Via 10news.dk, translated from Avpixlat:
During the early hours of Friday, a not yet completed mosque in Hageby in Norrköping were set on fire …
Later that same day it emerged that the it was due to a conflict between different religious groups. According to the newspaper NT, the conflict consists of young criminals in the area with different Islamic beliefs. The conflict has intensified recently.
“This is just the beginning! More will burn — believe me,” says a young man who wishes to remain anonymous. He says he knows who set fire to the mosque …
“They go too far when they burn down a sacred building, this will result in revenge attacks,” the young man says.
shrugger says
*sigh* Let the unfortunate games…begin.
Sorry Sweden, it’s too late.
Anti left winger says
Lol SWEDEN YOU DESERVE THIS FOR LETTING THESE SCUM RAPE YOUR WOMEN AND APPEASING THEM AT EVERY TURN.
Angemon says
Dear Swedish
peoplePC MC leftist elites:Muslims don’t tolerate one another. How do you expect them to tolerate the natives?
Best regards,
Angemon.
BC says
As I have said many times. When they stop killing each other and concentrate on the rest of us, we will really have a lot to worry about. Look to ISIS as an example.
jewdog says
Sweden, land of the midnight mosque blaze.
Richie says
This is not rocket science
DEPORT THEM!!!!!!
Richie says
Another similarity Islam has with the Nazis- in addition to wanting to kill off all the Jews and being total fascists, Muslims, like the Nazis, had no problem killing their own
SuperSwede says
It’s not certain that this is a shia vs sunni conflict.
The reports also speculate that it could be christian assyrians that have burned down the mosque. I guess that their families are being slaughtered by IS in Syria in Iraq right now and they decided to take action.
There is a large assyrian population in Norrköping and they are not known to be as soft and forgiving as the rest of the Christians in this country.
dumbledoresarmy says
Perhaps you should be demanding that *more* Assyrian Christians be granted asylum (and that Muslim immigration be curtailed or stopped altogether, in order to make room for the Christians of Mosul).
But if you admit these Christians, more Swedes need to understand about dhimmitude, and the reality that many of these Assyrian Christians have been psychologically harmed by over a millennium of Muslim abuse of their community, and will need help to get over that abuse.
Write to the Swedish Democrats and ask them to see about arranging with Aussie scholar Rev Dr Mark Durie, for his important book “The Third Choice: Islam, Dhimmitude and Freedom” and its companion booklet “Liberty to the Captives” (road-tested and proven-to-work procedures for de-dhimmi-ing dhimmis and helping ex-Muslims rid themselves of every last skerrick of the Cult Programming) be translated into Swedish, ASAP.
Indeed, it would be great if the Swedish Democrats, or even a group of the less-dhimmi Swedish churches, could bring Dr Durie to Sweden to talk about Islam, the sharia, and dhimmitude.
Note: your English is excellent, and Dr Durie’s books are paperback and not expensive. I think you would find “The Third Choice” most illuminating. He is a friend of Bat Yeor and has distilled and built upon her pioneering work on dhimmitude.
Here is his blog.
http://markdurie.blogspot.com.au/
Go here
http://www.markdurie.com/
and click on “books” to buy his books.
He is a parish priest in Melbourne, but he is an expert scholar of linguistics and in the 1990s lived in Aceh in Indonesia, studying their language and literature, which is where he first became aware of Islam. He has done advanced study of Islam at Leiden under the brilliant non-dhimmi Dutch scholar, Hans Jansen.
His book “Revelation? Do We Worship the Same God?” (now revised and expanded and republished under the title “Which God?”) should be read by all Christian pastors and priests so that they can protect their flocks from the lies of mohammedans who like to tell gullible Christians that “we worship the same god” and “we (Muslims) respect Jesus too”.
Angemon says
dumbledoresarmy posted
“Note: your English is excellent, and Dr Durie’s books are paperback and not expensive”
And at least The Third Choice is available in e-book format, if you fear reading it in public might raise the wrong kind of attention.
SuperSwede says
Thank you for the tips about the books and the links dumbledoresarmy, I will look into them!
I absolutely think that more information is our only way to put an end to this. Unfortunately very little is translated into Swedish. But I do my best to try to educate people, without scaring them off.
The assyrians have brought their own problems to this country, a lof of crime and mafia-like structures, so it’s not a group that I would want to see more of here.
cat says
Mark Durie is a great guy. Very calm, rational, knows his stuff and is a good hearted man. I knew Islam was bad but really had no idea until I invited him to address a group I was running. His talk got me interested in learning more about Islam. If you have any money to spare he needs funds to support his work against Islam.
Gardener says
I don’t agree with the asylum solution.
Evacuating the last Christians from the Middle East and inevitably turning most of them into liberal drones in a couple of generations devoid of their ancestral language, religion, and culture is precisely not the direction you want to go in. It is basically to euthanize Aramaic and turn swaths of Eastern Christianity into a museum piece. For what purpose? Christians have been subjected to genocides and persecutions before and continued to exist. What people need to do is to support Assyrian Christians where they are.
Persecution has been the name of the game since Christ was killed on the cross. The solution is not escape. The solution is more gospel, more faith, more Christians. The Christian faith is about sacrifice for love, not about sacrifice for fear. The Assyrian Christians in Iraq are closer to Christ than most of us are in our comfy armchair Christianities where we’ve lost sight of what our faith really is.
dumbledoresarmy says
Let’s look on the bright side: that’s one less mosque.
If the mohammedans attack and burn each other’s mosques…well, that means they are destroying each other’s military bases, command posts, ammo dumps, and weapon and bomb factories.
Good riddance.
Duck says
When they are done killing each other, they will continue with the Swedes
gravenimage says
“This is just the beginning! More will burn — believe me”
………………………………
This quote applies to any nation with a burgeoning Mohammedan population…
God, I hate Islam.
SpiritOf1683 says
Sweden hasn’t officially tasted war for 207 years, since the days of Napoleon. It looks like their next taste of war is coming, and it is right on their streets. They’ve let this happen by throwing open the gates to hostile Muslims who expect native Swedes to conform to their own ways, or else. Sweden has been destroyed by its politicians and political correctness amongst its own population, and now they’re reaping the whirlwind. If its bad now, imagine what Stockholm, Gothenburg and Malmo will be like 50 years from now.
SuperSwede says
Mad Max. That’s what it will be like.
John Magee says
In the year 2054 those who are thirty and under in Sweden today will face a world vastly different from the Sweden of the late 20th century. They will be unwanted strangers in their own land. The misplaced idealism and generosity of their grandparents generation will have destroyed Sweden as it was known up until the end of the 20th century. Why should we care about stories like this anymore? The Swede’s brought this upon themselves with the help of a few outsiders.
Mary_Gonzales says
Later somebody will barks “Israel was behind it” …LOL
Oliver says
No, as Obama and his minions say about everything (or is it down to ALMOST everything) that is wrong: ” IT IS GEORGE BUSH’S FAULT.
No two ways about it.
George W. Bush is responsible.
( being sarcastic, but not to the writer to whom I am replying)
Jay Boo says
Peaceful Place
The Sunni and Shia Muslims had all just expired;
Judgment Day would now reveal which was desired.
“Side by side” they debated by the Paradise gate.
Soon the righteous from the “others” would separate.
Said the gate angel, with a reassuring smile,
“Each name is pending, no need to rile.”
“The unearned gift will answer all you needs.”
Yet, goodwill, none to other, would first concede.
In their hearts they held but a fragile key.
Their last chance each refused to see.
Pious pride demanded sole entry past the gate.
True Believers need enemies to kill or at least disgrace.
