How many Muslims in Western countries support the Islamic State, agree with the Islamic State, plan to or would like to wage jihad with the Islamic State? No one knows. Political correctness has forbidden us to ask such questions, much less to get answers.
“Counter-terrorist unit stops would-be jihadist at Sydney Airport as security increased,” by Simon Benson, The Daily Telegraph, August 28, 2014 (thanks to Kenneth):
A WESTERN Sydney jihadist bound for the Middle East war zone has been put on a national security watch list after being detained at Sydney Airport on Sunday.
The Sydney man, described only as being 25-35 years old, was picked up by a new airport counter-terrorism unit, first revealed by The Daily Telegraph three weeks ago, as he tried to board a flight to Beirut with his family.
Sources confirmed he was stopped from leaving Australia and was issued with infringement notices related to terrorist-related material linked to the Islamic State in his luggage.
The sources said he had now been placed on an intelligence agency watch list.
MUSLIM LEADER OFFERS TO PAY RADICALS TO LEAVE AUSTRALIA
Five men who left Britain in October last year have been shown on CCTV footage leaving th
Five men who left Britain in October last year have been shown on CCTV footage leaving the UK to join the Islamic State under the guise of taking a vacation in Turkey / Picture: Supplied
Another potential terrorist with links to the Islamic State terrorist army fighting in Syria and Iraq was detained at Melbourne Airport the following day, also trying to board a plane for the Middle East.
The border crackdown came as American officials revealed President Barack Obama would make a decision on expanded air strikes, possibly with Australian military logistic support, against the Islamic State within days.
It also follows revelations in London that up to 30 radicalised British citizens a month are travel to Syria and Iraq to join IS fighters.
This week authorities released CCTV footage from Gatwick Airport showing five Britons — calling themselves the Britani Brigade Bangladeshi Bad Boys — posing as tourists and taking cheap flights to the Turkish resort town of Antalya in October last year. From there they easily made their way to the war zone in Syria to fight their “holy war”.
Yesterday, Prime Minister Tony Abbott told parliament one person had been detained in the three weeks since the establishment of the border protection unit aimed at securing airports and identifying potential national security threats. But it is understood several more people have since been denied exit from Australia after being found with terrorism-related material and large sums of cash believed to be intended for the IS army.
Immigration Minister Scott Morrison told The Daily Telegraph: “Our border agencies have really stepped up to respond to the very real threats we now face, and they are now strongly supported with the policies and resources they were starved of under Labor.”
New units … security has been upped at Melbourne and Sydney airports.
New units … security has been upped at Melbourne and Sydney airports.
Mr Abbott’s revelations followed an admission by the departing head of ASIO, David Irvine, that suicide bombers were being groomed in Australia for terrorism in the Middle East.
Australian military support for the US operation appears contingent on reassurances that any action would not repeat the mistakes of the past.
One minister admitted there was reluctance to offer any support until a clear plan had been articulated by the US. The minister said there were concerns about becoming involved in another Middle East quagmire.
The National Security Committee has met twice this week to discuss what level of military involvement Australia might offer after The Daily Telegraph revealed on Monday that discussions had been held between US and Australian defence officials….
St. Michael Defend Us says
Why stop him? Let him go! With any luck, he will be killed over there.
mariam rove says
Well said!! M
SaturnV says
Absolutely! Confiscate the passport and let him go. Never let him back in!
Steakman says
I couldn’t agree more. That should be standard OP for these so called “jihadists”.
Leaving for jihad…?? Passport please.? thank you Muhhamed Jones ..now on your way to your airplane. Nice of you to leave…good luck in Syria.
I love it.
TH says
Interrogate him and find out more about what jihadists are up to in Australia. Then, they shold simply expell him. Why would any country with a minimum of common sense want to spend taxpayers money on keeping such terrorists in jails, with the danger of convincing other prisoners to become jihadists. His hard luck that ISIS doesn’t issue pasports.
http://islamforbids.com says
Bingo.
cliffface says
He was released with no charges laid.
dumbledoresarmy says
Exactly!
If they knew enough about where he was going and why, to be confident that they had a case for *arresting* him…they should have waved him on his way to Syria, then made damn sure that he would NEVER get back into Australia.
Better out than in!
Cat Lady says
The policy of preventing muslims from exiting I do not get. Let them leave and block their re-entry.
Christian Woman says
They block them leaving because they send back the information and training they get over there to the muslims back here with the chances being they could start something here. That is why they stop them going.
