“Some Christian groups in northern Iraq say they have had enough of being struck down like helpless victims and are tired of being chased from a place where they consider themselves to be the original inhabitants; they have decided to take up arms to defend the home their people have known for over 2,000 years.” This is completely understandable; it will, however, be the occasion of a great deal of moral equivalence from the mainstream media and government officials, as they decry “religious extremists on both sides.” But in reality, fighting for self-defense is not the same thing as fighting a war of conquest and extermination.
“Calling It a ‘Reverse Jihad,’ Iraqi and Foreign Christians Join Fight Against Islamic State,” by Don Pittman, Gospel Herald, August 28, 2014:
Some Christian groups in northern Iraq say they have had enough of being struck down like helpless victims and are tired of being chased from a place where they consider themselves to be the original inhabitants; they have decided to take up arms to defend the home their people have known for over 2,000 years.
National Geographic reports that, According to officials with the Assyrian Patriotic Party, which is one of several Assyrian political organizations in Iraq that is made up of mostly Christians, 40 armed members have been sent to join the Kurdish Peshmerga, the official security force of the Kurdistan Regional Government, and the strongest fighting force in Northern Iraq that is taking on the Islamic State.
The Christian group has shed its historically passive nature because the ruthless Islamic State has so severely brutalized all who stand in its way.
Earlier this month, the president of the Kurdistan Region of Iraq, Massud Barzani, announced that his government was ready to open its doors to Christian volunteers among the Kurdish armed forces by providing them with the means to create self-defense forces in their villages and defend themselves from jihadi militias of the Islamic State, Fides Agency reported.
Henry Sarkis, 44, the newly appointed branch chief for the Assyrian Patriotic Party in the area, calls the group of 40 from his party the “first wave”, and they have adopted the name Dukha, which means “sacrifice’.
“We keep talking about Jesus and peace, and now we’ve reached the point where it’s not enough,” he said in an interview at his party’s headquarters in Dahuk. “The age of waiting for the Peshmerga to take back territory while we sit is over. We took the decision that, with our limited abilities, we will try to participate.”
The shift in ideals for Christians, who have been viewed as helpless victims in the past, may make the Iraqi Christians more of a target, some believe, but Sarkis, however, isn’t worried as he believes standing up to fight is better than laying down and dying.
“We’re being killed in our homes, so why not defend ourselves? Then even if we die, we die with dignity,” he said. “We didn’t want to reach this point – we just want to live in our areas.”
Christians make up less than 1 percent of Iraq’s population, and have been an easy target for other terror groups in the past, like Al-Qeada of Iraq, and the regime of Saddam Hussein.
In another part of Dahuk, behind the protective walls of the Assyrian Democratic Movement’s headquarters, the local branch leader, Farid Yacoub, 42, says his party too is moving to arm volunteers.
It has registering about 2,000 names so far who are willing to fight. But unlike Assyrian Patriotic Party leaders, Yacoub is recruiting men to protect Christian areas after they’ve been won back from the IS and its allies.
“We have lots who are volunteering, who want to fight, but we don’t have the means to arm them,” he said.
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The party doesn’t want Christian villages such as Al Hamdaniyah (Qaraqosh) to be controlled or protected by the Peshmerga after they’ve been reclaimed. “Our people don’t trust them any more,” Yacoub said.
Many Christians blame the Peshmerga for not protecting Mosul when IS fighter overran the city. Also, there have been long held territorial disputes, and many of the Christians in the area want to govern themselves, but the Nineveh Plains where they live is claimed by both the Iraqi government and Kurdistan authorities.
“Our men said they were worried because they didn’t want to defend areas other than theirs. We want to defend areas where our people are, specifically the Nineveh Plains,” Yacoub said. “We’re nationalists, but the circumstances that Iraq is living through now necessitate that we have a safe place, a place for us.”
Apparently Iraqi Christians are not the only ones entering the fray, According to UCANews.com, A reporter from the Swiss newspaper “Sonntags Zeitung” visited a number of training centers of the Syriac Military Council, a group of armed self-defense units consisting of Syrian Christians, Chaldeans and Assyrians. They included several Swiss residents active in Iraq, one of whom said, “Someone has to take action to prevent the disappearance of Christians.”