Not teachable are those who insist to preach.
Their hateful wishes were all fulfilled for one to each.
The angel promised that all unworthy names would be erased.
You see, paradise has no place for these Muslims lacking grace.
The angel turned away, murmuring along the way.
“Such a terrible waste,
so much noise, displayed as faith…
Ah… Paradise! It quietly waits,
ever safe beyond self-made gates.”
“IT’S SUCH A PEACEFUL PLACE.”
The “True believers” and “Chosen few” nevertheless together abide,
in that other place, forever trapped, slowly ROASTING “side by side.”
steve c says
Is the mosque Sunni or Shia? If someone could find this out, it might help make more sense of this story.
From Mark Steyn’s latest piece:
” And after the last three years, surrounded by al-Qaeda affiliates and Iranian proxies and Turkish meddlers, Egypt and the Sunni monarchies grasp something that the American blunderers don’t: Israel is a force for stability, and, with everything else up for grabs in a way it hasn’t been since 1922, that’s what these guys are looking for right now”
“It’s an interesting development in this hideous Israel-Palestine stalemate, because in effect now, Israel is on the Sunni side of the Sunni-Shia split in the Middle East”
Jay Boo says
When Muslims burn yet another church the MSM scramble to find non-Islamic euphemisms, if they report at all.
A mosque set on fire should be a smorgasbord of media all over this.
Oh the humanity! — the Islamophobia
Oh Muslims did it.
Oliver says
I agree with you; after the Russian Muslim terrorists set off the bombs at the Boston Marathon, one of the lame stream media’s spokesperson ( I forgot who–was quoted in a WSJ blog-at the time) that he (or she) HOPED THE BOMBS were set off by WHITES.
They were-white (as opposed to brown or black) Muslims.
But-the seeking to remove responsibility from where it belongs.
At the same time, one (or more) people were upset that the police-not sure if the ones who wounded the living dirtbag or the ones who killed his brother- “didn’t have a vido to prove that he was firing at them”.
Sick bastards-both the Muslims and their apologists.
My opinion.
Oliver says
I agree with you; after the Russian Muslim terrorists set off the bombs at the Boston Marathon, one of the lame stream media’s spokesperson ( I forgot who–was quoted in a WSJ blog-at the time) that he (or she) HOPED THE BOMBS were set off by WHITES.
They were-white (as opposed to brown or black) Muslims.
But-the seeking to remove responsibility from where it belongs.
At the same time, one (or more) people were upset that the police-not sure if the ones who wounded the living dirtbag or the ones who killed his brother- “didn’t have a vido to prove that he was firing at them”.
Sick bastards-both the Muslims and their apologists.
My opinion.
Oliver says
In my view, this was TERRIBLE news.
It was unfinished ( and therefore presumed to be empty).
NOW, if it were packed with a few hundred Muslims and the other Muslim sect burned it, that would be good ( my opinion)- as ridding the earth of a few hundred terrorists or potential terrorists.
But an empty, uncompleted building? nothing; just some time and labor ( and money) wasted.
Again, my view
Semeru says
This article is a total joke.
The photo at the top of the article has nothing to do with the incident, it is Sennels/Spencer projecting and spicing up this article
Firstly Sennels has nothing to support it has anything to to with the Sunni/Shia conflict, and could be just as likely Sunni/Assyrian.
Now in Sweden, on many building sites, containers are used as barracks for storring building materials, changing rooms etc, etc.
Sennels above article quotes “According to the newspaper NT ………..” so let us go to NT and see what it has to say. Halfway throughout the report we find this interesting snippet
Enligt Norrköpings Islamiska Center var det de baracker som skulle komma att bli moskén som drabbades av branden.
Translation
According Norrköping Islamic Center was the barracks would become mosque hit by fire.
http://www.nt.se/nyheter/kraftig-brand-i-moskbyggnad-10006343.aspx
I very much doubt there was much of a mosque to be burnt, as construction doesn’t normally start until the barracks for the building personel are completed. The barracks where only only erected one day before they where torched.
I maj fick föreningen bygglov, och i torsdags ställdes de första barackerna på plats.
Translation
In May, the Association received a building permit, and last Thursday was the first barracks on the site.
http://www.nt.se/nyheter/konflikt-mellan-kriminella-ungdomar-kan-ligga-bakom-branden-10006725.aspx
In both links there are photos of the fire, it is not a mosque, but barracks.
Angemon says
“This article is a total joke.
The photo at the top of the article has nothing to do with the incident, it is Sennels/Spencer projecting and spicing up this article”
OH, what a blow to their credibility! Dr. Sennels didn’t have a photo of the incident so he used a stock photo. The obfuscation here is that nowhere it says that the photo was from the incident. Raymond Ibrahim has used the same photo on many of his posts and I never saw you complaining.
“Firstly Sennels has nothing to support it has anything to to with the Sunni/Shia conflict, and could be just as likely Sunni/Assyrian.”
“Just as likely”? Because the news call it “religious conflict” and Assyrian is a religion, right? Dumbass.
“Sennels above article quotes “According to the newspaper NT ………..” so let us go to NT and see what it has to say. Halfway throughout the report we find this interesting snippet
Enligt Norrköpings Islamiska Center var det de baracker som skulle komma att bli moskén som drabbades av branden.
Translation
According Norrköping Islamic Center was the barracks would become mosque hit by fire.
http://www.nt.se/nyheter/kraftig-brand-i-moskbyggnad-10006343.aspx”
And earlier on we find this:
“Kraftig brand i moskébyggnad”
Which according to Google Translate means:
“Heavy fire in the mosque building”
And this:
“Moskébyggnaden i Hageby fick omfattande skador efter en kraftig brand under natten mot fredag.”
Meaning, according to GT:
“Mosque building in Hageby suffered extensive damage after a severe fire in the early hours of Friday.”
Also “According Norrköping Islamic Center was the barracks would become mosque hit by fire.“? And you said Dr. Sennels was a bad translator. At least his translations aren’t done using Google Translate.
“I very much doubt there was much of a mosque to be burnt, as construction doesn’t normally start until the barracks for the building personel are completed. The barracks where only only erected one day before they where torched.”
Wait a minute. You just wrote that “the barracks would become mosque“. Now you’re saying that the barracks are built before the mosque? Talk about goldfish memory. In any case, even the article you posted says a mosque was burned down, and you’re trying to claim that Dr. Sennels’ article is dubious because it tells a mosque was burned down, like it says on the original articles. You’re making even less sense than usual, dunce.
Semeru says
agrononse
OH, what a blow to their credibility! Dr. Sennels didn’t have a photo of the incident so he used a stock photo.
Ha!! there are plenty of photo in the links I supplied
http://www.nt.se/nyheter/konflikt-mellan-kriminella-ungdomar-kan-ligga-bakom-branden-10006725.aspx
http://www.nt.se/nyheter/kraftig-brand-i-moskbyggnad-10006343.aspx”
Sennels did not use any of the photos from the alleged mosque fire, because if he did it would expose his BS, all the photos from the incident, show baracks on fire, and not a mosque. Surely if a mosque was burning it would make more sensational images.
Sennels has no excuse for using stock photos when there are plenty of photos of the incident, and instead of spewing verbal diarrhea, open either of the links there is also a video
More BS fro the slimy turk agrononse
Just as likely”? Because the news call it “religious conflict” and Assyrian is a religion, right? Dumbass.
Yes and Sennels titles the article Sunni/Shia conflict arrives in Sweden with nothing to support the claim
It is also just a likely that the cuprit could be members of a gang called MB (Muslim Brotherhood) who have had conflicts with sunni muslims.
