Beheading people: “When you meet the unbelievers, strike the necks…” (Qur’an 47:4)
Subjugating women and girls: “Men have authority over women because Allah has made the one superior to the other, and because they spend their wealth to maintain them. Good women are obedient. They guard their unseen parts because Allah has guarded them. As for those from whom you fear disobedience, admonish them and send them to beds apart and beat them” (Qur’an 4:34)
Killing Muslims: “They wish that you reject Faith, as they have rejected (Faith), and thus that you all become equal (like one another). So take not Auliya’ (protectors or friends) from them, till they emigrate in the Way of Allah (to Muhammad SAW). But if they turn back (from Islam), take (hold) of them and kill them wherever you find them, and take neither Auliya’ (protectors or friends) nor helpers from them.” (Qur’an 4:89)
Killing Christians: “Fight those who believe not in God nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by God and His Apostle, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.” (Qur’an 9:29)
“James Foley beheading was an ‘utter betrayal of Britain’, says Philip Hammond,” by Natasha Culzac, the Independent, August 24, 2014:
…Yvette Cooper, Shadow Home Secretary added in the Sunday Times that Isis’ quest is “no Spanish civil war.”
“[Isis] extremists are beheading people and parading their heads on spikes, subjugating women and girls, killing Muslims, Christians and anyone who gets in their way. This is no liberation movement — only a perverted, oppressive ideology that bears no relation to Islam.”…
tpellow says
Labour Party’s Ms Cooper: another new ‘expert’ on Islam-
-she wants U.K Muslims’ votes, so tries to deny Islamic nature of Islamic State.
Judi says
You hit the nail on the head.
voegelinian says
If the vast majority of non-Muslims in the UK weren’t sufficiently PC MC, UK politicians wouldn’t be spewing this stuff. It’s that simple. The problem is the people, not (merely) the elites.
Wellington says
I agree, voegelinian, that the problem TO SOME EXTENT is the people, but the PEOPLE are catching on, I submit, far faster than are the ELITES.
Rob says
pc/mc must be exposed, attacked, dismantled, and discarded like one would with a straight jacket!! without doing this, islam will prevail and freedom will be crushed.
John C. Barile says
Mustn’t disturb community cohesion by admitting oh-so-distressing TRUTHS now, shall we?
Michael Copeland says
We had been waiting for David Cameron to say this was a betrayal of Islam, but Philip Hammond has said it for him. Yvette Cooper shares the “Nothing to do with Islam Islamic State” view:
Mr. Cameron knows the relevant fact to relate:
It is the “Nothing-to-do-with-Islam” Islamic State.
It’s a terrorist entity, militant entity,
“Poisonous” ideological entity,
Warping and twisting,
Perverting and smearing and
Misunderstanding and misrepresenting,
A violent extremist and radical state,
He dubs it the “so-called” Caliphate.
PRCS says
Super!
Jade says
Riiiiight. It’s just a coincidence that every one of these savage, subhumans happen to be followers of Islam. It’s another coincidence, I’m sure, that their “holy book” directs them to perform these vile acts. Who do you think you’re fooling, Ms Cooper? When these animals start attacking us on OUR soil, you and others like you will be partly to blame. You chose political correctness over actually ding something to stop them. That’s despicable.
Kenny says
But, but don’t don’t realise that these poor people are ‘misunderstanding’, Islam? Actually, it’s all”Out of context”.
Perhaps it’s the fault if their 9 year old wives leading them astray with their wantonly lascivious behaviour?
If in doubt, just blame the Jews, that always works!
Perhaps someone should as Ms Cooper why it’s called “Islamic State”, if it has nothing to do with Islam. I prefer the tried and trusted method of, if it looks like suit, smells like shit
Burt says
“….only a perverted, oppressive ideology that bears no relation to Islam.”…
Well that’s alright then because Yvette Cooper knows so much more about Islam than does Anjem Choudary, for example, who tweets daily in support of so called Islamic State, and is at large holding public meetings preaching about the Caliphate to yet more potential murderers.
He backs all his proselyting with Islamic scripture of course.
Clearly the Islamic State bears relation to Islam you stupid woman – What the hell else has it got a relationship too?
