Islam and Christian Genocides in Turkey
by Serkan Engin
As some have said in the West, in fact, the Armenian, Assyrian, Chaldean, Nestorian and Pontian Greek genocides were “Christian genocides”. On the other side were Muslim Turks and Kurds. The basis in society and justification in conscience of these genocides were Islamic rules. Islam gives permission to all Muslims to kill and rape every non-Muslim, and also to grab all their money and properties. The de facto killers in these genocides were the predatory bands of the “Secret Organization” (In Turkish: Teşkilatı Mahsusa). The Turks and Kurds who killed their own non-Muslim neighbours, enslaved their women and little girls as sex slaves, and grabbed all their properties, had not had any awareness of “nationalism,” as did their commanders, the leaders of the Union and Progress Organization. So the Turks and Kurds who took part in the Armenian, Assyrian, Chaldean, Nestorian and Pontian Greek genocides massacred innocent humans with pleasure, had not done all this for the benefit of “Turkish nationalism”. They were simple farmers, describing themselves as “Muslim”, but not as “Turkish” or “Kurdish”.
The massacre order of the Union and Progress Organization leaders was a gift for the Turks who lived on as predators for two thousand years, and only can turned to agriculture and the breeding of livestock in Anatolia. They considered it a gift because they got the chance to pillage their “rich” non-Muslim neighbours by the order of their government, and also they could take revenge upon non-Muslims who had, in their eyes, a great deal of money.
Kurds, who were living in the same region for thousands of years and didn’t have ability, aptitude and historical experience except in the jobs of agriculture and the breeding of livestock, like their Turkish coreligionists, became happy too, because they would, along with the Turks, pillage the money and properties of the non-Muslims.
Muslim Turks and Kurds pulled their non-Muslim neighbours to pieces with the appetite and wildness of hyenas without any mercy; moreover, they gloated over all of this. They grabbed all the houses and stores of the non-Muslims, and they enslaved the women of non-Muslims as sex slaves and also domestic slaves in their “harems” as their “booty,” as it is ordered in the rules of Islam. And they sold some of these women and girls at the slave bazaars for a bit of money.
The perpetrators of this terrible period didn’t feel any self-reproach; on the contrary, they were very happy, because they became more worthy of Allah, the god of Islam. They became better Muslims with these disgusting massacres. So they came closer to the heaven of Islam, with its many houris (group sex) and open buffet bar (rivers of kevser wines).
They were in peace because they were obeying the laws of their own god, Allah, and the government.
They raped tiny girls and women, slaughtered innocent humans, burned children alive, and massacred millions of non-Muslims by the order of the “peace” religion Islam.
Because their Allah was very merciless to the ones who disbelieved.
A socialist Laz poet from Turkey, Serkan Engin was born in 1975 in Izmit, Turkey. His poems have been published in English in The Tower Journal, Poetry’z Own, Belleville Park Pages, Far Enough East, Spilt Infinitive Lit Magazine, Empty Mirror, The Writer’s Drawer, Poetry Super Highway, Miracle E-zine, Industry Night Lit Magazine, Open Road Review, Shot Glass Journal, The Criterion and Mediterranean Poetry. Some of his poems appeared in Japanese in the leading Japanese philosophy and poetry journal Shi to Shisou.
Chabuco says
“A socialist poet… ”
There you go, from the horse’s mouth.
Huck Folder says
Camel’s ?
Jay Boo says
“Muslim Turks and Kurds pulled their non-Muslim neighbours to pieces with the appetite and wildness of hyenas without any mercy; moreover, they gloated over all of this. ”
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Did you read what MUSLIMS did?
Why get bent out of shape because he is a socialist?
Who cares?
That is nitpicking side issues in the style of — voeg
Borrowing from an expression of another Jihad Watch commenter
“Isn’t that like picking the fly shit out of pepper.
voegelinian says
Che had poets killed — just like Mohammed did. Support for Communism or Nazism should disqualify one from the anti-Islam movement (isn’t that why Vlaams Belang’s members have been personae non gratae in the CJ, and one of the good reasons why Spencer doesn’t hold truck with Maryam Namazie?).