The “grassroots resistance” that some are calling a “reverse Jihad” is reportedly encouraged by some authorities, especially those that don’t believe the Iraqi govenment and western powers are doing enough to help.
Richie says
If any group deserves support from the west, its the Christians who are being wiped out by the Muslims
I’ll bet Obama will refuse to offer any aid to the Christians- since Muslims might take offense
Plus the leftist narrative that Muslims can only be victims, and never oppressors
John Peterson says
Here we go;EXACTLY what the shadow government wants ;their plan is going well.A new and improved Crusade featuring all world beliefs and mainline religions;particularly Islam and Christianity.It has already beGUN.The idea is to unite EUROPE and America under a common base of existence ;It is the same old story.The shadow government is playing both sides and all sides;manipulating and arming the players and pawns and guiding the whole thing into the coral of totalitarian socialism.The tunnel vision of well meaning people who swallow all of this will put them and their children into a new revived HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE which will consist of a negotiated arrangement with a Caliphate in the East and a new European Monarchy of sorts where the rich and powerful have all the aces.Well meaning Christians and others are swallowing the bait…….then their is Jew —baiting..this is also a big factor.The only way to stop the genocides is to hit the high priest who controls the governments;then they will scatter and be no more………This high priest runs the oldest profession in the world.Put on your thinking caps.
Louise from Canada says
John, you are absolutely right to name it: the shadow government. For years that is what I always said someone somewhere is manipulating the world and that “shadow government” is doing it and we know why.
Kathy Brown says
I’m ignorant of what ‘shadow gov’t’ is. But what you say makes sense, so will you explain please?
Thank you!
EYESOPEN says
This is actually for Kathy Brown. But since she does not have a “reply” under her post I can’t address it directly to her.
You might want to read this:
http://pilgrimpassing.com/2012/07/27/the-men-who-rule-america/
Anonamustafa says
I bet your thinking cap is lined with tin-foil.
If it isn’t,”they” will “know” about all the “things” you “think” about and “research” on the “internet”.
EYESOPEN says
Actually, the “high priest” controls ONE of the oldest professions in the world – the oldest apparently being prostitution. Now, this “high priest” to which you are referring would not be Rothschild would it?
Bamaguje says
Methinks the West should go the whole hog – train, arm and empower willing Christian militants to establish a safe haven… a Christian state in the Middle east.
But I can already here the usual conniving willfully blind see-no-Jihad leftists in the West joining Muslims to howl “Christian occupation”… just as they demonize Israel.
wolfgang says
Its actually about time this happened !, if the US leader had any brains at all, he would allow US special forces to train militias and also for the USA to arm them, so how about it Obama ? how about it Cameron ? how about it Abbott ? how about it Putin ?, how about it Merkil ?should the leaders of the West let these people die, then may the one eternal God El-Shaddai judge these men and their lack of guts, I for one applaud them defending themselves, self defense is a basic right as given by the God of the bible, not offense but defense !.
I would hope the Israelis would arm and train them…….surely others hear there cry ?. My heart weeps for these people, they are our brothers and sisters !, there are many on here who will stand with me in prayer and support !
Champ says
Hear, hear, Wolfgang!
Michael says
I stand with you, wolfgang! I admire those that are defending themselves and their homelands. I wish them the best. Hopefully in time my government (US) will take a more offensive role against ISIS.
Islamisdeath says
I have been praying for these people daily for several years now. I pray God be with them in this.
apran says
I will send some money to the Christians there, if possible
EYESOPEN says
I too pray that God grants these people success. They know what they are up against; but their attitude of BETTER TO DIE ON YOUR FEET THAN LIVE ON YOUR KNEES is admirable. It would be great if THESE people could be armed and trained by the best.
PatnTruck says
“Lean freedom rather than fat slavery” – an old AEsop Fable.
Yes, freedom isn’t free and we of the USA can’t have a US soldier standing in every village, or in huts, in deserts the region over. If people want to be free from oppression – ISLAM – then they must stand and fight islam to the death.
Israel is doing just that, and they are condemned by their attackers for not dying just for HAMAS’ and Pali’s amusement and it’s in the koran to kill the Jews and the Christians.
