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FBI: Motive for Oklahoma beheading not yet determined

Sep 27, 2014 6:30 pm By Robert Spencer

Jah'KeemYisraelreading“When you meet the unbelievers, strike the necks…” (Qur’an 47:4) Nah, that can’t be it. It’s a Religion of Peace! Meanwhile, mosque spokesman Saad Mohammed “said Nolen had attended services where sermons were delivered condemning such attacks.” I hope that even the clueless, politically correct and willfully ignorant FBI won’t just take his word for it, as a former member of the mosque tells a very different story, of a place where hatred of America and Israel and the need for a caliphate were preached.

Meanwhile, “Police: Man accused in Oklahoma beheading is awake,” by Tim Talley, Associated Press, September 27, 2014 (thanks to Kenneth):

OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) — A man who was shot after he beheaded one woman and attacked another at an Oklahoma food processing plant from which he had just been fired has regained consciousness and has been interviewed by detectives, police said Saturday.

Alton Nolen, 30, remains hospitalized in stable condition after Thursday’s attack at the Vaughan Foods plant in the Oklahoma City suburb of Moore, Police Sgt. Jeremy Lewis said. He said that Nolen will be charged with first-degree murder and assault and battery with a deadly weapon and that he may also face federal charges.

“We’ve already interviewed him, and charges will be filed on Monday,” Lewis said.

Meanwhile, a spokesman for an Oklahoma City Islamic group said Saturday that Nolen was a frequent worshipper at a mosque the group maintains and that he remembers the suspect as “a little weird.”

“He was a nice, quiet, low-key guy,” said Saad Mohammed, director of information for the Islamic Society of Greater Oklahoma City. “He acted a little odd,” Mohammed said, though he added that Nolen’s behavior never raised any “red flags.”

Mohammed said Nolen began worshipping at one of the group’s mosques in May.

Lewis said Nolen was fired right before the attack, and that he then drove from the building that houses the company’s human resources department to its main distribution center.

Once inside, he attacked 54-year-old Colleen Hufford with a knife in the center’s administrative office area, eventually severing her head, according to police. Nolen then repeatedly stabbed 43-year-old Traci Johnson before Mark Vaughan, a reserve sheriff’s deputy and the company’s chief operating officer, shot him, police said.

Johnson survived the attack and is also conscious, Lewis said, adding that she is listed in stable condition.

“She is talking. We have interviewed her,” Lewis said.

Lewis said police learned Nolen was fired for “numerous reasons” involving “personnel issues,” but that he didn’t know the specifics.

Police asked the FBI to help investigate Nolen after co-workers told investigators he had recently started trying to convert several employees to Islam. He said police asked the FBI to look into Lewis’ background because of the nature of the attack, which followed a series of high-profile videotaped beheadings by Islamic State militants.

Mohammed said Nolen had attended services where sermons were delivered condemning such attacks.

“In no way, shape or form did he represent Islam in this foolish act,” Mohammed said.

In a statement, FBI Special Agent in Charge James E. Finch said the motive for the attack had not been determined, but that there is no reason to believe there was a threat to anyone else.

“We don’t have any reason to believe there is any danger to the area,” Lewis said.

According to Oklahoma Department of Corrections records, Nolen served time in prison and is on probation for assault and battery of a police officer. He also was convicted of cocaine possession with the intent to distribute in 2011.

The records show that Nolen has what appear to be religious tattoos, including one referencing Jesus and one in Arabic that means “peace be with you.”

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  1. Beagle says

    Sep 27, 2014 at 6:36 pm

    I can hear the special agent now, “OK, so other than religion and jihad which we can’t look at according to our 2011 directive, which was recently continued, what made you do it?” “How much money do you have in the bank?” “Has anyone from the TEA Party ever made a racist remark to you?”

    • NoMoreRINOs says

      Sep 28, 2014 at 8:44 am

      Who was it who said, “If I had a son, he would look like Alton Nolen?”

      • john spielman says

        Sep 28, 2014 at 10:29 am

        the same person who said; ” the future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of islam” the Obamanation who sits in the Oval Office

        • Joan in Houston says

          Sep 28, 2014 at 12:22 pm

          The truth is not slander.

