Why would they destroy a mosque? Because it was the wrong kind of mosque: a mosque for those Rafidite dogs, the Shia. The Islamic State jihadis believe that Shi’ites are apostates and heretics and thus must be killed, and their mosques destroyed. This is not “extremism”: all the schools of Islamic jurisprudence mandate death for apostates and heretics.
Note also the photo, which accompanied this story at al Arabiya, and depicts Iraqi security forces with a captured Islamic State flag. Note that it is the same flag that New Jersey Muslim Mark Dunaway was flying outside his house, in contradiction to Hamas-linked CAIR’s claims.
“ISIS militants destroy Shiite mosque, execute muezzin,” Agence France-Presse, August 15, 2014:
Islamist militants blew up a Shiite prayer hall in the Iraqi town of Jalawla on Friday and publicly executed the muezzin, witnesses and a regional police chief said.
Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS) fighters detained the muezzin, who calls for Muslim prayers, and blew up the Jalawla husseiniyah, a term used for a Shiite place of worship.
“Then they shot him dead in front of his mosque,” said the police official for Diyala province, northeast of Baghdad.
Witnesses confirmed the execution, which came four days after ISIS militants wrested control of the town from Kurdish Peshmerga forces following two of deadly fighting.
In Sayed Ahmad village north of Jalawla, ISIS fighters also executed six policemen, the same sources said.
Kurdish forces lost at least 10 fighters in the battle for Jalawla, a strategic choke-point 130 kilometers northeast of Baghdad.
The ISIS’s Sunni extremist fighters conquered large swathes of Iraq’s Sunni heartland in June, while Diyala province is mixed
jihad3tracker says
As expert Robert Spencer writes, “extremism” is the wrong word to describe Sunni-upon-Shia violent acts …. And all rest of Sunni pathology.
Perhaps JW readers here can come up with a better term and catchy phrase and acronyms that our clueless mainstream media will latch on to.
My suggestions ? Glad you asked.
Howzabout “Islamic activism”, “fully faithful Muslim” — [ FFM ], “perfectly believing jihadist” — [ PBJ ].
But the last one above involves an harmless classic sandwich, leading to widespread panic and plummeting sales in the peanut butter & jelly industry.
Oliver says
The middle one FFM
Jay Boo says
Two Amish girls were kidnapped and sexually abused.
MUSLIMS (and their atheist cohorts) ARE INDIRECTLY AT FAULT.
The Muslim influenced Hollywood atheist inspired anti-Christian cultural influence that would sexualize and delegitimize the Amish proves conclusively that the Muslim agenda is geared toward attacking Christianity in any way possible.
Hollywood appeases and grovels before CAIR Muslims with deep pockets.
Yet they scapegoat the Amish.
These leftist atheists are constantly trying to ingratiate themselves and show groveling reverence toward Muslims by hurling insults and cowardly attacks at Christianity.
Nothing but a pack of hedonistic subservient atheist lapdogs doing the spiteful bidding of Muslims.
Jovial Joe says
Atheist shouldn’t mean anti-Christian I agree; it should simply mean absent Christianity.
enwhitenment says
I think you will find that atheists tend to think of the whole lot combined as Abrahammaniacs.
The point is atheists do not believe in gods and therefore do not think about gods.
The point is that you will not ever hear the voice of a true atheist because he just does not care in fact he probably does not even notice you exist.
While it may be entertaining for a while to watch the god botherers accuse each other of being wrong and in Satan’s service your pathetic battles for supremacy are ruining the short lives of millions of innocent people.
The world would be a much better place if you all just made the move to your next life and leave us to enjoy this one.
Rick says
And in the end these Muslims would kill these atheists since they’re infidels. They would kill those among them that are LGBT too.
Oliver says
The middle one FFM
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paddy says
When the ‘troubles’ in Northern Ireland between Catholic and Protestant were particularly bad, it was referred to as religious sectarianism.
Jovial Joe says
Observant Muslim Gang (OMG!)
jihad3tracker says
Excellent, JJ ! ! ! Keep them coming ….
voegelinian says
I notice a theme with all these recommended acronyms by which to denote the problematic Muslims — it’s located in the qualifying adverb/adjective, thus:
“fully faithful Muslim” — [ FFM ]
“perfectly believing jihadist” — [ PBJ ]
Observant Muslim Gang — [ OMG ]
The problem with these qualifications is the implied exemption of likely millions of Muslims who ostensibly may seem to be not fully faithful, not perfectly believing, not observant; and so forth. This wouldn’t be much of a problem if there weren’t the rampant, mainstream, venerable and orthodox culture of taqiyya in Islam, rendering such a speculative distinction implied by those qualifications not only worthless, but positively dangerous for our safety.