Fight and fight until free or dead, but the islamic oppressors will kill one – so what is the alternative? If its important to these folks, then seek weapons and like minded people to band together.
Rezali Mehil says
Salaam Mr. Wolfgang,
Are you German?…You know given 2 World wars the Germans have a baaaad reputation for war mongering.
I was in Dusseldorf a year back…talking to some German folks ….who said how much they keep their celebrations low key despite their successes…. “a gift from the grandfaters” one of them said …very sad I thought.
As for arming christians…assarians…romans…Yazidis… it is a falsity ….their glory days have come and gone I’m afraid. They were warriors pre BC and the Romans a few hundred years post BC.
Now they are sedentary people…placid… like Christianity has taught them to become…why it is a default “factory setting” for them…dough like soft and gentle….like the Mitchilline tyre logo you know.
You cannot change them now…please do not encourage changing their roots…they will be lost forever…
I am sure that Obama will be along shortly …pls don’t worry.
More Later…
Rezali
duh_swami says
PHHHT…Christianity is not a suicidal religion…Christians do not love death more than Pepsi…
The best warriors in a war are those who really don’t want to do it, but must defend themselves..
The west should arm these Christians as well as those in Nigeria who keep getting slaughtered by boko. It’s time for a ‘Christian Spring’. Can they do it? I don’t know, but I wish them luck…
sinantara says
Mehdi, you have no read enough history. Or psychology. The Jews were warriors, became gettho dwellers led by Hitler meekly to slaughter and then turned into Spartans again. The native American warriors became drunkards and then recruited by the US Army outstanding warriors again. The descendents of the Prussian military caste and samurai were beaten by US shopkeepers and farm boys. Christianity makes not weak, it teaches the sermon of the mountain, but it doesn;t change the basic nature of man. Burn down the house of a man and rape his wife and daughters and the reptilian brain takes over whether somebody is a monotheist, polytheist,or atheist. The west after two world wars and colonial wars has become complacent and willing to turn the other cheek.
SINANTARA says
But just keep baiting and keep baiting–and you’ll see that we are not yet at the end of history
SpiritOf1683 says
And those same Germans (Austrians are actually Germans) stopped the Jihad at Vienna (with a lot of help from Sobieski) then drove these Jihadis out of Hungary, Croatia and Transylvania over the next 20 years. Never mind, these Assyrians etc aren’t going to let the barbarians you support slit their throats and hack off their heads withouit a fight. You want to see infidel heads roll because you’re utterly evil.
gravenimage says
The evil Muslim supremacist Rezali Mehil wants to make sure that no Infidel fight back.
Wolfgang says
Ja, ich bin Deutsche, waren die Deutschen am meisten fortschrittlichen und modernen Nation in Europa vor WW1 und moderne Kirche Denken wurde von den frühen deutschen Theologen geprägt.
Wolfgang says
@ gravenimage
Ich kann Ihnen versichern, die Amerikaner haben auch ein schlechtes Image in Deutschland als Kriegs mongerers auch, Ihre Eisenhower war ein deutscher Hasser, oder? wenn ja tut mir leid für Sie.
Wolfgang says
Rezali
Am I German ? of course !……..the second or third largest group of immigrants to the USA for a long time where German, someone here posted that the Austrians were or are German , totally incorrect, Austria is a province of lower Germany with a different dialect and varying customs, we Germans also fought in the American civil war and also in the war of independence, the best heavy cavalry in Europe were Prussian cavalry for a long long time and you know what ? the Austrians and German men at arms fought off the Muslim hordes from raping , pillaging and burning hundreds of years, the same Germanic tribes fought off the Roman armies and kept fighting a gurella war for over 2 centuries…….
Mein Vater und meine Mutter waren loyal zu ihrer Stadt und Familie bin ich froh, Deutscher zu sein, und von einer christlichen stolz warror Rennen zu verstehen sind? oder sind Sie zu viel von einem Idioten? ja?
You are probably too lazy to translate……so I better do this for you…..
