This article spends most of its time assuring readers that Somali Muslims in Minnesota abhor the Islamic State, and that the FBI and the Muslim community is working to prevent people from going to join the Islamic State, but it doesn’t address the key question: why are so many Muslims trying to join the Islamic State, despite ostensible opposition from the Muslim community, and despite the FBI’s efforts, and despite the Islamic State’s opposition to the U.S., which is supposed to be the state to which they owe loyalty, and despite the obvious risks and dangers of doing so?
“St. Paul Woman Leaves Minnesota to Fight for ISIS,” by Tim Sherno, KSTP.com, September 5, 2014 (thanks to Jerk Chicken):
The latest person to leave Minnesota and travel to Syria to fight for ISIS is a 19-year-old Somali woman who had been living in St. Paul. It’s a troubling development considering recruiting in Somali communities has been limited to men in the past. Now, women appear to be the new targets.
Sadik Warfa is a Deputy Director for the Global Somali Diaspora, which is an organization supporting Somalis that repatriates expatriates here in Minnesota and around the world. Warfa says the Somali-American community shares the universal revulsion of the brutality of ISIS.
“The actions of ISIS is roundly condemned by all religious leaders all over the world,” he said. “First of all, we are Americans. We are Somali-Americans. The concern for the safety of this country concerns us all.”
Warfa points out the number of Somalis that have traveled to Syria to join ISIS is a tiny fraction of the larger community and represents individual decisions. He also says this most recent case serves as a good example that these recruits are misguided.
Kyle Loven with the FBI in Minnesota says the Bureau is working closely with the local Somali community to prevent this from happening.
“We are very actively engaged within the Somali community,” Loven said. “We’re engaged with religious leaders. We’re engaged with community leaders, and we’re engaged with concerned members of the public who are abhorred by what they see with respect to their young people and want to put a stop to it.”
The FBI says their investigation is ongoing, and they continue to look for connections between the young people on the streets of Minneapolis and St. Paul and ISIS in Syria. The community is trying to help.
Warfa’s message for young Somalis thinking about leaving the state is this: “Please work hard. You’re living in one of the greatest countries in the world. You have opportunities that don’t exist in other parts of the world. Please take advantage and study hard and become a productive member of society of this great country we have.”
Don McKellar says
Reap what ye sow.
A good old fashioned Bible quote from an atheist on this one. A good piece of literature, the Bible. It has its woth in that way.
You keep on sowing the seeds of Islam, defending it and letting it grow, and that’s what you get. That’s what the Obama regime is doing every day. And they think they’re doing good and smoothing feathers. They are idiots.
somehistory says
Another verse about sowing is “for they sow the wind and shall reap the whirlwind (Hosea 8;7).”
Don McKellar says
That is excellent! Thanks for that.
The Obama administration’s disasterous approach to Islam encapsulated in two elegant Bible quotes. Poetic.
Sadly its all going to end with a big BANG (or two) before he slithers out of office.
somehistory says
You’re welcome. It says a whole lot in a few words.
Jay Boo says
Islam is peaceful and we can prove it to her.
All we need to do is show her pages of the abrogated verses of the Koran.
Simply rip out one page at a time.
Rip, Rip, Rip
The abrogated verses serve no true purpose anyway so we might expect her to be especially thankful for Koran maintenance.
john spielman says
if you rip out all the vile passages that encourage violence in the qur’an the re will be very few page between the covers of said book
Jay Boo says
That is why I mentioned ripping out the peaceful verses instead.
I have heard an estimate of about 60 % not peaceful.
This would leave (moderate) Muslims in the position of having to explain what the unadorned Qur’an verses mean.
Beagle says
Kyle Loven with the FBI in Minnesota says the Bureau is working closely with the local Somali community to prevent this from happening.
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Not enough to do anything about it but Muslim outreach, but what do you expect for your many billions wasted on homeland security (theater)?
If the Tea Party even blinks you can be sure the FBI will sweep in and put an end to that lickety split. No Qurans will be burned on Obama’s watch. Heretical videographers of ProMo will face hard time. Also, the Ferguson, MO PD will never have a chance to commit an act of terror on our soil.
