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Australian Defence Force advised to wear civvies due to jihad threats

Sep 21, 2014 6:19 pm By Robert Spencer

australiandefenceforceA victory for the Islamic State. “Australian Defence Force personnel advised to wear civvies due to terror threats,” by Julieanne Strachan, David Wroe, and Judith Ireland, Sydney Morning Herald, September 20, 2014:

Some commanding officers in the Australian Defence Force have been advising their personnel not to wear their uniforms to and from work and on public transport for safety reasons in the wake of increased terror alerts.

The move may be extended around the country at the discretion of individual officers, although it will not become official ADF policy, as it would be seen as a victory for the Islamic State (ISIL).

This comes as the Australian Federal Police asked the Abbott government to speed up the issuing of control orders, which allow police to place restrictions on people who are deemed to be a risk to public safety, in the wake of last week’s terror raids.

An ADF commanding officer in Victoria told Fairfax Media that he had advised his juniors to consider wearing civilian clothes off base for safety reasons.

“It’s not for us so much as for our families,” he said. “I think most other [officers] are probably doing that as a precaution. There is a small number of people who support ISIL but those people represent a big threat.”

The officer said that Defence had not officially recommended such steps as removing uniforms before leaving bases and barracks because it “did not want to give ISIL the recognition”.

A soldier in Western Australia has also told Fairfax Media that he has been advised not to wear his uniform off base.

The uniform directives come after security on Defence facilities was lifted on Friday from “safe base Bravo” to “safe base Charlie”. This is the first time security has been lifted to that level since the September 11, 2001, attacks in the United States.

The practical effects vary from base to base, but include things like closing some entry and exit points, increasing the numbers of guards and tightening security checks and processes.

The concerns about uniforms also follow a warning to defence personnel earlier this month to be vigilant after a widely reported incident in which an ADF member was approached by a group of men in Sydney’s CBD and told to go to the Middle East so we can “blow your f—in’ head off”.

Speaking to reporters from Brisbane on Saturday, Attorney-General George Brandis said the AFP believed there should be a “more expedited regime for obtaining control orders” in “certain, very urgent circumstances”. Senator Brandis said the government would discuss speeding up the control order process this week, as new terror laws were debated by Parliament.

The National Security Legislation Amendment Bill, which aims to modernise and boost ASIO’s powers – and has largely been approved by a bipartisan committee – is due for debate in the Senate on Tuesday. On Wednesday, the so-called “Foreign Fighters” bill, which will clamp down on Australians fighting overseas, is due to be presented in draft form to the upper house….

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  1. Marty says

    Sep 21, 2014 at 6:26 pm

    Note what is going on here. Military personnel informed they shouldn’t be in uniform in their own country. Instead, they should be encouraged to array sidearms and authorized to shoot anyone who tries to attack them.

    • mortimer says

      Sep 21, 2014 at 9:49 pm

      Marty, dream on. Soldiers are not police and we don’t want a war on our streets. The jihadists will try to take weapons away from anyone who arms themselves. Note: Major Hasan the armed jihadist, psychiatrist and traitor!

      This is an admission of the size of the problem created by bringing Muslims into Western countries! They hide and nurture the jihadists among them. We cannot tell the ‘moderate’ from the ‘militant’ jihadist. This measure protects the public from becoming collateral damage.

      • Hold Fast says

        Sep 22, 2014 at 8:19 am

        Mortimer? Is all your crap acctully code for some dhimmi mindset or are you just an Islamic plant or are you brain dead from years of liberalism?

        “. . . we don’t want a war on our streets.”
        Islam has already brought the war to our streets. I was 5 minutes away from the Pentagon on 9/11, felt the blast and saw it burning, right there on our streets.

