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Australia: Slain jihadi’s family stones media at funeral

Sep 28, 2014 10:49 pm By Robert Spencer

StoningMediaAustraliaNuman Haider stabbed a police officer and a federal agent. He threatened to kill Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott. He was shot dead in the midst of his jihad attack on the police. And apparently, from their actions at the funeral, his family blames the Australian media. Perhaps we should send them some of our large coterie of pro-jihad journalists, such as Christiane Amanpour, Niraj Warikoo, Jennifer Fermino and Bob Smietana. Then they would put down their stones and show us Islam’s peaceful and tolerant side.

“Family reacts: Anger and grief boil over at mosque,” by Aleks Devic and James Dowling, Herald Sun, September 26, 2014 (thanks to Kenneth):

ANGER boiled over outside a mosque as the body of the shot teen was prepared for burial.

A man threw rocks at media waiting at the Doveton mosque after earlier being seen at Numan Haider’s family home.

The teen terror suspect’s family spoke of their devastation.

Others grieving the loss of Haider lashed out at police for shooting him.

Religious leaders told the Herald Sun Haider was expected to be buried as soon as today, after a Muslim service. More details have emerged about Haider and his family.

The 18-year-old’s two brothers are university students, doing courses in pharmacy and engineering.

Haider, who finished his VCE at Lyndale Secondary College in Dandenong, studied electrotechnology at TAFE.

A friend who visited the family’s Endeavour Hills home said they were overwhelmed by grief. “They are very, very upset and devastated,” the family friend said.

“No one knows what happened. It’s a big shock to their family, and they can’t believe what has happened.

“This family is bright. They are well educated and have good connection to the Afghan families.”

Police visited the home, as did more grieving families who came to offer their support.

There were angry scenes when a member of the Afghan community, on leaving the house, blamed police.

“They should not have shot him — he was 18,” the woman screamed. “If you (the police) can’t protect yourself, how are you going to protect the nation? Did you make mistakes when you were 18?

“If someone makes a mistake, you can’t shoot him.”…

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  1. Joan in Houston says

    Sep 28, 2014 at 10:53 pm

    Actions invite consequences.

    • Deirdre Gates says

      Sep 29, 2014 at 1:35 am

      But there is no cause and effect in Islam.

  2. Beagle says

    Sep 28, 2014 at 11:03 pm

    Yes, we all make youthful mistakes. No, it never even crossed my mind to behead people and stab cops.

    • Michael says

      Sep 28, 2014 at 11:23 pm

      Exactly. I’m glad the kid got killed. One less savage the rest of us have to deal with.

    • Ayatrollah says

      Sep 29, 2014 at 9:34 am

      I know what Happeneds if u attack cops. Bad things. He gets jannah.

  3. Truckie 117 says

    Sep 28, 2014 at 11:28 pm

    Send them all back to Afghanistan.

  4. Tommy Guns says

    Sep 28, 2014 at 11:29 pm

    Muslims, always playing the ‘blame game’. I guess, according to muslims, you should just let yourself get killed. Bunch of moronic backwards hypocrites. They think nothing of killing and beheading, but no, don’t kill them, even if they’re a threat to others. Disgusting behavior!!!

    • ben t says

      Sep 29, 2014 at 9:38 am

      Two Questions
      1. Where oh where are all the “moderate” moslems who commended the police for protecting themselves, their LIVES, from a would-be assassin and condemn the latter to hell?
      2. Where oh where are the rampaging mobs of angry non-moslems out for revenge for the murderous attack on guardians of the law?

  5. mortimer says

    Sep 28, 2014 at 11:40 pm

    Abdul Numan Haider, an 18-year-old who made threats against Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott and waved an ISIS flag at a local mall before he went to a police station…then…

    “On arrival at the station, Haider stabbed a state police officer who had tried to shake his hand, before turning on a federal police officer and stabbing him three or four times in the body and head. Haider was then fatally shot by the first officer. Both officers were rushed to hospital for surgery where they are reported to be in serious but stable condition.”