I come from a proud warrior race who fought the Muslims and all who came into Germany. All my family are believers and are not cowards Germans will fight if pushed but we do not seek a fight understand ?
ann blake says
Amen.
thomas_h says
“…if the US leader had any brains at all, he would allow US special forces to train militias and also for the USA to arm them, so how about it Obama ? ”
Obama has more than enough brains necessary to, concurrently, stamp out Christianity and play golf.
Anon says
I’m sure the you-do-it-too-ers will come out of the woodwork now. Yeah, it’s called DEFENSE.
“But in reality, fighting for self-defense is not the same thing as fighting a war of conquest and extermination.”
WELL SAID.
loseyateefa says
Remember that Stallone movie “First Blood”? We need some Rambos now!!!!!!
kaz says
reverse jihad. otherwise known as a crusade, which is intrinsically evil. we know this because our media tells us so. endlessly.
TH says
The cuzades were not intrinsically evil, but an effort at self defense. In the long run they were not successful, but that doesn’t deny the fact that they were not offensive war as jihad is.
kaz says
I am happy to see that you understand that the crusades were not intrinsically evil, as our media, academia, and government constantly insist. now, if only you will convince the enemies of western civilization of the error of their ways.
jewdog says
Christians were once the dominant group in that area during the Byzantine era, but have since been devastated. Obviously, Islam is much more ruthless than most other creeds so its prominence is understandable. Who knows, maybe this will start a new trend, like a sort of Spanish Civil War in Iraq.
shrugger says
Isn’t reverse jihad known as Crusade?
Islamisdeath says
Thank God! Of course the enemedia will bear down with all their wrath on the Christians.
voegelinian says
That would be refreshing, to bring that fine term out of its Shame Drawer into the sunshine again.
Joseph says
They’re defending themselves from murderous thugs who are slaughtering them like sheep.
Dude…
YA THINK?!?
Holy F-ck.
This is what I have been waiting for from the first minute this genocide started.
Rise up, you goddamn cowards, and defend your women and children before they are raped and beheaded right in front of you. Are you f-cking kidding me?!?
‘Bout damn time, I say.
And if anyone dares to say “Oh yeah, you’re so brave sitting behind your laptop”…
I promise you: you don’t know who you’re talking to. If someone were to threaten to rape my wife and/or behead my children, I am ripping out tracheas until I am shot dead, I swear to you. These guys are just f-cking w-e-a-k.
‘Bout. Damn. Time.
Bezelel says
When Jesus told the disciples to sell some stuff and buy swords he wasn’t kidding.
2 Peter 2:12
But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;
Nobody can blame them for running out of cheeks to turn.
Porkistan says
I saw you two knuckleheads saying this exact same “Christianity endorses violence” junk on another thread with another couple dummies agreeing with you.
So let an ATHEIST verse you on scripture.
1. Everything Jesus did was to fulfill various prophecies.
2. It was prophesied that Jesus would be a criminal and ONLY soldiers and criminals had swords in those days (like Anti-Gun Europe where only police and criminals have guns).
3. Jesus ordered his followers to ‘gather up swords’ and when they had TWO he said that was enough to satisfy the prophecy.
4. When one of his disciples cut off a soldiers ear, Jesus REPRIMANDED him and healed the soldier.
So go ahead and cherry pick the New Testament to suit your agenda. Make Christianity look as vile and disgusting as islam actually is.
Petey says
Thanx for the support Mr Porkistan ( Atheist)! refreshing to see a fair and non judgmental rebuttal..and might I say you know more about your Bible then most people who preach…rather impressive I must say
Bezelel says
@porkistan, The cherry picking is what you have just done. By identifying yourself as an atheist you have already admitted you don’t understand the Scriptures or you would have converted by now. There are other atheists on this board who are not antagonist when the topic of the article is about Christians being slaughtered. When an article is about atheists being slaughtered, I personally do not provide Scripture to condemn or condone it.
1. Everything Jesus did was to fulfill various prophecies. (False)
Not everything. Over simplifying betrays your superficial approach.
2. It was prophesied that Jesus would be a criminal and ONLY soldiers and criminals had swords in those days (like Anti-Gun Europe where only police and criminals have guns). (False)
There weren’t any democrats yet. Swords and knives were the sidearm of the day. Spears and even Bows.
