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Turkish ex-mufti on Muhammad: “So many people can’t live properly because of him”

Aug 30, 2014 10:50 am By Robert Spencer

turandursun12Turan Dursun was “a former mufti and imam and an open critic of Islam who fought for a freer ‎and more humane world despite pressures from the state, the public, and even his own ‎father, whose dream was to see him become a devoted cleric.” He lived in Turkey. He was, as was tragically predictable, assassinated by defenders of the faith.

‎”Choosing between freedom and Islamism,” by Uzay Bulut, Israel Hayom, August 26, 2014:

“The book you are holding in your hand is a book of a new era marked for a more beautiful ‎world. It is obvious that a more beautiful world cannot be achieved without a freer world. ‎And to achieve a freer world, taboos must be broken. All kinds of chains that bind freedoms ‎must be broken.”‎

This excerpt is from the preface of the first edition of the book “This is Religion,” by Turan ‎Dursun.‎

Dursun’s father was of Turkish descent, and his mother, of Kurdish descent. Born in Turkey ‎in 1934, he was a former mufti and imam and an open critic of Islam who fought for a freer ‎and more humane world despite pressures from the state, the public, and even his own ‎father, whose dream was to see him become a devoted cleric.‎

Dursun was a prestigious mufti in the cities where he worked. His ‎progressiveness and hard work were often covered by the national media, and he sometimes ‎wrote columns for national newspapers, as well. He was frequently invited to official state ‎ceremonies and was respected by the public. He regularly visited villages to observe their ‎problems, and tried to offer solutions.‎

Because Dursun received his education in madrassas (Muslim theological schools) and knew Arabic ‎well, he had a comprehensive knowledge of Islam’s original source documents — the Quran, ‎hadith, biographies and histories. And he had something of crucial importance that most ‎Muslim scholars lack: a critical mind.‎

The Islamic religious texts did not satisfy the depths of his mind. He had an incredible passion ‎for learning. Aside from his native languages, Turkish and Kurdish, he learned Arabic, ‎Circassian, and some French. He had a strong interest in Greek philosophy, as well, and read ‎Aristotle’s works when he was just 12. ‎

‎”Knowledge is accumulated in your mind to a point, and then a spark is emitted. But if [your ‎religion or ideology] is so deeply rooted in your culture and conscious, it is hard to certainly ‎face up to and distance yourself from it. I always had a nature that revolted against the ‎concept of God and my disengagement from Islam took place in an evolutionary phase. I had ‎always argued with God. Then I repented. I thought, for example, that if the Quran is the word ‎of God, then why does it permit slavery? Why does it tell some people that it is OK if they are ‎slaves? I thought that if [the Quran’s author] was really Allah, he should have abolished ‎slavery and that he should not have declared some people slaves and others free. But then I ‎immediately abjured. I had always been in a state of rebellion since my childhood,” Dursun ‎said in an interview.‎

But his main estrangement from Islam happened when he compared the Quran with other ‎religious books. ‎

‎”Then I realized how Muhammad transferred some of the writings of the Torah and Bible to ‎the Quran. I was so frustrated and angry. I could not live my childhood and youth properly ‎because of him. So many people can’t live properly because of him. So many people are ‎sufferers of his disasters. So many people know what’s right as wrong and what’s wrong as ‎right because they think the darkness that he chose exists. Human emotions and human ‎creations haven’t progressed in many ways because of him. I have found no disease, neither ‎cancer nor AIDS, and no disaster more horrid than the effects of that religion. And at that ‎moment, I decided to start a fight,” Dursun said.‎

Dursun also gave up his job as a mufti, which he carried out for 14 years, to dedicate himself ‎better to his cause.‎

‎”I gave up my job to be able to fight. I was on top of my career. I was not an ordinary mufti. ‎People knew and respected me. But I had to leave that job. Because I thought that if I was to ‎fight, I could not do that with my current job because that would not be honest. I have always ‎been consistent. I never want a difference between what I think and what I do.”‎

Dursun said that he first lost his faith in Muhammad, then he deeply thought about it, reading ‎extensively in anthropology, and in a few years time he lost his faith in God, as well. ‎

With these changes, Dursun’s father and brothers were gradually estranged from him.‎

Then he started writing. His first problem was that no media outlet or publishing house ‎wanted to publish his articles. ‎

