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Australia: In wake of jihad beheadings of Foley and Sotloff, Muslim leaders condemn…Tony Abbott

Sep 7, 2014 8:32 am By Robert Spencer

AustraliaMuslimleaders“The time is fast approaching – or here already – when we must conclude it is futile to keep urging Muslim leaders to make a stand against jihadism.” For years now, it has been the same story: Muslim commit jihad terror attacks, and Muslim leaders in the West issue vague, pro-forma condemnations, without lifting a finger to implement a single plan of action designed to stop jihad terror attacks from happening, or even to teach against this understanding of Islam that they ostensibly reject. And periodically, a non-Muslim leader or spokesman says, “It’s time for moderate Muslims to step up and stop this hijacking of their faith” — and then it’s way past time, and way past way past time, and still there is no Muslim movement against jihad terror, and still no one thinks anything is amiss.

“Muslim leaders once again see beheading, attack Abbott,” by Andrew Bolt, Herald Sun, September 3, 2014 (thanks to Peter):

August 20 – We learn of the beheading by jihadists of US journalist James Foley:

ISIS has tried to send a warning to the U.S. in about the most horrifying manner imaginable: by broadcasting the execution of an American citizen captured in Syria over 600 days ago.


August 20
– More than 60 of Australia’s Muslim leaders and groups rush out a statement condemning … Tony Abbott:


This statement articulates our position with respect to the counter-terrorism proposals announced by the Abbott Government earlier this month… We – the undersigned imams, activists, leaders, community organisations and student bodies of the Muslim community – denounce these proposals and the broader ‘war on terror’ regime within which they fit…

These laws clearly target Muslims and they do so unjustly… The primary basis of these laws is a trumped up ‘threat’ from ‘radicalised’ Muslims returning from Iraq or Syria…

We also reject government attempts to divide the Muslim community into ‘radicals’ and ‘moderates’ and to use the community for its agenda… We are not fooled by those who speak against violence and terrorism but are its proponents at an institutional level through military and foreign policies. We are not fooled by those who speak of peace but maintain cordial ties with dictatorial regimes abroad and who support and justify the most heinous of violence inflicted on innocent people as seen recently in Gaza.


September 3
– We learn of the beheading by jihadists of US journalist Steven Sotloff:

THE British executioner who killed US photographer James Foley is believed to have beheaded US journalist Steven Sotloff in a new video released by the Islamic State.


September 3
– The Australian National Imams Council rushes out a statement condemning … Tony Abbott:

 

The Australian National Imams Council (ANIC), as stated previously, believes that one of the main causative factor for local radicalisation in the west has been the western governments’ military involvement in the Middle East. The support of unjust, dictatorial regimes as well as unilateral military aggression based on duplicitous foreign policy positions has only aggravated the state of global fear and violence.

If the Australian government is serious about reducing the terror threat locally, then it must review its foreign policy decisions with regard to this region. It is on this basis that His Eminence, Professor Ibrahim Abu Mohamed, Grand Mufti of Australia and ANIC, opposes the government’s current decision to transport and provide weapons to the Kurdish forces in Iraq.

The decision by the government, given the complexities present in Iraq, is confounded by the … likelihood of mission creep given the government has already foreshadowed the possibility of deploying SAS soldiers and fighter jets…

The Government will be imputed for further radicalization locally if it continues military intervention in the middle East.

The timing, once again, is shameful. The attacks on Abbott are ludicrous. Blaming the West for jihadist terrorism is deceitful. Criticising the West more than the terrorists is alarming. And the repeated warnings that we must change our policies in the Middle East or face more terrorism at home are deeply sinister.

The time is fast approaching – or here already – when we must conclude it is futile to keep urging Muslim leaders to make a stand against jihadism. The truth may well be that that Islam – or these leaders’ constituents – give them no freedom to condemn what threatens the rest of us.

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  1. Gayle Spencer says

    Sep 7, 2014 at 8:43 am

    Devout Muslim – the one who wields the blade or pulls the trigger

    Moderate Muslim – the one who buys the steel or the ammo and/or who cheers (even if silently)

    • kikorikid says

      Sep 7, 2014 at 1:01 pm

      A Jihadi is a guy, who, the day before was a Moderate, decided to answer the Imams call to Jihad. He then moves into the Mosque, a refuge for Mujahedeen,
      Jihadis, and begins his career. Food, shelter, and training quickly follow.

    • Nicky says

      Sep 7, 2014 at 1:23 pm

      These people should be considered potential terrorist and put on the watch list.