3. Jesus ordered his followers to ‘gather up swords’ and when they had TWO he said that was enough to satisfy the prophecy. (False)
35 And he said unto them, When I sent you without purse, and scrip, and shoes, lacked ye any thing? And they said, Nothing. 36 Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one. 37 For I say unto you, that this that is written must yet be accomplished in me, And he was reckoned among the transgressors: for the things concerning me have an end. 38 And they said, Lord, behold, here are two swords. And he said unto them, It is enough.
It should be clear enough that he told them they didn’t need money or swords while they had him with them but he was going away ( die on the cross) to fulfill Scriptures.
4. When one of his disciples cut off a soldiers ear, Jesus REPRIMANDED him and healed the soldier. ( half truth)
Do you really need an explanation for why Jesus couldn’t allow Peter to defend him? Can you not see the difference between defending Jesus and defending himself?
Angemon says
No, don’t call it “reverse jihad”. While technically it may be correct, it just muddies the waters and plays right into the hands of the moral equivalence crowd. This is not a “reverse jihad” anymore than the movement to end slavery was “reverse slavery” or the American Revolution was “reverse colonization”. It’s self-defense and resistance to jihad.
Joseph says
Very good points. I agree. It’s simple self-defense is all. No “reverse” anything. Good point.
voegelinian says
(clears throat) “Counter-Jihad”
duh_swami says
I like, the ‘Christian Spring’…Springing is what they are doing. They are hoping to ‘spring it’ on ISIS.
Kathy Brown says
Phil and Joseph: AMEN to all you’ve said!
It is about time; the real men who haven’t been chickified must feel this too. God help us: Zero’s such a chickensh_t that he’d arrest any normal American who did what he should.
I literally thought I was listening to a joke today on the radio, driving? When I heard ‘Prez says he has no strategy’. Alas! Like so many other things in the category of ‘this-would-be-really-funny-if-it-weren’t-true’, this report was entirely factual.
God speed the day of Zero’s [political] demise; and God bless the brave men who defend us all…
Joseph says
Thank you. Listen, I’m a retired New York City police officer. Nobody is killing anybody I love while there is still breath in my body.
Kathy Brown says
I too am a New Yorker Joseph (transplanted to Ks. now). Thank you for your service; and God bless and reward you for your courage.
The [demonic] so-called ‘Women’s Movement’ has done much to erode the God-given roles of men and women. You, and men like you, are a living rebuke to such evil.
Rezali Mehil says
Hello Joseph,
You need to calm down sir… I read that you are retired not retarded…although at the moment it is difficult to know which is correct.
Americans like yourself sir …suffer terribly from an ego problem… it is the reason why so few American marriages survive.
Joseph…I know that you gotta be hurting… You remember “every day” that despite all your weaponry you could not defend NYC… it happened on YOUR watch…and you want someone to pay for your failings …I can understand that….but
sir, as an old and rapidly aging person with a balding head and bowed shoulder …please worry about the arthritis in your fingers…I am sure your glock holding days are over …what with parkinson showing up …you won’t even be able to hold or fire a weapon.
So if I might be so bold without stepping on your toes Mr Joseph…leave it to Obama….
More Later….
Rezali
duh_swami says
Haha…I bet you worked on that for 2 weeks…
thomas_h says
“In Islam it’s the wives…””
LOL!
Lovely!
flakmusic says
“So if I might be so bold without stepping on your toes Mr Joseph…”
Rezali, silly mohammedan cow.
You haven’t stepped on anyone’s toes, you pis*ed on your own. As usual.
BTW, how is your prophet muhammed doing? Still boiling in pig sh*t in hell’s darkest recess?
Is true what they say that he has been turned to a fat boy whose virginity is restored each time after a shaheed takes a “ride” on him?
Joseph says
In the immortal words of John Wayne, in the movie “The Cowboys”:
“I’ve broke my back once and my hip twice. And on my worst day I could kick the ever-lovin’ shit outta you.”
