I listed some examples here of this kind of thing happening elsewhere. For these neighbors of the Christians, their loyalty to Islam overrode everything else — and so when the jihadis came, they sided with them, not with their longtime friends and neighbors.
“Christian Refugee from Mosul: Our Neighbors Drove Us Out,” MEMRI, July 30, 2014:
In an interview to the Lebanese LBC/LDC TV channel, a Christian refugee from Iraq recounted how his Sunni neighbors drove the Christians out of Mosul. “[Our neighbors] said that this land belongs to Islam and that Christians should not live there,” he said.
Following are excerpts from the interview, which aired on July 30, 2014:
Unnamed Christian refugee: We left Mosul because ISIS came to the city. The [Sunni] people of Mosul embraced ISIS and drove the Christians out of the city. When ISIS entered Mosul, the people hailed them and drove out the Christians.
Why did they expel just the Christians from Mosul? There are many sects in Mosul. Why just the Christians? This is nothing new. Even before, the Christians could not go anywhere. The Christians have faced threats of murder, kidnapping, jizya. This is nothing new.
Jizya is the tax that the Qur’an says must be collected from the subjugated Jews and Christians (“People of the Book”): “Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.” (9:29)
I was told to leave Mosul. They said that this was a Muslim country, not a Christian one. I am being very honest. They said that this land belongs to Islam and that Christians should not live there.
Interviewer: Who told you that?
Christian refugee: The people who embraced ISIS, the people who lived there with us…
Interviewer: Your neighbors?
Christian refugee: Yes, my neighbors. Our neighbors and other people threatened us. They said: “Leave before ISIS get you.” What does that mean? Where would we go?
[…]
Christians have no support in Iraq. Whoever claims to be protecting the Christians is a liar. A liar!
Rinzai says
This is the fruit of ”beautiful islam” . The Pope talks about it, David Cameron talks about, Barack Obama talks about it… the entire enlightened, superior, secular west is simply IN AWE of it…
Rezali Mehil says
Why is this a surprise?
If Christians were attacking the village instead …then these very Christians would have dobbed in their Muslim neighbours….it stands to reason.
Personally I have always advocated a salt and pepper mix where muslims and christians live as each others neighbours…certainly this is the case in the UK…and will remain so Inshallah..
I guess in this case ..the Sunni were so intoxicating that the local friendly muslims …pretended that they were on their side to start with …to appeal on the Christians behalf …but they did not hang around long enough to find out about the answer.
Wetwork56 says
Personally I have always advocated a salt and pepper mix where muslims and christians live as each others neighbours…certainly this is the case in the UK…
Under what rock do you live Rezali Mehil??? The Islamic immigrants in EVERY country that has graciously offered you a better place to live then the shit holes you previously occupied, have not assimilated into the host country’s culture–on the contrary–they have constructed Islamic neighborhoods and do NOT show any form of loyalty/patriotism to their host nation. They are also like vampires sucking every penny they can from the welfare/social system and then sow seeds of discontent in mosques. So spare me the lies.
Beagle says
Rezali wants the entire world to be subject to the sudden violent whims of Islam. That’s their mission, to spread it far and wide until it consumes us all. Then we can all get on to the more important business of killing our fellow Muslims.
noel eliscu says
Please, it seems Muslims are unhappy wherever they live. UK they are unhappy and in other countries too.They are unhappy if the Muslim next door is of a different branch of the religion. They cannot except different views and most of them that riot and murder are lower than snakes in the grass. Putting a 7 year old on the internet holder a head of a dead soldier is sick. Animals kill for survival Muslims kill for nothing but a sickness and a thirst for evil. The religion is 500 years behind the times.
Beagle says
“If Christians were attacking the village instead”
Citation please. That’s your problem right there. At this point if Christians did attack a village it would be in response to brutal, unprovoked, ongoing aggression by Muslims.
Tradewinds says
Like what’s been occurring in the Central African Republic for the last year, Beagle. Select Central African Republic in the “Categories” and read all about it. I’m sure you already have.