    • Shane says

      Sep 28, 2014 at 9:33 am

      What we need is for the FBI to send in undercover agents at mosques that produce jihad murderers and see what they are really teaching. Any Muslim cleric teaching jihad against the USA should be arrrested.

  2. Ayatrollah says

    Sep 27, 2014 at 6:54 pm

    The pious brother will be able to tell us why he did this.

    He will be dismissed as crazy.

    I’m sure he does have some problems, in addition to Islam.

    • Jay Boo says

      Sep 27, 2014 at 9:32 pm

      He is a Koran following vestibule villain.
      The cockroach of Medina emerged from a dark cave and spawned a brood creepy crawly followers.

  3. Bosch Fawstin says

    Sep 27, 2014 at 6:57 pm

    I just tweeted this in response to this story:

    The FBI (Federal Bureau of Islamization) says that the motive of the Muslim in the Oklahoma beheading is not yet determined #ISLAMISLAMISLAM

  4. Alarmed Pig Farmer says

    Sep 27, 2014 at 7:10 pm

    “In no way, shape or form did he represent Islam in this foolish act,” Mohammed said (Saad Mohammed, spokesman for the Islamic Society of Greater Oklahoma City).

    It is such a sad commentary on Islam these days that Saad apparently hasn’t read the Holy Ko-Ran and the Ha-Deaths; the nouveau Moslem beheaders acted in full compliance with the doctrine from those two scriptures.

    FBI Special Agent in Charge James E. Finch said the motive for the attack had not been determined, but that there is no reason to believe there was a threat to anyone else.

    Not a threat to anyone else? Hey, Mr. Special, there are hundreds of millions of Infidels in the good ol’ U.S. of A. So drop that Rubric’s Cube you know how to play and solve the elementary mystery of what motivated the beheader. Either that or resign from the federal gubmint and please shut the hell up.

  5. Champ says

    Sep 27, 2014 at 7:28 pm

    What does the FBI do:

    The Federal Bureau of Investigation is a law enforcement and domestic intelligence agency charged with protecting and defending the United States against terrorist and foreign intelligence threats; upholding and enforcing the criminal laws of the United States; and providing leadership and criminal justice services to …

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    In defending the US against terrorist threats, then reading the quran, and other islamic texts, should be essential reading material for the FBI–since the majority of terrorists are muslim, and they would have a clear understanding as to his “motive” …

    “When you meet the unbelievers, strike the necks…” (Qur’an 47:4)

    • Jay Boo says

      Sep 28, 2014 at 3:06 pm

      If Alton Nolen gets the death penalty let his executioner be a woman.
      That will shut up his fellow Muslims talk about 72 virgins.

  6. Mirren10 says

    Sep 27, 2014 at 7:34 pm

    “In no way, shape or form did he represent Islam in this foolish act,” Mohammed said.”

    Well, **that’s** a nice, bland description of a vicious, bloody **murder**.

    Of course, it **was** ‘foolish’, it’s woken up the kufr a bit more …

    God, how I **despise** mohammedans, and **hate** their vile religion.

    • Wakingwest says

      Sep 27, 2014 at 11:34 pm

      ” foolish act,” Mohammed said…oops, a bit of a slip there. Its only a “foolish” act because he understands, as obama similarly does , that it creates bad PR for islam and thereby slows its inevitable growth and its permanent inexorable establishment for the entirety of America’s future. Despicably heinous murder yes, foolish NO!

    • SteveInIL says

      Sep 28, 2014 at 2:32 pm

      I agree with Mirren10 and Wakingwest. I was also troubled with the characterization of this as “a foolish act.” To me, calling it foolish doesn’t condemn the murderer, but rather that the killer made a mistake to use a method of revenge that was inappropriate. Perhaps killing by setting off a bomb in the facility would have been more appropriate, especially if it was untraceable. It begs the question of what type of revenge would have been acceptable?