Jay Boo says
voegelinian
perhaps
or maybe you might be over thinking this.
Bro. Nick says
PLEASE – do not use ‘Observant Muslim Gang’
– for the abbreviation is blasphemy against “the LORD GOD” who is “God”
Bro. Nick
Jovial Joe says
Respectfully, I will use it if I so choose since I have a stronger faith in the freedom of speech than I do your personal deity. So may I ask instead that you respect that.
Jay Boo says
Bro. Nick
I have read some of your other comments.
I don’t often criticize Christians but I suspect that you are a bit full of it.
My best guess is — possibly one step away from Westboro Baptist insanity.
Then again I could be wrong.
Rezali Mehil says
The IS (Islamic Sunnis) blew up the Jalawla husseiniyah…Bloody Bastard retards.
Even if no one else knows it or not I want JWers to know, see and acknowledge the distinct difference between the Shia and the retarded sunni.
Despite her very best efforts…Graven (and her sisters in arms DDA and Mirren) cannot say that we are just like the sunnis…because we are not…never have been and never will be.
On Jumma the muezzin was publicly executed , witnesses and a regional police chief said.
Thank you muezzin for staying at your post …you did not run like the Yazadi or the pesh merga…. may you find the spirit of Hussain and the hidden imam in jannat …my saluation to you sir.
I am too upset to write any more for now….but
More Later ….
Rezali
RonaldB says
Rezali,
You mention the difference between the Sunnis and the Shia.
But, what about the atrocities in Shia Iran, the execution of Ba’hai’s, suppression of dissent, the constant threats towards Israel because Israel is a Jewish state?
Note that Saudi Arabia, a Sunni state, has declared the Muslim Brotherhood, the most institutionalized expression of Sunni Islam, to be a terrorist organization. The Muslim Brotherhood supports the dissolution of any nationalist government, which threatens the extremely national and extremely autocratic government of Saudi Arabia.
I’ll grant you that the Shia are less likely to kill Sunnis because they are heretics than the Sunnis are to kill Shias as heretics.
My preference is that the US had kept hands off, left Saddam Hussein in power, and sat idly as Hussein suppressed Islamic fanatics who didn’t have the sense to keep their mouths shut. The Shi’a would not have been able to flagellate themselves publicly during Ashura, but they would be alive…at least those ones not stupid enough to express opposition to Hussein.
Beagle says
“may you find the spirit of Hussain and the hidden imam in jannat”
Wait, so he’s not in the well? This is so confusing.
Mirren10 says
”Despite her very best efforts…Graven (and her sisters in arms DDA and Mirren) cannot say that we are just like the sunnis…because we are not…never have been and never will be”
Har de har har ! PMSL here !
http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/11/24/iraq.main/
(and plenty more where that came from).
”The IS (Islamic Sunnis) blew up the Jalawla husseiniyah…Bloody Bastard retards”
What’s wrong, rezali. me old son ? It was only a few days ago you were ‘salivating’ at the thought of IS victorious, and you didn’t seem to mind at all being murdered by sunnis, so long as it advanced the cause ! 🙂
”may you find the spirit of Hussain and the hidden imam in jannat”
I thought the ‘hidden imam” was supposed to be skulking down some well or other ? You just can’t seem to keep your stories straight, you mohammedans.
”I am too upset to write any more for now…. ”
Awww, diddums !
The more mohammedans murder each other, the better. Carry on up the Shiite ! (and the sunni, and the ahmadi, and the ismailis, and the … well, you get the drift !)
More later, chumbawumba ! 🙂
Mirren10 says
And more, again ! Carry on up the Khyber ! 🙂
http://www.religionnews.com/2014/02/03/sunni-shiite-violence-soars-pakistan/
duh_swami says
From the kuffar point of view, while there are some ritual differences, Sunni and shia are joined at the hip by Quran, and the examples of Mahound. There is no essential difference between you.
gravenimage says
Rezali Mehil wrote:
The IS (Islamic Sunnis) blew up the Jalawla husseiniyah…Bloody Bastard retards.
………………………………..
