Circumcision: “Circumcision is obligatory (for every male and female) (by cutting off the piece of skin on the glans of the penis of the male, but circumcision of the female is by cutting out the bazr ‘clitoris’ [this is called khufaadh ‘female circumcision’]).” — ‘Umdat al-Salik e4.3, translated by Mark Durie, The Third Choice, p. 64
Sex slavery: “Certainly will the believers have succeeded: They who are during their prayer humbly submissive, and they who turn away from ill speech, and they who are observant of zakah, and they who guard their private parts except from their wives or those their right hands possess, for indeed, they will not be blamed” (Qur’an 23:1-6).
“ISIS Forcefully Circumcised Assyrian Christian Men in Mosul, Sold 700 Yazidi Women,” AINA, August 18, 2014
(AINA) — The Tunisia Daily is reporting that the Islamic State (ISIS) forcefully circumcised Assyrian men in Mosul, without anesthesia. The report does not specify the number of men that were affected but does state that it was an organized mass circumcision. ISIS has ordered the circumcision of all Christian children and adults who remain in Mosul.
Very few Assyrian Christians stayed in Mosul after ISIS gave them a deadline to convert, pay jizya, leave or die (AINA 2014-07-20).
The report also states that ISIS sold 700 Yazidi women for $150 each in a public slave auction in Mosul.
John C. Barile says
Hey, Voeg:
I hate Islam, too. I see no reason to rail against Muslims, even if I’m wary of any one of them who sees himself as a slave and foot soldier of Allah.
I, like Wellington, admired the intellectual prowess of Benedict XVI. Francis falls short, but I don’t see any reason to rail against him, either.
Your hissy fits about “JW softies” are silly, BTW.
Again, I hate Islam and all it spawns. I hate the “caliphate.”
John C. Barile says
V: How ’bout a ten-year hudna?
pong says
The same as saying: I hate terror, but see no reason to rail agenst terrorists.
John C. Barile says
It’s a losing proposition to open a broad attack on Muslims solely on account of being Muslim. I don’t care if they pray five times a day or not. I do care when they cross the line and start to enjoin their ideas on me, thinking that Allah enjoins them to be his enforcers–oh, then, I shouldn’t use the word “cross” if I’m ever so craven as to yield to them.
John C. Barile says
I do, in fact, rail against terrorism. I hate Islam insofar as it is intolerant, supremacist, oppressive, and morally disordered. And I certainly rail against Islamic intolerance, supremacism, oppression, and moral disorder. Likewise, against Islamic bigots, supremacists, oppressors, and criminal psychopaths.
I won’t categorically condemn all Muslims because it’s an untenable position. I attempt to avoid injustice to any individual while opposing a hateful ideology held by many within a designated group.
Jaladhi says
What about the buyers of these “slaves”??? The buyers are just as guilty as the seller ISIS jihadis. Only goes to show that all Muslims are part of jihadi movements.
You would not meet any Muslim who doesn’t like jihad. They are all in this together and here the West is in search of peaceful moderate Muslims!! What a laugh – these morons of the West!!
dumbledoresarmy says
Yep. I want to know who the *buyers* are.
I wonder how many of those poor girls will finish up in harems in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Dubai…??
Islam: the cult of sacralised slavery, sacralised pimping, sacralised rape (including gang-rape-of-minor-girls-unto-death) and sacralised sadism.
Sunil Chaurasia says
I agree with your views. But …….? If it is possible to change course of these misguided missles.
Richie says
Muslims just love genital mutilation
bernie says
The term “female circumcizion” is a total fraud. It’s GENITAL MUTILATION, pure and simple. And rape is a crime, no matter how one tries to justify or minimize it.
boakai ngombu says
it is a power trip to plow and rip without concern for another’s pain and humiliation
Jay Boo says
Exactly
The power trip is based on a cruel hoax.
Islam is full of hateful gimmicks and stunts in order to hide its shallow emptiness built on easily revealed flaws.
CogitoErgoSum says
Per the bidding of their master, they mock God.
gravenimage says
Islamic State forcibly circumcises Christian men, sells 700 Yazidi women
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Remember when dhimmis were sneering at the idea of forced female “circumcision” in the Islamic State recently?
I imagine they will be very, very quiet about this.
And what could be more Islamic than selling Infidel girls and women into sex slavery?