In the preface to “This is Religion — Part 1,” he explained that period: “I tried so hard to ‎publish these articles. I rang many bells. My attempts continued for months, if not years. They ‎all turned me down. [These articles] daunted even people known as ‘progressives’ or ‎‎’intellectuals.’ Even when my most moderate articles were presented to them, some of them ‎said, ‘They can stone us to death if we publish them.’ Some of them were even scared of ‎being bombed, let alone being stoned. Some of them responded with the same rhetoric of ‎tactician politicians: ‘We respect the religion. We do not support offending religious feelings.’‎

‎”Every time I was turned down, I thought: If they can’t risk offending feelings, how can ‎struggle against darkness be possible? Can new steps in the field of civilization be taken ‎without offending feelings? How can changes that aim to reach a more beautiful, civilized, ‎and humane world take place without offending feelings? What novelty or reform has been ‎introduced without offending feelings? Have human beings not offended religious feelings as ‎they have changed themselves and the nature? I always thought about these questions. But ‎still found no entrance to our ‘liberal’ (!) printed press. ‎

‎”So before our country and the world, I would like to document this (situation) and blame the ‎‎’intellectuals’ who function as stern wardens that are not very different from the sovereigns of ‎the oppressive regimes that they accuse and as taps that prevent water required for liberation ‎from flowing,” Dursun said.‎

Finally, Dursun was able to find a magazine to publish his articles and then a publishing house ‎to print his books.‎

Among the many subjects he wrote about were violence in Islam, Shariah law, the status of ‎women in Islam, the private life of Muhammad, contradictions in the Quran, “Satanic verses” ‎and the vengefulness of Islamists. He also focused on what he called “the unscientific and ‎irrational matters in the Quran.” He wrote countless books and articles in the 1980s.‎

His son Abit Dursun said that every single article his father wrote fell like a bombshell. “My ‎father heartily dealt with taboos that no one in Turkey had ever dared discuss,” he said.‎

Thus, Turan Dursun often received death threats and was exposed to verbal attacks. ‎

‎”Even a fatwa requiring my father’s execution was proclaimed. Then the magazine for which ‎he wrote made a call to all Islamic scholars to join a debate program on TV with my father. ‎But none of them volunteered because they knew that my father was one of the most ‎outstanding scholars of Islam, not only in Turkey but throughout the world. And my father ‎was fearless,” said Abit Dursun.‎

Turan Dursun’s knowledge was great and so was his bravery. But he did not write to harm, ‎coerce, destroy or kill anyone. He had a cause, which he believed was to enlighten and liberate ‎people to create a better world, where freedom and humanity would prevail. And his only ‎weapon was the eloquence of his pen. ‎

But his opponents did not share the same human values. As if to prove Dursun right about the ‎violence of Islamic teachings, they did not confine themselves to verbal or psychological ‎attacks. ‎

At age 56, Dursun was brutally assassinated by two gunmen in front of his house in ‎Istanbul on September 4, 1990. ‎

After Dursun’s murder, a book titled “The Holy Terror of Hezbollah” was found on his bed. ‎Family members said that the book did not belong to Dursun and was left on his bed as a ‎message by the people who entered their house. ‎

After Dursun was murdered, plainclothes policemen took away many of his works, which he ‎had been in the process of preparing, including the 2,000 pages of his Encyclopedia of the ‎Quran, many of his manuscripts, articles, letters and the fifth edition of his latest book.‎

‎”The police arrived in our house 45 minutes later. The plainclothes policemen who had arrived ‎much earlier ransacked the whole house. As they left after seizing my father’s works, the ‎uniformed policemen came. … We sought help from the prosecutor’s office later, but were not ‎able to get those works back,” his son said.‎

Dursun was opposed by the police and the state, and was completely vulnerable. But he was ‎also abandoned by many of Turkey’s intellectuals. Not everyone had his courageous heart and ‎his free mind, after all.‎

Abit Dursun delivered a speech in his father’s funeral: “Turan Dursun always said ‘I am not ‎scared of darkness. I am scared of being scared. Because one who is scared either dreads or ‎becomes aggressive. Those who killed my father viciously fired bullets at his back, without ‎even daring to look him in the eye,” he said.‎

After Dursun’s assassination, his books sold tens of thousands of copies in Turkey. His ‎supporters have called him a “warrior of enlightenment” — one of the most well-deserved titles ‎in history.‎

Dursun was killed years ago, but the silence and indifference of the West — the free world — ‎in the face of Islamism remains deafening.‎