Who Knows
agrononse again spews
Wait a minute. You just wrote that “the barracks would become mosque“. Now you’re saying that the barracks are built before the mosque? Talk about goldfish memory. In any case, even the article you posted says a mosque was burned down, and you’re trying to claim that Dr. Sennels’ article is dubious because it tells a mosque was burned down, like it says on the original articles.
Ah, it also in the orginal article it states
According Norrköping Islamic Center was the barracks would become mosque hit by fire.
http://www.nt.se/nyheter/kraftig-brand-i-moskbyggnad-10006343.aspx”
Now Now, another source reports
Det brann på flera platser när vi kom dit så det tyder på att branden kan vara anlagd, säger Stefan Hagdahl, inre befäl vid räddningstjänsten i Norrköping.
Själva moskébygget ska ha klarat sig undan elden och inga människor ska ha skadats.
translation
It was burning in several places when we got there so it suggests that the fire may be arson, said Stefan Hagdahl, inner officers at the emergency services in Norrköping.
The mosque building escaped the fire and no people have been injured.
http://sverigesradio.se/sida/artikel.aspx?programid=160&artikel=5922067
Now it gets even better
If you open the link below. You will see in the side bar a video titled
Nedbrunna moskén var knappt påbörjad
Translalation
Burnt mosque was barely begun
http://www.nt.se/nyheter/norrkoping/konflikt-mellan-kriminella-ungdomar-kan-ligga-bakom-branden-10006725.aspx
Now over the years, there is mountains of evidence of moslems squealing like little piggies at the slightest damage done to a mosque, so if the was any damage to this mosqe, why are the moslems are saying that only the barracks where set alight, and say nothing about damage to the mosque.
I have given enough links containing photos and video and there is not one single image of a burning or burnt mosque
In the same article are photos to support what the Islamic Center say.
Sennel cannot support his claim that this is related to the Sunni/shia conflict, he cannot even produce a photo of the mosque in Hageby burning. what he does is use a still from the film by Sharmeen Obaid Chinoy called Sharmeen Obaid Chinoy
“Filmmaker Shameen Obaid-Chinoy visits the southern city of Malmo to find out how first and second generation Muslims are integrating into their adopted homeland. In the immigrant ghetto of Rosengard, she explores a moderate Mosque under siege, young Muslims struggling to be accepted by Swedish society”
Angemon says
Sharmoota vomited:
“Ha!! there are plenty of photo(sic) in the links I supplied”
More obfuscation from the dumbass. You “supplied” links? Does that mean that you contacted Dr. Sennels and gave him links regarding the story he shared here? I seriously doubt that. Dr. Sennels’s source is up there: he translated an article from Avpixlat which had no pics of the burning of the mosque.
“Sennels did not use any of the photos from the alleged mosque fire, because if he did it would expose his BS, all the photos from the incident, show baracks (sic) on fire, and not a mosque. Surely if a mosque was burning it would make more sensational images.”
Now this is where Duncemeru’s crossing into “make a bigger ass of himself” territory. Well, crossing even further. Truth is simpler than fiction: Dr. Sennels’s source is an article from Avpixlat which had no pics of the burning of the mosque. IIRC, this is not the first time you seek to discredit a news article by picking on the picture. In any case, you can’t make this up: the dunce quoted from articles saying that a mosque was burned down and is now backpedaling and denying a mosque was burned down. Remember, Duncemeru’s links state that a mosque was burned down, but now he’s saying that there was no such thing as a mosque being burned down and that Dr. Sennels made it all up.
“Yes and Sennels titles the article Sunni/Shia conflict arrives in Sweden with nothing to support the claim”
Except for the war between sunni and shia going on since the 7th century which is still raging strong nowadays. Dumbass. If it had been non-muslims burning down the mosque then would see mentions of “islamophobia” and “hate crime”.
“The mosque building escaped the fire and no people have been injured.
[…]
Now it gets even better
[…]
Burnt mosque was barely begun”
Oh, it gets better indeed. First you claim the mosque escaped the fire then you claim the burned mosque had barely begun being build. So which way is it dumbass? Was a mosque burned down or not? You can’t have it both ways.
“Now over the years, there is mountains of evidence of moslems squealing like little piggies at the slightest damage done to a mosque”
Yes, we know how you act when you perceive a critic to islam and/or muslims.
“I have given enough links containing photos and video and there is not one single image of a burning or burnt mosque”
Next you’d have us believe there was no fire at at all. Remember, even links you posted say that a mosque was burned down. Whether it was fully build or had just began being build is irrelevant. How about you pick a story and stick with it instead of blaming the muslim brotherhood for burning down a mosque that wasn’t burned down at all because even though the links you posted mention a burned mosque there’s no visual evidence of it?
PS: Why would non-muslims burn down a mosque? Burning down delays the construction but throwing a couple of pig heads, some pounds of ribs and bacon, and a few gallons of pig blood is much more likely to ensure a mosque will never be build in any given location.
http://sheikyermami.com/wp-content/uploads/Pig-Koran2.jpg
Fredrik von Sweden says
Brothers and sisters.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts about the escalating situation in Sweden.
I have read some of your comments and feel that too many people are jealous about Sweden. We have had Peace in our country more than 200 years and now the mobb (looking at the Group of people adding comments here) are looking forward to a civil war in Sweden anyday.
The situation is the same in the US, United Kingdom, France, Denmark, Belgium, Germany, Netherlands, Norway, Sweden – not even Russia is free from this kind of events.
Instead of laughing about Sweden and saying that Swedish people deserve a civil war because we have not suffered war for more than 200 years and we where stupid to open the gates to help people from developing countries in Africa, Middle East and Asia.
We need to reach out over the borders. We all face the same challenges. Alone no country will be able to win the battlefield – but united we can win.
In the future I hope that when I read articles in international media that there are not so much hate against Swedish people. We consider us to be atheists whereas the reality is that we have followed the guidelines in the Holy Bible from A to Z.
Everyone need to open eyes to see what Globalism, New World Order and Islamism aim to achieve in the Western world – because this battlefield is not about Sweden – this is the fight about who will rule the world in the coming 100 years.
If we help each other the chances are that the good forces may win this battlefield.
Semeru says
More obfuscation from the dumbass. You “supplied” links? Does that mean that you contacted Dr. Sennels and gave him links regarding the story he shared here? I seriously doubt that.
From earlier experience, from another site Sennels does not acknowledge criticism. Also on several threads here I have supplied links that contradict what Sennels claim, but he has not responded.
Dr. Sennels’s source is up there: he translated an article from Avpixlat which had no pics of the burning of the mosque.
Yes very true, he translated from Avpixlat. Firstly, Avpixlat is not a news source, but an anti islam/anti immigration blog run by Mats Dahlgren of Swedish Democrats.
The avpixlat article gives no source, but, it is composed of copy/paste from various articles from NT.
They also wrote
Enligt tidningen NT ska konflikten bestå av unga kriminella i området med olika trosuppfattning, vilken ska ha intensifierats under den senaste tiden.
Translation
According to the newspaper NT, the conflict consist of young criminals in the area with different beliefs, which must have been intensified in the recent past.
Then Avpixlat copy/pasted directly from NT.
Avpixlat aslo give a link to NT where there is an image of the fire but as it was not of a burning mosque but a building chose not to use any photos from the fire, but use a totally unrelated photo of friday prayers at the Masjid Negara, Kuala Lumpur. Avpixlat could not put up an image of of local mosque, but take the image from wiki.
So Avpixlat gave a link to the original article with photos, so there is no excuse for Avpixlat or Sennels to use unrelated images.