  7. medina says

    Sep 27, 2014 at 7:35 pm

    Imagine the “hateful things” which cannot be posted on facebook, and take a look at this jihadist’s page. The FBI knew damned well what this guy was capable of, as well as hundreds more just like him. They are all hoping the pot won’t boil over. If the NSA is doing half the digging they are credited for, why weren’t we protected from this piece of trash and the Tsarnaev devils?

  8. Michael Copeland says

    Sep 27, 2014 at 7:38 pm

    When Mohammed himself beheaded the 600 or more unarmed prisoners did he in any “way, shape or form … represent Islam in this foolish act”? Or perhaps he was a troubled individual who heard voices, and the people said “Indeed, he is mad” (Koran 68:51).

  9. wildjew says

    Sep 27, 2014 at 7:47 pm

    I watched a well-known and respected counter jihadist last night on Fox News, talk about the close relationship he has with the FBI. I wonder about the FBI and those counter jihadists who they take into their confidence.

  10. Bezelel says

    Sep 27, 2014 at 7:52 pm

    Since murdering an innocent and defenseless woman was not enough for him, he had to add beheading to it. That actually takes some deliberate effort. There is no way that he did that without islamic motivation. No way. Colleen Hufford must have some people grieving over this. How cruel this is to them to hear all this denial over their loss. Insult to injury is not justice. America deserves better than that.

  11. john spielman says

    Sep 27, 2014 at 7:55 pm

    the deeper one gets into islam the closer one gets to the god of islam,( known to nonmulsims as Satan). Eventually the spirit of islam- Satan takes over the person’s soul an leads him into these vile acts of evil

  12. rubiconcrest says

    Sep 27, 2014 at 7:56 pm

    The photo does not appear to be a recent photo so the AP is changing his image. Why not use a Facebook photo that shows him with a beard and in Islamic dress?

    • Tradewinds says

      Sep 27, 2014 at 8:32 pm

      If they could find a photo of him as a smiling 10 year old that’s what they’d use. The same kind of Trayvon Martin deal – the smiling youngster, not the young man thug.

  13. CraigcFisher says

    Sep 27, 2014 at 8:10 pm

    Alton Nolen received Islamic tatoos in prison before his release in March of 2013. Every news article says a recent convert. If he converted in prison is this attack the result of our prison system converting prisoners to Islam?

    • guide inside says

      Sep 28, 2014 at 4:15 am

      Our prisons are breeding-training grounds for this. Most Muslims are black and already hating the USA with the added satanic injection of racism. For the most part, the prisons look the other way and let them do what they want as they are focused on gang members without realizing the most dangerous gang goes under the radar as directed by our government.

      • dumbledoresarmy says

        Sep 28, 2014 at 6:51 am

        The Allah Gang.

        The Mohammedan Mob.

        It gets away with so much because it plays the goodcop/badcop dissociation / plausible-deniability game to perfection, at every level, from the individual right on up to the international.

        Straight after some horrific act of violence by a brutal Mohammedan thug like this, out trot the sweet lil gals with hijabs on, deceptively mimicking the nun’s wimple, with big doe eyes, so sweeet they make your teeth ache, butter wouldn’t melt in their mouths; or some slick white-bearded imam pretending to be Father christmas, all plump and cheerful; and they are all so smooth and nice, and they claim to be shocked! shocked! and they insist that Islam had nothingtodowithitatall, oh noes!, and then they complain of their feelings being hurt by mean ole Islamophobes looking funny at them, and they lecture us about how we mustn’t tar all Muslims with the same brush (but they usually manage to insinuate that somehow it’s all our fault).

        Nasty and nice in whipsaw alternation, to mess with our minds; *exactly* as any expert Abuser does with his bewildered victim.

      • Mirren10 says

        Sep 28, 2014 at 3:11 pm

        ”Most Muslims are black … ”

        I take it you mean in the US ? No, they’re not.

        http://www.people-press.org/2011/08/30/section-1-a-demographic-portrait-of-muslim-americans/

  14. Angemon says

    Sep 27, 2014 at 8:20 pm

    In a statement, FBI Special Agent in Charge James E. Finch said the motive for the attack had not been determined

    Well, why don’t FBI agents open their textbooks and read pages 56 to 193? Oh yeah, those nice people from the Obama administration came in, ripped them out, used them as toilet paper, pissed on them, covered them with gasoline, set them on fire, laughed and said “no more talk about jihad if you like your kneecaps, capisci?”