The term “Islamphobia” has been invented to muzzle the critics of Islam so that Islamists’ ‎feelings will not be offended. Even genuine supporters of this term must be well aware of the ‎fact that the slightest, mildest criticism of Islam can cause violent reactions from “peaceful” ‎Islamists.‎

That is why Alan Dershowitz was so right when he said, “The threat or fear of violence should ‎not become an excuse or justification for restricting freedom of speech.” ‎

Why do we fear a violent reaction from Muslims if we make any substantial critique of Islam? ‎Is Islam not a religion of peace, as many claim it to be?‎

‎”Islamophobia” apologists should also answer these questions: What thoughts are included ‎and guaranteed within the scope of freedom of expression? Which thoughts are free and ‎which are banned? To what extent can one criticize Islam and about what subjects must one be ‎silent? Can we get a list of do’s and don’t’s, and if so, how would it contribute to human ‎progress?‎

The suppression of criticism of Islam and Islamism aims to restrict the capacity of the human ‎mind. But we are no longer living in the seventh century. In the 21st century, one may not ‎demand silence from free thinkers.‎

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  1. Tony says

    Aug 30, 2014 at 11:36 am

    Sounds like he was a lovely and couragious man.I wonder if his book is available in English.

    • KenW says

      Sep 1, 2014 at 2:15 pm

      According to one paragraph it stated his works were translated to English. I too will be looking for them in English.
      Without fear of reprisal, islam would have disappeared long ago. Nothing about it is religious. It is a cult, a death cult.

      • Bill Garrison says

        Sep 1, 2014 at 6:04 pm

        Even on Amazon I can’t find anything of his in English. Please post if someone finds something somewhere.

      • theGodPollution says

        Sep 25, 2014 at 11:11 am

        …all religions are cults.

  2. jewdog says

    Aug 30, 2014 at 11:40 am

    Thanks, I’ll look for references to him over at Ali Sina’s faithfreedom.org , the apostate website.
    His example is a good illustration of what I think will ultimately bring Islam down: It will be the rise of popular literacy and the internet. While in the short run many people will narrowly concentrate on the literal teachings of the Islamic texts and become ISIS-like believers, eventually they will read other works and that will bring about an Enlightenment. If it happened in Europe, it can happen elsewhere. Maybe they will even read Robert’s books.

  3. Iq says

    Aug 30, 2014 at 12:03 pm

    Turan represented the few among the tens of millions of Islam who had the incredible insight and courage to unshackle himself from the chains of Muhammadan Islam.

    As usual with ‘peaceful’ Muslims, he was assassinated in exactly the same cowardly manner that Muhammad used 1400 years ago against all those criticized him be they men or women, young or old, free or slave.

    Without a doubt, what barbarity ISIS is committing in the Middle East is a ‘God send’ WAKE up to our otherwise COMATOSE leaders in the USA & EU!

    ISIS is PERFECT Islam. So are al Qaida, al Shabab, al Nusra, Boko Haram, Hamas, Hezbollah & all thousands of Muslim terror groups. They are literally following to the letter their demonic god Allah’s dastardly commandments how to deal with Infidels/ Kuffar currently 80% of none Muslim humanity

    Within this year, horrendous acts of terror will be made by ‘peaceful’ Muslims living in our societies, the very Muslims that have been protected by our police and politicians.

    Now is pay back time and tragically our innocent civilians will pay the price for our leaders’ criminal negligence

    IQ al Rassooli
    Kafir & Proud!

    • Gail Griffin says

      Aug 30, 2014 at 4:25 pm

      Dear Mr. Rassooli; I totally agree that the rampages and atrocities commited by IS is a God send. Look at Britains Prime Minister. His eyes are now open and I can’t wait for the day they arrest Chaudrey. This week may be the turning point in history against islamists and the lies of islam. Good versus evil, etc. Time for good.

      • gerard says

        Aug 30, 2014 at 8:00 pm

        ” Look at Britains Prime Minister. His eyes are now open..”
        Are you sure about that? Don’t they always say: These terrorist groups don’t represent Islam?

        • MacUalraig says

          Aug 30, 2014 at 11:11 pm

          Indeed, the inspiring David Wood just posted this:

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uxiN0sFJlQ

          It’s worth watching to the end.

      • Tim says

        Aug 31, 2014 at 11:37 am

        Unfortunately David Cameron is blind as a bat and could do with a walking stick.