    I suggest he was seeking Islamic murderous martyrdom by taking out as many police as possible before getting shot. He wanted to be shot and killed.

    What do you think?

    • Beagle says

      Sep 29, 2014 at 1:33 am

      Logical. If he took sacralized beheading seriously he probably believed in killing and being killed in Allah’s cause being the sure path to Islamic paradise.

      As he did not kill maybe he only gets 36 horny goats for a good try? Not sure what Quran and Hadith say about that.

  6. mortimer says

    Sep 28, 2014 at 11:43 pm

    Looks as if Haider learned violence at home.

    Note: Muslims believe that killing the killer of a family member is a RELIGIOUS DUTY (that is…continuing the cycle of violence).

    But…revenge violence has nothing to do with Islam.

  7. mortimer says

    Sep 28, 2014 at 11:46 pm

    Terrorism expert Prof. Greg Barton said that Haider was one of 40 to 60 individuals who recently had their Australian passports cancelled over concerns they would join the small but prominent legion of Australians fighting with ISIS in Syria and Iraq, and suggested that this could equally have prompted the stabbing of the two police officers.

    • Pradman says

      Sep 30, 2014 at 3:24 am

      So fucking what?

      • gravenimage says

        Sep 30, 2014 at 9:29 pm

        What do you mean, “so fucking what”?

        When this Muslim was prevented from waging violent Jihad with one of the most horrifying Jihad terror groups abroad, he decided to wage Jihad right in the civilized West.

        How many more Muslims are right now poised to do just the same?

  8. Rob says

    Sep 28, 2014 at 11:58 pm

    I didn’t know suckin’ on a flat white was part of the oh so respectful Muslim burial rite.
    Jeans too – not too Western?

    • johnson says

      Sep 29, 2014 at 9:59 pm

      the Muslim burial service is a short,stark,uninspiring affair…they have nothing in their religious canon that uplifts or edifies(one of the reasons music is banned – because it shows up the emotional,spiritual and intellectual poverty of their creed),the body is ‘washed’ and quickly chanted over then posted six feet under..everything is done according to modern 7th century practice..

      • Rob says

        Sep 30, 2014 at 2:33 pm

        The leftish media at least in the UK, was outraged that Osama wasn’t accorded proper Islamic rights.
        No matter that the guy has killed 3000 people, it was still unfeeling and insensitive of the West (in this case the US) to skimp on any of the respect due to a dead Muslim.

  9. mileaway says

    Sep 28, 2014 at 11:59 pm

    Sounds like they had all the educational requirements covered for Islamic Bomb Making 101!!!

  10. Jen says

    Sep 29, 2014 at 12:01 am

    Their attitude makes me SO annoyed. Do they need to think of his age before defending themselves while in the middle of being hacked to death? Blaming police for shooting their thug son, even though the same police have been giving them courtesies like closing off the street near the funeral and providing police protection for the funeral attendees. Even when one of them turns up wearing a balaclava. Parents claiming they “don’t know” why he turned radical when they’re all reading the Qur’an.

    • johnson says

      Sep 29, 2014 at 10:39 pm

      the cops should start acting like cops (like they do toward the rest of us) and lay down the law to these buggers..like wolves,these dopes only respect the big pack leader…anything else is eaten ..alive

  11. Rebecca says

    Sep 29, 2014 at 12:20 am

    It’s impossible to reason with these people. They don’t think like us, they don’t see the world in the same shades as black and white as we do. For them it’s perfectly clear that the police officer was wrong when shooting their son in self defense. That’s how they think. In their minds they are always the victim. Always. Doesn’t matter if they’re holding the knife and stabbing someone, doesn’t matter if their a terrorist in gaza shooting rockets at people. You are not allowed to defend yourself from them, because its never their fault.
    I don’t hate muslims, but I feel disgust for this victim mentality that they have. I was raised to take responsibility for my own actions, for my own life, and I cannot have respect for these types of values. Where black for them is white, and killing is okay as long as they are the ones doing the killing.