        “The jihadists will try to take weapons away from anyone who arms themselves. Note: Major Hasan the armed jihadist, psychiatrist and traitor! ”
        Uhm, what? Are you really that clueless or just plain uneducated? How can they try to take weapons away when they’ve just received two hollow point rounds to the chest and one to the head? You are spewing pure anti-self defense pablum. Hasan didn’t disarm anybody, nobody in the personnel processing was armed and he was stopped when armed personnel appeared at the scene. Get your facts straight, but then facts never mattered to you zealot ideologue Kook Aide drinkers.

        ” We cannot tell the ‘moderate’ from the ‘militant’ jihadist.”
        True, but not because of your circular logic. Rather because there are no moderate jihadists.

        “This measure protects the public from becoming collateral damage.”
        You just keep showing your ignorance. The public are not “collateral damage.” Were the 3000 dead on 9/11 collateral damage? The public IS THE PRIMARY TARGET.

        Go away, you’re wasting bandwith and oxygen.

      • rabrooks says

        Sep 23, 2014 at 6:42 pm

        Looks like there already IS a war in the streets! Just wait to start seeing bodies.
        The mudslimes’ intend to kill any/everyone, so there is no colateral damage. They already consider all non-mudslimes as legitimate targets.
        Anyone who is armed, by any sane laws, is free to defend themselves.

  2. Beagle says

    Sep 21, 2014 at 7:05 pm

    Islam, the misunderstood peaceful religion which is so dangerous Australian troops dare not wear their uniforms _in Australia _. Nope, no cognitive dissonance in the dominant western (ideologically) position on Islam there. By all means, let’s invite millions more Muslims in so we can further celebrate diversity.

  3. Bezelel says

    Sep 21, 2014 at 7:09 pm

    I believe the Aussie troopers are growing a wee bit resentful. I wouldn’t want to be the object of their resentment and I’m hoping their leadership does the right thing by them.

  4. Jade says

    Sep 21, 2014 at 8:09 pm

    Australia has a big problem on their hands. WHEN will these countries learn that when they let these savages in they are inviting terror, death and destruction?

  5. WhatsUpDoc says

    Sep 21, 2014 at 10:43 pm

    HA ha, thats what British politicians told their solders following beheading of the British solder.

    • John says

      Sep 22, 2014 at 4:37 am

      The weirdest thing about that beheading is the fact that Lee Rigby wasn’t even in uniform.

    • paddy says

      Sep 22, 2014 at 7:41 am

      Did you enjoy posting that comment….you PRICK!

      • gravenimage says

        Sep 22, 2014 at 8:35 pm

        I don’t think WhatsUpDoc is *for* this dhimmitude, Paddy—just pointing out how absurd it is.

  6. Myxlplik says

    Sep 22, 2014 at 12:38 am

    This is a great little video, just thought I’d pass the smiles around.

    http://youtu.be/E3MLZChHP5Y

  7. Myxlplik says

    Sep 22, 2014 at 1:21 am

    OT:

    China comes down hard on Islam

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/chinas-war-on-terror-becomes-all-out-attack-on-islam-in-xinjiang/2014/09/19/5c5840a4-1aa7-4bb6-bc63-69f6bfba07e9_story.html

    • umbra says

      Sep 22, 2014 at 6:27 am

      Yeah, PRC does not fight fire with fire, she uses infernos instead. Her security forces are not shy with applying lethal force on violent individuals.

      • Ciccio says

        Sep 22, 2014 at 7:22 am

        I saw a photo of the accused in the dock. None wearing pyjamas, none had their head wrapped in old bedsheets and every one of them was clean shaven.China seems to have learned from Sadam, Assad and Mubarak, you have to keep them at your feet else they will go for your throat.

  8. No Fear says

    Sep 22, 2014 at 4:56 am

    I invite all Australian muslims to leave Islam.

    • paddy says

      Sep 22, 2014 at 7:44 am

      Oh yes, lets throw a party at my place (bring a bottle of booze and hamburgers).