(For the sophomores reading: this doesn’t mean I think Communism or Nazism are exactly as bad as Islam; I think Islam is far, far worse and more dangerous. But — Logic 101 — that doesn’t mean that Communism or Nazism are not pernicious enough to damn anyone who flirts with them.)
Jay Boo says
Che would probably kill this peace sign flashing poet too.
Islam is so incredibly evil that there is no need to get into an equivalence debate over a poster.
It may be more of an anti-establishment sentiment than a blanket endorsement.
Have we so quickly forgotten all the ‘Che Guevera’ leftists in the West who instead eagerly grovel to appease Islam?
There are not many people including Jihad Watch commenters who would put their lives on the line in Turkey. I suspect that the poster is more of a poor attempt at using a revolutionary symbol to stir up thought against Islamic conformity than trying to promote socialism. The guy is even flashing a peace sign which we in the West might consider a bit outdated. Should we label him a hippy?
Let him have his poster fetish as long as he eviscerates Islamic ideology.
voegelinian says
” I suspect that the poster is more of a poor attempt at using a revolutionary symbol to stir up thought against Islamic conformity than trying to promote socialism.”
Well, this Turk needs to come clean and explain himself. If he’s so brave in repudiating Islam, surely he can explain whether he’s Communist or not; and if he would claim he’s not, he then would need to give a good explanation for his Che chic. It’s not our job or burden to speculate in order give him the benefit of the doubt; that’s his responsibility. He probably won’t lift a finger to do anything about it, however, if no one demands it and instead praises him and lavishes Counter-Jihad bonafides upon him. Again, Spencer has been careful (overly so, sometimes) on former occasions in keeping certain supposed Undesirables at arm’s- and cooties-catching-length (e.g., Vlaams Belang) because of their alleged ideological associations; so the general concept — of maintaining a vetting process of those who profess to be anti-Islam — is not something I pulled out of thin air.
Skåning says
Vlam’s belang are no nazis. I don’t know where you get that from. Have you seen any of them having fan pictures of Horst Wessel on their walls?
It seems to be an ever growing disease these days that the press in other countries call any sort of national conservatives “nazis”, and get away with it, because they don’t know enough of national politics in the country they speak of.
jewdog says
Barbarism has certain liberating qualities, and Islam taps into that.
Salah says
“Muslim Turks and Kurds pulled their non-Muslim neighbours to pieces with the appetite and wildness of hyenas without any mercy;…”
Savages, true followers of a savage!
“When the Prophet was informed by a shouter for help, he sent some men in their pursuit, and before the sun rose high, they were brought, and he had their hands and feet cut off. Then he ordered for nails which were heated and passed over their eyes, and whey were left in the Harra (i.e. rocky land in Medina). They asked for water, and nobody provided them with water till they died.”
Bukhari :: Book 4 :: Volume 52 :: Hadith 261
http://crossmuslims.blogspot.com/2012/03/muhammad-and-torture.html
WVinMN says
Again, I really don’t give a fig what this marxist has to say. There are enough other people dedicated to exposing islam that simultaneously hold liberty in high regard.
jewdog says
I think this guy’s politics are secondary. He’s shown enormous courage and we should listen to him and appreciate him.
WVinMN says
Sorry jewdog, when someone is a self proclaimed socialist and thinks a mass murderer is hip, I tune out. Either he is a very special combination of stupid and ignorant, or he’s evil. Either way, I have no use for him.
Jay Boo says
WVinMN
How do you feel about Christians?
disposable???
Jay Boo says
WVinMN You must be a hard core atheist to rant such stupidity.
WVinMN says
Your a moron, and your reputation proceeds you. Therefore, I’m not going to spend a lot of time with someone so challenged. However, I must set the record straight regarding who Che Guevara was and the crimes he committed during his lifetime.
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/294367/don-t-erect-monument-che-carlos-eire
http://www.ihatethemedia.com/13-reasons-you-should-throw-away-your-che-guevara-t-shirt
Che Guevara was one of the more evil, vile human beings that lived during the last century. He functioned as Castro’s henchman, and more importantly, his image transitioned into to the face of the revolution. Che murdered thousands of people, built concentration camps for homosexuals and took pleasure in partaking in torture. He was a cold blooded mass murderer in the same mold as Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot, and Serkan Engin openly embraces this vile filth! No surprise a morally compromised mental midget such as yourself would either not be familiar with Che or simply refuse to give a damn. I have standards. Sorry to disappoint you.