Of course these killers are savages—but why should Rezali Mehil be surprised? They are, after all, pious Muslims…
Poor Rezali—she has, as Mirren ably notes, schizophrenically see-sawed between gloating over the rise of the Caliphate and the threat it represents to Infidels, and condemning the Sunnis when they have targeted hr fellow Shia.
It must be terribly confusing for her, being unable—like all pious Muslims—to apply reason to any issue.
More:
Even if no one else knows it or not I want JWers to know, see and acknowledge the distinct difference between the Shia and the retarded sunni.
Despite her very best efforts…Graven (and her sisters in arms DDA and Mirren) cannot say that we are just like the sunnis…because we are not…never have been and never will be.
………………………………..
Actually, except for a few cosmetic differences in doctrine and ritual, Shia and Sunnis are *virtually identical*—including, or course, in their oppression and violence toward one another.
Shi’ite-majority Iran systematically oppresses Sunnis, and Sunnis regularly oppress and brutalize Shia.
Both consider the other sect “heretical”, and hence fair game for the most savage mistreatment.
And note: you will never find Rezali Mehil condemning the genocide against Christians and Yazidis in the Islamic State—that she heartily approves of.
More, to Mark X:
Mark X…
Go play with your willy on a motorway during rush hour…
go and play with your willy on the underground …go on electrify
Go do any of things …and get lost to have your 72 rasins…you retarded sunni
………………………………..
More absurdity—Mark X is not Sunni—he is not Muslim at all.
And note that she is taunting him about “72 rasins” (sic).
One might assume that she is disavowing the idea that violent Jihadists get rewarded with virgin “hoors” in paradise, but one would be wrong.
Shi’ites often like to twit Sunnis over the precise number “72”, which they appear to find reductive. They make a great point of this specific number being from a Sunni Hadith, and having no basis in the Qur’an.
Generally, the Shi’ite vision tend to be even more expansive.
Just Google it, and you will run across countless tedious online chats on the topic.
But this is, likely, yet another distinction without a real difference, since semi-literate Muslims almost certainly use “72” to mean a “whole bunch”.
In the end, both sects believe that homicidal Muslims are rewarded with eternally virginal rape victims in their ugly “paradise”. *Ugh*.
Myxlplik says
From my personal experience Shia Muslims are way, way less creepy than Sunnis.
This probably has to do with the Shia not following the Sunna. I can honestly say I’ve had friends who are Shia. I think it’s tragic that Persians we conquered by lunacy of Islam.
I have hope for Persians, and have been ridiculed here before on this issue, but like Robert has said in his literature. In Shia Islam the texts are still open to theological review, so a reformation of the faith is more likely for Shia than Sunni. So yes, Shia are less retarded than Sunni, but tragically still Muslim.
Best regards.
Jay Boo says
A Paradox
While what you say makes perfect sense, followers of the Shi’a cult flog themselves silly trying to out-Muslim the Sunni Muslims.
Jay Boo says
I must admit that they are nice folks though when they are in the Persian frame of mind.
voegelinian says
“way less creepy” is irrelevant to whether they will kill us.
paddy says
Are you on drugs?
Jay Boo says
We must all agree with Rezali
It is not the same that which cooks and that which drips from the Islam frying pan.
The drippings of Islam
RonaldB says
The natural inclination of Muslims is to kill anyone not in their family, tribe, sect, or religion.
The Middle Eastern governments uniformly had to use repressive measures to suppress the natural tendencies of their Muslims.
The United States and its allies in Europe made the huge mistake of thinking a democratic government in the Muslim Middle East would be more stable than an autocracy or dictatorship. Thus, the US supported the overthrow of undemocratic but stable leaders like Gaddafi, Mubarak, Saddam Hussein, and Assad. The resulting anarchy resulted in mass slaughter, the universal persecution of Christians, and the Islamic state, a sort of robber baron fiefdom.
The most beneficial position the US could have taken would be to manage the more threatening aspects of the dictatorships, and to not look for a democratic solution. For example, the US used it’s air superiority and military power in the area to coerce Saddam Hussein to keep his hands off the Kurdish state, to not develop nuclear or chemical weapons, and to cede control of the air to US planes. He was a constant irritant, but otherwise served the useful function of suppressing the murderous impulses of the Muslims he ruled, and also balanced Iran nicely.
