“Isil’s so-called caliphate has no moral legitimacy; it is a regime of torture, arbitrary punishment and murder that goes against the most basic beliefs of Islam.” Which ones? Hammond didn’t say. Everyone knows already, don’t they? Everyone knows that what the Islamic State is doing has nothing whatsoever to do with the true, peaceful teachings of Islam. No one can quite manage to explain how, but what do we care about details!
“Hammond: James Foley murder an ‘utter betrayal’ of Britain,” Channel 4, August 24, 2014:
Foreign Secretary Philip Hammond has called the murder of US journalist James Foley an “utter betrayal of our country” as the government hunts down the suspected Briton who carried out his beheading.
Mr Hammond pledged more military support to Kurdish fighters opposing Islamic State (IS) militants in Iraq, and said the battle against “the enduring threat from Syria and Iraq” was likely to last a generation.
But he reiterated that Britain would not be putting “boots on the ground” for a military operation as the government tries to tackle the IS threat, whose members “are turning a swathe of Iraq and Syria into a terrorist state as a base for launching attacks on the West”.
“Unless they are stopped, sooner or later they will seek to strike us on British soil,” he added.
It is estimated that more than 500 British jihadists have travelled to Syria or Iraq in the past few years, Mr Hammond said….
“The brutal murder of the American journalist James Foley by Isil [IS] is a reminder to us all that Islamic extremism in Iraq and Syria is not only causing huge suffering in those countries but is also a barbaric ideology threatening us at home,” Mr Hammond wrote in the Sunday Times.
“Isil’s so-called caliphate has no moral legitimacy; it is a regime of torture, arbitrary punishment and murder that goes against the most basic beliefs of Islam.”…
Champ says
Perfect picture of him with his *eyes closed* …and his mind is also closed to the ugly truth about islam & company, as well.
Champ says
hmm, has he been chewin’ the fat with obama?
Anne says
There is nothing that ISIS is doing that is inconsistent with the Quran!
That world ‘leaders’ like Cameron and Obama don’t know this is tantamount to treason.
Frank says
They know this. How is it possible to not know? Only, they are part of it! Aiding and abetting.
rev g says
“Everyone knows that what the Islamic State is doing has nothing whatsoever to do with the true, peaceful teachings of islam”….but everything to do with the more appropriate, later, violent verses of islam.
IS is acting so very Muhammad-like that it seems it is trying to follow in his very footsteps. I guess that isn’t very Islamic?
Christopher S.M says
If what ISIS is doing is against the basic tenets of Islam, it means the founder of islam later got revelations that were unislamic and he then became unislamic himself.
Terry says
Geez – doesn’t the world hate logic.
rev g says
Remember that in the earliest period of islam, accommodation was called for. CAIR and other apologists love to trot out quranic wisdom from the early period, fully aware that those peaceful writings are rendered moot by the later violent passages.
No, Muhammad did not become “un-Islamic”, he merely iterated Allah’s intent to no longer be peaceful, and advocate violence. It seems so many forget those later revelations when discussing islam as a peaceful religion. It may have started with some peaceful intent, but allah changed his mind….LOL.
tpellow says
Hammond sounds like a phoney imam as his Tory Party competes with Labour in the forlorn attempt to deny the Islamic nature of Islamic State, in the hope of appeasing U.K Muslim voters.
Max Modine says
G’Day Roger. You seem new here. Welcome! I like your 9/11 reference. A rallying call. If its alright with you mate I’m going to start using it? Max.
Remember 9/11
Ratthon says
If it WERE NOT against the so called ‘most basic beliefs of islam’ – it wouldnt be righter anyways.
Who is entitled to give a final answer what the ‘most basic beliefs of islam’ are?
Exactly nobody. But all think they have to speak a word about what is true, right, wrong and false. This is the questions the wars are about, stupid!
John Stefan Obeda says
It is not difficult to learn what the basic beliefs of Islam are. All a person has to do is to read the Koran and the Hadith. Mr. Bill Warner says, “One of the easiest ways to study Islam is to learn about Mohammed through his Traditions, called the Hadith. Islam is defined by the words of Allah in the Koran, and the words and actions of Mohammed, the Sunna.” (copied from his book “The Hadith” age 1.