      • voegelinian says

        Aug 31, 2014 at 2:31 pm

        The UK PM’s eyes are not open. He still only sees a Tiny Minority of Extremists who have nothing to do with Islam.

        • jimmi says

          Aug 31, 2014 at 3:47 pm

          it is irrelevant… there are many Muslims in UK and he is a political animal.

  4. Wellington says

    Aug 30, 2014 at 12:52 pm

    Did not know about him. Glad that I do now. What I found particularly interesting is this man’s realization that Mohammed was not a good man. Quite the contrary in fact. Well, if one destroys Mohammed, who certainly deserves to be destroyed, one goes a long way towards destroying all of Islam.

  5. EYESOPEN says

    Aug 30, 2014 at 1:11 pm

    One thing. Look at this man’s eyes. They look HUMAN. Like those of a normal human being who could laugh, love, feel sorrow or feel joy. Not dead, cold eyes.

    He escaped izlam. And I would like to think that Almighty God not only knows each of our hearts; but is good enough and merciful enough to give us the choice of Jesus even at the moment of our death. If that is so, I think I know where Turan Dursun will be spending eternity – unlike Mad Mo and his demented followers.

    • Bettina says

      Aug 31, 2014 at 9:03 pm

      Yes, the amazing attributes of his soul, Humor, Kindness and Intelligence, light up this gentleman’s eyes.
      Unfortunately for all of us, islamic sociopaths are good at imitating human facial expression, and remain invisible until their deliberately drop the mask. I, myself, have been fooled into thinking the sociopaths I’ve met were normal. Gives you the willies, doesn’t it?

  6. abad says

    Aug 30, 2014 at 1:53 pm

    While working on my degree on Near Eastern studies at UA my history professor – a convert to Islam – actually admitted to the class one day that outside the Quran, there is very scant proof that Mohammad ever existed.

    Whenever you have a group of people who feel the incessant need to murder non-believers in order to validate your own beliefs, there is a very good chance your religion is fake.

    The reality is this: The Bible is complete unto itself. There was and is no need for a “successor” like the Quran or any other religious book for that matter.

    Dursun had the courage to speak the truth about Islam. Thank you Sir.

    • deja vu says

      Aug 30, 2014 at 9:45 pm

      Well said, abad.

      The questions I always ask are these:

      Do you believe Allah is all powerful? (answer yes). Do you also believe that he is the judge of mankind (again, yes). Then why is it that Allah requires Muslims to be both judge, jury and executioner? No answer. End of conversation.

      If ever there was a counterfeit it is this noxious ideology whose supposed deity has feet of clay.

      • Jay Boo says

        Aug 30, 2014 at 9:56 pm

        Allah’s little helpers giving helpless Allah a helping hand.

      • Jon MC says

        Aug 31, 2014 at 7:41 am

        Actually there is an answer, but not one a Muslim would care to give a non-Muslim.
        According to the Koran and ahadith Muslims are executing Allah’s judgement on the Kafir when they (Muslims) slaughter them (kafirs etc.).
        The Koran also teaches that kafirs are “friends unto Satan” – thus killing kafirs is a holy thing – actually the MOST holy thing – a Mussalman can do.

        Rather like the way Xtians say that they are “Christ’s hands in the world” when you think about it – but in a diametrically opposite way.

  7. Henry says

    Aug 30, 2014 at 4:09 pm

    Thank you for this article, I’m very pleased to know some of this brave man’s story! All Muslims should get to know it and understand it, it is an inspiration!

  8. Edward says

    Aug 30, 2014 at 6:55 pm

    At times I have compassion for the Muslim majority… who out of fear from the few…. that oversee the compliance of the Quran……live their lives in a state of duress! May I suggest not to fear no more……as long as the names of Jesus’ and His blessed virgin mother, Mary is recognized in the Quran…..there is a glimmer of hope for a change for the good!

    Mustafa bey Dursun felt the weight of his constraints, that’s the cost of being under duress.

    Abit Dursun (Dursun’s son) delivered a speech in his father’s funeral: “Turan Dursun always said ‘I am not ‎scared of darkness. I am scared of being scared. Because one who is scared either dreads or ‎becomes aggressive. Those who killed my father viciously fired bullets at his back, without ‎even daring to look him in the eye,” he said.

    Personally, allow me to say that’s WHY Pope Francis’ consideration and the church’s hierarchy ecumenical insistence ……”Islam is a religion of peace!”

