And many of them are going to come home. Cameron wants to revoke their passports, but he faces a stiff fight in making that happen, and he seems already to know that he is not going to be able to do that, as he is also recommending that returning jihadis be forced to attend “deradicalization programs” — which have already failed in Indonesia and Saudi Arabia, and will fail in Britain.
“Passports to Jihad,” Wall Street Journal, September 4, 2014:
Some 600 British citizens are waging jihad in Iraq and Syria with U.K. passports tucked in their pockets. The masked men appearing in Internet videos showing the murders of American journalists James Foley and Steven Sotloff spoke with London accents. So it’s not a moment too soon for Whitehall and other European governments to address the threat such terrorists pose.
David Cameron is calling for the government to restrict or rescind the passports of jihad-bound citizens before they leave the country, and Home Secretary Theresa May has threatened to deprive those Britons already fighting with the Islamic State of their citizenship. The Dutch and Australian governments, among others, are considering similar measures….
john spielman says
that’s one way to get rid of islamists in the UK. Perhaps the message should be sent out to all islamists around the world that the next front of the ISIS war is in Antarica
Don McKellar says
Hey, that’s a little like the comment I was writing while you were writing yours. Great minds…
tpellow says
– Suggestion for all British citizens:
do not vote in the General Election 2015, for any political party which:
a.) allows Islamic jihadists to return to U.K;
b.) does not promise to end the ban on Americans, Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer, principled opponents of Islamic jihad.
Truth says
Also, vote to eliminate any UK taxes being used in any way for unelected British royalty (police protection, etc), and abolish the House of Lords forever.
Don McKellar says
I’ve got a solution to this problem.
You designate an empty island off of Antarctica as a new country — say, Islamoarctica — strip them of their British citizenship and give them citizenship to Islamoarctica and ship them all there as soon as they come back.
Then, even if they survive and are rescued, they can’t enter the UK as they are Islamoarctica citizens.
wildjew says
OT: Rand Paul on Fox News this morning is peddling, “Civilized Islam, (which constitutes) the vast majority of Muslims” worldwide, etc.
Don McKellar says
“Civilized Islam” means that by default that there is an “Uncivilized Islam”. He hasn’t thought this through at all, has he? Perhaps there’ll be a fatwa on his head for saying that Islam can be uncivilized.
wildjew says
Rand Paul and his father both believe a nuclear Iran can be contained, just like Obama says ISIS will be contained or managed. Rep. Ron Paul has expressed or implied sympathies for Hamas, Hezbollah, nuclear Iran, the Palestinian cause. I’ve not see Rand Paul repudiate any of his father’s foreign policy views. U.S. cutting off aid to Israel, that I support my guess is for different reasons than Ron and Rand Paul support it.
Wetwork56 says
“Deradicalization Programs”? These are not people with bad driving habits. To even consider this when they know it will not work is just another example of a government wasting its money at taxpayers expense and inviting a future catastrophe at the expense of that governments citizenry.
In the past traitors were SHOT. Those that were caught not wearing a uniform and fighting you were considered spies and were SHOT. Here in the U.S. are put to death for Murder, rape, and terrorist activities. See the pattern? These individuals should know going into a foreign country to support these terrorist animals will first, cost you your country and passport back, and two, if caught trying to enter said country you will be SHOT as well.
Michael Copeland says
“De-radicalisation” is a joke. It is defined in the government’s “Prevent” strategy (a free download) as:
“usually …activity …intended to effect …change”.
Note that this does not include any result. If the “activity” happens with the due intention that is all that is called for. If it does not happen, well, that is the less “usually”.
“De-radicalisation usually refers to activity aimed at a person who supports terrorism and in some cases has engaged in terrorist related activity, which is intended to effect cognitive and/or behavioural change leading to a new outlook on terrorism and/or disengagement from it.”
mortimer says
Cameron should not only revoke passports…he should PAY AIRFARE of any youths that want to go on jihad and get them PERMANENTLY out of the United Kingdom!
Coolio says
There is already a law on the UK statute books to deal with this problem: Treason, still punishable by death.
UKIP is the only UK party not in denial about is-lam and able to respond to jihad.
However, if Scotland votes for independance soon then the UK will have a major constituational problem and Cameron may try to postpone the May 15 General Election…
Mirren10 says
”There is already a law on the UK statute books to deal with this problem: Treason, still punishable by death”
I’m afraid you’re wrong, there, Coolio.
Blair passed legislation making treason **no longer punishable by death**.
Reasonable minds can wonder exactly why …
Rezali Mehil says
Some Sunnis want to come back home – missing mummy
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2744620/Dozens-British-jihadis-want-return-home-Intermediary-claims-30-British-men-requests-disillusioned-conflict.html
Perhaps they have learnt their lesson – but at any rate 30 of them will be back to a town near you soon….sunni side up.
More Later….
Rezali
GP says
“600 Muslims from Britain now waging jihad for the Islamic State”
Okay that makes 600 less murderous jihadists that they know about in Britain. So what does that leave about 3,000,000 similar minded islamists back inside the UK, making up their fifth column? Don’t forget about the 1500 mosques there spreading the message for “the religion of peace”!
Richie says
Given how the UK government slobbers all over Muslims, it makes me wonder if George Galloway is in charge
george whyte says
Hardcore ISIS Extremists Captured and Reduced to Crybabies (Video) http://www.rightwingnews.com/top-news/hardcore-isis-extremists-captured-reduced-crybabies-video/
DiMu says
Parliament should pass a law banning free speech which seeks to destroy democracy. All imams preaching jihad should be arrested. Military spending should be increased for the looming civil war. Imams should be made to publicly recant the most egregious verses of the Koran, like striking the necks of infidels, before they are allowed to preach one word.
This is a fight to the death conflict.
BC says
From the Guardian. A Scottish woman who travelled to Syria and married an Islamic State (Isis) fighter told her parents she wanted to become a martyr and would see them again on the “day of judgment”.
Aqsa Mahmood left her family home in Glasgow last November and called her parents from the Turkish border before entering Syria to tell them of her intention to join the radical movement.
Speaking publicly for the first time, her parents Muzaffar and Khalida Mahmood have told of their heartbreak at hearing she did not intend to return home.
Speaking to American broadcaster CNN, her father wept as he recalled his daughter’s words.
“One message was that, ‘I will see you on the day of judgment. I will take you to heaven, I will hold your hand.’ That’s what she said. ‘I want to become a martyr.”‘
In an emotional television appeal following a statement released in the UK earlier this week, Khalida Mahmood pleaded with her daughter to come back.
“Aqsa, my dear daughter please come back, I’m missing you so much. Your brothers and sisters miss you a lot. My dearest daughter, in the name of Allah, please come home. I love you.”
The privately-educated 20-year-old former radiography student exhorted Muslims to carry out terrorist attacks in the west via a Twitter account under the name Umm Layth. “Follow the examples of your brothers from Woolwich, Texas and Boston,” she tweeted. “‘If you cannot make it to the battlefield, then bring the battlefield to yourself.” The account has since been deleted.
Mahmood travelled through Turkey to Aleppo in Syria last year and was reported missing to police.
Melanie Smith from King’s College International Centre for the Study of Radicalisation, who has been tracking 21 British women who have joined Isis through their social media accounts, told the Guardian around 200 western women are believed to have been recruited to join the extremist group.
Two myths are demolished here.
A. IS is not about real Islam
B. The jihadists attracted to IS are the underprivileged and marginalised
And one proof that Islam causes insanity