  12. G179 says

    Sep 29, 2014 at 1:09 am

    Holding a latte in one hand, while throwing a stone with the other: This guy learned how to fit in modern society.

    • ray says

      Sep 29, 2014 at 3:43 am

      probably got that from Obama

  13. Salah says

    Sep 29, 2014 at 1:25 am

    “If someone makes a mistake, you can’t shoot him.”…

    Oh, yes we can. Self-defense is a God-given right.
    http://americasvoicenow.org/what-does-the-bible-have-to-say-about-self-defense/

    • Abdul Razaq says

      Sep 29, 2014 at 4:25 am

      attacking others and killing someone in the name of Allah is not a mistake. what do you think if another 18 kill a police man and you just say it is mistake, another kill three or four others again you will say it is mistake. why you are not ready to correct yourself that it is terrorism in the name of religion. good for you if you like it but you must go back to your country you came from and do it there, enjoy your religion and freedom back home, where you do not have freedom at all. remember! attacking or stabbing someone in order to kill him is not a mistake, it is terrorism.

      • PJG says

        Sep 29, 2014 at 8:49 pm

        I wonder: would they have thought it was a “mistake” if the boy had succeeded in kiling the policemen?

        • Petey says

          Sep 30, 2014 at 8:01 am

          Of course it would have been, he would have just misunderstood his religion, like the rest of the cavemen out there!

  14. fair_dinkum says

    Sep 29, 2014 at 2:21 am

    Heloo Numan 😉

    youd think theyd be eternally happy.. the chubby little stain previously known as numan hadain is now a martyr.
    ah well. if they wont celebrate, i’ll do it for them.

    the only mistake he made was failing to actually kill an infidel. still, the attempt qualifies him for 72 virgins.

    ive always assumed they were male virgins. that ‘paradise’ doesnt allow the entry of muslimas.

    so to the family that spawned and nurtured this recent corpse, your son is being bent over by 72 fellas each night, if my theory is correct.
    wouldnt that be justice?

    i think it has some logic at least.

  15. carpediadem says

    Sep 29, 2014 at 3:33 am

    Thanks for posting this Robert, I was not aware that the family threw stones at the media. Shades of Gaza.

    The lady who screamed is correct: Many people do make mistakes at 18. Unfortunately, not all of those mistakes are the kind you can walk away from. this instance if jihad is one of them.

    It would be nice if all potential jihadis who actually suffered from stress were directed away from mosque-based “help”. They might then get actual benefit and actual help, instead of being turned into human weapons.
    The black UK guy who killed Lee Rigby was one such person – not helped with jhis problem but weaponised. It’s tagic but inevitable with these people.

    But that’s not the Islamic way.

    • Ayatrollah says

      Sep 29, 2014 at 9:37 am

      Mosque based help……lol

  16. Jerry says

    Sep 29, 2014 at 3:34 am

    Every “mourner” supporting a dead Jihadist is a wannabe “Martyr” himself or herself.

    They should have their aspirations respected and the realisation thereof facilitated, by giving them an opportunity to scream “Allahu Akhbar” before being summarily dispatched to join their earlier departed “Martyr” lest they turn us all into Christian, Hindu, Jewish or Atheist martyrs.

  17. Pradman says

    Sep 29, 2014 at 4:31 am

    One less muslim spreading the cancer of Islam.

  18. Abdul Razaq says

    Sep 29, 2014 at 4:34 am

    attacking others and killing someone in the name of Allah is not a mistake. what do you think if another 18 kill a police man and you just say, oh it is mistake, another kill three or four others again you will say, ah again it is mistake. why you Muslims are not ready to correct yourself that it is terrorism in the name of religion. good for you if you like it but you must go back to your country you came from and do it there, enjoy your religion and freedom back home, where you do not have freedom at all. remember! attacking or stabbing someone in order to kill him is not a mistake, it is terrorism. Or what if someone say, oh, sorry police make mistake and kill a terrorist? again they will kill another and say sorry we make mistake? no it is not mistake but consequences what you have done to police. you think twice before you attacking again. Australian police, good job, protect your country and people. God bless

  19. philip zhao says

    Sep 29, 2014 at 6:18 am

    Australianistan under the Islamic Commonwealth–
    Allah Save The Queen !

