Same hymn, different choirboy. Apparently cutting throats is not “representative of Islam,” and anyone who thinks that “when you meet the unbelievers, strike the necks” means “when you meet the unbelievers, strike the necks” (Qur’an 47:4) is just a greasy Islamophobe.
“World leaders vow to help Iraq fight Islamic State using ‘all means,'” by Kim Willsher, Los Angeles Times, September 15, 2014:
World leaders pledged Monday at a crisis summit to help Iraq fight Islamic State militants using “all means possible,” including military action.
The emergency conference in Paris — attended by 26 countries including key players in the region such as Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Lebanon and the United Arab Emirates — was a positive response to President Obama’s attempts to create a global alliance against the extremist group.
Volunteer U.S. service members prepare one of several pallets of food and water before it is loaded onto an aircraft at a location in Southwest Asia on Aug. 11. The pallets are being airdropped to displaced Iraqis in the vicinity of Mt. Sinjar.
It came as France announced that it had sent Rafale fighter jets on reconnaissance missions over Iraq and that it was prepared to join the United States in bombing Islamic State positions.
However, summit participants made no mention of Syria, where the militant group controls large areas. Iran, Syria’s main ally in the region – was absent; it was not invited to the conference by the French hosts.
Secretary of State John F. Kerry attended after a whirlwind tour of the Middle East to drum up support for the U.S. administration’s proposals.
The summit came two days after Islamic State released a video showing the beheading of British aid worker David Haines, the third western hostage slain by the group. It was similar to previous videos showing the killings of American journalists James Foley and Steven Sotloff.
Opening the meeting, French President Francois Hollande said the international threat posed by the militants required a global response.
He urged western and Arab countries to engage “clearly, loyally and strongly at the side of the Iraqi authorities.” There was, he said, “no time to lose” in dealing with the threat. “Iraq’s combat against terrorism is also ours,” he said.
In a joint statement, the countries present, joined by representatives from the Arab League, the European Union and the United Nations, “highlighted the urgent need to remove Daesh from the regions in which it has established itself in Iraq.”
“Daesh” is a colloquial designation for Islamic State based on its Arabic name.
It’s not “colloquial.” It’s an acronym.
The statement added: “To that end, they committed to supporting the new Iraqi government in its fight against Daesh, by any means necessary, including appropriate military assistance.”
The Paris conference was aimed at defining the roles each state would play in combating Islamic State. However, French officials warned journalists that not all the decisions would be made public, and there were few specific announcements.
A separate summit will be held in Bahrain to examine ways of cutting off funding and the flow of fighters to the group, but no date was announced.
Speaking after Monday’s meeting, French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius said Islamic State was not “a state or representative of Islam.” Nor, he added, were what he called its “throat-cutters.”
“It’s a movement so dangerous that all those here today consider it necessary not just to make it retreat, but to make it disappear altogether,” Fabius said….
Neil Jennison says
It is nice to be reassured that Islam doesn’t tell its believers to chop people’s heads off. Really, I wonder where ISIS get these strange ideas from?
Still, now we know that, there is no need whatsoever for the French people to worry as their Muslim population climbs inexorably from the 10% it is now.
Heads will remain firmly attached and Sharia Law will never happen.
Mirren10 says
Hi, Neil; apropos of the Scottish referendum;
Yes, at the moment it looks as if it’s going to be a Yes vote, although a ‘damn close run thing’, to quote Wellington’s namesake.
I certainly agree with your comment about the apprehension many in the Highlands have towards a government run from Edinburgh/Glasgow, as many Highlanders loathe the Lowlanders, and vice versa.
As for Shetland, I believe they have stated that if Scotland votes Yes, they will break away and form themselves into ‘United Shetland’, or something similar.
As of the time I’m posting, not all of the votes have yet been counted, so, it still might be No, by a hairsbreadth. Wha hae !
Angemon says
Sounds totally legit and in no way a possible future cop-out…
Champ says
French Foreign Minister: Islamic State not “a state or representative of Islam” — nor are its “throat-cutters”
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Why do world leaders keep stating The obama Lie: that IS does not represent islam?