But while we’re dick measuring, [little Arab] Reza, here are a few lines you might find interesting:
Christians speak the TRUTH. You Muslim devils, on the other hand, LIE because you are sons of your father, the father of lies, Satan himself. Here are some truths about Islam:
1. MORE people were killed by Muslims in the past MONTH (Ramadan 2014) than in ALL 350 YEARS of the Spanish Inquisition combined. In the Spanish Inquisition, approximately 125,000 persons were interviewed and approximately 1.8% of those were actually killed. That’s approximately 2,250 people. In the past MONTH, Muslims have killed 2,429 people in service to their blood-thirsty demon-god, Allah. See the website The Religion of Peace dot com to verify every one of those deaths.
2. Here’s a tasty morsel for my little Muslim friend. Consider this fact:
Muslims make up 23% of the global population, but less than .5% of the Nobel Prizes in Science. Whereas Jews make up less than .5% of the global population, but they account for 23% of the Nobel Prizes in Science. It must really suck to be a Muslim, huh? You truly are “the worst of people”, huh? Even your hated Jews are SO much better than you.
3. Finally, Muslims should learn the lesson and stop picking fights with people who can kick their ass. Like Hamas is learning right now: they started a fight with Israel and now [as usual] Israel is thoroughly kicking their ass. Just like 1948, 1956, 1967, 1973, etc. But I guess after all the in-breeding, Muslims aren’t too bright though, huh?
Joseph says
p.s. NYPD has a twenty year retirement. I went in at 24 and vested out with 15 years on the job. Left the force three years ago and I’m 42 years old right now. So your assumptions about retired = old are dead wrong. No grey hair or arthritis over here, my friend. And my Glock 19 holding days are far from finished, I promise you, Little Reza.
Kathy Brown says
Rez: You’re simply jealous that no such chivalric protection exists under Is-Slime.
In the Judeo-Christian ethic, God has ordained that men are the protectors of women and children. Idiot feminazis-who like you, WISH they had loving life-giving men in their lives as husbands, brothers, and fathers-pervert this as ‘male chauvinism’. Alas! By so doing they rob themselves of one of the greatest joys this life has to offer…
Under your revolting ‘religion’, men are told by the prophet (piss be upon him) to ‘beat [women]’ and ‘banish them from [the men’s] beds’. Now given the filthy unwashed sexually sadistic state of the ‘men’ in Is-Slime, the latter is devoutly to be wished.
But I digress.
This is why you, and Mu-Slimes like you, spend your creative energy on sites like this, spewing hatred. But Rez: I issue YOU an invitation. You need not end as you’ve begun. You can leave Is-Slime and embrace the real God of peace, the God of Christians and Jews.
In the meantime, we all understand that your life is so ugly, so hideous, that you needs must be here, and everywhere on the Net, lying about pedophile Mohammed. My friend: All the taqqiya in the world won’t make your life anything but the hell-on-earth it is.
Jay Boo says
Rez go hug a cactus
The angel of Islam was just a devil who came to recite his claim by enticing Muhammad to crawl within a deep dark cave and sign his name.
SpiritOf1683 says
You are utterly evil and the lowest lifeform on the planet. It is time you were banned. You are evil , your cult is evil and barbaric, and provided the West finds a spine, your sort will be rolled back to the fleapit you came from.
Woflgang says
I am not of military background, I have hunted and tracked animals all my life, I would do the same as these innocent people, here is a link that many will find disturbing, it shows graphic images of what these savages do to people who don’t submit. As a father of grown up children , it brought tears to my eyes, ISIS and their ilk deserve no pity and the people who peddle the Qur’ran are little better.
WARNING GRAPHIC PHOTOS (RAW) – ISIS begins killing Christians in Mosul, CHILDREN BEHEADED – Middle East – International – News – Catholic Online
http://www.catholic.org/news/international/middle_east/story.php?id=56481
Semeru says
Yo Wolfgang, I can fully understand your despair and grief, especially over the two images of showing the body of a decapitated little girl.
I see that many counter jihad sites including Pamella Geller are using these images, claiming that ISIS are beheading children in Mosul.
This is is blatant bullshit from Catholic Online and Geller.
The picture of the decapitated girl shown above had been circulated two years earlier as an example of an atrocity committed by the Assad government in Syria when a helicopter gunship reportedly open fired on unarmed civilians.
http://egyptianchronicles.blogspot.ca/2012/09/syria-revolts-horror-that-youtube-could.html
The little girl is not even christian, she is in fact moslem. You only have to look at the following video, though the language is arabic, it is possible to hear people saying akbar allah, and the person who is holding the child even says insha allah.