  20. duh_swami says

    Sep 29, 2014 at 6:33 am

    The rock thrower in the picture is about to spill his beer.

    So teenagers make mistakes…Well after working for several years in an institution for psychotic children, I can say with certainty that a 14 year old can kill you just as dead as a 40 year old. Around here when you go to the police dept lobby, the officers talk to you from behind bullet proof glass windows.
    They understand that people, sometimes teenagers, make mistakes. Police depts have been attacked numbers of times by mistake makers. It used to be that police only wore bullet proof vests if going on a dangerous mission, now because of brazen mistake makers, they wear them daily as part of the uniform.

  21. Brazooka says

    Sep 29, 2014 at 8:05 am

    If you support Muslim immigration, then you hate your country. It’s that simple.

  22. Bonnie Loranger says

    Sep 29, 2014 at 8:36 am

    when you let trash in your country that’s what happens. Barbarian Muslims from another century.

  23. Edward Cline says

    Sep 29, 2014 at 9:25 am

    “If someone makes a mistake, you can’t shoot him.”…Why not? His age is irrelevant. Could be 18 or 48. And if his mistake was assaulting police officers wanting to behead them Islam style, then he gets shot. Tough. Get a life, woman. Or would she rather take one? In the name of Allah?

  24. ZUlu says

    Sep 29, 2014 at 9:59 am

    Radical Islamic Centre Accused of ‘Brainwashing’ Young Australians For Jihad

    According to authorities, one Noongar Aborigine from Perth and a radical Bosnia preacher brainwashed the teenager to join extremist activities. Haider, who had earlier been just another regular teenager, transformed into a terrorist apparently after attending lectures of Junaid Thorne and Harun Mehicevic. The preacher gave lectures at the Al-Furqan Islamic Centre. Haider attended Mehicevic’s lecture in Springvale. Thorne confirmed that he had met the teenager multiple times in Melbourne.
    http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/567653/20140926/radical-islamic-centre-accused-brainwash-young-australians.htm#.VCjXfktN2f0

  25. patches says

    Sep 29, 2014 at 10:40 am

    Hmmm, looks like he’s enjoying himself a pint of Guinness at the same time LOL

  26. Rebecca says

    Sep 29, 2014 at 10:43 am

    Where did that stone end up?
    Did it hit the reporter taking this picture?

  27. Arjun says

    Sep 29, 2014 at 10:47 am

    Cheers from India…one less terrorist…he got what he deserved…Australia is a safer place for my family members living there.

    • Pradman says

      Sep 30, 2014 at 3:29 am

      There are too many fucking Indians here too; no more Indians and no more barbaric muslims.

      • gravenimage says

        Sep 30, 2014 at 9:48 pm

        Pradman wrote:

        There are too many fucking Indians here too; no more Indians and no more barbaric muslims.
        ………………………….

        What moronic racism. Robert Spencer frequently works with Indians who oppose Jihad:

        “Robert Spencer introduces Mr. Arish Sahani of Indian American Intellectual Forum”

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03MrNxdyJlE

        But tools like Pradman clearly care *nothing* about this, and would rather wallow in his witless prejudice than fight JIhad. *Ugh*.

        • Pradman says

          Sep 30, 2014 at 10:09 pm

          I’m talking muslim Indians dickhead.

    • Petey says

      Sep 30, 2014 at 8:10 am

      Nevermind the Indian comment dude, Indians on the whole have adjusted well and prospered in Canada. It was a culture shock to us at first about 30 years ago, with the cultures being different and all, but on the whole Both Hindu and Sikh have adjusted nicely and have caused NO problems and are very industrious as well as honest, Hindu and Sikhs are more then welcome in Canada! However special thanx to the Mohammedans Multiculteralism is falling flat on its face!