  9. Wolfgang says

    Sep 22, 2014 at 7:33 am

    Also

    Prisoners riot at Goulburn Jail after crackdown on Muslim prayer meetings – 9news.com.au

    http://www.9news.com.au/national/2014/09/22/04/12/prisoners-riot-at-goulburn-jail-after-crackdowns-on-muslim-prayer-meetings

    I feel sorry for the Australians……..now the ragheads are rioting at the Prison

  10. Will says

    Sep 22, 2014 at 1:58 pm

    IMO allowing the ADF members to take their weapons(side-arms) with them might make Abdul Muhammad think twice if there is a chance he will have his head blown off. Fat chance of that: AKs firing in state forests and our soldiers cannot carry weapons in public. Still its not hard to carry a pig blood stained stiletto: a slash is scary but a throat or chest puncture is quicker and more dangerous. These Muslim heroes are only brave in mobs or in surprise and all that we would be doing is giving them immediate access to their houris.
    The ABC made a point that screwed up people are “straightened out” by Islam which changes their lives. Yes it does as it now removes all guilt they had for the sins committed upon infidels. Now they get brownie points retrospectively in “Muhammadamia”: the nut farm in the middle east.

    • Wolfgang says

      Sep 22, 2014 at 7:47 pm

      Will

      The NSW Police high ups would never ever allow the ADF carry sidearms, I wish it were so, but if flak jacket johnnie disarmed Australia, no chance the self serving political class would allow soldiers to defend themselves, I would bet the men and women in the ADF would not sit idly by if the scum ISIS followers attacked them, my money is on the ADF, I back them 1,000 percent, they (ADF ) need to eliminate with extreme prejudice any threats. I say give them the tools to do the job and they will do it, I would bet the Australian public would back them 100 percent as well.

  11. Mike Holt, CEO RestoreAustralia says

    Sep 22, 2014 at 5:17 pm

    This is disgraceful. I say it would be better to allow our ADF to go about armed at all times and wear our uniform with pride…..not because I wish to put them in harms way, but bowing down to bullies is a slippery path to tread. We must never show any fear of these scumbag terrorists. They are criminals. Our police have already done a great job arresting some of them….but now it is up to our lawmakers in Canberra to pass laws outlawing the koran and islam and expel it from our nation.

    It is incompatible with our way of life and our laws. It’s time to BAN ISLAM! I know a lot of Australians agree, because these stickers are appearing all over Australia!
    http://islam4infidels.com/ban-islam-stickers/

  12. gravenimage says

    Sep 22, 2014 at 10:21 pm

    Australian Defence Force advised to wear civvies due to jihad threats
    ………………………………..

    Disgusting dhimmitude. We are ceding our own streets to these Muslim thugs.

  13. Mulder says

    Sep 25, 2014 at 5:39 pm

    Same thing here in Holland since yesterday….

    • Mulder says

      Sep 25, 2014 at 6:02 pm

      http://nos.nl/artikel/702463-militairen-niet-in-uniform-reizen.html

  14. Raven says

    Sep 25, 2014 at 6:05 pm

    And our pollies keep saying: ‘it’s not about religion’, what the hell is it about then? I am also a bit concerned that young boys and girls in cadets may become a target for the ‘all our snackbar’ mob.

    We have a real problem with this lack of connection in the mind of politicians with jihad and islam. They are one and the same.

  15. Wolfgang says

    Sep 25, 2014 at 10:59 pm

    More PC correctness …….which is truth ?……..

    UPDATE: Assault allegations dropped in navy officer attack claim – 9news.com.au

    http://www.9news.com.au/national/2014/09/25/16/42/adf-officer-says-he-was-threatened-and-assaulted-by-two-men-in-sydney

    men of middle eastern appearance ( read Lebanese Muslims )………

  16. gravenimage says

    Sep 25, 2014 at 11:24 pm

    And so it begins:

    “Uniformed Australian Defence Force member allegedly attacked by men of middle eastern appearance in western Sydney”

    http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/uniformed-australian-defence-force-member-allegedly-attacked-by-men-of-middle-eastern-appearance-in-western-sydney/story-fni0cx12-1227070513974

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