    Our Lord’s and Mary, His mother’s name on the Quran publication can be considered having the imprimatur’s sanctioning. However, the Quran does not rate the “nihil obstat” ranking, which gives “permission to publish the book, granted by an official censor who, upon examining it, has certified that it contains nothing contrary to faith or morals.” Part of Quran’s present content contains immoral passages contrary to the Roman Catholic Church faith.

    ”Then I realized how Muhammad transferred some of the writings of the Torah and Bible to ‎the Quran.” – Turan Dursun

    Here’s a probable incentive to reform both the Catholic Church and Islam since Islam shares the somewhat basic platform, but question is asked where will the sharia laws fit in? A compromise?

    I say this because I see this as a possibility, considering that Pope Francis’ mission statement is reflected by his coat of arms motto: MISERANDO ATQUE ELIGENDO (Latin: “by having mercy and by choosing”)

    Islam has one of two choices to become: a LEGITIMATE RELIGION by deleting all of the immoral passages (of its killing mandate the of non-beleivers) in the Quran. Thus becoming part of the human race, as our omnipotent God that HAS created us to be in the first place.
    or
    Islam can become an ILLEGITIMATE RELIGION if it all mention of Jesus and Mary from the Quran. Thus becoming irrelevant to the cause of the human race, as our omnipotent God that HAS created us to be in the first place.

    I’m looking forward to read more about Turan Dursun’s biography/works through the auspices of JW’S founder: Mr. Robert Spencer. Good work Robert!

    • voegelinian says

      Aug 31, 2014 at 2:33 pm

      Let’s not get carried away with sympathy for the supposed Muslim victims who supposedly abound.

    • Jay Boo says

      Aug 31, 2014 at 3:12 pm

      Edward said
      “as long as the names of Jesus’ and His blessed virgin mother, Mary is recognized in the Quran…..there is a glimmer of hope for a change for the good! ”
      and Edward added some RC / Islam equivocation … and more … and more
      —————–

      Oh please!
      It is painful to read such dressed up interfaith coexist fantasies.
      Yes, not all Muslims are evil people (now let us stop right there – end of story)
      Self-serving Islam is not now nor has it ever been a “legitimate religion” and it will never be a legitimate’ religion and still be Islam.
      Muslims have no real respect for Jesus; that is a myth.

      • Edward says

        Sep 1, 2014 at 11:52 pm

        Muslims have no real respect for Jesus; that is a myth.

        You write that……Muslims having no respect for Jesus is only a myth, right!

        Tell this fact to the authors of this wikipedia article about ‘Jesus in Islam’.

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_in_Islam

  9. GP says

    Aug 30, 2014 at 7:00 pm

    Culture of death, murder, rape, terror, torture, hatred, intolerance, and Islamic supremacy.

    All taught at Jihad University throughout America and the West, with chapters right in their local mosque.

  10. Edward says

    Aug 30, 2014 at 7:06 pm

    This paragraph has a typo error:

    Islam can become an ILLEGITIMATE RELIGION if it all mention of Jesus and Mary from the Quran. Thus becoming irrelevant to the cause of the human race, as our omnipotent God that HAS created us to be in the first place.

    It should read:

    Islam can become an ILLEGITIMATE RELIGION if it redacts all mention of Jesus and Mary from the Quran. Thus becoming irrelevant to the cause of the human race, as our omnipotent God that HAS created us to be in the first place.

    My wrong, sorry!

    • Jay Boo says

      Aug 31, 2014 at 3:17 pm

      Correction
      Islam is already illegitimate
      Islam’s false prophet is a worthless pile of disgrace posing as a human being.

  11. Max Publius says

    Aug 30, 2014 at 7:58 pm

    An ex-imam, murdered in 1990. Shows that thoughtful insiders knew well before 9/11 that Islam is on the wrong side of history. Good to know even imams can think and change.

    • deja vu says

      Aug 30, 2014 at 9:55 pm

      Islam has always been on the wrong side of history. Long before political correctness stifled debate, that most erudite of men, Sir Winston Churchill, summed it up after his experiences in the Sudan and the Crimea.

      “How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries!
      Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia
      in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many
      countries, improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement, the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.

      Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyzes the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step, and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it (Islam) has vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome.”

      We can only imagine what Sir Winston would say today.

      • JIMJFOX says

        Aug 31, 2014 at 2:10 am

        He would be arrested and imprisoned for “hate speech”, that’s what!