Like the saying goes, images speak louder than words, and the images of the building barracks is proof enough to cast the whole story of the mosque in doubt, plus the owner also state that it so the barracks that where set alight.
No Sennels/Avpixlat have not used the photos because they contradict there agenda.
angenom (brown eyes)
Next you’d have us believe there was no fire at at all.
You are full of shit, if I wanted you to believe there was no fire, then why would I post links to the fire. The fact is nobody here including you and Sennels have posted links to the fire. I am the only one you has supplied visual evidence that there was a fire. So far all the images are of the barracks being burnt, not one single image of the mosque
Why are there no images of the burnt mosque. Surely, if the mosque was burnt, why aren’t the moslem putting up images and playing the victim.
The most likely scenario here is there was a fire at the building site of the mosque and barrack were set alight, and the dhimmified media blow the whole incident out of proportion and are playing the victim card on behalf of the moslems
Remember the owner of the mosque have stated that it was the barracks that where burnt.
I do not know why you keep sending pig photos, I do not think they are funny, neither do they offend me, all the do is expose you as a bigot with a mentality of a 12 year old imbecile
Angemon says
Duncemeru posted:
“From earlier experience, from another site Sennels does not acknowledge criticism.”
That raises a lot of questions. Criticism from who, you? Can’t be because my experience with you on this site is that you’re unable to think logically and make sound criticism. So, what did you do? Posted nonsense and got called an idiot?
“Also on several threads here I have supplied links that contradict what Sennels claim, but he has not responded.”
You “supplied” links? Did you contact Dr. Sennels and sent him anything? I doubt that. Your “contradictory” links here actually support what Dr. Sennels says, that a mosque was burned down. You know that and being the lying hypocrite that you are you selectively quoted from the middle of an article to say that a mosque was not burned down and to claim Dr. Sennels made up the whole story, hoping no one would notice. Turns out, someone noticed: I pointed out that the article you quoted from said that a mosque was burned down TWICE before the bit you quoted. Your gig’s up and no amount of “pics or it didn’t happen” will change it.
“Firstly, Avpixlat is not a news source, but an anti islam/anti immigration blog run by Mats Dahlgren of Swedish Democrats.”
By which you mean that it’s a politically incorrect blog that reveals the truth about things that the Swedish PC MSM won’t dare to write about.
“Like the saying goes, images speak louder than words, and the images of the building barracks is proof enough to cast the whole story of the mosque in doubt, plus the owner also state that it so the barracks that where set alight.”
And here we go again. Your starting case was along the lines of “I have links that say that a mosque wasn’t burned”. Then I pointed out that you were selectively quoting and that the links you posted actually said that a mosque was burned down and now your case is along the lines of “pics or it didn’t happen”. Reality is simpler than your fictitious narrative: if the mosque was still under construction and the barracks were fully build then it’s very likely that the fire in the barracks would last longer and, as far as I know, there were no reporters at the scene when the incident took place.
“No Sennels/Avpixlat have not used the photos because they contradict there(sic) agenda.”
“There” agenda? Ignorant dumbass. Anyway, what agenda would that be? This is classic islamic mindset, there’s always someone out to get you.
“You are full of shit, if I wanted you to believe there was no fire, then why would I post links to the fire.”
Did i say you want us to believe there was no fire? This tactic of replying to things i never said is a waste of time, don’t you think? But i guess pretending to have the upper hand on me is as close as you’ll ever get to the real thing.
“I do not know why you keep sending pig photos”
“Sending” photos? I don’t have your contact (or anyone else’s) so I’m not “sending” photos to anyone, dumbass, I’m posting links to images. Don’t like it then stop clicking on them, numbnut. Oh, and I only posted one photo here. “Photo” is singular, “photos” is plural. It’s a simple concept, really, not sure why you’re having such a hard time getting it. BTW, it was this one:
http://sheikyermami.com/wp-content/uploads/Pig-Koran2.jpg
Had whoever burned down the mosque did something like that then it’s likely the building process was halted so it’s completely on topic, dimwit. “Like the saying goes, images speak louder than words“. Isn’t that right, dumbass?
“I do not think they are funny, neither do they offend me, all the do is expose you as a bigot with a mentality of a 12 year old imbecile”
That means I managed to go back enough in the evolutionary tree to get into your mindset. BTW, if i’m “a bigot with a mentality of a 12 year old imbecile” what does that say about you since every time you try to argue me you get creamed?
Any way, why are you making such a big fuss and trying to get us to believe that a mosque was not burned down when your links say just that? Like i said, pick a story and stick with it, dammit!
Semeru says
Explain why Sennels/Avpixlat did not use photos from the fire, especially when Avpixlated linked to the site which had photos, explain why Sennels/avpixlat used totally unrelated photos. Why did Sennels use a still from a film, was it to spice up this article?
There are more than if atrocious incidents to indict islam, there is no need for Sennels to resort to palliwood method. There is enough crap going down to Scandinavia, without fabricating or exaggerating .
Sennel should stop sensationalizing, and start report on things that are really happening in Sweden, such as how small villages in Jämtland are being swamped with moslems, or how islamist are running mosques in northern Norway.
Sennels would do everybody a favor if he stop writing bullshit and report about the invasion of small villages like Kåxas, Hammerdal, Jämtlands Änge in the north of Sweden, or the invasion of village such as Svalöv, Landskrona in the Ssouth, instead of sensationalizing the fire of a barrack on a building site of a mosque.
Fact 1 Sennels used an unrelated image to spice up the story
Fact 2 Sennels titles the article Sunni/Shia conflict arrives in Sweden based upon the report that gangs of different religions could be involved. This strongly suggests points in the direction of Assyrians. Because the average local reporter is most likely ignorant to the Sunni/Shia conflict and would lump them together as moslems, exactly the same as you lumped catholic/protestants together in an earlier thread.
BTW, off topic, occasionally the people in the village I live take the dogs out and go hunting wild boar, which they roast and the whole village has a good nosh up, most of the villagers are moslem.
Angemon says
Duncemeru posted:
“Explain why Sennels/Avpixlat did not use photos from the fire”
Sennels/Avpixlat? Are they one single entity now? Like i said, Dr. Sennels translated from the Avpixlat article, which had no pics of the fire. That’s a fact. As to why Avpixlat didn’t have pics from the fire you’ll have to ask them.
“especially when Avpixlated linked to the site which had photos”
Perhaps Avpixlated, being a politically incorrect blog, wasn’t willing to risk possible copyright infringement claims for using someone else’s photo. Like i said, you have to ask them that instead of raging on about Dr. Sennels hidden agenda. What’s with muslims and conspiracy theories, anyway?
“There are more than if atrocious incidents to indict islam, there is no need for Sennels to resort to palliwood method. There is enough crap going down to Scandinavia, without fabricating or exaggerating .”
And yet, when Dr. Sennels reports on what’s going on, we have islamic apologists like you pretending he’s making stuff up.
“Fact 1 Sennels used an unrelated image to spice up the story”
Actually, the only fact there is that the story on JW has a photo that’s not from the occurrence itself. The “spice up the story” bit is your wild speculation.
“Fact 2 Sennels titles the article Sunni/Shia conflict arrives in Sweden based upon the report that gangs of different religions could be involved. This strongly suggests points in the direction of Assyrians.”