  15. Tradewinds says

    Sep 27, 2014 at 8:30 pm

    The FBI is a huge disappointment. I wonder what Efrem Zimbalist Jr would say?

  16. Truth says

    Sep 27, 2014 at 8:45 pm

    any dope with access to Facebook can see his ties to ISIS ~ https://www.facebook.com/alton.threadgill

  17. Jay Boo says

    Sep 27, 2014 at 9:20 pm

    Lee Rigby’s killers were tried and convicted in less than a year.
    An eight year old boy was murdered in Boston along with three others and the Obama admin only cares about Koran’s being burned and covering up for Islam as if their lives have no value going into year two.
    It is only a matter of time before we have an Anders situation out of frustration at the lies and cover up.
    The lives of the people murdered in Boston matters despite efforts to move on.
    It is not over.
    The battle is not over.

  18. Jay Boo says

    Sep 27, 2014 at 9:22 pm

    If it gets out and publicized that he is a Muslim acting in the name of Islam, we can expect lengthy delays before he goes to trial.

  19. CrustyB says

    Sep 27, 2014 at 10:50 pm

    Didn’t Muhammad order at least 600 Jewish prisoners to be beheaded? Where do people think Muslims got the idea from? From their filthy “prophet,” that’s where.

    • mortimer says

      Sep 28, 2014 at 8:31 am

      Koran 47:4 (strike their necks) has NOTHING to do with Islam.

  20. Wellington says

    Sep 27, 2014 at 10:55 pm

    The games continue.

  21. Dave says

    Sep 27, 2014 at 11:42 pm

    The Islamic magic trick is for ISIS to get chased back home and given a new uniform under Turkey who will be the new regional peacekeeper (Levant leader-caliphate Mahdi Antichrist).

  22. Alice says

    Sep 27, 2014 at 11:49 pm

    The FBI (and CIA) used to be so smart.
    They must have taken pills to wipe their intelligence.

    • Tradewinds says

      Sep 28, 2014 at 7:51 am

      Alice – about Islam, Obama would insist on it.

    • mortimer says

      Sep 28, 2014 at 8:15 am

      Don’t count on the FBI being naive. They probably know a lot about jihad and read Robert Spencer’s books, but they are not able to say so because Obama is chained to Saudi jihad-deniers.

      This is a frustrating and absurd situation caused by the most blockheaded political correctness. “Political correctness” is a Marxist technique of controlling thought and what information the public receives.

  23. Dave says

    Sep 27, 2014 at 11:50 pm

    The Islamic magic trick is for ISIS to get chased back home and given a new uniforms under Turkey who will be the new regional peacekeeper (Levant leader-caliphate Mahdi Antichrist). Get ready Jesus is coming back and he will execute judgment on the wicked.

  24. Alice says

    Sep 27, 2014 at 11:53 pm

    “He was a nice, quiet, low-key guy,” said Saad Mohammed, director of information for the Islamic Society of Greater Oklahoma City. “He acted a little odd,” Mohammed said, though he added that Nolen’s behavior never raised any “red flags.”

    Of course not, considering the context.

    • dumbledoresarmy says

      Sep 28, 2014 at 6:44 am

      They’re *always* “nice” and “quiet”.

      Always.

      • joan in Houston says

        Sep 28, 2014 at 12:29 pm

        You are so very correct!

      • Joan in Houston says

        Sep 28, 2014 at 1:46 pm

        Dumbledoresarmy,

        I do wish that more and more and more solid citizens would realize the truth of what you say. History is full of so many troublemakers fitting your description.

  25. citycat says

    Sep 28, 2014 at 12:27 am

    He’s a handy nutter for the imams, keep the infidel’s attention at bay while we breed enough to take over.