        Just as Paul Weston was, merely for quoting Churchill. Britain is now a fascist state, waiting for take-over and full sharia…

    • voegelinian says

      Aug 31, 2014 at 2:34 pm

      Yeah, one in a billion.

  12. Jay Boo says

    Aug 30, 2014 at 9:38 pm

    A former mufti and imam must have known that Muslims use their impressive displays of Islamic decorum merely as the facade Islam’s disgrace.

    Muslims — love to intimidate behind their prayer dance ceremonies.
    Deceit always creeps into these prayer mat feasts.
    Muslims just can’t stand to have anything get in the way of their vanity displays.
    When their Islamic fix wears off they always come back into Islam’s vast emptiness.
    At this point, Muslims begin to grasp and become very dangerous.

    Always

  13. tom says

    Aug 30, 2014 at 9:54 pm

    What has islam brought to the world but misery. Islam is evil, every so called faith has caused trouble but islam is the absolute worst. Just let people believe in what they want, I believe in Donald Duck, so what ? Within a year these fanatic lunatics will lay their hands on biological and or nuclear weapons and who thinks they will hesitate to use these, needs his head examined or be beheaded by isis.

    I have a lot of respect for the knowledge of mr. Robert Spencer but it is not enough to mobilize. Unfortunately within a short period terrible things will also happen, and not only in the Middle East, but in Europe and the US. Sadly people only wake up in a bloodbath, so be it

    • Jay Boo says

      Aug 30, 2014 at 11:13 pm

      tom
      You obviously voted for Obama twice

      EQIUVOCATION every so called faith has caused trouble
      VICTIM OF ISLAM AT FAULT MEME and who thinks they will hesitate to use biological and or nuclear weapons, needs his head examined or be beheaded by isis.
      COMPLIMMENT USED TO LEAD INTO ‘BUT’
      I have a lot of respect for the knowledge of mr. Robert Spencer but
      PASSIVE VOICE MODIFIES BLAME
      Unfortunately within a short period terrible things will also happen
      VICTIM OF ISLAM AT FAULT MEME REPEATED YET AGAIN
      Sadly people (non-Muslims) only wake up in a bloodbath, so be it

      WE ARE HELPLESS MEME
      the whole comment

    • Jay Boo says

      Aug 30, 2014 at 11:18 pm

      It is okay to hate Islam and not apologize or equivocate or find fault with non Muslims

  14. Edward says

    Aug 30, 2014 at 10:58 pm

    Much more non main stream info about Mohummad, the so called prophet on this Turkish website dedicated to Mustafa bey Turan Dursun who, btw is considered an atheists, by the members of this same Turkish atheists, agnostics and pantheists website @ http://www.turandursun.net/

  15. sidney penny says

    Aug 31, 2014 at 12:36 am

    Similar to these two people although not Muslims

    “had something of crucial importance that most ‎Muslim scholars lack: a critical mind‎”
    “had an incredible passion ‎for learning”
    “had a comprehensive knowledge of Islam’s original source documents”

    ,were writing in a hostile environment similar to Turan Dursun

    http://voiceofdharma.org/books/tcqp/

    The Calcutta Quran Petition by Sita Ram Goel

    http://voiceofdharma.org/books/tcqp/pref1.htm

    The real issue raised by the Petition was not what Muslims believe about the Quran but what behaviour patterns the Quran inculcates in its votaries vis-à-vis the unbelievers.

    http://voiceofdharma.org/books/uith/

    Understanding Islam through Hadis
    Religious Faith or Fanaticism?

    Ram Swarup

  16. kaz says

    Aug 31, 2014 at 1:57 am

    finally. the search for a peaceful muslim is a success! oh. they murdered him. sigh. the search goes on. surely somewhere, there is a peaceful muslim.

  17. Tim says

    Aug 31, 2014 at 2:32 am

    This poor man what they have done to him! But his efforts will not go in vein. His voice will not die out.
    Islam has always had birth of intellectuals and saints who have tried to enlighten them from within to the fact they they are guided by deception and evil, created for medieval conquest. But the Muslims always kill them off.

  18. Mirren10 says

    Aug 31, 2014 at 7:13 am

    ”Then I realized how Muhammad transferred some of the writings of the Torah and Bible to ‎the Quran. I was so frustrated and angry. I could not live my childhood and youth properly ‎because of him. So many people can’t live properly because of him. So many people are ‎sufferers of his disasters. So many people know what’s right as wrong and what’s wrong as ‎right because they think the darkness that he chose exists. Human emotions and human ‎creations haven’t progressed in many ways because of him. I have found no disease, neither ‎cancer nor AIDS, and no disaster more horrid than the effects of that religion. And at that ‎moment, I decided to start a fight,”

    A brave and intelligent man.