In fact the video is sunni moslem propaganda against the Assad regime.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jO0LW_ra4-c
These images have been online since sept 2012, that is 7 months before the creation of ISIS which was formed in april 2013.
To many people in the counter jihad movement do not have a clue, or are blatantly lying.
Here is another example where prominent counter-jihadis are misleading the choir
https://www.facebook.com/davidwood.acts17/posts/311922558943814
This image has been around since 2001
In the link below to the Singapore,s Straits Times there is another image that puts the image David Woods posted into the proper context
If look carefully, you will see an image of many corpses, in the very center just by the wooden crates you can see most of the girls body
http://luciferone.tripod.com/9902/42.htm
For those with bad eyes here is another link
http://community.fortunecity.ws/skyscraper/perl/1182/sampit.html
So what we have now are two images of young moslem, girls that have been decapitated, and the CJM are falsely claiming they are christian or Buddhist.
SpiritOf1683 says
Oi, ISIS-loving barbarian. Off you go to Pakistan, and may the door hit you on the way out.
wolfgang says
@ Semeru
Maybe, just maybe the children are Muslim, does that really make it OK to behead children ?, to me it does not matter who is doing the beheading !, IF its a Zionist plot or put together by the Catholic Church and makes people sit up and take notice that beheadings are going and spurs people into wiping these murderous psychopaths out then great ! I am all for it, when I get time this weekend I will have a look at the links, by the way, two Iraqi Christian families where I live DO have family being tortured by ISIS and DO live in two small towns overun by ISIS, I don’t like propaganda, but I DO know of good moral Christians from Iraq who are terrified of their relatives fate !, who ARE arming themselves, no one can debunk that and that IS worth fighting for, [ fighting ISIS is something that will be done by all of us sooner or later if we don’t stop them on their own turf, unless you are defending what they do. Islam IS anti Christian ,it is ” another ” Gospel and it is Satanic at its core.
Frankly it concerns me not one little bit, who fights and destroys these vermin, if you are Jewish, Mormon, Buddhist or Atheist then or a calathumpian we need to all stand together or most assuredly we will fall.
chrisleo says
A modern day crusade, if only, you might even get modern day crusaders from the west, instead of jihadis from the west heading to the Holy Lands, be interesting to see if they get any arms from the US and UK. Unfortunately, I doubt it very much.
Tommo says
The Christian ‘turn the other cheek’ and ‘love thine enemy’ is despised by Muslims as a sign of weakness and submission. The only language these thugs understand is that of the bullet and the sword. Jesus was naive to preach that we could win over enemies by loving them. It doesn’t and never has worked. We always have to fight for our lives in the end after being provoked into it by suffering sustained and violent aggression. Christians everywhere should be teaching their children how to defend themselves and about the evils of Islam. The ‘love they neighbour’ sentiment should be qualified to include ‘only if he loves you back’.
Petey says
Turn the other cheek means don’t pick fights, defending yourself is covered under the concept of an eye for an eye!
Tommo says
Turn the other cheek doesn’t mean ‘don’t pick fights’. It means if smacked on one side of your face offer the attacker the other side also. There is no ‘concept’ anywhere in the Bible that allows Christians to defend themselves against attack let alone ‘an eye for an eye’ situation which would be regarded as revenge and therefore un-Christian.
Bezelel says
Self defense is not revenge. Do you expect a Christian husband and father to refuse to protect his family or his country? Where have you been living?
Tommo says
Well where have you been living? Christian families throughout the Islamic world have been slaughtered because of their religion. The only ones armed in these situations are Muslims which makes your question ‘Do you expect a Christian husband and father to refuse to protect his family or his country?’ rather naive.
Bezelel says
The Christians living THERE have been living under the pisslamic yoke for so long they have come to accept it. They have no first or second amendment. Have you been living There? Assad has Christians in his military. Christians are joining the IDF.