Kenny says
Actually, we should be grateful for having ‘Andy’ Choudhary. After all, doesn’t he, as the country’s biggest dickhead, show Islam up for what it is?
voegelinian says
Clam Chowdery actually helps the PC MC paradigm, by continually reminding people of the Tiny Minority of Extremists. Meanwhile, in their everyday life, they may have dealings with relatively nice and pleasant Muslim shopkeepers, barristers, bus drivers, medical assistants, police, etc., and they say to themselves, “well, most Muslims are decent chaps like these, and Choudary is just one of the ‘radicalized Islamist extremists’ who are twisting the religion of Islam; and I’m bloody well glad I’m not one of those racist EDP thugs who wants to kill all Muslims…!” et bloody cetera.
tamimisledus says
Quite correct. Which is why I speak against those who want to see him banned. The more people who see what islam is through Choudary’s pronouncements, the more people will understand why islam must be defeated. And that, if these people value their freedom, they should do whatever is in their power to stand up against this evil doctrine.
voegelinian says
I think you misunderstand my point. Chowderhead’s shenanigans only tend to serve, perversely, to reinforce the TMOE paradigm in the heads of Westerners besotted with politically correct multi-culturalism. I think you may underestimate the ability of the PC MC mindset to dig in its heels to defend “diversity” at all costs (cf. my reference to the Casey Meme above).
nacazo says
Didn’t realize they are now accepting female imams in the formerly Great Britain! How progressive of them.
Champ says
UK Shadow Home Secretary Yvette Cooper: Islamic State holds “perverted, oppressive ideology that bears no relation to Islam”
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
What a bald-faced LIE! How do these people live with themselves for spreading such rubbish?
C’mon, this evil is in the unholy quran …
Beheading people: “When you meet the unbelievers, strike the necks…” (Qur’an 47:4)
Wellington says
Your qeustion is a very valid one, Champ. I would answer it this way: I think our current Western elites live with themselves rather easily because they are fools. Yes, some of the current crop of Western elites, whether in Britain, Sweden, America, etc. probably suspect way down they are talking nonsense about Islam by way of continuning to exculpate it, but the vast majority of Western elites continue to live in a bubble of their own creation and such things as job security and silly PC/MC rot dominate their thinking.
It is extremely short-sighted, stupid and wrong of course, but very much in keeping with what characterizes who the modern Western elities are, whether in the political realm, the media or academia. Just as Islam is the most horrible religion of all time, so are the current Western elites the poorest damn excuse for elites in all of Western history. Hell, they even make people like Neville Chamberlain look good by comparison. Damn hard to do but they have “managed” this.
I do think it quite important, indeed imperative, when analyzing why Islam in our time gets away with as much as it does, to take into account just how wretched the present Western elites, speaking in the aggregate, really are. They are arguably facilitators of Isalm’s fascism like no other dhimmis in history. Bar none. Yes, they’re that bad. Can’t stand the stupid bastards.
EYESOPEN says
“They are arguably facilitators of Isalm’s fascism like no other dhimmis in history. Bar none. Yes, they’re that bad. Can’t stand the stupid bastards.”
Stop beating about the bush Wellington. Tell us how you really feel. {;o)
tamimisledus says
Well said.
voegelinian says
The short answer is that there is an anxious need among Westerners to protect the vast majority of Muslims from a “bigoted backlash”. They detect in any criticism of Islam that goes too far a dangerous trend that could easily veer into such a “backlash”. They thus have cultivated a complex set of mental and emotional (and from there, propaganda) reflexes to try to prevent such a veering by cutting it off at the pass.
Keith says
You obviously don’t know what you are talking about, of course Cooper has got her information completely correct as she got it off the back of the same cigarette packet that Obama and Cameron got their information from. I think she managed to sneak a look whilst they were trying to pass it to Putin, who obviously isn’t onside with the religion of peace process yet.
nacazo says
In other news, according to Ms. Cooper, the national-socialist Third Reich had nothing to do with nazism. They were kidnapping the benign teachings of a peaceful ideology.
salamander says
Having set myself the tortuous task of wading through the qur’an I am now ready for the loony bin, at my age I thought there was little left that could surprise me, I was wrong, how a billion and a half people have bought into what best can only be described as utter shit is beyond me. I am currently working my way through the hadiths but I think my brain in an effort to protect itself will close down. Started thinking it must be heavenly inspired nobody could make this shit up . The devil living up peoples noses, people getting pestered in their graves for pissing themselves, getting to live in a 60 mile long hollowed out pearl with wives who are invisible to each other. I think maybe we are living in some weird alternative reality and Stephen King’s writing the script. Fun is fun and done is done
No Fear says
Ditto.
pumbar says
If you believe an arab pedophile flew to heaven on a winged donkey called Buraq then you’ll pretty much believe anything.