Jay Boo says
You say that
“Serkan Engin openly embraces this vile filth! ”
(See my reply to voegelinian )
So far the only evidence for your self-righteous equivocating vitriole against Serkan Engin (himself) is the reference t of a wall poster and buttons. I recall that many pot smoking anti-establishment (hippies) in the 60’s would have Che memorabilia merely as a show of non-conformity without having any clue of who he was.
Whether or not socialism is very bad is a separate issue and for you to ascribe that Serkan Engin is a devote follower of all the evils of socialism on such flimsy evidence is to use a straw man as your evidence.
I agree socialism is very bad, so what.
Jay Boo says
WVinMN
You recently called Wellington an ass for disagreeing with your most highly esteemed ‘opinions’
You then quickly recanted when your insult did not get the full traction you that had hoped for.
To use your own words
“your reputation proceeds you”
Jay Boo says
@WVinMN
Once again,
How do you feel about Christians?
disposable???
WVinMN says
I never recanted on what I said to Wellington you language challenged freak! I apologized for calling him an ass. You don’t deserve any such courtesy.
Angemon says
I’m sure they’d get along fine with the OWS movement.
Not just the perpetrators themselves, as far as I know, no Turkish government ever acknowledged the genocide. Disgraceful.
Chabuco says
Yep, not even secular Turkey could escape from Ottoman nostalgia -akin to today’s Russia with its Stalin/USSR nostalgia-. It was secular Turkey after all who invaded Cyprus.
Chabuco says
And please, people! Don’t forget the Bulgarian and Greek genocides committed by… who else? The Turks!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_genocide
http://www.crethiplethi.com/the-turkish-atrocities-in-bulgaria/islamic-countries/turkey/2010/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batak_massacre
tim heekin says
there’s a new book out, “Lawrence of Arabia as you never saw it”, which offers a dedication (maybe the first) on the Armenian Genocide on the upcoming 100th anniversary of the genocide’s inception. I found the book on Amazon. Damn good stuff
Michael Copeland says
The same sentiment is alive and well today.
“…bomb Denmark so we can invade their country, and take their wives as war booty”, shouted a muslim demonstrator in London.
Violent Muslim Protest Outside the Danish Embassy in …
► 10:00► 10:00
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoMeUcC_M20
12 Mar 2008 – Uploaded by makesyoumadd
Thomas Wells says
Instead of jihad muslims, the correct term is murderims.
gravenimage says
Islam and Christian genocides in Turkey
by Serkan Engin
As some have said in the West, in fact, the Armenian, Assyrian, Chaldean, Nestorian and Pontian Greek genocides were “Christian genocides”…
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This is an important point—what is usually called the “Armenian Genocide” was really a genocide against *all* Christians. Besides those listed above, Bulgarian and “Levantine” Christians were targeted, as well.
Actually, it goes even further—during the destruction of Smyrna in 1922, the Jewish quarter was also liquidated.
So this was a genocide of *all non-Muslims in Turkey*—and this policy was begun by the Ottoman Empire, and then continued under the “Young Turks” and under Attatürk.
While I have never seen the two issues formally linked, I believe the specific motivation—besides the general ingrained Muslim hatred of Christians and Jews, was *this*: Western pressure had led the Ottoman Empire to end the worst of its imposition of dhimmitude, such as the payment of crushing Jizya, the hideous Janissary system and seizing Christian girls for the imperial Harem and to sell into slavery in the 19th century.
Of course, Christians were still oppressed and insecure second-class citizens.
But I believe that the Muslim Turks essentially decided that if they could not abuse and exploit their Infidel subjects to the full extent, then they would simply slaughter them all.
And they largely succeeded—the full final toll of the successive waves of genocide—from the 1890s though 1922—was almost two million, and there is just a tiny remnant of non-Muslims surviving in all of Turkey today.
Pious Muslims were so intent on eradicating the “filthy Kuffar” that they destroyed their own wealthiest, most cosmopolitan and vibrant city—Smyrna—because it was Christian-majority. That gives and idea of the extent of their single-minded blood lust.