As we learn what Christianity teaches from her source of doctrine, the Bible, so we go to the Trilogy of Islam to learn what Islam teaches: i.e. the Koran, the Sira and the Hadith.
It is not difficult to learn the teachings and the ways of Islam, but it is rather difficult for the people of the West including especially her leaders in the State and in some Churches to believe it. ISIS is helping us to learn and to believe the devil’s doctrine and ways.
Beagle says
“Isil’s so-called caliphate has no moral legitimacy; it is a regime of torture, arbitrary punishment and murder that goes against the most basic beliefs of Islam.”…
Once again, I would like to note that Islam has western politicians so befuddled and compromised that their ultimate appeal to authority is already what is or is not a good Muslim. Children growing up today must necessarily think the main sources of moral guidance are the “basic beliefs of Islam.”
Not that our horrendous leaders have Islam’s tenents correct of course, but the process of Islamization in their cases is already half completed. They’ve decided to buy it. Now it’s a question of haggling over the price. In essence they conduct daw’ah (proselytization for) Islam, using the most deceitful and yet compelling sales pitch possible. Not a negative word about Islam ever escapes their lips.
The good cop / bad cop dual nature of Islam allows our Quislings to listen to their many tongue and pen jihad advisers and ‘experts’ in order to claim the sword jihadis who read and preach the most Islam, from the core texts of Islam, are bad Muslims.
It’s nauseating, depressing, and completely illogical, but impressive to behold.
Beagle says
Tenet, tenet, tenet, tenet, tenet, tenet, tenet, tenet, tenet, tenet.
By George, I think I finally have it.
Champ says
😉
Rinzai says
Another victim off the ‘all religions are the same” meme… Vomit inducing
pongidae rex says
The leadership and intellectuals of the West are consumed with magical thinking about Islam. Magical thinking is a form of insanity. If the atrocities of the Islamic State do not wake them up to what we are confronting, they have lost the ability to reason.
Multi-culturalism has its own form of brain-washing. We are witnessing it. These people must be replaced. They are no better than robots.
voegelinian says
Many ordinary people throughout the West — I’d say still the majority — also swallow, and regurgitate, the TMOE meme.
Wellington says
I would be interested, voegelinian, in what polling by those who engage in it accurately, for instance Pew, would show respecting what percentage of a Western population, say American, Canadian, Australian, French, Dutch, Danish or British, at present still think Islam is a religion of peace and tolerance, blah, blah, blah…. I’m sure it would be less than ten years ago, even five years ago, but how much less I’m not certain.
I do know from my own postings at Yahoo and what others post there that anti-Islam sentiment is definitely on the rise, even compared to a few years ago, just judging by the many comments which are realistic about Islam versus those parroting your standard ignorance or deceit about Mo’s creed. I have little doubt things are moving in the right direction and that more and more of those in the West have had their fill of Islam, but what the pace is I’m not certain. I don’t think it glacial, but whether it is fast enough for sundry solid reasons that I don’t know.
But remember what I’ve said before and that is that we’re in a new Hundred Years War. Ordinary folks in free nations will take their time coming to the realization that a major religion can be putrid to its core. This is evidence, of course, of a tolerance that is not justifed where Islam is concerned, though speaking long term, I don’t see how Islam will prevail over truth and justice and thus it is in its last gasp, but it’s going to be a horrible last gasp for all the wrold and sadly a very long one.
voegelinian says
I agree it is changing for the better. I just think the change continues to be glacial, continues to reflect a minority (< 50%), and continues to be complicatedly hobbled by unnecessary and irrational concerns about tarring all Muslims with one brush. The main question crystallizing in the haze of our near future is: will this Great Awakening underway in the West (to reverse what Hugh Fitzgerald called the "Great Inhibition") be realized before, or after, a few million of us get mass-murdered and horribly injured by Muslims in various places of the West?