Similarly, Assad in Syria protected Christians. He also provided a relatively stable society, where you were in danger only if you revolted against the government or openly criticized the government. Again, the Syrian government was preferable to any conceivable alternative, by any stretch of the imagination, other than the imagination of the doctrinaire leftists and elitists at the US State department.
We will continue to get unspeakable mass atrocities in the Middle East, and probably other places in the world, as long as government leaders and decision-makers consider their abstract ideas to be more important than reality.
The proper way of dealing with the situation would be t
Beagle says
This is a hilariously meaningful time to run out of space. Ah “…o dust off and nuke it from orbit. It’s the only way to be sure.”? 🙂
Bezelel says
It was just getting good, please continue.
RonaldB says
HaHa. Sorry.
The proper way of dealing with the situation would be to stop trying to remake Middle Eastern governments, especially while operating under the illusion that transplanting our own government structure would function well here. Our own founding fathers explicitly stated that our constitution would serve only with a well-educated polity devoted to the idea of liberty. By the way, well-educated is not the same as well-schooled, by any means. Education comes through reading and writing; schooling comes from sitting in a classroom.
Anyway, the Middle East would be incalculably better if the US had not tried to shape its governments. The Shah would not be thrust into power in 1953, only to lose it to a revolutionary Shi’ite government. Mubarak would still be holding onto a corrupt but stable government in Egypt, and many Christian churches now burned would still be safe. Saddam Hussein would still be feeding his opponents into paper shredders, but the Iraquis smart enough to stay out of politics would be relatively safe, as would Iraq’s neighbors, under the protection of US planes. A couple of hundred thousand Syrians now dead would still be alive, including a sizable Christian community. We would not now be looking at a spawning grounds in Iraq and Syria for Jihadists so horrific they shock even al-Qaeda.
For the Middle East the proper treatment is symptom relief and isolation: slap down any government that gets too aggressive to its neighbors, like Iraq in Kuwait, and under no circumstances whatsoever, allow further Muslim immigration. Let the governments of Muslim countries oppress its citizens, as they know that’s the only way to control the Koran-inspired fanaticism of most Muslims.
Bezelel says
The “classrooms” telling people what to think instead of teaching them how to think. Social engineering, but to what end? islam isn’t o the PC doctrine. They are levering their way to the top assisted by the PC’s who by the way are on islams menu. Call me crazy but I ain’t signing up for that shiite.
Have Mercy says
Great post. You give me hope that there those who see the folly of American policy. Unfortunately, your message is probably wasted on several of the regulars who drank the coolaid a long time ago. I conveyed a similar message on this very site before the launch of the 2003 invasion and after I came from supporting the troops in Iraq. Hugh Fitzgerald who was a staunch neocon would not have it and the regulars parroted his ideological stances. I left this site for years in disgust. I must be a sucker for punishment for coming back.
RonaldB says
Hi Have Mercy,
I have to confess something. I supported the 2003 invasion of Iraq at the time. I did listen to opponents, but i thought it would be a good thing, considering the nature of the Hussein regime.
However, I, unlike some governments I could name, do learn from experience. As one observed the dissolution of Iraq, and the mass killings there, it became obvious that the suppression and brutalities of the Hussein government were far superior to the alternative.
Similarly in Afghanistan, the frustrating thing is that our troops went there to avenge 9/11 and did a good job. They actually had Osama bin Laden penned in at Tora Bora. The command decided in the name of “supporting our allies in nation-building”, the Northern Alliance, the job of capturing bin Laden would be left to the alliance troops…who let him get away.
Our special forces also struck a decisive blow against the Taliban, positioning themselves to direct devastating air strikes, and decimating the Taliban armies.
In my opinion, the proper course would have been to kill bin Laden ourselves, decimate the Taliban, hand over a few rifles and a couple of billion dollars to our Northern Alliance “allies”, and leave. If they lose again to the Taliban, so what? After losing most of their forces, the Taliban would probably conclude it’s better to not mess with the US, and would probably not support al-Qaeda. Reading the history of the region, a lot of the Taliban leaders had their doubts about the presence of al-Qaeda anyway, correctly seeing them as Arab imperialists.
And yes, the Taliban would be horrible for the people of Afghanistan. So what? It’s not the job of the US government to protect oppressed people in the world. It’s the job of the US government to protect the US. The proper action for a Muslim who wants to get away from the oppression of Islam is to leave Islam. There is no other way.