God, I hate Islam.
onisac says
If every Muslim, ever heard the truth about other religions they’d apostate from Islam. That is why all these cults keep trying to cloud the truth with taqiyya. The Qur’an encourages the us of taqiyya, to preserve Islam’s 1400 year old Trojan Horse.
Please don’t write to your congressman and ask his opinion. Hell simply ask a Muslim his opinion. Which will spun even more taqiyya.
Never trust a Muslims word for any reason. Taqiyya and slavery are very real in Islam, to keep the oldest lies ever told masked over, and make money.
gravenimage says
Onisac, I don’t believe that the primary use of Taqiyya is to hide the truth about Islam from *other Muslims*, but to hide it from Infidels so that they will not realize the danger of Islam until it is too late.
Beagle says
Another day, another IS horror.
How is it an “auction” if the price is always the same? I think they mean slave market. Slavery being openly practiced in 2014 and broadcast around the world instantaneously by proud purveyors of it. Who saw that coming 25 years ago? Not me.
Those familiar with the Saudis may have suspected it was possible. Saudi Arabia only grudgingly ‘got rid’ of slavery in 1962 in order to improve its image with some in the West. Yet a search of “Saudi slavery” turns up a great deal recently.
Ironic says
Thousands of newborn male children are forcibly circumcised without anesthesia everyday in the United States. Are we only supposed to be outraged when the Muslims do it?
Beagle says
By force, to adults? Yes, yes we are.
Just A Concerned Citizen says
So then, respectfully, at what age does a male become a human being worthy of basic human rights, including bodily integrity?
pumbar says
My moral equivalence meter just crapped out. Maybe the batteries need changing?
gravenimage says
Agreed, Pumbar.
conceited_ape@hotmail.com says
Naturally. Otherwise, we would surely be antisemites, donchaknow.
vickie says
circumcision has health benefits
http://www.webmd.com/sexual-conditions/guide/circumcision
A decreased risk of urinary tract infections.
A reduced risk of sexually transmitted diseases in men.
Protection against penile cancer and a reduced risk of cervical cancer in female sex partners.
Prevention of balanitis (inflammation of the glans) and balanoposthitis (inflammation of the glans and foreskin).
Prevention of phimosis (the inability to retract the foreskin) and paraphimosis (the inability to return the foreskin to its original location).
http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/prevention/research/malecircumcision/
Male circumcision reduces the risk that a man will acquire HIV from an infected female partner, and also lowers the risk of other STDs , penile cancer, and infant urinary tract infection.
For female partners, male circumcision reduces the risk of cervical cancer, genital ulceration, bacterial vaginosis, trichomoniasis, and HPV. Although male circumcision has risks including pain, bleeding, and infection, more serious complications are rare.
I have actually seen hundreds of babies SLEEP through circumcision.
Now to circumcise a man – a whole different story!!
vickie says
That was health benefits for men.
There are no health benefits for female circumcision.
pong says
Vickie, there is one more benefit for men. I have circumcised many adults and all of them repoted improvement in sexual life following circumcision.
Bezelel says
I’ve always told the Jewish girls it makes me Kosher.
Just A Concerned Citizen says
Respectfully, no–babies do not “sleep” through the procedure, and to put it mildly, it’s disingenuous to persist in claiming that it does.
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/moral-landscapes/201109/myths-about-circumcision-you-likely-believe
While I could refute every item on this list above point by point (and quite a list it was–one might think you were protesting something a bit too much…), I do accept that I can’t make you nor anyone else read, let alone learn, anything you don’t wish to. I think we can all relate to that when it comes to Islam, for one. Still, it’s bemusing that I don’t have to be a woman to understand why female genital cutting is wrong.
vickie says
I personally have witnessed babies sleeping through the procedure.
shosh7154 says
The circumcision of the male at 8 days is a covenant with G-d to follow His Law and cling to Him only. Doing this automatically greatly enhances and gives new life or vigor to the physical and renews a right spirit in man. If only we would just do what HE says in every area of life. I love YOU Adonai. Please L-rd make a way for everyone even today to follow Your Law and cling only to YOU, G-d of Israel, bashem Yeshua amein.
Just A Concerned Citizen says
Respectfully, the sons of Jews deserve bodily integrity and their basic human rights, just as Jewish daughters do (and everyone else, for that matter). Arguing the case otherwise is what’s truly “antisemitic.”