TH says
Eventually the ordinary common man and woman will wake up and send these politicians packing. The sooner this happens the better.
Frank says
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”
– Edmund BURKE
Anne says
The vomit spewing from these dhimwit pieholes is increasingly contrived and so well rehearsed…and so insulting to anyone with a modicum of brain function. Methinks they doth protest too much mostly because they have nothing intelligent to say.
SpiritOf1683 says
When this is the calibre of politician we produce, no wonder the West is in big trouble.
CogitoErgoSum says
Dear Mr. Secretary Hammond, if this Islamic State is a betrayal to Islam, if it goes against the teachings of Islam, why aren’t the armies of the states “properly” ruled under Islam sending their armies to quash this Islamic State that’s such an embarrassment to Islam? Why did the moderate Muslims in Iraq turn on their Christian and Yazidi neighbors? Why did members of the Iraqi army throw down their weapons and either run away or join the ISIL jihadis? Why is it that the “true and proper” Muslims worldwide are not mustering an army to fight this enemy? The fact that they are doing nothing to fight this Islamic State speaks volumes to me ……. and should to you also, Mr. Secretary Hammond.
BC says
As I have said before the truth of the matter is that our ‘leaders’ in both EU and US are soiling their underwear because they are caught in their own trap. They have to keep up this pretence that there are two Islams. If they acknowledged the truth
and evidence which is before their eyes they would appear anti Islam. There are elections looming and they desperately need the Muslims votes. This is how Islam will achieve victory over the West, by using western democracy to its own advantage
SpiritOf1683 says
The worst thing is that millions of people in the West will suffer over the course of this century and into the next because of Western politicians, journalists and academics who refuse to tell the truth about Islam, either through fear or self-imposed ignorance. The evidence is stacking up every day in every way. We’ve had 1,400 years of this. How much more do we need?
Julius O'Malley says
It is quite obvious to anyone who cares to pay attention that the ISIS regime and the beheading of James Foley is utterly repugnant to tenets of Islam as Philip Hammond asserts from the trenchant and unequivocal response of Western Muslim communities.
Witness the massive demonstrations of opposition to the ISIS regime from Muslim communities throughout the cities in the West with large Muslim populations and the veritable deluge of imams and Muslim community leaders on TV, radio and press interviews to vehemently denounce ISIS as unIslamic. Tariq Ramadan and Anjem Choudary have been especially vocal in this regard.
Pardon me, I was momentarily confused: Western Muslims were demonstrating etc about Israel defending itself. I must have been in a coma whilst they were denouncing ISIS as unIslamic.
Max Publius says
The real evil these know-nothing bureaucrats do comes from actually dampening overt Muslim terrorism to merely background noise, which they then can ignore, but in the end it will be the slow Islamization over the next 30 years that will more effective in the destruction of free, liberal countries than IS could ever hope for.
DON’T LISTEN TO PATRONIZING POLITICIANS WHO ARE FRIENDLY WITH SHARIA STATES. THEY ARE THE QUISLINGS OF OUR TIME.
Rob says
islam and muslims play the good cop bad cop strategy to perfection. the ‘moderate’, stealth jihadists, along with clueless muslims, are the good cops, and the violent jihadists are the bad cops. they need one another to succeed. without one or the other, they would fail.
please excuse my no caps but i’m recovering from shoulder surgery that i had today and only have one arm available.
Max Publius says
Rob, you’re spot on in your assessments, and I hope your recover quickly. We need more of ya, brother!
Mrs Sherringham says
There are now good Muslim cops like secualr and barely practicing Muslims, bad Muslim cops such as Al-Qaeda, Hamas, Hezbollah, the Muslim Brotherhood, Boko Haram etc, and really bad Muslim cops: ISIS.
Compared to ISIS, Al-Qaeda et al now look almost tame to western politicians.
Hindu American says
Clueless twit!
Max Publius says
Philip Hammond and his ilk are the true betrayers of Great Britain. Every country has enemies, but few invite them in by the thousands and give them welfare and a stage to attack the native population.
jewdog says
I see, and I suppose the real followers of the Prophet are members of the United Methodist State.
dumbledoresarmy says
Philip Hammond is utterly clueless.