By the way, Have Mercy, I don’t know what you did to support the troops in Iraq, but please accept my heartfelt thanks for whatever you did. Our troops are the very best people in the US, far superior to the political leaders who determine their fate.
Jay Boo says
What does IRAN have to say?
Do they know all of Islam is a disgraceful fake?
Here is a reminder to awak.
You Iranians are not Muslims, not truly.
You are a conquered people who hide your subservient status to Saudi Arabia’s Sunni Islam
with syrupy sentimentality toward a lineage of Arab masters. You are merely Islamic slaves who try to paint over Sunni Arab shackles to appear as if Persian bracelets. Why do you bother to stand and celebrate the Persian New Year when you still crawl in submission to Islam and bow toward Mecca?
(The enemy of my enemy is my friend routine)
Yes, the regime squabbles with the Saudis and other Sunnis.
But they still seek Sunni approval to validate their Muslim wannabe status.
The 1979 Revolution, the fatwas to ‘defend’ Islam and the stoning of adulterers was more about ingratiating themselves with their Sunni Islam neighbors than it was about confronting the “evil” West.
It has become all too embarrassingly obvious to Mecca and throughout all of Islam that Iran’s insecure dress-wearing turban-headed Ayatollahs are just pleading to say, ‘I did a good thing, huh’ to the rest of the Islamic world. Ayatollah Khamenei is just the latest in a long line of Islamic ideology administrators after the conquest of Persia. Lap-dog groveling for Islamic approval can no longer be camouflaged beneath layers of pompous violence for Allah, and willful passive-aggressive Holocaust denial.
The Iranian regime’s uncouth veil is wearing quite thin.
Although many Iranians truly hate Islam, they won’t admit it to themselves. Rather than accept this truth, they pretend that they are Muslim by choice.
Iran is an ideologically-dhimmi nation in denial and Iranians are caught firmly in the grip of Sunni imposed ‘Stockholm Syndrome’
In other words.
The Iranian people are basically decent human beings who have been cruelly imprisoned by overlord Ayatollah puppets of Arab Islam to the point that they now identify and seek ideological approval from their foreign captors for spiritual guidance.
Shia Islam is a fatwa against truth. It is just a ritual submission to Sunni Islam with a face-saving (Islamo- Persian) illusion enabled by pretend Muslim Ayatollah delusions.
Iranians trapped inside denial are like spiders caught within their own web
… So sad … so very sad.
Allah is not God and every Iranian surely knows this.
Allah is just a word, a foreign word and the Koran is nothing but Arab lies conjured up from the reciting of satanic verse.
Iranians, you are not Muslims … admit it; say it with pride.
Beagle says
Obviously the Basij and Pasdaran don’t man themselves or rely on robots, but it does seem like a very large number of Iranians would love to break out of their shackles. But of course when some tried to push, Obama sided with the ayatollahs.
Reality Check says
The good news is that sometimes Muslims forget to kill Christians, Jews and people out of the Book because they start killing each other.
Think I’m cruel? Just think about this: if Sunnis suddenly disappeared from the face of the earth, Shias would be just as capable of killing us and establishing Sharia all over the world because they are Muslims and it’s what Muslims do.
Right now they are too busy surviving against the Sunnis to even contemplate something else.
RonaldB says
“The good news is that sometimes Muslims forget to kill Christians, Jews and people out of the Book because they start killing each other.”
Keep in mind, the Muslims killing other Muslims do it for practice, not for distraction.
With the proper cynicism, the rift between Sunni and Shi’a can be used to advantage. However, it can never be depended on, as a substitute for a strong defense against all Islam. For example, there are persistent reports that Saudi Arabia is covertly complicit in Israeli preparations against a nuclear Iran. So, they Israelis can form alliances with Muslim countries, such as Saudi Arabia, but these alliances are built on shifting sand. Israel had an alliance with Turkey before Turkey went Islamist.
My own position is that I do not want to see any Muslim killed. I prefer to see them under the heel of an authoritarian government, that grinds down any Islamist fanatic (one who is willing to kill immediately). Turkey’s government, up to a few years ago, maintained democratic elements with authoritarian elements, with the objective of maintaining a secular government. Unfortunately, with a majority Muslim population, any democratic elements will sooner or later result in an Islamist government tilting towards sharia.