Jay Boo says
The donkey’s full name was Buraq Obama
pumbar says
That’s more of an ass surely?
PJG says
I’ve taken another step, and I’m reading a book a friend gave me called “The Islamic Anti-Christ” by Joel Richardson. I wish she hadn’t given it to me, but too late. It makes me recall the last time I listened to Patrick Sookhdeo, who has worked so hard for years but cannot see any way out of what is coming up, the Islamisation of our countries. It is a very weird time we are living in, and getting weirder every day; as you point out the Koran is plain weird (yet people convert to Islam every day). And I just found out why the obsession Muslims have for naming their boys Muhammad, even though there is a large range of Islamic names to choose from – the Mahdi will have the name of Muhammad. I guess they are all hoping it will be their boy, because these are the “end times”.
voegelinian says
Mainstream, traditional, ordinary garden-variety Islam is essentially apocalyptic. Muslims have been expecting and waging jihad for the End Times for 1,400 years. As we know from certain minority elements of another eschatological religion, Christianity, the urgent expectation of an eschaton is not necessarily minimized or discouraged at all by the trifling fact that it hasn’t happened yet in 2,000 years; it’s always, as Annie would say, “a day away”.
voegelinian says
And when it comes to the sociopolitical disturbances and disorder which apocalypticism can foment, it doesn’t matter if said apocalypse isn’t real or true — the mere belief in it (and all the more so when fanatically so) is sufficient to generate untold mayhem, misery and mass-murder:
The road to Hell is paved with good jihad.
The deadman says
Yes wading through the Koran is indeed a mighty undertaking. I found it to be utter gobbledygook, no structure, no chronological order, massive inconsistencies, contradictions e.g. Alcohol is haram but if you die a martyr you will go to a land flowing with rivers of wine?
Prinz Eugen says
That photo shows the emptiness of those glazed eyes and the hollow skull behind them. What a lying scumbag bitch!
Burt says
Indeed. In that photo she looks as vacuous as her statement.
Champ says
We, the little people–the peons of society, know and understand the ugly truth about islam and company waaaay better than these so-called *experts* in High Places do. Hey they DON’T know squat!
EYESOPEN says
They may not know “squat”, Champ; but unfortunately they are tenured professors and government policy wonks and are listened to by the media and the clueless (oops, I made a redundancy!). THAT’S what is so dangerous.
Angemon says
610 AD, Arabia: muhammad claims to be a prophet of God.
1948 AD: Arab media report the Israeli forces are being overwhelmed and that it’s a matter of time until all jews are driven to the sea.
1967 AD: Arab media report the Israeli forces are being overwhelmed and that it’s a matter of time until all jews are driven to the sea.
2014: Yvette Cooper claims that the ideology of the caliphate has nothing to do with islam.
GP says
well done!
Jaladhi says
Another, first rate liar and hypocrite!! It’s the religion stupid!1 And you are really stupid!!
mariam rove says
This is why they are doomed. Period. M
pongidae rex says
Why -WE- are doomed….
CogitoErgoSum says
The ISIS movement bears no relation to Islam? Dear Ms. Cooper … PROVE IT. Back up what you say with some kind of supporting PROOF or keep your mouth shut.
Keith says
Well said. I agree it is time that all these so called experts and leaders who quote them start showing proof of what they are saying. Problem is they KNOW they can’t provide any proof whatsoever!
AnneM says
Do your homework!
Champ says
I give her an F minus, minus …hey does it go any lower?
St. Patrick says
Champ..You do realize you can’t grade clinically insane people..She’s obviously delusional the poor dear,along with the rest of her inane\insane so-called “English” politicians..