Feel safe yet?
medina says
These departing fighters are the tip of the iceberg in the U.S. There are thousands inside our borders and who will be surprised when they turn on us? I fully expect a terror attack here and to think otherwise is to ignore the obvious.
Michael Copeland says
Which will it be? Mumbai, Nairobi, Madrid, Beslan, London 7/7, Paris Metro, Moscow subway, Moscow airport…… and so on.
There is quite a choice.
mortimer says
Muslims all know that ‘moderate Islam’ is a fraud.
When will the Democrats learn there is no moderate Islam.
The French have learnt it now with ALL Muslims supporting ISIS in France.
GP says
“What the horn is to the rhinoceros, what the sting is to the wasp, the Mohammadan faith is to the Arabs.”
“An appeaser is one who feeds the crocodile hoping it will eat him last.”
-Sir Winston Churchill The River War 1899
gravenimage says
This article spends most of its time assuring readers that Somali Muslims in Minnesota abhor the Islamic State
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Gee—except for this 19-year-old Muslimah and all the others who have run off to wage violent Jihad for the Islamic State, and before that for Al-Shebaab…
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Kyle Loven with the FBI in Minnesota says the Bureau is working closely with the local Somali community to prevent this from happening.
“We are very actively engaged within the Somali community,” Loven said…
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And why might that be? Are they equally “engaged” over this matter with the Hispanic community of San Antonio, Texas? With the Polish community of Chicago, Illinois? With the Amish community of Lancaster, Pennsylvania? With the Episcopalian community of Hartford, Connecticut?
Of course not. Despite the denials, they are “working with” the Muslim “community” because it is generating so very many Jihadists.
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Warfa says the Somali-American community shares the universal revulsion of the brutality of ISIS…
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This is not the first time Sadik Warfa has run interference for Muslims in Minnesota when their Jihad terror activities have brought the spotlight of American law enforcement on them:
“Sadik Warfa, an active member of the Somali Community, said he has faith in the justice system, but he hopes the conviction won’t lead to a misconception.
“I don’t want a few bad apples to make a bad name for the 99.9 percent of good Somali Americans,” Warfa said. “We are here to stay. This is our home. The message that I want to send is: We want America to be safe and secure as well as anybody else.”
http://www.myfoxtwincities.com/story/19857608/jury-reaches-verdict-in-somalia-terrorism-case
This was when Somalis were rushing off to join Al-Shebaab and wage violent Jihad in Somalia and neighboring Kenya.
Same old Taqiyya—and even the FBI is willing to play along. Good grief…
Dave J says
99.9 % are peace loving moderates – right. That’s why violent attacks are so rare.
Jay Boo says
Now now
Let’s not be so judgmental. Just because the overwhelming vast majority of terrorist attacks are coincidentally committed by intolerant Mohammad inspired Muslims does not mean there is a correlation.
Then again …
Fr. Basil says
Has anyone but I noticed that mahometan jihadistas are so brave they hide their faces?
Jay Boo says
Also, I wonder if deep down inside they are a bit ashamed to be Muslim.
Daniel Passer says
Obama is not anywhere close to being up to the task of Commander In Chief. I believe that, if it were possible, George Washington would have had Obama, – and Holder – tried and punished as traitors, for their complicit acts of treason (Fast and Furious, the IRS Scandal, Benghazi, leaving our borders wide open, the ever-exploding US debt crisis, CONSTANTLY ATTEMPTING TO WEAKEN THE SECOND AMENDMENT IN THE US BILL OF RIGHTS SO THAT ONLY VIOLENT OUTLAWS AND AN EVER MORE POTENTIALLY VIOLENT GOVERNMENT HAS GUNS, not putting the very affordable infrastructure in place to protect the United States against an EMP, defunding training for the US National Guard, playing politics with Iraq – by destabilizing Iraq by withdrawing American military personnel which created the power vacuum islamist barbarian terrorists will ALWAYS be there to fill). If not George Washington, then Congress would have had the sensibility to try both of them for treason, and punish, them according to law. We need Congress to immediately strip Obama of his power as Commander In Chief – for overwhelming gross negligence and overwhelming gross incompetence, with a two thirds vote. Congress needs to immediately appoint a competent US military General as the Commander In Chief, such as General David Petraeus. These are extremely desperate times. Obama uses the US Constitution for toilet paper. His behavior is a fascistic. He is an egomaniac when it comes to the major issues of our time. WHEN POLICIES ARE ANTITHETICAL TO EVERYTHING THAT AMERICA STANDS FOR – THEN THOSE POLICIES ARE TANTAMOUNT TO TREASON.We need such a good solution immediately – actually, yesterday – if not sooner.