Islam_Macht_Frei says
In a battle between brute thugs:
1. ALWAYS bet on the Sunnis
2. You NEVER want to be the second-most vicious thug, as the muezzin would attest (Presumably. If he were still alive….)
duh_swami says
They taqfir each other to death when ever possible…That’s because they are too civilized, and it’s against sharia, to murder another pious savage, unless he is pious in the wrong direction, then he can be a target.
abad says
Let all Muslims kill each other off. So long as non-Muslims are not involved – let them do it. They aren’t human anyways
dumbledoresarmy says
OH, they’re humans alright…EVIL humans.
One should *never* underestimate the capacity of members of the human species to do evil willingly, wilfully, persistently and joyfully.
voegelinian says
But remember, they are not especially more evil than any other demographic — as Angemon and his lapdog (and/or vice versa) belligerently remind us time and time again.
Mirren10 says
”They all know who they are, who choose to pretend not to notice and think they are above the fray — Jan, Wellington, et al”
Come off it, voeg.
I didn’t notice you coming to *my* defence, when I was being attacked by the egregious ‘Jay Boo’.
Not that I wanted you to, or needed you to, but it really is the outside of enough that you should feel yourself hard done by because I didn’t leap to *your* defence.
In fact, I don’t remember you coming to **anyone’s* defence. If I’m wrong here, I’m sure you’ll set me straight !
As far as your rows with Mr Jihadski, and Angemon go, if you can’t stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen.
And why don’t you answer their points ? Not being an American, I have no knowledge of your Constitution or laws, but I have a great respect for Wellington’s knowledge of both, and if he opines it can’t be done (deportation of all mohammedans), then clearly you need to explain **exactly** how you think it would/could be done, otherwise you’re just blowing hot air. Nothing wrong with that, really, if you’re just stating it as a ”consummation devoutly to be wished”, but if you are serious, then you need to come up with some practical ideas.
The situation in Europe would be very different, as we don’t have the Constitution with its various Amendments, and I think, probably in about fifteen to twenty years time, we will either descend into civil war on the streets, or indeed, deport.
But who knows ? Neither of us is in a position to influence what our respective governments choose to do, or not to do, except by exercising our votes, and doing what we can to raise awareness of the horrors of islam, on this forum and others, as well as doing what we can in other spheres.
Angemon says
voegelinian posted:
“But remember, they are not especially more evil than any other demographic — as Angemon and his lapdog (and/or vice versa) belligerently remind us time and time again.”
More BS from voeg – what a surprise. Of course, he can’t quote me saying “muslims are not especially more evil than any other demographic” for the very simple reason I never said it. But that’s typical voeg: he got his ass kicked and therefore he must misrepresent and lie about those who kicked him to the curb. Notice that I had yet to post on this topic. This kind of gratuitous and uncalled attacks (copied from the leftist playbook) are a staple of voeg’s arsenal (as opposed to reply to criticism) and yet he has the gall to claim i’m the belligerent one. No wonder he got banned from JW several times before.
Tradewinds says
You’re an idiot, Jihadski. Go play in your sandbox, little boy. And take your hostility, immaturity and stupidity with you.
Tradewinds says
So absurd, Angemon.
voegelinian says
to Mirren
“Come off it, voeg.
I didn’t notice you coming to *my* defence, when I was being attacked by the egregious ‘Jay Boo’.”
Not all attacks are the same. There are differences in quantity (number of attacks, duration of the hostility over multiple threads over weeks, months, years); and in quality (where the attacks are not only belligerent, abusive, hostile and puerile, they are also defending Muslims in one way or another, and defending a softness in policy with regard to protecting our societies from Muslims).
“In fact, I don’t remember you coming to **anyone’s* defence. If I’m wrong here, I’m sure you’ll set me straight !”
Yes, I’ve come to people’s defense many times in the past (e.g., Champ). But again, it’s rare (except for that “Americana” person, for an attacker on JW threads to manifest the quantity I described above (and, adding insult to injury, the quality).
“As far as your rows with Mr Jihadski, and Angemon go, if you can’t stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen.”
I do stay out of the kitchen. If you’ve been paying attention, I don’t respond to over 90% of their puerile attacks on me. I relatively rarely note my dismay at fellow JWers doing nothing. When I do, I get either ignored, or snide remarks from them, equating my actions with the outrageously disproportionate shit PJ and Angemon have directed my way. If this had been happening to you, I’m sure you would have complained too.