And there you go again claiming “Assyrian” is a religion. Nope, it doesn’t “strongly suggests points” that it was someone else other than muslims. Notice that the news article quotes a young man who saying he knows who set fire to the mosque. Did he said it was someone else other than muslims? If he had said so then the news would talk of “islamophobia” and “religious hate”. Besides that, if the goal was to prevent the construction of the mosque, a couple of pig heads, a few pounds of bacon and a few gallons of pig blood would do the trick. Something like this:
http://sheikyermami.com/wp-content/uploads/Pig-Koran2.jpg
“Because the average local reporter is most likely ignorant to the Sunni/Shia conflict and would lump them together as moslems”
So you’re saying that it “strongly suggests points in the direction of Assyrians” because “most likely” reporters don’t know about sunni/shia conflict, even though they interviewed a young man claiming to know who started the fire? That’s speculation, not a fact.
So, the first of your “facts” is 50/50 fact/speculation and the second is based on a possibility that not only can’t be quantified, it also goes against what’s in the article. Hardly smoking guns for your inordinate apologism of islam. BTW, why are you ruling out the muslim brotherhood now?
Semeru says
Simple fact is the article is about a fire at a building of a mosque, so Sennels had to have a image of a mosque burning, but only images of barracks burning, he used a still from a film.
Now lets us assume that it was Assyrian behind the attack, and moslems see the picture Sennels has used, many moslem are are going to get pissed off
What Sennels has done is no different than the Danish Imans passing of the false motoons.
Yes criticize Islam as much as you want, resorting to Palliwood tactics is counter productive.
Ok brown eyes that all for now on the thread.
Angemon says
Dense Dunce posted:
“Simple fact is the article is about a fire at a building of a mosque, so Sennels had to have a image of a mosque burning, but only images of barracks burning, he used a still from a film.”
What a garbled mess. I guess it speaks for your state of mind.
“Now lets us assume that it was Assyrian behind the attack”
Let’s not. Like i stated, it’s far more likely it was indeed the result of a conflict involving shia/sunni than the result of a conflict involving the non-existing Assyrian religion.
“and moslems see the picture Sennels has used, many moslem are are going to get pissed off”
Muslims are already pissed off, hence why they burned a mosque. Duh!
“What Sennels has done is no different than the Danish Imans passing of the false motoons.”
It’s very different since Dr. Sennels isn’t shoving this article in the faces of muslims and telling them that someone is disrespecting them.
“Yes criticize Islam as much as you want, resorting to Palliwood tactics is counter productive.”
Good thing Dr. Sennels is only reporting on events that took place then. “Palliwod” is a term that refers to media manipulation, distortion and outright fraud by the “palestinians”. See, what Dr. Sennels did here was to translate an article from Dane to English. Remember, even your links mention that a mosque was burned, so Dr. Sennels is not making anything up.
“Ok brown eyes that all for now on the thread.”
Not sure if i believe you. You were never one to stop posting after being proved wrong.
Semeru says
So long as you or Sennel cannot prove that Shia moslims started the fire, then I have not been proven wrong.,and as long as Sennels cannot prove that this has anything to do with the Shia/Sunni conflict then Sennels is a liar, and you are not much better.
I was not intending post more on this thread, but after reading the translation that Sennels used for the article I noticed the following.
According to the newspaper NT, the conflict consists of young criminals in the area with different Islamic beliefs. The conflict has intensified recently.
So to double check I opened up the link to avpixlat and read it through again, and there was nothing about criminals with islamic beliefs. What was written is as follows
Enligt tidningen NT ska konflikten bestå av unga kriminella i området med olika trosuppfattning, vilken ska ha intensifierats under den senaste tiden.
Translation
According to the newspaper NT, the conflict consist of young criminals in the area with different beliefs, which have intensified recently.
http://avpixlat.info/2014/07/27/sveriges-berikas-nu-aven-med-religiosa-konflikter/
So the avpixlat article says absolutely nothing about islamic beliefs. Avpixlat links to the newspaper NTand we see tha Avpixlat had quoted exactly NT
Enligt tidningen NT ska konflikten bestå av unga kriminella i området med olika trosuppfattning, vilken ska ha intensifierats under den senaste tiden.
Translation
According to the newspaper NT, the conflict consist of young criminals in the area with different beliefs, which have intensified recently.
http://avpixlat.info/2014/07/27/sveriges-berikas-nu-aven-med-religiosa-konflikter/
Again nothing about nothing about criminals with islamic beliefs
95% of the people here cannot read Swedish, so this blatant lie would slip through unnoticed.
I do read and speech Swedish extremely well,and can read Norwregian and Danish so there, and i have noticed many discrepancies with what Sennels writes in English and the sources that are written in Swedish, Norwregian and Danish.
I do have problems writing in the languages, the same as I have problems writing in English. I am one of those people who have problems with writing, it is nothing to be ashamed of.
Anyways, back to the article
# 1 Sennel has used an image that has nothing to do with the incident. He did not caption the image to say that it was not related. He used the image so as to let people think that it was the mosque in the article. On this point Sennels is dishonest
#2 There is nothing in any newspapers that say this is sunni/shia related, nor is there any evidence to support Sennels claim. On this point Sennels is dishonest
#3 Sennels writes accordingly to the NT newspaper the conflict consists of young criminals in the area with different Islamic beliefs. Here we see Sennels insert islamic beliefs, where as in both Avpixlat and NT there is no mention of Islamic beliefs.
Before I go any further I opened the 10new.DK to see if they had inserted young criminals in the area with different Islamic beliefs sure enough it was there. Ho ho, this doesn’t let Sennels of the hook, because it is Sennel,s English Newsletter site.
So on this point Sennels proves to be a liar, so If Sennels can lies about this matter, how many other articles has he lied about.
Angemon says
Dumb Dunce posted:
“So long as you or Sennel cannot prove that Shia moslims started the fire, then I have not been proven wrong.,and as long as Sennels cannot prove that this has anything to do with the Shia/Sunni conflict then Sennels is a liar, and you are not much better.”
Wait a minute dumbass. Who said anything about shias starting the fire? The article only states “shia/sunni” conflict, so it could very well be sunnis who burned down the mosque. Strawmen won’t get you anywhere. Also, you’re doing the equivalent “tails i win, heads you lose”: if Dr. Sennels can’t prove that it’s a shia/sunni conflict he’s a liar but you’re not a liar even though you claimed that it was “Assyrians” or the muslim brotherhood? Nice try dumbass, but no one is falling for that.
“ was not intending post more on this thread, but after reading the translation that Sennels used for the article I noticed the following.”
So, after 4 days and several posts in you decided to read what the article Dr. Sennels translated from, which was what you should have done in the first place? Thank you for proving you came into this topic with the intent of smearing Dr. Sennels’ reputation.
“So the avpixlat article says absolutely nothing about islamic beliefs. Avpixlat links to the newspaper NTand we see tha Avpixlat had quoted exactly NT
[…]
Again nothing about nothing about criminals with islamic beliefs”
Which begs the question: are there non-muslims living in the area? If there are, why aren’t the news reports would surely mentioning it? If there aren’t then it’s a fair assumption that it’s shia and sunni, seeing how they’re the largest islamic denominations. Now, do you know the area and the people who live there?
“95% of the people here cannot read Swedish, so this blatant lie would slip through unnoticed.”
“Blatant lie”? No, no, no, no, no. I already explained why “shia/sunni” is a fair assumption. Remember your “logic”? “as long as Sennels cannot prove that this has anything to do with the Shia/Sunni conflict then Sennels is a liar“? Here is the exact same case: as long as you cannot prove that this has nothing to do with the Shia/Sunni conflict then you are a liar.
“I do read and speech Swedish extremely well”
Well enough to copy/paste portions from google translate…
“# 1 Sennel has used an image that has nothing to do with the incident. He did not caption the image to say that it was not related. He used the image so as to let people think that it was the mosque in the article. On this point Sennels is dishonest”
Once again, let’s use your “logic”: as long as you cannot prove Dr. Sennels wanted people to think the pic was from the mosque in the article then you are a liar.