*Peter* Hammond, however – author of the book “Slavery, Terrorism and Islam”, is not.
http://www.amazon.com/Slavery-Terrorism-Islam-Revised-Expanded/dp/0980263913
Perhaps one or two of our UK jihadwatchers might like to send Hammond, Philip, a copy of the book by Hammond, Peter. With a brief and polite covering note.
Or maybe just the Barnabas Fund booklets – I suggest “What is Sharia?” and “Islam and Slavery” and “Islam and Truth”.
zimriel says
One can argue that Baghdadi’s caliphate goes against Sunnism. It certainly goes against the other sects, like Iran’s and Oman’s.
Against Islam itself, though? If Baghdadi is truly the Khalifatu ‘llah, they he doesn’t have to worry about the Sunna. A true “vicegerent of God” is not defined by his adherence to Sunna; he himself defines the Sunna.
Rob says
here’s an interesting thing i noticed: if you take mr. hammond’s name and play with it a bit and add two letterts- an ‘a’ and another m), it spells mohammad. very appropriate.
it really should spell dhimmi!!
pat says
These delusional fools keep trying to tell Muslims about Islam.
Boston Tea Party says
I think we really have the solution to the problem of Islam and its violent manifestations: we just need to have thousands of non-Muslim western liberals parachute into Muslim countries, where they can fully explain the true, peaceful, tolerant nature of Islam to the Muslims that reside there. Oh sure, those Muslims may be fully versed in Islamic theology and exegesis, and the western liberals may have no knowledge of Islam—-but the western liberals FEEL that they’re RIGHT and that they’re GOOD and that they’re TOLERANT—surely that’s the most important thing in the world?
sidney penny says
I looked at the heading and thought which ones?
Ok I thought again, time to educate yourself from UK’s Foreign Secretary Philip Hammond.He must have read up on the most basic beliefs of Islam.
Then I read your intro and read that you thought the same thing! which ones?
However I was bitterly disappointed when he did not say anything!
You were too.
William says
At least he didn’t say it has nothing to do with Islam. That’s an improvement. For he says that the IS Caliphate is acting against the most basic beliefs of Islam. He is acknowledging that they are practitioners of Islam; just that they are not following their most basic beliefs – he probably couldn’t even state the most basic beliefs of Christianity, yet apparently he is quite familiar with those of Islam. Note that he did not say they were acting against the most basic beliefs of Christianity, or Buddhism, or Hinduism, or Judaism, or Zoroastrianism, or Confucianism, or any other belief system under the Sun – excepting Islam of course.
PJG says
The most loathsome aspect to his little speech was his casual dismissal of the Christians who are being caused “huge suffering” – what an understatement – while he only worries about the security of Britain. The free da’wa for his Muslim mates is icing on a cake of stinking cowardice and betrayal.
Lemon says
Look at all the apologists coming out at once, and one of the first things they tell us is that these atrocious, murderous actions completely commanded in the Koran have “nothing to do with Islam.”
What is with this fanatic defense of a murderous ideology? What do they gain from it? More importantly, are these people speaking out of sheer ignorance, or are they fully lying through their teeth?
I’m sick and tired of this nonsense. How can people rush to the defense of an ideology based upon a book that has commanded the murder of innocents for over a millennium, among other atrocities? Where else are all these terrorist groups (99% of which happen to be Muslim, “coincidentally”) getting these sorts of ideas, and have gotten these sorts of ideas throughout the centuries? The Koran. This lunacy has been going on ever since before “America” or “the West”‘s colonialism or policies came about.
How about you apologists crack the Koran open and read it for once instead of defending it.
Dave J says
Sounds like Britain is in a bad way, unable to name the enemy that has declared war on it and stuck paying benefits to millions of infiltrating Muslims.
Mrs Sherringham says
I live in Londonistan, where Operation Head in the Sand is in full swing. Britain is steeped in delusion and denial. Our politicians aren’t just asleep at the wheel. They’re in a coma.