Champ says
“rezali mehil” wrote:
Personally I have always advocated a salt and pepper mix where muslims and christians live as each others neighbours …
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And have someone like “rezali” for a neighbor? …no thank you! Talk about the neighbor from hell.
gravenimage says
The repulsive Rezali Mehil wrote:
Why is this a surprise?
If Christians were attacking the village instead …then these very Christians would have dobbed in their Muslim neighbours….it stands to reason.
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When is the last time Christians attacked a village?
Then, notice what “stands to reason” for this vicious Muslimah—the idea that everyone would turn on their non-Christian neighbors, and want to see them driven out or butchered?
But if this is what Christians really want, then why aren’t they doing this—*anywhere in the world*? What crap. Muslims assume that everyone is as vile as they are.
And notice that it never once occurs to this vicious Muslimah that these Mohammedans might have sided with their non-Muslim neighbors over a violent invasion force full of foreign fighters. It never occurs to her that they might have any loyalty to Iraq. It never occurs to her that they might not welcome the vicious imposition of Shari’ah law.
And why would it? The establishment of a Caliphate; the imposition of brutal Shari’ah law; and the oppression, driving out, or slaughter of Infidels (and their “other-sect” coreligionists) is something *every* pious Muslim wants to see.
These villagers turning on their Christian—and Yazidi—neighbors is mainstream Islam.
More:
Personally I have always advocated a salt and pepper mix where muslims and christians live as each others neighbours…certainly this is the case in the UK…and will remain so Inshallah..
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Rezali Mehil’s “salt and pepper” view means that Muslims infiltrate an area and slowly take it over, oppressing non-Muslims more and more as they go.
And then the only difference of opinion between Muslims like Rezali Mehil and squeezethejuice (“squeeze the Jews”) and those in the new Islamic State is that the former believe that Infidels should be exploited and via the Jizya.
Why drive out Infidels when you can enslave and humiliate them? Of course, ISIS prefers religious cleansing.
Who says Islam is ‘monolithic”? sarc/off
More:
I guess in this case ..the Sunni were so intoxicating that the local friendly muslims …pretended that they were on their side to start with …to appeal on the Christians behalf …but they did not hang around long enough to find out about the answer.
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I’m not even sure what the semi-literate Rezali Mehil is positing here—she’s not very clear.
Certainly, *no* Muslim appears to have appealed on the Christians’ behalf.
Mirren10 says
rezali, rezali !
Is this an attempt at what you think passes for ‘dialog’ (sic) ?
”If Christians were attacking the village instead …then these very Christians would have dobbed in their Muslim neighbours….it stands to reason”
Of *course* it does ! Well, only in the mindset of an evil and twisted mohammedan. Treachery against one’s neighbours *is* reasonable to you mohammedans, goes without saying ! And not only reasonable, but exactly what you would *expect* others to do. mohammedan projection, again.
By the way, there are no Christians attacking villages, only mohammedans, dumbo.
Thanks again for illustrating so neatly the putridness of the mohammedan mindset, me old son !
”Personally I have always advocated a salt and pepper mix where muslims and christians live as each others neighbours…certainly this is the case in the UK”
Well, of course you do ! Because ‘when the time comes’, (as I’m sure your twisted brain is already salivating over ) *you* can dob in your neighbours.
But of course, the boot’s on the other tootsie, isn’t it ? mohammedans, thank God, mostly live in mohammedan enclaves, so when the shit hits the fan, they’ll be relatively easy to round up, and throw out.
” … certainly this is the case in the UK”
How would you know, living in pakiland and cossetting your beard ? I bet you put on at least a stone over ramadamadindong, whilst the four little wifies were cooking up a storm, and you were gorging from night till morning. Giving up lunch is *such* a hardship, and really shows how spiritual and special you all are … 🙂
Managing to cope with all those ‘whispers and pointing fingers’ ? Gooood …
”I guess in this case ..the Sunni were so intoxicating that the local friendly muslims …pretended that they were on their side to start with …to appeal on the Christians behalf …but they did not hang around long enough to find out about the answer.”
