind and go into an unbelievably stupid self-blame mode. Another factor is that the very extraordinary success of Western Civilization has made many Westerners take it for granted. Again ignorance reigns at the expense of the West.
Hope you and yours are doing well, thomas-h. As ever, I remain
Conservatively yours,
Wellington
thomas_h says
“Unless you’re in the “let’s-blame-the-West-for everything crowd,” as Muslims, Western leftists and other deficient people are, one implicitly understands that “the West is best.” ”
Wellington, it is so true that it’s painful. I often wondered what is the reason that the, in every sense, greatest civilization in mankind history produces its worst enemies. What fuels the mad rancour of the Left, or Liberals, as they are called “across the pond”? When and how did we lose our minds? Why do we not only tolerate, but celebrate fools instead of laughing them out of office? Where is the outrage?
Well, take care Wellington my friend.
(I smiled reading the “Conservatively yours”. )
All the best to you and yours.
Thomas
Rojm says
Yes, immigration is happening. Also the free flow of ideas also needs to be allowed in the west. If one wants to make a movie of Mohammed or draw his picture of Mohammed it should be allowed in non-muslim lands. If one wants to critic the Koran it should be allowed in non-muslim lands. Islam came into the world in a box- state religion and religion. Christianity came into world with out a box, it was an underground and stateless religion. Muslims immigrants need to understand they are immigrating to a non-box land- no state religion. One can change one religions or have no religion. Mona Walter came out of the box and that is a very heroic act on her part.
Beagle says
If the Romans had a do-over on Gothic immigration we might all speak Latin today. Immigration can be a positive influence or an invasion by other means.
gravenimage says
Important point, Beagle—the Roman Empire actually greatly benefited from immigration and the free flow of ideas for quite some time–especially, those of Greece.
But a turning point came when the immigrants were too dissimilar and no longer shared or admired Roman values—beginning with the Goths, things became problematic.
And by the time you got to the Huns, you just had barbarians who looked at Rome—and eventually her sacked remnants—as easy picking for booty and slaves.
There are lessons in history…
Beagle says
You should try that “oneness of mankind” rhetoric on a Wahhabi Sunni standing by a detonator connected to a Shia mosque in Iraq. Preaching to the choir here in the USA.
PJG says
“We are all one.” Yes, I get that line from Muslims overseas who want to wheedle me into helping them immigrate to my country. It doesn’t work…I know that “we are all one” will morph into “I am Muslim first of all” (with all that implies) when the frisson of living in the West wears off and they search out their own people.
Judi says
I visited Gothenburg about 10 years ago, before it became an Islamic paradise. Even so, I remember seeing a huge poster of Gaddaffi in the main thoroughfare on a wall and the whole area had a look of deterioration about it.
Rojm says
A lot of religions talk about a one god all the time. Then do the most horrible bad things as noted on this website. I think oneness of mankind is just as important. Love your enemies from the gospel. Love your neighbor as yourself is the fulfillment of the law : Romans 9-10. Both these messages have the idea of the oneness of humankind. There is nothing wrong about talking all the bad things that happened in the world or is happening now. The only way things can change if we know about them and do something about it. I think this website is doing a good service in not hiding the bad ideas and things happening the world.
gravenimage says
Somali convert in Sweden: Sweden might experience a bloody civil war
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Brava, Mona Walter! I’m glad there is another brave apostate telling the truth in Europe today.
I hope that, unlike in the Netherlands with Ayaan Hirsi Ali, that the Swedes will support her and listen to her.
dumbledoresarmy says
Yes, it is wonderful, isn’t it, when someone turns from slavery to freedom, from darkness to light, from death to life, from falsehood to truth.
She voted with her feet, with her heart and soul, and with her *womb*; she married a native Swede (which is a fundamental act of defiance against Islam), she converted to Christianity, and she has *daughters*.
Beautiful, non-mutilated daughters whom she will be raising to be free women. Since she’s a Christian and presumably married to a Christian, one may assume that on a future St Lucy’s day, one of her beautiful gazelle-like coffee-and-cream daughters may walk gracefully down the aisle of a church with a candle-crown on her head, as the young girls do in the Scandinavian countries.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2-Q_ObdE-4
When Somalis leave Islam and find spiritual freedom they are some of the bravest, smartest and feistiest Resisters against Islam that one can find.
This woman’s conversion to Christianity, in Sweden, is parallelled by that of the *other* Somalis who are leaving Islam for Christianity back home in Africa – in Kenya, and even in Somalia itself, at peril of their lives. They risk *everything* – and yet they choose freedom, truth, joy, light… Many of them have been martyred, rather than renounce their newfound faith. The Saints, Martyrs and Confessors of Somalia.
Arjay says
I’ve heard way too many people say that Sweden being a “big bad white country” with a “legacy” of colonialism… is now paying its due by bringing in wave after wave of muzzmaggots.
Really? As an American Indian I surprise a lot of people whenever I challenge such racist anti-white and anti-European views. Lets take a quick look at Scandinavia… and colonialism.
A lot of “colonialism” in Scandinavia was directed at fellow Scandinavians. Norway and Sweden mutually eyed each other and sought to rule the other at various times in history. Denmark ruled over Iceland until the 1940s.
Then there were Scandinavians who eyed other parts of (non-Scandinavian) Europe… Sweden under Empress Christina scared the Russians very much!