“#2 There is nothing in any newspapers that say this is sunni/shia related, nor is there any evidence to support Sennels claim. On this point Sennels is dishonest”
There’s nothing in any newspapers that say this isn’t sunni/shia related either. I already explained why sunni/shi is the most logical explanation. Once again, by your logic, if you can’t prove that this isn’t related to the sunni/shia conflict then you’re the liar.
“#3 Sennels writes accordingly to the NT newspaper the conflict consists of young criminals in the area with different Islamic beliefs. Here we see Sennels insert islamic beliefs, where as in both Avpixlat and NT there is no mention of Islamic beliefs.”
Can you bring forth irrefutable evidence that it were non-muslims who burned the mosque? Fact is, if it had been non-muslims doing the deed it’s quite likely we’d been seeing riots in the streets due to “islamophobia”, not to mention the islamophilic government groveling and pandering to the poor, persecuted muslims.
“Before I go any further I opened the 10new.DK to see if they had inserted young criminals in the area with different Islamic beliefs sure enough it was there. Ho ho, this doesn’t let Sennels of the hook, because it is Sennel,s English Newsletter site.
So on this point Sennels proves to be a liar, so If Sennels can lies about this matter, how many other articles has he lied about.”
And there you go again with “Dr. Sennels lied”. Like i said, you came here only with the intent of smearing Dr. Sennels. But here’s the thing: you haven’t give a shred of evidence to prove anything you said so far. No evidence it was not a conflict between two islamic sects (you even suggested it might have been the muslim brotherhood, remember?) and no evidence that it was Dr. Sennels who translated the article. On the top it just says “Via 10news.dk, translated from Avpixlat“. But here’s the thing: when Dr. Sennels translates something he states it’s his translation:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/06/danish-police-search-mosque-for-firearms-find-machetes-four-men-arrested
“Translated from Ekstrabladet by Nicolai Sennels, via 10news.dk”
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/05/germany-sick-turk-attacks-hospital-nurse-because-too-many-crosses-on-wall
“translated by Nicolai Sennels from Mainpost”
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/05/bosnian-refugee-in-sweden-what-i-fled-from-in-1992-has-now-arrived-here
“Via 10news.dk, translated by Nicolai Sennels from Sydsvenskan”
Now, I don’t see “translated by Nicolai Sennels” anywhere in the article. Do you? If not then it’s very unlikely that Dr. Sennels was the one doing the translation for 10news.dk so all your claims that he’s “dishonest” or that he’s “lying” have no ground to stand on. Not only that, you don’t provide any evidence to any of your claims so, going by your logic, you’re the liar.
So dumbass, you claimed that “Sennels insert islamic beliefs” but it turns out it wasn’t even Dr. Sennels who translated the original article (not to mention you gave us nothing to think it wasn’t a tiff between two islamic sects). What do you have to say for yourself and the pile of dung you tried to smear on him? You owe him an apology for the vile, false statements you made about him and his work.
Angemon says
To be fair, I also started with the assumption that it was Dr. Sennels who translated the original post, but then I noticed he never claimed authorship of it. In any case, you owe him an apology.
Semeru says
Here I wrire
I do read and speech Swedish extremely well,and can read Norwregian and Danish so there, and i have noticed many discrepancies with what Sennels writes in English and the sources that are written in Swedish, Norwregian and Danish.
I do have problems writing in the languages, the same as I have problems writing in English. I am one of those people who have problems with writing, it is nothing to be ashamed of.
Here I admit that do have problems.
Agroponce mocks
Well enough to copy/paste portions from google translate…
As said I do have difficulty writing, and that explains why I use the copy/paste tool
Hey agrononse (brown eyes)
You spew forth more steaming hot crap
Now, I don’t see “translated by Nicolai Sennels” anywhere in the article. Do you? If not then it’s very unlikely that Dr. Sennels was the one doing the translation for 10news.dk so all your claims that he’s “dishonest” or that he’s “lying” have no ground to stand on. Not only that, you don’t provide any evidence to any of your claims so, going by your logic, you’re the liar.
Well Well brown eyes, Like I said I can read also Danish. So when I open up Sennels blog I find that 10news DK is another of Sennels blogs
Open up this link http://nicolaisennels.dk and at the very bottom of the side bar you will find a link
Få mit engelsksprogede nyhedsbrev 10News på 10news.dk
Translation
Get my English language newsletter 10News on 10news.dk
So Sennel urges folk to get his English language newsletter, and seeing that he did not give anybody credit for the translation firmy prove proves that he translated the article,
More crap from brown eyes
So dumbass, you claimed that “Sennels insert islamic beliefs” but it turns out it wasn’t even Dr. Sennels who translated the original article
So what about this from Sennels, Get my English language newsletter 10News on 10news.dk, that good enough proof that Sennels translated the article and inserted inserted islamic beliefs
Now it has been proved with out a doubt that “Islamic belief” was not on the original source or avpixlat, but was inserted at 10News DK and Sennels states that it his translations at 10new DK
so Lets recap
#1 Sennels used an unrelated photo.
# 2 Sennels asumes that it was Shia/Sunni related without proof.
#3 Sennels inserted islam belief to reinforce his lie that it was Shia/Sunni related
Oh Dear Oh dear
Look what I found, here is what the moslem media has to report
Swedish police suspect arson after buildings AT A MOSQUE in Norrköping in eastern Sweden burned down in the early hours of Friday morning.
“Some of the buildings have been saved but there is a great deal of damage, both smoke and water damage,” said Stefan Hagdahl at the emergency services in Östergötland to the local Nörrköpings Tidning daily.
Up to 14 fire fighters from two fire stations in the city battled the blaze which was reported shortly after 1am on Friday. THE FIRE RAVAGED SOME SURROUNDING BUILDINGS. THE MAIN MOSQUE BUILDING MANAGED TO ESCAPE DAMAGE THANKS TO THE EFFORTS OF THE FIRE FIGHTERS.
According to Norrköping Islamic Centre the BUILDINGS WERE DUE TO HAVE BEEN REBUILT INTO A NEW MOSQUE. “We hope that this is cleared up as soon as possible so that the project can be continued,” the centre wrote in a statement.
http://islam.ru/en/content/news/police-fear-arson-after-sweden-mosque-fire
So there you have it, the moslems themselves are saying the mosque was not set on fire, also there are several images to support the fact.
So I have no reason to apologize to Sennels, he is the one lying and making the false statements
One other thing if you look at Sennels Blog, you will see he is not the cleverest of counter Jihadi, he seems to have suicidal tendencies
Angemon says
Dumb Dunce ruminates:
“Here I wrire
I do read and speech Swedish extremely well,and can read Norwregian and Danish so there, and i have noticed many discrepancies with what Sennels writes in English and the sources that are written in Swedish, Norwregian and Danish.
I do have problems writing in the languages, the same as I have problems writing in English. I am one of those people who have problems with writing, it is nothing to be ashamed of.
Here I admit that do have problems.”
What you “wrire” changes what? You still used Google Translate to translate a language you claim to “read and speech extremely well“.
See, the overwhelming majority of the errors in your posts aren’t spelling errors (which you shouldn’t be making anyway, since you claim to use a checker for English) but grammar errors, or errors regarding everyday language like, for example, saying “I do read and speech Swedish extremely well” instead of “I do read and speak Swedish extremely well”, or arbitrarily using “than” and “then”. So much so that it’s easy to spot when you’re copy/pasting info from someplace else: just keep an eyes out for the parts who are written with proper grammar and have no errors. I’d say that’s hardly the hallmark of being extremely good in any given language.