The ravens at the Tower of London have more smarts and common sense than they do..ttyl
Champ..Keep ’em comin’..
nacazo says
Also, from Ms. Cooper: The United Kingdom has nothing to do with kings.
pongadae rex says
The extent and depth of ‘magical thinking’ about Islam in the leadership of all Western nations, as well as their academia, is genuinely alarming. Magical thinking is a form of insanity by which a confabulation of logic can always be found to explain away or confirm any preconceived notion, no matter how absurd. To see it on this widespread a scale is historically unprecedented.
voegelinian says
Not just among the leadership; also among the majority of the ordinary general populace.
Rob says
one reason, i believe, is global stockholm syndrome on steroids. marxism is another, which breeds self hate and magical thinking. all of it delusional. most of my family and state (california) are infected.
Jack Diamond says
While Home Secretary Theresa May may introduce new anti-jihadist powers
“we are in the middle of a generational struggle against a deadly extremist ideology. That ideology is based on a warped and nihilistic interpretation of Islam and it is far removed from the peaceful beliefs held by one billion Muslims worldwide”….’in the Serious Crime Bill, she said, it will become a criminal offence to prepare and train for terrorism.’
Yes, it’s called the Serious Crime Bill. The Serious War Bill may happen the day there is a Serious Home Secretary. The “deadly extremist ideology”, of course, is Islam pure and simple, the Islam of the Qur’an and Sunnah which obligates hate and war and the subjugation of all non-Muslims upon the Earth. But why should Theresa May bother learning about the teachings of Islam when she “knows” it is a peaceful religion of a billion peaceful Muslims that has been warped by “nihilists”? How could it be otherwise? If Islam were the source of these evils, why that might lead to conclusions too frightening (and bigoted) to contemplate, and certainly to be kept from the public at large in any case.
“She also said that hundreds of people have been offered support to help prevent them from ‘drifting into extremism and violence’. Such programmes have ‘made a very significant contribution to our national security.'”
I’ll bet.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/theresa-may-to-introduce-antijihadist-powers-to-tackle-deadly-extremist-ideology-9687058.html?origin=internalSearch
No Fear says
She obviously hasn’t read the source texts of Islam.
Michael Copeland says
Yvette Cooper and Theresa May are not necessarily lying. Almost certainly they HAVE BEEN LIED TO by devout muslims diligently employing taqiyya, and are thus repeating misinformation. This is not good enough: it is irresponsible, and endangers the British public. The information is easily available on the internet.
See “Cameron is being lied to”
http://libertygb.org.uk/v1/index.php/home/root/news-libertygb/5847-cameron-is-being-lied-to
jewdog says
She’s a shadow secretary who is obviously kept in the dark when it comes to Islam.
Dave J says
First, read the Quaran.
Then look around you.
Western Country soldiers have always been disturbed by the killing that is sometimes necessary to do the right thing.
Islam has no equivalent thought, to the contrary they are consumed with righteous blood lust. Because they are intellectually stunted and programmed into hatred and intolerance from childhood.
Gardener says
Sadly, I don’t think these politicians are even lying. I think they by and large believe their nonsense to be true. They are incapable of facing reality. They simply cannot bear the idea that Islam could really be behind all the horror. Because if that were the case, then what?
So they turn their backs to reality and go into denial. And if they repeat the “it has nothing to do with Islam” mantra long enough, maybe one morning it will have come true! This is, in fact, what many Muslims do as well. They are in denial and simply refuse to look Islamic teachings directly in the eye.
That the politicians would objectively assess Islamic doctrines of governance and warfare and their repercussions is completely out of the question. It would threaten the sacred mantra of political correctness.
At this point, the only way to avoid widespread civil warfare in the West is for Muslims to wake up and smell the coffee and apostatize. The Qur’an is so blatantly not the book of God that a mass apostasy wouldn’t really be a surprise at all. It just requires that certain pieces fall into place and enough Muslims have the light bulb go on at the same time, and then practically overnight Islam will collapse.
“You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.”
ECAW says
Odd isn’t it, for those of who are familiar with Mohammed’s teachings and military career ISIS looks more like Mohammed’s original version of ISLAM than any other. We know where the beheadings, crucifixions, stonings, ultimatums to convert or die and the use of terror come from.
eg Bukhari 4:52:220
Allah’s Apostle said, “I have been sent with the shortest expressions bearing the widest meanings, and I have been made victorious with terror (cast in the hearts of the enemy), and while I was sleeping, the keys of the treasures of the world were brought to me and put in my hand.”