    Why don’t more mohammedans realise the character of the vile mohammed, inventor of a ‘religion’ that sacralises the most depraved and evil parts of humanity ?

    I wish I could answer that question …

  19. John Rgood says

    Aug 31, 2014 at 8:41 am

    Powerful and heartbreaking. Many followers of Mr. Spencer’s Jihad Watch will immediately see, this is where we are headed. We must listen and stop tradedy like this, from becoming…..us.

  20. paddy says

    Aug 31, 2014 at 12:15 pm

    Great article…Turan Dursun, sir…you were indeed a man after my own heart

    • Jay Boo says

      Aug 31, 2014 at 12:20 pm

      Turan Dursun will no doubt take great comfort in being awarded your worthy approval.

      • paddy says

        Aug 31, 2014 at 12:57 pm

        How so JB? He’s dead…assassinated. Didn’t you read the article? Oh…oh, I see..you are just being cynical, bitter, twisted and sarcastic….silly me.

        • Mirren10 says

          Aug 31, 2014 at 3:11 pm

          Pay no attention, paddy. *Your* comments are worth reading.

        • Jay Boo says

          Aug 31, 2014 at 3:23 pm

          Yeah right, Mirren10
          including paddy’s flimsy attempt to deflect my criticism at an unbridled attempt at self-promotion.

      • Jay Boo says

        Aug 31, 2014 at 2:00 pm

        Yes, I am quite sure you realized that I know he is dead and that allowed for a bit of extra sarcasm despite your flimsy attempt to deflect my criticism at your unbridled attempt at self-promotion.

        • Bettina says

          Aug 31, 2014 at 9:18 pm

          In truth, I believe that all Paddy is culpable of is making an awkward gaffe, his comment, “…after my own heart” sounding flippant rather than admiring.
          We’ve all used those words routinely, in more appropriate circumstances.
          The main thing is that Paddy is one of us, right? Some people just type their habitual expressions before thinking. I’m sure Paddy’s gaffe was noticed for a nano-second by everyone.

      • Bettina says

        Aug 31, 2014 at 9:09 pm

        Indeed, JayBoo! You’re a funny guy (guyesse?)! Your reaction to Paddy did wonders for me, friend!

  21. PeterB says

    Aug 31, 2014 at 10:43 pm

    This assassination is how Islam has ALWAYS operated and it always will. It is the basis of any and all totalitarian states ruled by one man or one ideology that has the strict belief that it is supremely good for humanity or supremely deserving of being dictator. So in Islam (the ulama and imams) any voice that implies separation of church and state, rule of law for all equally (clergy, men and women) is met with whatever means of silence they need to use. I am sure they warn people privately to shut up or else. Anyone in Islam knows what this means. Then if he continues he is beaten and imprisoned. If it continues even still if they don’t kill him after the 3rd strike, then he will spend his life in jail to be a living example of “God’s” punishment.

    BTW, they lie about what the pillars of Islam really are. The 5 pillars of Islam are NOT really Shahadah, prayer, charity, fasting and pilgrimage.

    No. The real pillars are:

    1. Patriarchal dominance.
    The satisfaction of male Id/ego, and the destruction of super-ego.

    2. Violence.
    Allah’s religion failed in Mecca. So they took up the sword. (and never looked back)

    3. Deception/Taqiyya.
    Appear to be peaceful and spiritual, and never admit the truth.

    4. Abrogation (Naskh).
    Mo’s perfect infallibility demands constant re-writing and re-defining truth.

    5. Breeding.
    Get 4 wives, preferably as young as possible. Make babies as soon as possible without killing her. Repeat until she dies (then get another one), is sterile or to old to interest you anymore (divorce and get another). Make boys to expand the muslim megalomaniac mens club. Make girls for big dowry payoffs.

  22. Bettina says

    Sep 1, 2014 at 5:09 am

    Terrific post, Peter! I enjoy how you put your fine intellect at the service of our cause. Your 5 pillars are so spot-on!
    And your frank contempt for muslim misogyny is refreshing, coming from a man. (No offense toward men is intended.)
    Hope to read you again soon 🙂

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