Faisal Albagdadi and Ahmed Hindi started the brawl after they walked into the bar already drunk. Drinking alcohol is, of course, forbidden in Islam, and so it may be surmised that Albagdadi and Hindi are not particularly devout. But when Albagdadi threatened to “kidnap an American and behead him, once he’s released from jail,” he was falling back on deeply ingrained cultural and religious touchstones: “when you meet the unbelievers, strike at the necks” (Qur’an 47:4). People start bar fights all the time, and threaten to kill people all the time — but when one brings in beheading, one reveals an Islamic supremacist outlook or upbringing.
“2 arrested after starting bar fight, making threats, Volusia cops say,” by Loren Korn, ClickOrlando.com, August 28, 2014 (thanks to Pamela Geller):
Two men are facing charges after Volusia County deputies said they started a fight at a bar Wednesday night.
Staff at the Jus’ Beachy Bar on Ocean Shore Boulevard claimed they refused to serve alcohol to 54-year-old Faisal Albagdadi and 30-year-old Ahmed Hindi after they walked into the bar already drunk.
“I need cops at Jus’ Beachy Pecker’s Pub immediately. I got a huge fight going. I mean they’re tearing (expletive) up,” the caller told 911 dispatchers. “We wouldn’t even serve him when he came in, he was so drunk.”
Deputies said that’s when the men got angry and attacked the customers.
“They’re using chairs and everything else,” the caller told dispatchers.
Deputies said the men smashed six bar stools, threw several glasses that cut one woman in the eye and beat up a couple of men. At one point, the fight got so out of control, the dispatcher couldn’t get a hold of the caller.
The men took off before deputies arrived, but the caller was able to get their tag number and the description of their car. Ormond Beach police then quickly tracked down the car and arrested the men.
The arrest report showed that not only did Hindi deny initiating the bar fight, deputies said Albagdadi was uncooperative and threatened to “kidnap an American and behead him, once he’s released from jail.”
Both men face criminal mischief and battery charges. The other customers were not seriously injured. However, the men allegedly caused more than $1,200 in damage.
Albagdadi was previously arrested on Aug. 23 for drunk driving charges.
wolfgang says
these creatures should be packed off on plane to whence they came from along with their family, that is after they serve a long stretch in the slammer or better yet a good US heat packing citizen show them good ol fashioned frontier justice Florida style , I am sure they would make a great snack for the ‘ gators or Burmese Pythons in the glades….mind you I feel sorry for the ‘gators they would no doubt get ingestion.
Oliver says
I agree with you-but would also throw their families–and extended families -into the Glades for the gators (NOT THE FOOTBALL TEAM, NOR ANYTHIGN CONNECTED TO UF) to eat. Might feed (if get enough of these slime) a family of gators for a week or two or more.
Enhance their diet.
Jay Boo says
Don’t want to feed those alligators during Ramadan though.
Muslims get very angry when they find out other creatures are snacking during their Holy month.
Undaunted says
These creatures need to have the shit kicked out of ’em every single time they misbehave. The bar customers got what they had comin’ just for standing there and not emptying a can of whoop-ass on these clowns. We cannot count on the cops to show up, like the cavalry, and save the day.
PRCS says
It does seem odd that two very drunk guys could wreck so much damage, and beat up two customers, without intervention (whoop ass) by the club’s management and patrons.
And, as they were SO drunk, their two part escape (by foot and car) seems a little odd, too.
Shane says
If these guys are immigrants, then they should be deported. Once a Muslim immigrant starts talking about jihad, or cutting off the heads of Americans, they have proven that they don’t belong in our country.
Jay Boo says
It might still be illegal to behead infidels in Florida
anti-sharia law in Florida could make beheading a serious offence.
http://www.bizpacreview.com/2014/03/20/florida-house-subcommittee-approves-so-called-anti-sharia-bill-107359
wolfgang says
wonder if the cops will take it seriously or some CAIR funded Attorney will get them off ?