D. Fulk says
Thanks for that Vicki.. As compared to female genital mutilation which was purely invented so that women would not go astray and they would never enjoy sex!!!! Wow how many muslim couples might actually find some small piece of happiness or statisfaction from their miserable lives because their wives actually enjoyed their sexual encounters rather than experiencing chronic pain. Young girls have died from their botched genital mutilation. What civilized human being thinks this is a good idea? There are no health benefits only trauma, debilitation, humiliation, pain and suffering. Life of the young muslim girl even in Europe today: genital mutilation by 3, then shipped off to the home country for years of brainwashing/”schooling” and then shipped back to Europe for arranged marriage age 11 or 12 to start breeding more of the same sheeples. How does this change? It doesn’t 🙁
H.D.Carver says
You honestly see an equivalency here?
Jay Boo says
Soon Vickie, ping pong, and others will be touting the weight loss benefits of having Muslims perform a beheading.
Not that I am implying that there is anything wrong with the Islamic State forcefully beheading people (sarc)
Let this be a cautionary tale of becoming infected with equivalence disease to those people who read too much Huff Post.
Just A Concerned Citizen says
Well, I’m sure that would all depend on the victims. Were they male or female?
semeru says
Oh dear, there is something wrong with this photo, look careful, see the little girl dressed in yellow sitting on the cabin of the truck, See the sign she is holding, it is a black hand on a yellow back ground. so two questions arise, what is the Moslem Brotherhood doing in Mosul? why are is it the Moslem Brother hood symbol instead of the IS symbol
The photo has nothing to do with slavery. It was taken during a protest of 21 women and girls from the “7 am” movement sent to prison ranging from 11 to 15 years.
The 7 am movement was formed in October to protest the ouster of former President Mohamed Morsi on July 3, which they describe as a coup by the military. They also see the interim government as illegitimate.
SpiritOf1683 says
This is Islam as it is, and this would be a reality in Britain had Charles Martel not been victorious at Tours. The more you see of Islam in action, the more grateful we should be of Martel, Pelayo, Jan Sobieski, Johannes Graf von Salm, De la Valette, Prince Eugene of Savoy and a hell of a lot more. The world would be a barbaric sinkhole like the Islamic world with the ISIS and Boko Haram savages running riot.
D. Fulk says
Amen!!!
John C. Barile says
You’re right; but that’s beside the point. An editor has to scramble to find a visual image to underscore his–horrific–point, and IS hasn’t chosen to visually advertise this latest “enterprise” of theirs–
dumbledoresarmy says
above, the mohammedan pounces on the picture and ignores the *story*.
And as for the Ikhwan versus ISIS…so what? The goal is the same. Total World Domination. Imposition of the sharia on every human being on earth. Which would be a reign of demons made manifest on earth; a festival of sadism.
It’s all the same damn bloody Islam.
Coptic Christian girls – including minors – were persistently – to the tune of hundreds a year, and possibly more – seized and “disappeared” and raped and force-“converted” to Islam, with the bland connivance of the state and the police, who did sweet damn all to stop it and *nothing* to pursue or punish the perps, under Mubarak, and under Morsi (when it accelerated) and I’d hazard the guess it’s still going Not in big groups all at once, but it’s been going on for *years*. Muslims treat dhimmi or de facto dhimmi populations as if they were prey animals, to be predated at will, for fun and profit.
And that is why I DESPISE Islam and view the Ummah or Mohammedan Mob as a menace to the rest of humanity.
ECAW says
So Jay Boo says never mind the words, look at the photo.
Dumbledoresarmy says never mind the photo, look at the words.
If Semeru is right and the photo is not showing girls on their way to a slave market in Mosul then it is misleading and shouldn’t be used to illustrate the story.
Bezelel says
That’s not a Mardi Gras parade.
ECAW says
Jihadski – It was your idiotic comment I was going to let go by, not dumbledoresarmy’s which I did respond to on account of the issue of accuracy. If you had clicked on the original photo you would have seen “…girlsontheirwaytoslavemarketinMosul.jpg” (or something like that – I don’t recall the precise wording).
I’m reassured to see that the photo has now been replaced by something less specific, confirming my trust that Spencer would put right a mistake.
ECAW says
Jihadski – as I just wrote, it was your comment which I was going to let go by because it was too ridiculous to engage with:
“Oh, ok. Whatever.