  26. Transmaster says

    Sep 28, 2014 at 1:07 am

    Now we have to go through a crap trial, with lawyers on the government dole making every excuse, blame everything, and everybody for what this Islamic murderer. It is going to be a travesty.
    ]

  27. MaryA says

    Sep 28, 2014 at 1:30 am

    Hasn’t anyone posted this barbarian’s Facebook page yet? I have yet to see it…so I googled the local newspaper in Moore, Oklahoma..and they had it posted and I copied it.
    The connections that he has makes this MORE than ‘workplace violence’…….

    https://www.facebook.com/alton.threadgill

    The images, photos and such..are incriminating. This was jihad / islam !!!

  28. philip zhao says

    Sep 28, 2014 at 5:06 am

    FBI==Federal Bureau of Islam

    • Tradewinds says

      Sep 28, 2014 at 2:56 pm

      That’s a good one. I hate to say it – but it’s true.

  29. duh_swami says

    Sep 28, 2014 at 5:44 am

    We may never know why he did it, even though we know why he did it. The job of the clever is to keep what you already know hidden from you. They do this by word trickery or word magick. The reason the clever do that, is because their tricks work…The way to get over being tricked, is to get over being tricked…JW people have done that with Islam, but the clever never stop being clever, so this is no time to take a rest.

  30. Jen says

    Sep 28, 2014 at 6:20 am

    MCB, UK’s largest Muslim organisation says although polls show widespread public support for air strikes, the sentiments are not shared by British Muslims. Organisation does straw poll of 500 Muslims asking whether they would be in favour of airstrikes, only three put their hand up. Government’s counter terrorism strategy accused of “alienating” young Muslims and “pushing” them towards radical groups http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/27/terror-experts-fear-uk-action-from-isis-fanboys

  31. mortimer says

    Sep 28, 2014 at 8:00 am

    The jihad denial of Obama and his minions is pitiful and obnoxious.

    Jihad is the goal, jihad is the reason, terrorizing the kafirs is what all Muslims want or they are not imitating Mohammed.

  32. eib says

    Sep 28, 2014 at 9:09 am

    One motive, one word, islam, islam, and islam.

  33. DiMu says

    Sep 28, 2014 at 9:14 am

    Avoidance and denial is what America prefers. That’s why they voted for Obama twice!

    Try talking about Islamic jihad at a social gathering. People react as though you are spitting in their wine. So until there is enough people who think like us, we’re doomed.

  34. scott allen says

    Sep 28, 2014 at 11:22 am

    The brilliance of Islam, in a sick way, is that now that these incidents are becoming more mainstream, the average citizen will refrain from firing or pissing off Muslims for fear of getting their head sliced off. This, of course, will only give them more influence and slowly we go down….

    I guess the best strategy is to not hire them in the first place.

    It’s a tricky problem that Muslims will not recognize, that their violent ideology ultimately leads to their isolation.

  35. Tamara says

    Sep 28, 2014 at 3:21 pm

    Just a run of the mill workplace beheading by a recent convert to Islam who had pictures of ISIS fighters on his facebook account and referred to them as his brothers and sisters. Just a coincidence. Nothing to do with Islam, of-course. *rolls eyes*

  36. unbeliever1 says

    Sep 28, 2014 at 4:54 pm

    Some interesting observations:

    http://www.ijreview.com/2014/09/181797-8-chilling-facts-oklahoma-beheading-suspects-alleged-facebook-page-reveal-true-motives/

  37. zulu says

    Sep 28, 2014 at 5:02 pm

    Fired Muslim convert store-worker who beheaded female colleague after losing his job was ‘shouting Islamic phrases’ as he carried out his bloody rampage

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2771940/Fired-Muslim-convert-store-worker-beheaded-female-colleague-lost-job-argument-stoning-women.html#ixzz3Ee8mUrPd
    Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

  38. GP says

    Sep 28, 2014 at 5:17 pm

    The motive for this horrific incident of workplace violence may never be known, especially if Eric Holder has anything to do with it. If IS LAM has nothing to do with ISIL or ISIS, then it certainly has nothing to do with the muslim terrorist and his murderous slaughtering rampage in OK.

  39. roger says

    Sep 29, 2014 at 7:54 am

    Breaking news.
    The FBI say they have finally found the motive for the Oklahoma city beheading

    After a thorough and exhaustive investigation of all factors, they found that

    Nolan was “upset.”

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