Encouragingly, commenters on not only the right leaning Telegraph but the left leaning Guardian and Independent are making this connection but the closer ISIS approach the roots of ISLAM the more shrilly our journalists and politician theologians have to shout the opposite. At some point, probably after a few more atrocities on our streets, the general public will also make the connection and what happens then?
fair_dinkum says
it seems IS are the only ones ‘doing islam right’
tamimisledus says
Correct. That is exactly what mohammad would say.
fair_dinkum says
“perverted, oppressive ideology that bears no relation to Islam” ????
just check whats been happening in Rotherford love..
sorry dear, but its islam at its most fundamental … you English ministers need to read a few books or..something.
you and the foreign minister, mr twit…. just disgraceful
Edward Cline says
Why are the Brits so bloody clueless about Islam? Do they even bother to dip into the Koran to see what orthodox Islam is all about? But then, perhaps I’m asking a dumb question. The UK government for years has gone out of its way to accommodate the Muslim settlers and invaders in its country, and much of that accommodation was deliberately pursued by the likes of Gordon Brown and Tony Blair in their own efforts to “transform” Britain from a Western culture into a dysfunctional “multicultural” one in which Western values are subordinated to Islamic ones. Now Britain has a a “leader” a shaking-in-his-boots wuss in the person of David Cameron. As for the “social workers” who were afraid to report the rapes of white British school girls because they didn’t want to be accused of “racism” by identifying the Muslim perps, did it ever occur to them that these criminals were practicing their own brand of racism? That was being “sensitized” to the feelings of the Muslim “community” to the point of suicide and, I’d even add, of aiding and abetting an on-going crime wave by Muslim thugs, perps, and rapists.
salamander says
As I thought, reading the hadiths has tipped me over the edge. While trying to get to sleep last night I started thinking about life in the 60 mile long hollowed out pearl that the mozzies live in after they arrive in paradise. In this pearl you have your virgins with the dark eyes and big breasts , also the wives you have been landed with, now the wives and the virgins cant see each other, my question is when you are humping one of the virgins and the missus walks in and sees you humping fresh air how do you explain what can only be described as very suspect behaviour? .
Beema says
Salamander, thank you for the best laugh. I can’t stop!
Jet Benn says
The reason is because it has been decided that Islam is Christianity. When they say ‘this all goes against Islam’ what they’re really saying is ‘this all goes against Christianity, and Islam is Christianity, therefore it goes against Islam.’ No one is reading Qur’an because that would make them ‘racists.’ Just like centuries ago when no one dared to read the Bible for themselves- it was an act of disobedience- you believed what your priest told you or else. ‘You can’t just read the Bible and understand it all by yourself. Who do you think you are?!’ As someone who has read Qur’an twice, just to make sure that I hadn’t missed what the big deal is, I can honestly report that it is not unintelligible, it is not ‘too hard to understand because it isn’t linear (boo hoo)’ and it is NOT Christianity. Its roots lie in older Jewish rabbinic scriptures, biblical stories, and the imagination of a madman. And Qur’an’s versions of Bible stories read like a TV Guide Movie synopsis: a few words that sum up the physical activities but lose the heart and soul and moral of the story. Also, yeah, Muslim votes probably have a lot to do with it, too.
GP says
I believe that CAIR and the Arab Oil money she is receiving helps her see things very clearly now. She is another sell out.
GP says
What do Hamas, Hezbollah, ISIL, and ISIL all have in common: ISLAM
The IS and its army have recruiting stations throughout the world, they are called mosques!
tamimisledus says
The evil doctrine of islam is morally and intellectually bankrupt. Any non-muslim who cannot see this (Cooper amongst them) is morally or intellectually deficient or even worse. Worse? Yes, amongst others we need to highlight the vast majority of non-muslims who are too lazy to analyse the propaganda they are being fed by muslims and the ignorant non-muslim apologists (as above). Not forgetting those who support islam as part of their own strategy to destroy “Western” values they oppose.
My apologies that I have not been able to give my explicit support to the various ways in which commentors below have exposed the weakness of the arguments defending islam.
So I hereby acknowledge the debt that I owe to you all.