      • cliffface says

        Sep 8, 2014 at 2:26 am

        Nothing new here !.
        Abbot has balls and a brain and will not fold.
        Even if they do have what looks like a Ray Charles (RIP) clone.
        So much to hide and so few places left to hide it.
        ANIC can’t afford this to go from magnifying glass to microscope but it will because it has to.
        And every time they issue a statement they reveal more of the reason why.

  2. Phil Curtis says

    Sep 7, 2014 at 9:08 am

    Two means to the same end!

  3. chris says

    Sep 7, 2014 at 9:37 am

    This is a terror threat. What they are in fact saying is that if Australia does anything to stop this Islamic beast from its reign of terror that they will thenceforth indoctrinate their gullible salvation seeking followers to fight Australis in jihad. Don’t be fooled by the way they express themselves in a non self identifying non partaking in the process manner. This is their message they are expressing the contents of their heart. and it shows just how deeply this Trojan horse has engrained itself into the fabric of our nations. The audacity is unbelievable. The only answer possible is: “come get some and you’ll all end up in internment camps”

    • TH says

      Sep 7, 2014 at 3:03 pm

      Then, what Australia and another otherr country with a government with a minimum of common sense should do is investigate the imans and jail them for promoting terroris. Then proceed to close down all mosques which are promoting jihad, expell all those who are not citizens and who are involved in jihad. They could also make a law deopriving of citizenship of all other jihadis be they in Austalia o elsewhere. Afther that, they could begin making life more difficult for muslims in Australia even offer them money to go back to their original countries. The State would save a lot of money by getting rid of them as many of them are on the dole and a burden to the health and social security system. They should be told fortwith that if they don’t fulfill they laws of the country that they will either be deported or pay other consequences such as deprival of citizenship. Why would a country governed by people with a sound mind want a Trojan horse in their midst and the real possibility of grave acts fo terrorism.
      In order to do all of that they should make it clear to the citizens that islam is not just a religion but also a totalitarian political project which wants to either submit or kill those who don’t want to accept it.

      They only thing they understand is force. If the West fails to learn form Isreal on how to deal with them, we are all lost. Once they hit, then they should be made pay dire consequences.

      • Robert Leighton says

        Sep 7, 2014 at 3:40 pm

        This writer is darn right. Jihadis have infiltrated our societies, the only
        answer is to stop them now, use all laws and military force as necessary, shut down the imams. Some of us remember Adolph Hitler, who some people thought could be placated, and look what happened.
        I recall that somewhere in the Bible it says: “If thine eye offend thee, cut it out.” We have a cancer growing in our midst.

      • Keith says

        Sep 7, 2014 at 5:09 pm

        You say “Why would a country governed by people with a sound mind want a Trojan horse in their midst and the real possibility of grave acts fo terrorism.”

        Who ever said that present day western governments are of sound mind?

        • Rajivi says

          Sep 8, 2014 at 1:17 pm

          Good observation

  4. Michael Copeland says

    Sep 7, 2014 at 11:20 am

    Extremist and Moderate: Picture
    https://www.facebook.com/LibertyGBParty/photos/pb.376566465793805.-2207520000.1410099460./613750525408730/?type=1&theater

  5. Jay Boo says

    Sep 7, 2014 at 11:53 am

    Comedy Central’s enlightened (useful idiots)

    We can expect (Jihad Central) to see the jihad beheadings from ISIS point of view and to disguise their pandering as satire.

    Comedy Central’s
    Stephen Colbert show — the Colbert Report
    Jon Stewart — The Daily Show

    • Jay Boo says

      Sep 7, 2014 at 1:40 pm

      A sample of some JW links

      http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/01/jon-stewart-carries-water-for-hamas-linked-cair-rep-smears-freedom-fighter
      http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/11/jon-stewart-unapologetic-for-being-a-useful-idiot-inviting-yusuf-kill-rushdie-islam-to-sanity-rally
      http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/07/spencer-on-the-daily-show-with-jon-stewart
      http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/10/stewart-colbert-sanity-rally-features-yusuf-islam-who-called-for-the-murder-of-salman-rushdie
      http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/04/comedy-central-submits-to-islamic-intimidation-now-south-park-cannot-even-say-the-word-muhammad

  6. duh_swami says

    Sep 7, 2014 at 12:02 pm

    ‘Everyone complains about the weather, but no one does anything about it’…So much for fancy speaches.

  7. Lee Hicks says

    Sep 7, 2014 at 12:06 pm

    Islam at large will never do anything to oppose “radical Islamists”, as it is the same god that is served. Claims of a peaceful version of Islam are simply lies from the chief of all liars, and the same jihad is being pursued through other means.

    Deception and brutality is at the heart of this religion, and any Muslims who claim otherwise are either massively self-deceived, or are simply using lies to further jihad. In either case, they are to be resisted and disbelieved every time.