james hazan says
I do not see a problem here,quite the contrary,we should encourage more and more Muslim, men and woman to join Isis,since we have decided to kill them off within 3 years,where is the problem?
Robert C Thompson says
I like that idea! Let them ALL go over there, that way we can get rid of them. One way or the other.
SpiritOf1683 says
Let them go, but don’t let them come back. Of course, an uneducated Somali wannabe terrorist is worth more to the US than a Polish Catholic girl whose parents are US citizens.
Oliver says
Hello,
I agree with the first part-let them go but not come back.
HOWEVER, I do not understand the second part-wannabe Somali, etc.
Can you, please, explain. (Not being sarcastic, jsut don’t understand what you are referring to).
Thanks you
Jay Boo says
Muslims love to accuse us of “Warring against their god”.
Might as well make it official.
I declare a Fatwa against Allah
for crimes against humanity.
for stretching the limits of credulity.
I declare a fatwa against MO’s shameless figment.
fair_dinkum says
im sure shes in for some horror stories. i doubt theyre treated like princesses.
Jay Boo says
I read somewhere that she intended to serve nursing wounded jihadi fighters.
gravenimage says
She’ll probably wind up performing “Sex Jihad” for scores of horny Jihadists instead, Jay Boo.
Jay Boo says
gravenimage
I had that suspicion too.
Andy says
They all are somalian not european. France gave them breakground to grow. And now they reap what they sow
Jay Boo says
Islam is intolerant
Small minded people will scoff when I suggest banning Islam and mosques.
They will say what about being more inclusive.
CAIR will back them up.
But remember when people said the same thing about banning DDT and slavery.
Aren’t we all better off without such things.
No, I am not talking about banning the Koran or deporting Muslims.
Let’s not be ridiculous. I am not a radical bug-eyed banner of books.
The Koran should be preserved as a historical relic of evils unveiled.
Some pages should be documented and preserved in the Comedy Hall of Fame.
Jay Boo says
Islam and mosques have no place in a modern tolerant multi-cultural society.
Margos says
The Somalis are teaching the West a lesson about Muslim Immigration but the West don’t listen. Somalia for 23 years of war, who is supporting it? 23 years of misery, poverty and war? who is behind it? it is not China it is not Congo, most of the people who is supporting and funding the problem is themselves, probably the same people who moved to America and Europe and said they run away from prosecution. This years Nato summit should of be focusing about Mogadishu not Kiev and Gaza.
DiMu says
It may be a minority of Somalis who are joining ISIS, but that’s all it takes to create havoc and mayhem.
Rebecca says
It’s our fault.
We’re promoting a society that is free, and great and offers many opportunities.
But provides so little meaning to young people who are searching. What ISIS is offering them is a way to feel fulfilled and a life that is full of faith and meaning. (Watch their recruiting videos- that’s what their all about. And they prey upon innocent, naive people who are seeking a more spiritually rich life in the increasingly empty world that we live in. Where the only thing important to young ppl are updating their facebook profiles and tweeting what they ate for breakfast that morning.
I’m NOT condoning ISIS. They are the most violent, abhor able people whom I despise. They are a threat to anyone in this world who believe in freedom of religion and morality.
I’m just pointing out, that as great as our society is- we are lacking in a very important area- inner joy and meaning, as evident by the amount of ppl in therapy, on anti-depressants, divorce rate….etc.