Bezelel says
To Tomo, I posted a response and it disappeared, anyway ,do you live there?
chrisleo says
Just out of historical interest, the Crusades were military campaigns ordered by the Church during the High Middle Ages and Late Middle Ages. In 1095 Pope Urban II proclaimed the First Crusade with the stated goal of restoring Christian access to holy places in and near Jerusalem. Many historians and some of those involved at the time, like Saint Bernard of Clairvaux, give equal precedence to other papal-sanctioned military campaigns undertaken for a variety of religious, economic, and political reasons, such as the Albigensian Crusade, the Aragonese Crusade, the Reconquista, and the Northern Crusades.[1] Following the First Crusade there was an intermittent 200-year struggle for control of the Holy Land, with six more major crusades and numerous minor ones. In 1291, the conflict ended in failure with the fall of the last Christian stronghold in the Holy Land at Acre, after which Roman Catholic Europe mounted no further coherent response in the east.
Some historians see the Crusades as part of a purely defensive war against the expansion of Islam in the near east, which is happening right now in the modern age; some see them as part of long-running conflict at the frontiers of Europe; and others see them as confident, aggressive, papal-led expansion attempts by Western Christendom. Crusading attracted men of all classes. The massacres involved were mainly attributed as being caused by disorder, an epidemic of egotism and economic distress. I personally have no religion at all, I don’t believe any of it not for a minute, in my opinion, it has been in the past and still is to some extent a method of controlling the unwashed masses. However, I would consider reverting back to Christianity, just to get the chance to fight Islam in a last Crusade. I can also, see the appeal that it would have to many people, not just Christians, in both the East and West. Unfortunately, it won’t be happening any time soon, not without support from Obama and Cameron.
David, Thailand says
I guess the protectors of truth, our media, will package this as a 21st century Crusade by the evil Christians against peaceloving Muslims.
ElderlyZionist says
Back in 1941, the ground defense of Halabyah airfield against the pro-Nazi revolutionary Iraqi Army rested mainly on a few companies of Assyrian Levies in British service. Supported by a hand full of trainer aircraft, these few hundred men stood off two Iraqi divisions who held the high ground with all their artillery.
There is steel in these men, who will fight for their homes and families if they can be armed. Go crusaders!
andrew sapia says
we need a new crusader spirit. What has happened to Christian Europe? There was a time when Kings would lead armies to take back the lands stolen by the Muslims. The brave Franks once made the Muslims shutter with fear. Now they can’t even keep the Muslims in their borders from rioting and burning down cities inside France. It’s so crazy that this once great Christian European civilization now bends over backwards to kiss the asses of these medieval savages. And has invited them into their countries while they publically proclaim that they want to take over their countries. We need to get medieval our selves. Check out real crusades history on youtube for the true story of the crusades.
Rajivi says
On reading the news of 300+ Syrian army slain by IS, I was thinking why the Syrian soldiers did not fight back, knowing fully well that if they become prisoners of IS, they would surely killed by them, as it happened in Iraq.
….he believes standing up to fight is better than laying down and dying.
“We’re being killed in our homes, so why not defend ourselves? Then even if we die, we die with dignity,” he said.,,,
His stand should be appreciated and should be a lesson to the others.. And the world should support them, by supplying them with the arms.
David says
It’s called self defense. The term “reverse-Jihad” is not really appropriate here.
IntrovertExert25 says
Wow, a lot of crazies came out with this one.
How can we help the Christians who are fighting the jihadists? Unlikely they will have a formal group name yet, but once they do, they go straight to the top of the donation list.
Bezelel says
In a one on one confrontation over civil matters that most certainly is preferable to brawling and making spiritual progress a higher priority than the material. That is a working formula to elevate humanity from the animal nature as opposed to islamic “theology” which encourages the dog eat dog behaviour.
Could you sit idly by and watch a child be murdered?
Uncle Vladdi says
Wow.
This is (literally) a First!
profitsbeard says
The fight for Civilization against Barbarism is how you reverse the Jihad.
And then crush it.
And ultimately debunk its root cause: the damned Koran.
As long as the Koran remains unexposed as the pious fraud that it is, this brutal book will spawn homicidal maniacs ~forever.
dumbledoresarmy says
The Order of the Phoenix.
God bless them.