Shane says
American Laws for American Courts (ALAC)
ACT! for America has played a key role in getting ALAC (American Laws for American Courts) passed in Tennessee, Arizona, Kansas, Oklahoma, and North Carolina. ALAC prohibits state judges from applying foreign law, which can include Sharia law, when doing so infringes on constitutional rights.
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http://www.actforamerica.org/index.php/component/content/article/2884#10
Saleem Smith says
Beheading the infidels that refuse to Islam submit to Islam?
Another “purely koranic” dictate:
047.004 “So when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them, then make (them) prisoners, and afterwards either set them free as a favor or let them ransom (themselves) until the war terminates. That (shall be so); and if Allah had pleased He would certainly have exacted what is due from them, but that He may try some of you by means of others; and (as for) those who are slain in the way of Allah, He will by no means allow their deeds to perish.”
Vapourking says
Completely off topic just after some info on the terminology used in US politics.
I’m in Australia here we have 2 major political parties Labour and Liberal and a host of smaller parties.
Labour is more of a socialist party what we call left wing, while the Liberal government which is currently in power is more conservative or what we call centre right wing government.
Can someone briefly explain the Democrats and Republicans, is it similar set up in the US. Like for example Liberal governments are traditionally fiscally tight, while our Labour Party when in power tends to spend like drunken sailors, commission expensive pointless studies into subjects my cat could give them the answer too, and generally leave the country in a mess before getting voted out.
Oliver says
Your Labour Party is like the Democrats here.
Your Liberal party is like SOME, POSSIBLY MANY Republicans.
Yes, we also do (includign Republicans and conservatives) order some dumb studies.
One, done under a Republicna Adminisrtration )as best I recall) –how does flautulence (?–farts in simple English) FROM COWS affect the envirement. (odor not relevant; meaning gasses passed into the atmosphere).
Hope that somewhat answers your question
eric says
You are correct. You are way off topic. Try google.
Angemon says
Maybe they told themselves they were only drinking and getting drunk to lull the kuffar into complacency – dururah allows for exceptions and cancels obligation. Or maybe they are hoping to cleanse their sins through jihad. Maybe they weren’t particularly devout or maybe they were devout enough to know the loopholes.
Mirren10 says
Me, I think they’re just typical hypocritical mohammedans.
A friend of my husband’s worked as a taxi driver for a while, for a taxi company that employed mostly mohammedans. He told us the majority of them drank lager like fishes.
duh_swami says
Who was in that bar, a bunch of wimps? Those guys look rugged, but are probably not more than 5’4/5″ tall.
I don’t go to bars, but when I did I only went to two. One had a 5th degree black belt (He’s now a 9th degree grand master) karate bartender and about half the customers where his students of various ranks, myself included, because at the time, I was very rank. No invaders would last more than a few seconds. The other was a bad azz biker bar where, I was breaking in as a bar tender, all the customers were bad azzes in their own right, and always looked forward to upstarts who want to fight…Well those were the good old days when no one had ever heard of Islam and jihad. Many things have changed except the karate guys can still kick azz and so can the bad azz bikers…
j says
doesn’t speak highly when karate masters are in a bar getting drunk all the time. of course, dumb down bikers and their bad ass image also have ties to the demonic. both drinking “spirits” in a bar, those same spirits that are involved with all of this jihad bullshit. muslims are possessed with spirits, well this will be an interesting show down, one side of spirits against another, haaha what a joke you are all lost.
somehistory says
Can’t answer as to *why* the patrons and staff couldn’t keep these guys from doing what they did, but some possibilities are, they were *mean drunks* and stronger under the influence than one might expect. Or, the place was filled with tourists…it is still summer…and most were older, or women, etc. There are a lot of places to eat and drink along that area of Florida…maybe there were few patrons on a week night. Or maybe they didn’t want to get arrested for being part of the brawl.
Had it happened a few weeks from now…during Octoberfest, when Ormond, Daytona and surrounding areas are swarming with bikers, it might have been different.
Too bad they didn’t get lost in the woods in a county nearby and the wild hogs could have them. Or a bear. Or the suggested alligators.
In any case, those advocating the beheading of others are growing bolder in their speech and speech can be, and often is, followed by actions.