But Hey! Also never mind that the photo depicts…ummm…let’s see…what is it?
Oh! Right!
WOMEN IN A CAGE WITH MEN FOLLOWING ALONG!
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Never mind that. And never mind that ISIS has openly admitted to selling women into slavery and chopping off the heads of husbands and using them for soccer balls. Got it! Let’s just ignore the reams and reams of videos all over the internet depicting such barbaric actions”
If you see no meaningful distinction between a picture presented as women being to a slave market in Mosul and a picture of Egyptian women being taken to jail over another matter then it’s clearly impossible to have any sensible discussion with you and it’s best to ignore your comment.
It’s this bit that pissed me off enough to make me point out your confusion:
“and instead, smear Spencer for “spicing up the story”.
Semeru says
Firstly I am not a mohammedan.
The Spencer has used the picture to spiced up the story, most people will look at the picture and assume the image is related to the article.
It has nothing to do with the article
http://goo.gl/6KxLlU
On further investigating the article, the claim that chritian men where circumcised is very very suspect
Spencer uses an article from a Tunisian site which quotes a press conference from Chredo (Coordination of Eastern Christians in Danger)
Niether Spencer or the gullible DDA cannot do a simple verification. One only has to look at Chredo web-site and find there is absolutely no mention of circumcision.
http://goo.gl/0IVKoT
But Chredo does link to an article “In Mosul, 700 women yazidies were sold in a public place $ 150 piece …”
But again no mention of circumcision
http://goo.gl/oMJwa6
Champ says
Firstly I am not a mohammedan.
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Secondly, “semeru” is not a team player either …
One thing is for certain …he’s annoying as hell.
Semeru says
Especially when I am right.
Spencer has used the photo so as to illustrate the plight of the Yazidis. Most people who look at the image and feel sympathy towards the women pictured. Over time people will associate the image with slavery, thus the truth will be forgotten, the women in the image are from the Muslim Brotherhood, and do not deserve any sympathy what os ever.
So DDA slags me for pointing out the truth behind the image. Using an unrelated image only takes away the credibility of the article.
Mr Spencer has chosen to replace the image, because I was right. So for all of DDA,s huffing, copy pasting and puffing she cannot identify a false image.
Wow Listen to the professor. maybe he has not heard the expression, a picture is worth a thousand words. So an image has a major function in bringing a clarity to an article, but as in this case can be very misleading.
ooooh yes, it is so called seasoned jihad watchers who criticize me
Just look at the link below, and you can see how the self elected leaders (Spencer/Geller) of the counter jihad movement at best get it wrong, or at worst are pulling the wool over your eyes.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/08/hamas-funeral-the-undead
gravenimage says
Semeru, as usual, is trying to distract attention away from Muslim savagery—or to imply that it doesn’t really exist.
Michael Copeland says
“Slavery is a part of Islam. Slavery is part of jihad, and jihad will remain as long there is Islam.”
Sheikh Saleh Al-Fawzan, professor, imam and eminent Saudi scholar
http://libertygb.org.uk/v1/index.php/home/root/news-libertygb/6417-slavery-is-part-of-islam-muslims-speak
pumbar says
Disgusting barbarians.
Champ says
Ditto
Bezelel says
I can’t understand how such insanity finds enough willing co signers to cause so much trouble. It has happened historically and we fight world wars to stamp it out and then now we say F that. Let’s just make excuses for it. If Hitler had claimed nazi was a religion and custom would we still be stuck with it?
duh_swami says
Attacking your genitals with a knife as a infant, or any teen or adult against their will, is a lesson about who is in charge here.
Certainly not you…Circumcision is practiced mostly by religious people who have a foreskin covenant with God, and N America which is not a religion. I have always wondered how ‘David’ went about collecting 200 foreskins of Philistine men…I wonder how many soldiers it took to accomplish that?
onisac says
If every Muslim, ever heard the truth about other religions they’d apostate from Islam. That is why all these cults keep trying to cloud the truth with taqiyya. The Qur’an encourages the us of taqiyya, to preserve Islam’s 1400 year old Trojan Horse.
Please don’t write to your congressman and ask his opinion. Hell simply ask a Muslim his opinion. Which will spun even more taqiyya.