This is too convoluted, even by your standards, to parse, but let’s face it, repulsive one, there’s no difference between shiite shits and sunni shits, as every brain functioning Christian in the Middle East knows.
Thanks again, for reminding us how evil and repulsive many mohammedans are, as always, so illuminating !
More later, chumbawumba !
gravenimage says
Mirren wrote:
[Rezali Mehil] ”Personally I have always advocated a salt and pepper mix where muslims and christians live as each others neighbours…certainly this is the case in the UK”
Well, of course you do ! Because ‘when the time comes’, (as I’m sure your twisted brain is already salivating over ) *you* can dob in your neighbours.
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You’re right, Mirren—this is is *exactly* what the nasty Rezali Mehil is saying she would do. *Ugh*.
salamander says
Coming to a town near you, soon…..
Jay Boo says
Muslims hold their hands up once again at prayer as if to say.
“Look our hands are washed clean of all evidence before Allah.”
If they weren’t so incredibly guilty in the first place Muslims would not feel such a gut-wrenching need to display their ‘prayer’ washed hands.
pumbar says
Actually mate the people in that picture are Christians. Muzzies don’t pray like that.
gravenimage says
Mosul Christian: Our Muslim neighbors drove us out
In an interview to the Lebanese LBC/LDC TV channel, a Christian refugee from Iraq recounted how his Sunni neighbors drove the Christians out of Mosul. “[Our neighbors] said that this land belongs to Islam and that Christians should not live there,” he said.
Unnamed Christian refugee: We left Mosul because ISIS came to the city. The [Sunni] people of Mosul embraced ISIS and drove the Christians out of the city. When ISIS entered Mosul, the people hailed them and drove out the Christians.
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All of this gives the lie to the idea that all Sunni Muslims in the invaded “Islamic State” are victims just like their Christian and Yazidi neighbors.
It also gives the lie to the idea that ISIS is just “foreign” fighters with not support on the ground in what was Syria and Iraq.
More:
Why did they expel just the Christians from Mosul? There are many sects in Mosul. Why just the Christians? This is nothing new. Even before, the Christians could not go anywhere. The Christians have faced threats of murder, kidnapping, jizya. This is nothing new.
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Even before this latest horror, the Christians of Mosul were treated like threatened dhimmis by their Muslim neighbors.
And the reference to Jizya shows that this was all on Islamic grounds.
Not wonder these Muslims embraced the pious thugs of ISIS and their new, Christian and other Infidel-free “Caliphate”. *Ugh*.
voegelinian says
More numerous in the Iraq violence even than ISIS jihadists are garden-variety Sunni jihadists, including many so-called “Baathists” (whom we have been taught over the years are all “secular”). It’s not clear what the relations are between the ISIS and non-ISIS Sunni jihadists and whether it’s mercurially shifting.
As Andrew Bostom reported back at the beginning of July:
Who is Fighting in Mosul and the Sunni Areas of Iraq?
10-20% ISIL
Several Iraqi armed groups with full coordination on the ground:
1- Baathist (6 different groups including former Iraqi army officers under the name of Jihad and Liberty Front).
2- Moderate Islamist [note: whatever that means!]
3- Tribal rebels
Dagher concluded, with understatement, “ISIL benefited from the wide, strong dissatisfaction among Sunnis.”
Most striking, were data from 200 telephone interviews of Mosul residents conducted in the period of June 19-21, 2014, i.e., after the city had come under control by the Sunni insurgents, including the jihad terror organization ISIL.
Notwithstanding subsequent dissatisfaction with ISIL, and its newly minted “Caliphate”—already emerging (as documented yesterday, 7/1/14 by the Washington Post’s Loveday Morris) within 3-weeks after the regular Iraqi army and police forces of the al-Maliki central government were crushed, or fled—two key sentiments were apparent in the immediate aftermath of the Sunni takeover:
81.5% of Mosul’s predominantly Sunni residents felt more secure after the Sunni insurgents seized control of the city;
they overwhelmingly rejected—i.e., 84.5%!—U.S. involvement with the (longstanding Iranian proxy) Maliki government to repulse the Sunni insurgents, including ISIL.
http://www.andrewbostom.org/blog/2014/07/06/my-pjm-blog-this-past-week-on-why-u-s-should-stay-out-of-iraqs-sectarian-morass/
gravenimage says
All very true. I think a lot of Westerners have the idea that ISIS is “occupying” parts of Syria and Iraq—but in many cases they have been welcomed, and “ordinary” local Sunni Muslims have not just been complicit, but are now an active and willing part of the Caliphate.