  8. pdxnag says

    Sep 7, 2014 at 12:33 pm

    When so-called moderate Muslims learn the unvarnished truth about the evil of unadulterated Islam they must surely race to announce their apostasy. Otherwise folks can fairly conclude that they are not really moderate, for there is no such thing as a moderate Muslim just as there is no moderate Islam. I like the phrase lazy Muslim. But a lazy Muslim is one that is hardly assertive enough even to announce that they are Muslim.

    Deport or expel assertive Muslims and let them whine forever from afar, rather than next door as they violently agitate for supremacy and application exclusively of Sharia law.

    Pre-violent jihad will transition soon enough, if not arrested.

    • Jay Boo says

      Sep 7, 2014 at 1:15 pm

      When we feed the bear the bear loses its fear and no longer respects our boundary.

  9. Ron Chato says

    Sep 7, 2014 at 2:00 pm

    We regularly hear, usually from educated well spoken muslim females, that these kind of actions, despite repeated ad nauseum all over the Muslim world, are not Islam. (Theyrte too busy calling for death to Israel and death to the Jews to notice).They strongly believe their personal gentle inclusive respectful philosophy defines what islam really is.

    Unfortunately they haven’t worked out that murderous scum like ISIS also believe the same thing. And THEY are the ones actively pursuing power, THEY are the practical reality of Islam, NOT the nice likeable spokeswomen. Neither has it dawned that in ISIS-land they would just be property and their spokesmanship and input would be history.

  10. gerard says

    Sep 7, 2014 at 3:31 pm

    Kick them out. Shut down the 5th column of Islam in our countries. Anything less is just window-dressing.
    Of course the Western govs won’t do what needs to be done and so it will go to war. UK, USA, Australia, France… will become like Iraq, Syria, Lebanon…

  11. gravenimage says

    Sep 7, 2014 at 3:37 pm

    Australia: In wake of jihad beheadings of Foley and Sotloff, Muslim leaders condemn…Tony Abbott
    …………………………..

    Of course they do—what’s the beheading of a couple of filthy Infidels compared to the “injustice” of “Islamophobes” concerned about the beheading of filthy Infidels?

    More:

    These laws clearly target Muslims and they do so unjustly… The primary basis of these laws is a trumped up ‘threat’ from ‘radicalised’ Muslims returning from Iraq or Syria…
    …………………………..

    “Trumped up”, huh? Yeah—how could pious Muslims who have been trained to wage violent Jihad, behead innocent Kaffirs, and commit genocide against non-Muslims *possibly* present a threat to unbelievers when they come back to Dar-al-Harb? sarc/off

    More:

    We also reject government attempts to divide the Muslim community into ‘radicals’ and ‘moderates’ and to use the community for its agenda…
    …………………………..

    Well, they basically just admitted that there are no moderate Muslims. But how many Infidels will even notice?

    Consider how much more bellicose their rhetoric has gotten. Ten years ago, they probably would have been emphasizing just how ‘moderate’ the entire Muslim community was. Now they are more emboldened…

    More:

    We are not fooled by those who speak against violence and terrorism but are its proponents at an institutional level through military and foreign policies. We are not fooled by those who speak of peace but maintain cordial ties with dictatorial regimes abroad and who support and justify the most heinous of violence inflicted on innocent people as seen recently in Gaza
    …………………………..

    In other words, do *anything* to resist Jihad, no matter how mild or scattershot, and you are being ‘Islamophobic’…

    And note how they are conflating *resistance* to Jihad as “violence and terrorism”.

    More:

    The Australian National Imams Council (ANIC), as stated previously, believes that one of the main causative factor for local radicalisation in the west has been the western governments’ military involvement in the Middle East. The support of unjust, dictatorial regimes as well as unilateral military aggression based on duplicitous foreign policy positions has only aggravated the state of global fear and violence.
    …………………………..

    Again, the canard that cause of violent Jihad is…resistance to violent Jihad…

    More:

    If the Australian government is serious about reducing the terror threat locally, then it must review its foreign policy decisions with regard to this region. It is on this basis that His Eminence, Professor Ibrahim Abu Mohamed, Grand Mufti of Australia and ANIC, opposes the government’s current decision to transport and provide weapons to the Kurdish forces in Iraq.
    …………………………..

    In other words, any resistance to the sanguinary horror of the Islamic States, which is beheading journalists, stoning women to death, and committing genocide against Christians and Yazidis, will only lead to more Jihad terror against us.

    I’m sure these fine Muslims hope we never ask why Mohammedans would support such a bloody horror…

    More:

    The Government will be imputed for further radicalization locally if it continues military intervention in the middle East.
    …………………………..