Robert Ashley says
Posted at Daily Mail comments:
This has to be the final nail in the coffin for political correctness, a fad born in early-20th century communist Russia. And for any article about this horrific situation to lazily parrot the report’s description of the criminals involved as ‘Asians’ is tantamount to complicity. Let’s get this straight: the perpetrators are not Vietnamese, Chinese, Indian or Burmese. Nor are they Hindu, Christian, Buddhist or Atheist. According to statistics from Sweden, where Oslo is fast overtaking South Africa as the rape capital of the world, muslim males are FOURTEEN TIMES more likely to rape than non-muslim males. The maltreatment and abuse of women is all part and parcel of mo’s life and teachings (as revealed to him by his imaginary friend Gabe), and part of contemporary islamic behaviour (I was going to say culture, but ‘islamic culture’ is clearly an oxymoron).
NB The dhimmi corruption goes right to the top. BNP leader Nick Griffin was prosecuted TWICE (first jury got the verdict wrong so CPS had another go) and acquitted of inciting racial hatred, so the then Labour PM Gordon ‘the moron’ Brown said the law should be changed…
fair_dinkum says
this chappy didnt mention which parts of islam the ISIL are getting wrong.
and id say he hasnt the vaguest idea re any of it
what a clown.. how embarrassing
London Jim says
Phillip Hammond should be put in the stocks. Maybe that would drum some sense into his brain.
Steffen Larsen says
…oh, my mistake.
It was my impression that the IS are living according to “the most basic beliefs of Islam”.
It shall never happen again.
Godfrey Kemal says
Perfect example of why the UK is soon to be “Londonistan” if present policies continue.
How long into the future until there is the need to rescue Christian refugees from the UK?
Yes, there are moderate Muslims but everyday that percentage shrinks and Radical Islam grows like a malignant evil tumor. This kind of “Ostrich defense” will keep it going.
Vic says
Just another dhimmi patsy who wants their vote next year
Mrs Sherringham says
UK Foreign Secretary Useful Idiot pretends to know sh*t.
Michael Copeland says
UK Parliamentarians are thoughtfully provided with an in-house source of advice about Islam. Practically all of them, MPs and Lords, are non-muslim, and have never been educated about Islam at school or University. At a guess the in-house source is muslim, probably some imams.
Here we have it: the in-house supply of taqiyya, Islam-sanctioned deception.
Small wonder so many UK politicians cite the same play-book. They are all duped by the same source.
Michael Copeland says
“Cameron is being lied to”, LibertyGB:
so are Philip Hammond and Yvette Cooper
http://libertygb.org.uk/v1/index.php/home/root/news-libertygb/5847-cameron-is-being-lied-to
Michael Copeland says
How the “ordinary man” reacts to this: an example from facebook LibertyGB:
Sean Browne
All muslims are brainwashed into believing all none muslims burn in hell, so they all are to blame.Fare enough if you believe that stay in your own war torn dusty shithole countries and don’t come over here preaching your shit.This is our country and you will never upset our peaceful society, we will never bow down or surrender to any religion.You haven’t seen nothing yet, the british pubic have just about tollorated enough of your shit and the time is close when we bite back.God help the lot of you because you’ll need him……NO SURRENDER
Michael Copeland says
How the “ordinary man” reacts to this: an example from facebook LibertyGB:
Sean Browne
All muslims are brainwashed into believing all none muslims burn in hell, so they all are to blame.Fare enough if you believe that stay in your own war torn dusty shithole countries and don’t come over here preaching your shit.This is our country and you will never upset our peaceful society, we will never bow down or surrender to any religion.You haven’t seen nothing yet, the british pubic have just about tollorated enough of your shit and the time is close when we bite back.God help the lot of you because you’ll need him……NO SURRENDER
Frank says
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”
– Edmund BURKE
James Murray says
Great quote, even though he never actually said it.
chrisleo says
Again, please, people try and make a difference, as with Cooper, send this clown an email and try and correct him on the true nature of Islam, do something rather than whining on about these people. Let them know we’re on to them and the game is up for lies about Islam.
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