Never ask a Muslim for any reason. They are encouraged to lie, to preserve Islam. Taqiyya and slavery are very real in Islam, to keep the oldest lies ever told masked over, and make money. You could call taqiyya Islam’s greatest weapon.
Mohammed says
Hey folks its just disgusting make no sense to read this articles. Its all about hatred word to divide the people. This is how the media does…. if this militants are doing the same with the civilians as per this fake sources.. Really being a Muslim i am very against with this practice and behavior of ISIS but i don’t believe it the reality is kept hidden no such things are happened if at all its true . Then why Obama is not making sound against Israel the real culprits and the real terrorist who are killing the muslim civilians with no humanity. They have been kicked out from Germany while the Palestinians have showed mercy upon them and gave them the place and in return they are occupying their own land that to US is supporting them. why there is no news about US has send drone to attack Israel ah….
SpiritOf1683 says
Once again a Mohammedan reveals his true barbaric colours. Israel is fighting in self-defence to make sure its people don’t get murdered by the cold-haearted Hamas Muslim barbarians. You are a typical bitter antisemitic Muslim from a death cult which only gives the world barbarianism whilst Jews give us medical breakthroughs.
gravenimage says
Mohammed wrote:
Hey folks its just disgusting make no sense to read this articles. Its all about hatred word to divide the people.
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So opposing slavery and genocide is “hatred”? *This* is how a pious Muslim thinks.
More:
This is how the media does…. if this militants are doing the same with the civilians as per this fake sources.
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There have been a *flood* of stories from the Islamic State of mass beheadings, mass rape, demands for Jizya, sex slavery, and genocide—many posted by ISIS themselves. Are we to believe that these are all “fake sources”? What crap.
More:
Really being a Muslim i am very against with this practice and behavior of ISIS but i don’t believe it the reality is kept hidden no such things are happened if at all its true .
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Well, this is incoherent—but what else would one expect?
More:
Then why Obama is not making sound against Israel the real culprits and the real terrorist who are killing the muslim civilians with no humanity. They have been kicked out from Germany while the Palestinians have showed mercy upon them and gave them the place and in return they are occupying their own land that to US is supporting them. why there is no news about US has send drone to attack Israel ah….
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The usual crap—that Jews are the “real terrorists” in trying to stave off Muslim genocide. It is also the usual implication that Jews never lived in the Holy Land—what ahistoric rot.
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Semeru says
Not only the original source of this article does not mention circumcision
http://goo.gl/0IVKoT
http://goo.gl/oMJwa6
But the link that that ANIA quotes, The Tunisia Daily report that the Islamic State (ISIS) forcefully circumcised Assyrian men in Mosul, without anesthesia, no longer exists
http://www.tunisiadaily.com/2014/08/16/irak-circoncisions-de-chretiens-et-700-femmes-yazidies-vendues-a-150-dollars-piece
Gardener says
If some Assyrians in Mosul didn’t pay the jizya and didn’t want to flee but instead agreed to go along and convert to Islam, then they will have been circumcised. Conversion leads to consequences, and the IS certainly wouldn’t just take the converts’ word for it but would enroll them in IS lectures and get them circumcised among other things. So it is very much possible that “former” Christians could be forcibly circumcised by the IS.
On the other hand, for the IS to circumcise openly believing Christians doesn’t really make any sense at all. Considering the Islamic State is quite logical in what it does, the story doesn’t seem credible. What would be the motive? The IS already gave the Christians the usual options of conversion, jizya, leaving, and death.
The Tunisia Daily article does still exist, and here is what it says in the end: “Reached by phone, other witnesses reported that the Islamic State has ordered the circumcision of Christian children and adults who have stayed in Mosul. Mass circumcisions have been organized by the IS hordes; adult Christians have been circumcised without any anaesthesia.”
So I would go back to my first point and say the story is true with the caveat that they are circumcising Christians who agreed to convert to Islam, and if a father agreed to convert to Islam, it follows that his boys would be circumcised as well.
Richie says
Given the fact muslims love to kill and cause pain, odds are the men were circumcized with a very dull pair of scissors
Given the homosexual nature of much of islam (the tendency to regard women as mere breeding stock and males as a source of sexual pleasure), perhaps the mandatory circumcision law was an excuse the Muslims made to touch, suckle and ultimately mutilate as many penises that they could grab on to
Islam clearly promotes an carries out slavery- where is the worldwide condemnation??