Angemon says
This is stupid. Why not simply let him go and quietly strip him of his citizenship so he’d been unable to return ever?
ibn Muslim says
Sure, Australia is a WESTERN country. And the guy was actually heading west to go to ISIS…
Champ says
Indeed ..and a mass exodus of muslims to the ME would be a *dream* come true, for me.
Mike says
What’s the government going to do? Threaten to cut off his and his family’s social security pensions perhaps. It wasn’t mentioned that the Muslim “community leaders and scholars” took umbrage at Australia’s efforts to beef up national security. Said they were being “demonized, marginalized and stereotyped”. Meanwhile in England, returning jihadis are going to be encouraged to take part in (voluntary) “de-radicalisation programs. ” (no joke – I heard it on the news and read it as well).
Anon says
Warning, long post ahead.
“How many Muslims in Western countries support the Islamic State, agree with the Islamic State, plan to or would like to wage jihad with the Islamic State?” True, “No one [really] knows [for sure].” However, let’s do the math, as they say. A global analysis. And let’s even be generous and reserved in our calculations. Worlwide, 1.5 billion Muslims (http://www.adherents.com/Religions_By_Adherents.html), and being generous times 7% (http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2003/10/how-many-islamists), that calculation gives us a result of 105 million muslims that are probably either militant or militant-leaning or militant supportive in some way. Now, that’s not a problem? It’s certainly a problem that “moderate” Muslims should take the lead in correcting. Or, here’s an alternate analysis 7.2 billion people worldwide (http://www.census.gov/popclock), times 0.232 (http://www.pewforum.org/2012/12/18/global-religious-landscape-exec), times 0.06 (do your own googling), results in 100 million radical Muslims. Again, with large organized groups like al-Qaeda, this is a startling presentation.
There are commenters that are going to exaggerate in both directions, saying “one is too many” or “it’s more like 500 million” but even the forgiving analysis here in this post makes a certain point I think that should get the attention of any common-sense person.
Islamist-Watch.org had a good quote on it’s page from 2011:
http://www.islamist-watch.org/blog/2011/09/pew-poll-quantifies-the-radical-minority-of-us
‘Congressman Peter King, who called Pew’s results “disappointing” and reiterated the need for hearings, has the right perspective: “Seventy percent of American Muslims are opposed to al-Qaeda. We are at war with al-Qaeda. One hundred percent should be opposed to al-Qaeda.”‘
In addition, and in contrast to all other faiths, radical muslims follow written texts, the Quran as one of many, MORE CLOSELY than moderate Muslims. “Violent passages” gimme a break. Christians follow New Testament scripture not Old Testament scripture and in addition, the Old Testament is by far a RECORD of what happened, not instructions to current day believers.
In addition, shouldn’t all the jihad awareness type sites on the internet be run by “moderate” Muslims? THEY ARE NOT!
Don’t agree with this post? Then please go live in a Muslim country for 10+ years that implements Sharia Law instead of enjoying freedom while criticizing those who criticize Islam. It’s amazing how softies will try and spin the numbers by referring only to “percentage” – oh, “only six PERCENT” that’s not very much. See above.
GP says
$50K per year in prison in the UK/US or one well placed bullet over there, ask the taxpayers which they prefer since they are paying the bill.
The IS has recruiting centers all over the world, they are called mosques!
wolfgang says
What is wrong with these dip stick pollies like Abbott and the soft wimp of ASIO ?……hello do none of you idiots know what the Qur’an says ? I am sick of my tax payer dollars supporting these 5th column clowns, what moron stops these creeps from going in the first place ?, CANCEL THEIR FRIGGIN PASSPORT AFTER THEY GO !, hopefully they die over in Syria or Iraq, saves the poor tax payers lots of money not to feed these subversives, I often wonder what is wrong with my fellow Australians, do no other Aussies get pissing mad at these semantics ? or is it just me ?
Will says
Just shoot the bastards: they are traitors if they want or support Sharia Law.
The west is too gutless and too weak and wasting money on “education” without closing madrassas is an insult to our intelligence.
Maybe we should all **** on the ISIS flag(as did that Egyptian Fem), or use Muhammad toilet paper and use that pig material ammunition on them as needed. Total war requires Total war and the high moral ground is already filled by those murdered by Muslims in the past who died as real martyrs
Tee 'n' the Wildlife says
I swear to God, I do not understand why Western countries don’t just let these b@st@rds go. They want to die over there? One less troublesome fool to deal with. Let them get blown up! Or, if they manage to survive after joining an army of the enemy therefore forfeiting their Western citizenship, refuse them entry! What is wrong with the West? Why is everyone in government such a lily livered buffoon? A lot of us hoi polloi aren’t such fools!