“Sennel urges folk to get his English language newsletter, and seeing that he did not give anybody credit for the translation firmy prove proves that he translated the article”
Nope. That’s the exact opposite of what i said: when he translates he states he did the translation. So if he didn’t stated it was his translation it’s safe to assume that it isn’t. Your “logic” -if one is to dignify your ramblings with thjat word – doesn’t “firmy prove proves” that he’s the one who translated the article anymore that the lack of the name of the cook in any McDonald’s meal proves that it was cooked by Ronald McDonald, or than all JW articles are authored by Robert Spencer just because he’s the director of JW. In fact, all email notifications of replies to JW posts i get say they are “in response to marclouis“, regardless of whoever wrote the JW article. Does that mean marcluis wrote all the article in JW? Of course not.
Like I said, Dr. Sennels has a history of specifically stating when he translated something so if he didn’t take credit for the translation it’s far more likely that it wasn’t him who did the translation. And that’s a problem for you because your intent here is to smear Dr. Sennels.
“So what about this from Sennels, Get my English language newsletter 10News on 10news.dk, that good enough proof that Sennels translated the article and inserted inserted islamic beliefs”
Nope. That doesn’t prove he’s the one who “translated the article and inserted inserted islamic beliefs” anymore than a restaurant being named McDonald’s proves that its food is cooked by a guy named McDonald, or than all JW articles are from Robert Spencer just because he’s the director of JW. Like I said, Dr. Sennels has a history of specifically stating when he translated something so if he didn’t take credit for the translation it’s far more likely that it wasn’t him who did the translation. And that’s a problem for you because your intent here is to smear Dr. Sennels.
“Sennels states that it his translations at 10new DK”
Liar. Where is Dr. Sennels stating that “ it his translations“? You need to apologize for that blatant lie.
“#3 Sennels inserted islam belief to reinforce his lie that it was Shia/Sunni related”
Liar. Where’s the evidence to back your claim that it was Dr. Sennels who wrote “islam belief“? I already explained to you why all evidence points to him not being responsible for the translation and why it’s very likely that it’s indeed shia/sunni. You, on the other hand, have been dabbling on who’s to blame for the fire. First it was “Assyrians”, then it was the muslim brotherhood, then it was the shias. That doesn’t bode well for your dumbass.
“Look what I found, here is what the moslem media has to report
[…]
http://islam.ru/en/content/news/police-fear-arson-after-sweden-mosque-fire
So there you have it, the moslems themselves are saying the mosque was not set on fire, also there are several images to support the fact.”
“The moslems themselves“? That’s odd, their source is “The Local”, a Swedish newspaper. It says right before the article:
“Source : The Local / 26 Jul 2014”
I find it hard to believe that you missed that, so the only possible explanation left is that you purposely left it out and tried to have us believe your lie that the news came from a muslim source. So you lied, again.
“So I have no reason to apologize to Sennels, he is the one lying and making the false statements”
Actually, you owe him more than one apology now. You made more false statements regarding what he did and posted. But islam means never having to say you’re sorry because allah willed you to act in such a way, so I don’t expect you to man up and take responsibility for your actions.
“One other thing if you look at Sennels Blog, you will see he is not the cleverest of counter Jihadi, he seems to have suicidal tendencies”
Even if that were to be the case it adds nothing to the claims you have been making. On the contrary, your statement only adds to my claim that your sole goal here is to smear Dr. Sennels. After all, if Dr. Sennels is getting flack from an islamic apologist that means he’s over the target.
So let’s recap: you made personal attacks at Dr. Sennels, you blatantly lied about what he did and/or did not say, you don’t have evidence to back any of your personal attacks and you refuse to man up and take responsibility for your actions. Sounds like typical leftist/mahommedan asshatery to me. Now go back to whatever cousin marriage infested 3rd world hellhole you spawned from and spare us from your islamic-acquired microcephaly.
Semeru says
agrononce, you can criticize my bad spelling, atrocious grammar ,and using the copy/paste copy paste function.I hated school, so I hardly ever went. I had a happy childhood, doing things I wanted to do sic as swimming in the Thames at Runnymede or plane spotting at Heathrow in the summer, to traveling around London on a Red Rover and going to museums and art galleries, instead of sitting in a classroom being indoctrinated by some old, only ending up doing a nine to five. My lack of school has not stopped me from being able to travel around Europe North Africa and SE Asia. My lack of school has not stopped me from learning to read and speak the languages of several of the countries I have lived In (Sweden, Czecko, Thialand, Indonesia.). At this very moment I can look out of my window an see acres of rices with the sea in the distance, I can look out of my window on my right side I see more rise fields, and several volcanos, including Mount Bromo and Mount Semeru
This more than compensates my disability of not being able to master spelling and grammar
My disability of not being able to master spelling and grammar, has not hindered me from owning a factory and employing about 800 moslemahs, to supply two wholesale out-lets that I am in partnership with, one in Bali, the other in Central Bangkok
So you can mock me all you want. But it does not alter the fact that Sennels is a very stupid man and a liar.
I will not go into any detail as to why he is stupid, this I will take up with Marc and Spencer
Now it is only on 10news DK that there is any mention of Sunni/Shia confict, and islamic beliefs. All the other sources say different religious beliefs, and no-one mentions Sunni/Shia, even the source 10News DK links to.
So the source for Sunni/Shia confict, and islamic beliefs, is 10News DK which is Sennels English Newsletter site
On Sennels other site he writes, Get my English language newsletter 10News on 10news.dk which is a good as saying it is his translation
If he had written Get an English language newsletter 10News on 10news.dk then it is an open question as to who translated the article.
It can be deduced from Sennels political blog that 10New dk is is his site, and if he does not cite who the translator is indicates that the translation is Sennels, therefore explaining why he wrote Get my English language newsletter
I do not know if you opened the link to Sennels site where he says that 10news is his, but here is again
http://nicolaisennels.dk
Read it now, as I am going to request Marc or Spencer to remove this and the last comment, because of a Security breach. I will not elaborate, if you want further details, then you will have to Contact Spencer or Marc
It is enough about Sennels he is a not only a liar, but a very stupid man.
Angemon says
Dumb Dunce posted:
“My lack of school has not stopped me from learning to read and speak the languages of several of the countries I have lived In (Sweden, Czecko, Thialand, Indonesia.).”
And that’s why you used google translate.
“So you can mock me all you want.”
Oh, the poor litte victim gets mocked for no good reason! You don’t want to get treated like a retarded asshat? Then don’t act like a retarded asshat, retarded asshat. Using the mohammedan tactic of playing the victim may fool some people some times but you won’t fool everyone all the time.
“But it does not alter the fact that Sennels is a very stupid man and a liar.”
And there goes the “innocent victim” status for the oh, i’d say about zero people who were buying your sob story. Oh well.
“I will not go into any detail as to why he is stupid”
Because you can’t, and that’s because you’re talking out of your ass. Like i said, your goal here is to smear Dr. Sennels.
this I will take up with Marc and Spencer”
I hope so, they need a good chuckle once in a while.
“Now it is only on 10news DK that there is any mention of Sunni/Shia confict, and islamic beliefs. All the other sources say different religious beliefs, and no-one mentions Sunni/Shia, even the source 10News DK links to.
So the source for Sunni/Shia confict, and islamic beliefs, is 10News DK which is Sennels English Newsletter site”
We already went through this, asshat. Had it been non-mohammedans doing the deed the mohammedans would be rioting in the streets right about now. And non-muslims could simply throw a couple of pig heads into the construction site, that would be much more effective.