Then there were other Europeans dominating and wanting to “colonize” Scandinavia. The Germans occupied Denmark and Norway during WWII. And for years Finland had tried to repel any Soviet attempt to turn the Finns homeland into Finland S.S.R.
As Europeans moved about the world more than ever before after 1492…
Scandinavians emigrated from their homeland and went to the Americas, Southern Africa, Oceania and elsewhere. Around the time of Mandela taking over RSA, the Scandinavians numbered about 3-5 thousand. Many having died in British camps during the Boer War and WW One (blond Swedes and Norwegians were mistaken for Afrikaners and tossed behind barbed wire).
The handful of Scandinavians in Rhodesia fled under the oppression of Zimbabwe. Swedes, Icelandics and Finns in Australia and New Zealand have been in all aspect of those societies. Many times becoming very much allied and advocates for the indigenous Aboriginals and Maori. They get along with Aussies and Kiwis of every ethnicity- Anglo, Irish, Chinese, Greek… These Scandinavians definitely are not “big bad colonists.”
Some in Africa had themselves been victims of racism and expulsion as laws became intolerable for whites. Many of these Scandinavians had been outspoken against the policies of Apartheid. With official and unofficial intermarriage; many Scandinavians became mixed… and were also Afrikaner and Cape Coloured as they intermingled their genes.
Latin America created intermarried Scandinavians with Hispanics… and those who didn’t intermarry… still became Latins via culture and association. This didn’t mean they were immune from racism. One very popular American children’s author is ethnic Danish… but culturally and linguistically Hispanic as he was born and raised in Bolivia. Where his family experienced a great deal of harassment and racism for being ethnic Danes. He later came to America… a Spanish speaking Dane.
In North America and the Caribbean… FINALLY big bad “Colonists” or are they in every situation? In North America there is “New Sweden” (ie Minnesota and other future northern states). True… their were conflicts with Native American Indian tribes. However, peace did come. Many Indians through intermarriage or association took on Scandinavian surnames. This was common.
Sort of why American Indians in Louisiana had French surnames… and those in the southwest have at time Spanish surnames. The Indian tribes took on some aspects of the European culture that was the most dominant in their areas.
Then there is Denmark! Who “owned” the Virgin Islands; that is until they sold them to the USA in 1917.
So… there you have it! The legacy of big, bad and evil Scandinavian colonialism. From the benign to places where Scandinavians though members of those societies… experienced racism and expulsion against them In other places there was violence and bloodshed- such as taking the lives of American Indians… yet the Scandinavians in the USA of the 1800s still worked, sacrificed and bled to become “Americans.” Then there were Danes who ruled Iceland…
So, if there is anything about “white guilt” for Scandinavia… WHY THE HELL DO THEY TAKE IN MUSLIMS? Wanting “diversity” Denmark? Take in Icelandics and Blacks or Bi-racials from the Virgin Islands. Oh Sweden…. invite into Stockholm and Malmo… Swede-Americans, 1/4 Swedish ancestry Canadians and American Indians from Minnesota Indian tribes.
THESE PEOPLE ARE THE LEGACY OF SCANDINAVIAN COLONIALISM. Why didn’t they get invited into Sweden or Denmark? Well, a bi-racial Christian from the Virgin Islands…. a 1/2 Finnish-1/2 Coloured South African, a 5th generation Norwegian-Canadian, and Icelandic-Americans or a member of a federally recognized or state recognized American Indian tribe from the northern states…. would all be a lot more tolerant, hard working and willing to integrate into Scandinavian society IF they had been invited in.
Also, Scandinavia had been very OPEN in helping other GENUINE REFUGEES. In WWII the Swedes took in Danish and Hungarian Jews. In the 1970s the former Viking lands took in thousands of Vietnamese (Christian and Buddhist) boat people. There are Indian Hindus and Christian Africans in Scandinavia.
Scandinavia should have a clear conscience in the international realm. They have opened their nations to people from all over. They the Scandinavians are NOT required to take in ANY population or to have “guilt” over excluding Muslims.
As someone who is an American Indian and not white… I cannot understand why Europe feels they must take in Muslim hoards… and in doing so destroy themselves.
Michael Copeland says
But this is what the EU always planned,
Though silently, in treacherous underhand,
To undermine the structure of the nation,
And perniciously replace the population,
With a pliant underclass that’s State-dependent,
Leaving Eurocrat elites in their ascendant.
(extract from “I Live Here”)
https://www.facebook.com/LibertyGBParty 10 July 2014
Fulhana says
I am also ex, once insider from this faith, to know about this ideology people need to talk to people who was once insiders themselves because they “get it”. We get it, we understand things very well, this lady get it, Ayaan H Ali get it , other ex people get it, we get out of the ghetto true!, we moved on, we are open minded human beings, we didn’t enjoyed listening the filth hate crime language from the fanatics of our communities who think they are the best. We like Hebrew people of course, we like gays, Israel, America, Christians, Hindus, Gypsies anything and we also like animals like dogs, this is the way it supposed to be, this is 21st century and people need to move on. The fanatics don’t give anything back to the countries who help them Sweden, Norway, Britain, the countries who feed them, clothes them and educate them, they turn their back against them and move to Syria or other war countries to learn jihad, they are ungrateful and I don’t like this.
Doc says
Hang tough mam GLORY DAYS ARE COMING