Maybe instead of looking to condemn ISIS, we should look at ourselves and think about how we can give our society more meaning.
gravenimage says
Rebecca wrote:
It’s our fault.
We’re promoting a society that is free, and great and offers many opportunities.
But provides so little meaning to young people who are searching…
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I’m sorry—this is crap. Whatever the shortcomings of the modern West, there are *plenty* of outlets for doing something meaningful.
Besides, if this is all the fault of the West, then why are no many *non-Western* Muslims drawn to violent Jihad? Are the Jihadists of Nigeria, and Somalia, and Iraq, and Syria, and Western China, and Sudan and southern Russia, and Afghanistan all drawn to violent Jihad by the spiritual emptiness of the West?
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What ISIS is offering them is a way to feel fulfilled and a life that is full of faith and meaning. (Watch their recruiting videos- that’s what their all about.
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Really? Many young people are searching for meaning. Why is it that it is *only Muslims* who believe they have found that meaning in the horrors of the Islamic State?
I suppose it couldn’t have anything to do with their having grown up with a creed that emphasizes waging violent Jihad? sarc/off
Moreover, describing beheading journalists, using Infidel women as sex slaves, and committing genocide as a “life full of faith and meaning” simply could not be more sickening.
Only pious Muslims and their craven apologists consider any of this oppression and bloodshed to be “spiritual”.
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And they prey upon innocent, naive people who are seeking a more spiritually rich life in the increasingly empty world that we live in. …………………………………………..
More crap. Most of the ISIS recruiting videos I’ve seen emphasize waging violent Jihad. While some of these young Muslims may not realize *everything* they’re getting into, the idea that they are innocents believing they are going off to live a “more spiritually rich life” and are shocked by having to wage violent Jihad strains credulity.
Besides, if this were true, we would see a flood of young Muslims returning to the West denouncing the brutality of ISIS.
Instead, apart for a few scattered grumblings at having to fight other Sunni Muslims—note that there are *no* denouncements of violently targeting Infidels—many of those returning have been actively recruiting more of their coreligionists.
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Where the only thing important to young ppl are updating their facebook profiles and tweeting what they ate for breakfast that morning.
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Yeah—those are the only two choices young people have in the West. Vapidly pursuing social media or running off to mass-murders unbelievers…sarc/off
And while it is not a major point, these two things are not even mutually exclusive—lots of Jihadists from the West are now using Twitter to recruit for ISIS and are posting their beheading videos to YouTube. What an improvement! sarc/off
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I’m NOT condoning ISIS. They are the most violent, abhor able people whom I despise. They are a threat to anyone in this world who believe in freedom of religion and morality.
I’m just pointing out, that as great as our society is- we are lacking in a very important area- inner joy and meaning, as evident by the amount of ppl in therapy, on anti-depressants, divorce rate….etc.
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And *nothing* leads to “inner joy and meaning” like stoning an “adulteress’ to death or beheading a journalist…
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Maybe instead of looking to condemn ISIS, we should look at ourselves and think about how we can give our society more meaning.
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Of course! How *dare* we condemn the most evil horror of our time when we have too many people in therapy! What gall we must have. Can’t we see this is just as bad or worse than what the “spiritually rich” ISIS is doing? sarc/off
What this twit is incapable of understanding is that standing against evil is one of the things *that gives life meaning*.
Engaging in moral equivalence between blackest evil and small hypocrisies, in fact, could not be indicative of the very ethical shallowness that Rebecca is—supposedly—condemning.
Oceanside says
And by “Muslima”, you mean Muslim?
We need to stop inventing new terms and playing into political correctness.
Paul says
Where in America would YOU store your stockpile of weapons and ammo if YOU were an Islamic statist in America?
Would you store them at any place which can be easily traced to Islamic leadership?
Jay Boo says
Fortunately the Islamic leadership is more porous than most MSM readers suspect.
They have many enemies and few good places to hide.
Oliver says
Two items-not sure if either is totally accurate.
I realzie that this is still summer (I am in FL-summer or spring almost all year), but winter is approaching, and it gets cold in Minn. Therefore, she probably doesn’t have money or skills (other then, probably luing on her back, legs spread apart) so is joining ISIS to excape the upcoming cold,, and be in a warm place.