“And why don’t you answer their points ? ”
I have. You just haven’t been following along. One of their tactics is to pretend that I haven’t already addressed their points and to reiterate this complaint repeatedly in a context of outrageously puerile hostility. I don’t have the time and energy to get mired in a welter of a shit storm like that — particularly when the surrounding community doesn’t seem to give a shit about me or about the important issues involved.
“Not being an American, I have no knowledge of your Constitution or laws, but I have a great respect for Wellington’s knowledge of both, and if he opines it can’t be done (deportation of all mohammedans), then clearly you need to explain **exactly** how you think it would/could be done”
I’ve already analyzed this at length, in threads here, and based upon those threads, in two essays on my blog where I link to the pertinent threads. I even put “Wellington” into the title of one of them:
http://hesperado.blogspot.com/2013/01/the-wellingtonhesperado-tennis-match.html
http://hesperado.blogspot.com/2014/07/re-match.html
Angemon says
voegelinian posted:
“Not all attacks are the same. There are differences in quantity (number of attacks, duration of the hostility over multiple threads over weeks, months, years); and in quality (where the attacks are not only belligerent, abusive, hostile and puerile, they are also defending Muslims in one way or another, and defending a softness in policy with regard to protecting our societies from Muslims).”
I, for one, would like to see examples of this alleged attack that took place over years. I also would like to see examples of what he refers to as ” defending Muslims in one way or another” and “defending a softness in policy with regard to protecting our societies from Muslims”
“I have. You just haven’t been following along. One of their tactics is to pretend that I haven’t already addressed their points and to reiterate this complaint repeatedly in a context of outrageously puerile hostility.”
Of course, voegelinian doesn’t account the possibility that Mirren actually saw what we asked, the answers we got, and she’s asking “And why don’t you answer their points ?” because she too feels he’s not answering our points.
Tradewinds says
Same to you nasty Jihadski, in spades.
voegelinian says
My Wellington post on my blog which I linked I just discovered has an unfortunate defect — it was constructed with a list of internal links to one comment after another, between me and Wellington, from the same old JW thread. Unfortunately, each of those links lost its connection to the individual comment, and only takes the reader who clicks on them to the general JW article itself, such that they would have to locate the back-and-forth conversation from the thread (not impracticable by any means, but a bit tedious to have to do) . Nevertheless, the back-and-forth exchange becomes pretty clear: one just has to keep scrolling down and read “Wellington”, then “LemonLime”, then Wellington’s response, then the response from “LemonLime”; and so on (“LemonLime” being my previous nickname here on JW).
Champ says
Voeg wrote:
Yes, I’ve come to people’s defense many times in the past (e.g., Champ).
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Yes, this is true, but it has been yeeeeears since you’ve defended me.
Jay Boo says
voegelinian
Mirren10 called me egregious
I thought that might help in pacifying your ego a little bit.
But you go on and on.
It wasn’t that long ago that even Wellington got fed up with your atrocious BS
Give it a rest
Jay Boo says
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When you say “Muslims aren’t human anyways” you are attacking the person and not the ideology or the behavior.
This is totally unnecessary since Islam is such an obvious piece of shit
Muhammad is a piece of shit.
Allah is a piece of shit.
There is no need to offer up distractions.
Islam rots the spirit from within and pollutes or kills everything it touches with its vile hate leaving Muslims foaming at their mouths full of nothing but filth and emptiness just like the buffoon Serpent of Satan false prophet that taints the soil in Medina where dogs still gather to eagerly lift one leg to his PBUH dishonor.
Appalled By The World says
This story shows us what would happen if the dream of the Koranists ever came true-a world devoid of “infidels” where only the followers of Mo are left. Once the world were infidel free then the real mayhem would commence to crown the most pious Muslim group in the world-one can just imagine the bloodbath that would ensue. So much for a peaceful, perfect planet under Islamania.
duh_swami says
Islam, doesn’t want to kill ‘all’ infidels, kuffar and polytheists’, if they did that, who would take out the trash, and do all the heavy lifting?…In order to avoid manual labor Islam needs a few kuffar for a dhimmi slave class of workers…You really don’t expect the victorious to do any hard work, do you?
Appalled By The World says
I see your point. Of course the “mistaken” Muslims could always be subjugated into providing such services. Every Muslim seems to think that they are the most pious and the only true one-all others are wrong and are subject to “correction”.
paddy says
IS’s bully boys are looking for any excuse to spill a little blood and spread the unhinged mindset they are experiencing. No doubt they’ll soon be executing each other for scratching their asses the wrong way.