“On Sennels other site he writes, Get my English language newsletter 10News on 10news.dk which is a good as saying it is his translation”
Once again, rehashing your debunked arguments won’t make them anymore valid. That’s like saying all articles here were authored by Robert because he often says “visit my website Jihad Watch”. Like i said before, when Dr. Sennels translates something he states it’s his translation:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/06/danish-police-search-mosque-for-firearms-find-machetes-four-men-arrested
“Translated from Ekstrabladet by Nicolai Sennels, via 10news.dk”
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/05/germany-sick-turk-attacks-hospital-nurse-because-too-many-crosses-on-wall
“translated by Nicolai Sennels from Mainpost”
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/05/bosnian-refugee-in-sweden-what-i-fled-from-in-1992-has-now-arrived-here
“Via 10news.dk, translated by Nicolai Sennels from Sydsvenskan”
“If he had written Get an English language newsletter 10News on 10news.dk then it is an open question as to who translated the article.”
Once again, no. That’s like saying all articles here were authored by Robert because he often says “visit my website Jihad Watch” instead of “visit the website Jihad Watch”. Like i said before, when Dr. Sennels translates something he states it’s his translation:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/06/danish-police-search-mosque-for-firearms-find-machetes-four-men-arrested
“Translated from Ekstrabladet by Nicolai Sennels, via 10news.dk”
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/05/germany-sick-turk-attacks-hospital-nurse-because-too-many-crosses-on-wall
“translated by Nicolai Sennels from Mainpost”
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/05/bosnian-refugee-in-sweden-what-i-fled-from-in-1992-has-now-arrived-here
“Via 10news.dk, translated by Nicolai Sennels from Sydsvenskan”
“It can be deduced from Sennels political blog that 10New dk is is his site, and if he does not cite who the translator is indicates that the translation is Sennels, therefore explaining why he wrote Get my English language newsletter”
For the third time in this post along, no. Like i said before, when Dr. Sennels translates something he states it’s his translation:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/06/danish-police-search-mosque-for-firearms-find-machetes-four-men-arrested
“Translated from Ekstrabladet by Nicolai Sennels, via 10news.dk”
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/05/germany-sick-turk-attacks-hospital-nurse-because-too-many-crosses-on-wall
“translated by Nicolai Sennels from Mainpost”
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/05/bosnian-refugee-in-sweden-what-i-fled-from-in-1992-has-now-arrived-here
“Via 10news.dk, translated by Nicolai Sennels from Sydsvenskan”
So if he doesn’t say it is his translation then it can be deduced that it isn’t his translation. If he says it is his translation it’s his translation. If he doesn’t say it’s his translation then it isn’t his translation. Not a difficult concept to grasp, dumbass.
“Read it now, as I am going to request Marc or Spencer to remove this and the last comment, because of a Security breach.”
Better contact the NSA, CIA and FBI too. Just in case. This article is 5 days old, it took you that long to try to get it removed? OH, BTW, the imam who fueled the rage against the muhammed cartoons apologized for what he did:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2013/10/denmark-muslims-stone-imam-who-regrets-stirring-up-muhammad-cartoon-rage
“I will not elaborate, if you want further details, then you will have to Contact Spencer or Marc”
No, please, go into further details. I don’t mind a good laugh.
“It is enough about Sennels he is a not only a liar, but a very stupid man.”
I think you’re mistaking Dr. Sennels with your reflection in a mirror… In any case, with your background you don’t get to call anyone “liar” or “very stupid”. Hey, remember when you assured me MERS was being spread from person to person and rather than from camels to humans and then I quoted a representative from the CDC saying the opposite? Were you being a liar or just very stupid?
Semeru says
Agrononse
“The moslems themselves“? That’s odd, their source is “The Local”, a Swedish newspaper. It says right before the article:
“Source : The Local / 26 Jul 2014”
I find it hard to believe that you missed that, so the only possible explanation left is that you purposely left it out and tried to have us believe your lie that the news came from a muslim source. So you lied, again.
No, I did not miss that the source was “The Local” a Swedish “English language” newspaper. In fact it is a pretty reliable source, and Spencer has used it on many occasions over the years.
Not only have the moslems used “The Local” but also the more down to earth Gates of Vienna
http://gatesofvienna.net/2014/07/gates-of-vienna-news-feed-7272014/#179581
It is rather amazing and telling that moslems used the article from the local rather than an article saying that a mosqse was burnt
It is not like moslems to play down such an incident
So we have on one extreme, moslems reported the mosque was not damaged, but it was surrounding building, and having photos to back there claim, then on the other extreme Jihad watch/Sennel reported the mosque was burnt, and using an unrelated photo of a mosque burning
It is you that is the dummie/dunce for condoneing this type of dishonest and sensationalist reporting because it is playing right into the hands of the counter-jihad movements enemies.
Angemon says
Dumb Dunce posted:
“No, I did not miss that the source was “The Local” a Swedish “English language” newspaper. In fact it is a pretty reliable source, and Spencer has used it on many occasions over the years.”
First of all, i want to point out that in his previous post Duncemeru here claimed he was going to “request Marc or Spencer to remove this and the last comment, because of a Security breach“. Now, if he’s expecting to have this article removed why is he replying at?
Anyway, here’s what you said, dumbass:
“Look what I found, here is what the moslem media has to report
[…]
So there you have it, the moslems themselves are saying”
So you knew that the muslims were just parroting a Swedish article and you tried to have us believe that the muslims had some sort of inside info to the story. And yet, you’re calling Dr. Sennels a liar.
“It is not like moslems to play down such an incident”
If the mosque was burned by muslims then it’s in their best interest to play it down. Had it been proved, or even suspected, that the deed was done by non-muslims then we’d have riots on the streets by now.
“It is you that is the dummie(sic)/dunce for condoneing(sic) this type of dishonest and sensationalist reporting because it is playing right into the hands of the counter-jihad movements enemies.”
Enemies who try to defend islam at all costs and smear critics of islam, like Dr. Sennels? You mean, lie you? And in the end, despite all your huff and puff, despite all your personal attacks and mud slinging, you don’t have evidence to clear muslims and all logical reasoning points to muslims having done the deed. What’s it like to live in a constant haze of stupidity?
Semeru says
You are a despicable POS
First of all, i want to point out that in his previous post Duncemeru here claimed he was going to “request Marc or Spencer to remove this and the last comment, because of a Security breach“. Now, if he’s expecting to have this article removed why is he replying at?
Twat now that you have respond, I am now requesting for Marc or Spencer to remove two post for security reasons. If you want more details maybe they will fill you in, because I will not, not until I see that they have addressed the problem
Oliver says
I read somewhere (possibly JW in another post, possibly elsewhere-do not recall, was about 1 or 2 months ago) that there are SEVENTY THREE (73) different (I qill use the term) branches (don’t recall the exact term used, but this is close enough) of Islam, and that SEVENTY TWO (72) are false.
And that they should fight (and kill–YEA) each other, to obliterate the 72 false ones (I would prefer they obliterate all 73). (And take theri sueful idiot letists liberturds with them).
Back to the topic–if there are 73–I woud guess that Shia and Sunni the two main ones, and the other 71 offshoots of these two.
In that case, couldn’t the arsonists be from any of the branches?
And, as mentioned, Asyrians aren’t a religion; and since it seems likely a religious thing, most likely Muslim against Muslim.
As i mentioned in an earlier post, unfortuante. No Muslims killed in the fire.
Since it was unfinished, I guess they did not have time to stock the bombs and weaponry.