  28. David says

    Sep 29, 2014 at 11:28 am

    Yeah the “mistake” he made was bringing a knife to a gunfight. Did he expect two armed cops to sit idly by while he attacked them? Plus other armed cops would have come out of the station, I’m surprised he got in as many knife slashes he did before he was shot. Not much of a plan really when you think about it, it was always going to be a suicide mission, stupid Muslim. By the way, I’m 99% certain the Afghani rock thrower in the photo is holding a take away coffee in his other hand, not a beer, that’s how our take away coffees look in Australia, plus you can see the straw in the middle of it. If it was a beer he might have been the one being stoned from other pious Muslims there for drinking beer! Reminds me of the Monty Python Jehovah stoning skit.

    http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&sqi=2&ved=0CCYQtwIwAQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DSYkbqzWVHZI&ei=2XkpVPTaLsHV8gWu8oHoBg&usg=AFQjCNG3GopIgNr8A6mmf2ILG-sHqaR_DQ&sig2=wVEhBMEXXgfadDthJZuuoQ

  29. Connectingdots says

    Sep 29, 2014 at 12:06 pm

    Latte Stoning follows Latte Salute!

    http://www.breitbart.com/InstaBlog/2014/09/23/Obama-s-Disrespectful-Latte-Salute-Shocks-and-Offends

  30. Blangwort says

    Sep 29, 2014 at 12:59 pm

    Songs have been written about this, by none other than Gilbert and Sullivan

    SERGEANT: When a felon’s not engaged in his employment
    POLICE: His employment
    SERGEANT: Or maturing his felonious little plans,
    POLICE: Little plans,
    SERGEANT: His capacity for innocent enjoyment
    POLICE: ‘Cent enjoyment
    SERGEANT: Is just as great as any honest man’s.
    POLICE: Honest man’s.
    SERGEANT: Our feelings we with difficulty smother
    POLICE: ‘Culty smother
    SERGEANT: When constabulary duty’s to be done.
    POLICE: To be done.
    SERGEANT: Ah, take one consideration with another,
    POLICE: With another,
    SERGEANT: A policeman’s lot is not a happy one.
    ALL: Ah, when constabulary duty’s to be done, to be done, A policeman’s lot is not a happy one, happy one.

    SERGEANT: When the enterprising burglar’s not a-burgling
    POLICE: Not a-burgling
    SERGEANT: When the cut-throat isn’t occupied in crime,
    POLICE: ‘Pied in crime,
    SERGEANT: He loves to hear the little brook a-gurgling
    POLICE: Brook a-gurgling
    SERGEANT: And listen to the merry village chime.
    POLICE: Village chime.
    SERGEANT: When the coster’s finished jumping on his mother,
    POLICE: On his mother,
    SERGEANT: He loves to lie a-basking in the sun.
    POLICE: In the sun.
    SERGEANT: Ah, take one consideration with another,
    POLICE: With another,
    SERGEANT: A policeman’s lot is not a happy one.
    ALL: Ah, when constabulary duty’s to be done, to be done, A policeman’s lot is not a happy one, happy one.

    Yep. He WAS a good boy somewhere at some time, wasn’t he?

  31. eric says

    Sep 29, 2014 at 2:58 pm

    A young man lost his life and I understand the familiy’s grief. Even community upset. This is apparently a good well educated family, not a breeding ground for radical violent Islam. I is sad for all concerned.

    • Uncle vladdi says

      Sep 29, 2014 at 5:08 pm

      Obviously they DID breed at least the one radical violent islamist, didn’t they?

      I think that qualifies. So they’re not the victims, they’re the criminal enablers.

      😉

    • Mirren10 says

      Sep 29, 2014 at 11:45 pm

      Your comment is repulsive.

      “A young man lost his life”.

      Yes, he ‘lost his life’ because he tried to *murder* two police officers. If he had succeeded, I bet you wouldn’t be on here, whining about your ‘sadness’.

      Eff off back to your mosk and whine there.