    At the beginning of this statement, they were sneering at the idea that Jihadists returning to Australia from the Islamic State represented a terrorist threat.

    Yet here they are *openly threatening* Australia with Jihad terror is she dares to oppose the sanguinary horror of the Islamic State in any way.

    *This* is how emboldened Muslims have become in the West.

    • PJG says

      Sep 7, 2014 at 8:14 pm

      Indeed. They could hardly be more clear. These men are in a hurry to get what they want and they feel their need to play nice is decreasing by the day. I can hardly imagine how Israelis must view the threats to Western nations, demands that we all abandon Israel to the wolves.

      • gravenimage says

        Sep 9, 2014 at 5:59 pm

        Yes—if things continue as they are Muslims will only become increasingly brazen.

  12. Vapourking says

    Sep 7, 2014 at 6:22 pm

    Asking so called moderate Muslim leaders to help control extremists, is akin to asking the chickens to guard the fox house.

  13. fair_dinkum says

    Sep 8, 2014 at 2:11 am

    i cant read their lies any more.
    a bunch of countries that have either oil and / or billions in aid (damned pakistan springs to mind) and have done nothing for their own people. its in the interests for example, of saudi oil sheiks to keep the population in poverty and ignorance, and stick to the teachings of the book. aid and corruption means someone is getting rich and everyone else suffers. and blames the west.
    it doesnt take much. we have more than accommodated them.

    the moslem way is the old arab way. pure and simple. kill, supress, torture, sell slaves and attack us and everything we stand for..
    and it is learned straight from that bloody book.

  14. Rezali Mehil says

    Sep 8, 2014 at 4:50 am

    I think soon we will see “virtual” offices of the IS in many Western countries.
    I predict these will be on the Internet only to begin with …with Q/A …some of this has been seen on twitter.

    Next someone will provide a real name and a real person will take queries and answers from an underground office.

    Next someone will provide a real name and a real person will take queries and provide answers…selling IS passports, IS money…etc from an overground office…knowing full well that he/she/they will be arrested and imprisoned…but will want their “freedom for enterprise” tested out in court. Indeed this could be one of the returnees from Iraq …that the BBC’s favorite muslima (which was not me BTW) this morning and the MI6 officer the other day was advocating.

    What was she saying LOL …”there are only young and only wanted to help the suffering ..it was not the utopia they expected..they are not going to harm anyone…we must try to detune them…let them come back “.

    Then it moves to the EU human rights court..for procrastination…something you kuffar are very good at.

    In fact what we are seeing here is several streams merging …at the start merging drop by drop to a trickle..to a stream… then to create a small waterfall …It is like the spring trying to break free from the grip of a polluted kuffar winter….which will then do further merging until it transforms into the Niagara falls ….an open naked rush…deeper and stronger than any narcotic….the water from which will flow into the oceans of peace.

    Indeed it will be mirror of the earth itself – 7/8 of the world is water – water that will be tinged with the flavor of Islam – and it flows everywhere.

    Within 15 years – the Muslim brotherhood will be a legitimate large political party in Sweden, France, Holland and the conservative party in the UK will be begging them to form a coalition with the Muslim Brotherhood…like these boys are desperately trying to ditch the Lib Dems in favor of UKIP….

    Folk, survival is a great motivator ..and that survival will come from the Muslim Brotherhood.

    More Later….

    Rezali

    • gravenimage says

      Sep 9, 2014 at 6:03 pm

      Now the appalling Rezali Mehil is cross-posting her sneering Muslim supremacist screeds. *Bleah*.

  15. mortimer says

    Sep 8, 2014 at 6:56 am

    So jihad is not the PROBLEM! Jihad is the solution according to the mullahs:

    “We also reject government attempts to divide the Muslim community into ‘radicals’ and ‘moderates’ and to use the community for its agenda”

    In other words, all Muslims are jihadists.

  16. Rick Spencer says

    Sep 8, 2014 at 11:35 am

    “SHADY”… the name says it all!

    Contact Imam Shady Alsuleiman, ANIC Secretary – secretary@anic.org.au

    What a laugh! Perhaps I should cry! I’m sure “Shady” is a nice guys, a true expert in taqiyya!

  17. Rajivi says

    Sep 8, 2014 at 1:16 pm

    Observe the timidity of the Mullahs when they say the Govt., to change its foreign policy (reg. ME) according to their wish or else face radicalization…No sane Govt., would allow such traitors to live in their country.. They should be tried and hanged (putting in jail will cost the exchequer) for their treachery..They have come to this country with begging bowl and now wants the Govt to run according to their diktat..

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