Which leads to the second item.
She doesn’t have a (one or more) boy friends, and is horny, and feels that she can have all the sex–and with Muslims, so not risk having a screw with a Christian, athiest, or heaven forbid, a Jew. (I don’t think that there are many Hindus or Buddists in Minn., so left them out).
Just thoughts.
gravenimage says
Oh, come on, Oliver.
Lots of people get tired of Minnesota winters. Most of them just decide to move to Arizona or Hawaii or your own Florida—they don’t run off to a hellish Jihad zone.
And if she just wanted to have lots of random sex, she could just run off to San Francisco or Las Vegas or the Bunny Ranch and go to town.
The most obvious answer is that she is going off to wage violent Jihad for exactly the same reason that her Muslim “brothers” are going off to wage violent Jihad—because she is a devout Muslim who believes in putting the vile tenets of Islam into action.
Why is it that so many people seem incapable of believing that pious Muslims are actually motivated by Islam?
Oliver says
To some extent, I was being a bit sarcastic ( which i did NOT note,
But, as was said before- blacks are considered inferior to Arab (Muslims) so why the hell are Somalians (Somalia, being in Africa, leads me to believe that most if not almost all Somalians are black) going to fight for something that considers them inferior? Brain dead? brain washed?
I agree with Mr. Vogelman, with whom Mr. Wellington disagrees- seek a way to deport these 5th Columnists. or just let them go.
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On the topic of Somalians.
I used to know some people in New England, who had relatives in a city in Mass. The city was peaceful, then the geniuses in DC (Dumb Creeps) decided to relocate Somalians to said city. (Fairly small city–not Boston or cambridge). So they did so–without checking or knowing- these people were clannish and ( for want of a better term) area related. So, they located, near each other-people from different clans and different areas WHO HATED EACH OTHER.
the result–a peaceful municipality was wracked with drive by shootings; crime, etc.
And taxes went up- to pay for the slime on welfare ( and, I guess, their bullets).
doreva says
here’s a quote from the Bible that (proverbs 1) that would well apply in these days of young people going off to join up with the barbaric islamists of isis:
10 My son, if sinners entice thee, consent thou not.
11 If they say, Come with us, let us lay wait for blood, let us lurk privily for the innocent without cause:
12 Let us swallow them up alive as the grave; and whole, as those that go down into the pit:
13 We shall find all precious substance, we shall fill our houses with spoil:
14 Cast in thy lot among us; let us all have one purse:
15 My son, walk not thou in the way with them; refrain thy foot from their path:
16 For their feet run to evil, and make haste to shed blood.
of course, the islamists think that the koran is superior to The Bible so why would they bother to take heed of its wise warnings!
andrew sapia says
I am of the opinion that anyone willing to give up their comfortable western lifestyle to go to fight for the Islamic state are the hard core of the hard core. This is a blessing in disguise, let them go, hopefully they will be killed which means they cannot do us harm in the future. Make it very clear, in fact pass legislation that those who leave to fight for the Islamic state have their citizenship revoked. This can be done by congress. If you are a naturalized citizen and you go, you are not welcome back and your citizenship is revoked. Those who still want to go, good, bye bye, don’t let the door hit you on the way out Umar. If they knew for certain that they would never be allowed back and never see their families here again, they would think twice about going. The ones who go anyway are the hard core and that is good, go, hopefully you die, if not, you can’t come back here. It’s a win win for us.
David says
For all the left wing liars who claim Islam is favourable to women, here is another example to expose your lies. Saudi Arabia selects all-male Asian games team.
http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CB8QqQIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.smh.com.au%2Fsport%2Fwomen-sidelined-as-saudi-arabia-selects-allmale-asian-games-team-20140909-10e5u9.html&ei=gtINVJm8McTnuQSFhYHIDA&usg=AFQjCNHnT1F-en7NNYjiChiQtRLT9cJZ5Q&sig2=jeqmj-4Q2D_7q2fHjhnZGA