    • Rob says

      Sep 30, 2014 at 2:42 pm

      Could some tenacious public official dig out this family’s asylum application.
      I bet it is replete with instances of the family needing protection and with assurances of intended model citizenship.
      I expect the UNHCR would have chimed in about their model behaviour in their camp and that it is their support for the West as cooks, cleaners or interpreters that place them in danger if they stay in Afghanistan.
      What about a statement from the family:

      ‘We apologise to the people of Australia, that despite your kindness, hospitality, health care and education our son chose to turn against you. Our family is eternally grateful for your decision, all those years ago to welcome us and you have every right to deport us back to whence we came’.

    • voegelinian says

      Sep 30, 2014 at 6:45 pm

      Eric Holder, I presume…? 🙂

    • gravenimage says

      Sep 30, 2014 at 9:58 pm

      “eric” wrote:

      A young man lost his life and I understand the familiy’s grief. Even community upset. This is apparently a good well educated family, not a breeding ground for radical violent Islam. I is sad for all concerned.
      ………………………….

      What *utter crap*. This Jihadist didn’t “lose his life”—he was shot after having stabbed a federal agent and a police officer—after one of them tried to shake his hand.

      And this was after he had his passport canceled for trying to join ISIS to wage violent JIhad.

      And then his family and “community” stone the media and blame the police for defending themselves.

      Of course this family is a breeding ground for violent Jihad. What ham-fisted Taqiyya…

  32. Uncle Vladdi says

    Sep 29, 2014 at 4:59 pm

    I wish more jihadis would attack the presstitutes. Maybe then they’d wake up!

  33. Larry A. Singleton says

    Sep 29, 2014 at 11:01 pm

    “Numan Haider stabbed a police officer and a federal agent. He threatened to kill Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott.”

    “They should not have shot him — he was 18,” the woman screamed….. Did you make mistakes when you were 18?

    Yep; typical teenage rebellion.

  34. DIanne says

    Sep 30, 2014 at 10:33 am

    I feel sorry a young man lost his life and feel sad for the parents. But the parents should realise his religion did this to him also lack of proper guidance from the parents.
    Police did not retaliate as one Muslim lady said but rather they defended themselves.
    I hope others who are thinking of taking violent measures in the name of Islam take a deep breath and realise they are in the lucky country and don’t get shot also.
    Thoughts are with the family at their time of loss.
    Hope the police involved make a good recovery and thank you.

    • gravenimage says

      Sep 30, 2014 at 10:03 pm

      DIanne wrote:

      I feel sorry a young man lost his life and feel sad for the parents. But the parents should realise his religion did this to him also lack of proper guidance from the parents.
      ………………………….

      Dianne, Numan Haider’s family is blaming the police for daring to defend themselves against Jihad.

      It sounds as though he got all too much “guidance” from his parents…

  35. gravenimage says

    Sep 30, 2014 at 1:57 pm

    “They should not have shot him — he was 18,” the woman screamed. “If you (the police) can’t protect yourself, how are you going to protect the nation? Did you make mistakes when you were 18?

    “If someone makes a mistake, you can’t shoot him.”…
    ……………………………….

    An 18-year-old is a man. Some 18-year-olds are extremely dangerous.

    And yes, the police were protecting themselves—by shooting the Jihadist who attacked them.

    And sure—everyone makes mistakes when they are a teenager. Of course, in the civilized West, those mistakes tend to run to things like trying weed, dating the wrong guy, failing to study for that big exam until the night before—not things like stabbing federal agents, threatening to kill the prime minister, and plotting to behead innocent people…

  36. concernedcitizen014 says

    Oct 1, 2014 at 1:36 am

    Time for Muslims to rethink, reevaluate the “religion of peace” they are taught to glorify and embrace from young. Time for the Qur’ran, the Hadiths to be scrutinised under the microscope. The person who is laughing behind the scenes amidst the terror, misery, confusion, death, destruction and social unrest is Allah (satan). Sorry the “angel Gabriel” who revealed to the prophet Muhammad was not G…d but satan himself.

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