Bro. Nick says
The true beliefs and goals of the Satanic followers of the false prophet Mohammed are now more clearly being shown and demonstrated. The Mohammadens want a worldwide Caliphate and they are actively working to get it.
IS (formerly ISIS / ISIL) is yet another manifestation of the nearly unthinkable barbarism that those who follow the moon god ‘allah’ are capable of!
Watch out Europe and ‘Amerika’ and Canada – our turn is coming! – possibly very soon.
“The word of the LORD” always says it clearly and plainly:
“The wicked walk on every side, when the vilest men are exalted.”
(Ps 12:8 – KJV)
Michael Copeland says
Remember Maaloula?
“We knew our Muslim neighbours all our lives …but we thought they would never betray us. We ate with them. We are one people.” Georgios remembers how he peered over his balcony, “One of them had a Kalashnikov rifle in one hand and a sword in the other,” he says, shaking his head in disbelief.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/syria-crisis-in-sacred-maaloula-where-they-speak-the-language-of-christ-war-leads-neighbours-into-betrayal-8839610.html
gravenimage says
The exact same thing has happened with Muslims in the new “Caliphate” tuning on their Yazidi neighbors:
“Yazidis say Sunni Muslim neighbors enabled jihad attack, and joined in”
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/08/yazidis-say-sunni-muslim-neighbors-enabled-jihad-attack-and-joined-in
Sickening—but hardly surprising.
Brazooka says
Christian refugee: Yes, my neighbors. Our neighbors and other people threatened us. They said: “Leave before ISIS get you.” What does that mean? Where would we go?
That’s pretty much how my Armenian great-grandparents Turkish neighbors acted toward them. Warning your neighbors they are about to be slaughtered unless they leave their homes as destitute refugees, and then claiming their property as one’s own, is the Muslim idea of mercy.
reyol says
Try talking to just about anyone about the dangers of Islam and they will tell you about some wonderful Muslims that they know. There are many examples in history of Muslims slaughtering their dear neighbors just because their imam told them to.
Geraldo says
In my personal opinion, one way to win this war is by engaging Muslims in discussion about the One True God and the True Holy Book. The West must be willing to promote education about The Holy Bible and New Testament Apostolic Doctrine. Islamic Countries lack knowledge about Christian foundational believes as it relates to salvation, holiness, Christian living, women and minorities rights. This is a spiritual warfare. We will not win by just preaching about “multiculturalism and acceptance”. Muslims need to be educated about the core foundations of Christianity, life, accomplishments and promises of Jesus Christ. Moreover, Muslims need to learn the Biblical steps of salvation that will lead them to Heaven/Kingdom of God or Paradise: Repentance, Baptism and infilling with the Holy Ghost. Many are Anti-Christians because they don’t know what Christianity is really about.
Angemon says
No surprise there, for a good muslim islam trumps anything. After the assassination of Ka’b ibn al-Ashraf for making poems mocking muslims (which set the precedent of using lies and deceptions to advance the cause of islam), muhammad gave the blanket statement of “kill any jew you can get your hands on”. The first victim was a jewish trader, Ibn Sunayna, killed by Muhayissa. Muhayissa’s elder brother, Huwayissa, was not a muslim and rebuked him for having done so. Muhayissa showed no regret and replied “had I been given the order, I would have cut off your head”. As islamic narrative has it, Huwayissa was so impressed with his brother’s “piousness” he became a muslim.
gravenimage says
Thank you for the additional detail, Angemon—that was exactly the Hadith I was referring to.
Pavelina says
The Muslims who are turning on their Christian neighbors are the “moderate” Muslims.