I can only surmise that it’s because they need military involvement from these predominantly muslim countries (the ones listed) to conquer IS. So they attempt to smooth waters by perpetuating the obama lie.
Wolfgang says
Champ, Wellington, Jay Boo etc…….
I can give you a succinct answer why the leaders of the west don’t see Islam as a threat to the west, essentially the west represents Christendom or if you will Christian concepts of the foundational ten commandments, so lets take a further step back shall we ?, I will put this in a biblical perspective without being ” preachy ” [ my apologies if this appears thus] .
The bible itself describes this world as being ruled by the prince of the air ( Satan )
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John 12:31
“Now is the time for judgment on this world; now the prince of this world will be driven out. ”
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Ephesians 6:12
“For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. ”
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Ephesians 2.2
” And you were dead in your trespasses and sins, in which you formerly walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, of the spirit that is now working in the sons of disobedience.
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There are others, but you get the idea, so lets step back a bit further, bear with me a bit, the world leaders being not logical in seeing Islam as a serious threat does not seem correct does it ? except if you look at this another way, they have a spiritual blindness over them, yes they think and yes they are advised by advisers, but if the bible is indeed correct the bible itself says that ” the sons of disobedience choose to go their own way, then I suggest the leaders are reaping what their own choices are ! , remember if they or us choose NOT to follow Gods ways [ notice that you do NOT need to be a believer, but you DO need to acknowledge God YWEH of the bible is head of a just and observable set of just laws for the good of ALL men]
So if they are under a set of deceptions ( their choice remember ) and many of us are not, then it follows this saga of beheadings and other vile atrocities will continue…….continue till what ?, 20 or 30 years ago I use to read of people being beheaded for their belief in Rev :20 v4 as far fetched, today I can see it coming to pass can you ?, here is the verse……
“And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshipped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.” (Revelation 20:4)
I will add a final thought here, you DON’T only need to be a Christian to be beheaded do you ? my thoughts are that it does not matter if you are atheist, agnostic, Christian, Jew, or calathumpian, pure Islam is a extreme danger to all of us especially western civilization.
I would say we ( all of us ) are the last days the bible talk about !, oh and by the way, the next time there is a large 9/11 event in the USA, I can gurrantee the USA will go into lock down and the 1st and 2nd amendments will go down the drain, anyone care to bet me I am wrong ?.
somehistory says
I agree, Wolfgang.
Worse times are on the way, very soon to arrive.
Wolfgang says
@somehistory
Thanks for the vote !
Rezali Mehil says
I really admire the consistent message …it is heart warming.
French, American, British , Australian…I mean it is awesome.
Your ability to pick the right leaders is just something that we in Islam could learn from. …but in Islam it is the Lion that wins…who needs donkeys for leaders.
In ten year from now the voices will be even quieter, as Muslim votes and leaders become ever more prominent.
Sharia will become more persistent ….in schools the 7 year old will come home and say …”mommy …I saw the writing in that book….Arabic and Koran….my teacher said …”I really want to learn it mummy…..I am scared if I don’t learn it ….I am the only whitie there mummy!!!”
Kufr all over the world… in ten years will have to make these decisions …because your leaders will continue to say …that the Religion of peace must be respected …at all times…in all places…in all buildings…including churches and kufr homes.
More Later….
Rezali
Beagle says
I hate it when I can’t point out much factually to dispute in your posts. It’s frustrating to say the least. Yes, our leaders are uniformly conducting jihad and daw’ah for Islam. I type it five times a day on average. I guess I should be glad you’ve confirmed it for me. Glad isn’t the feeling.
pongidae rex says
Great to hear other points of view on this site, intelligently expressed.
Ivan Bogdanov says
It wont last long. J_Poo will be back shortly.
More Later….
gravenimage says
I’m not sure I would consider the vile, sneering Rezali Mehil’s views “intelligently expressed”.
mariam rove says
Your ability to pick the right leaders is just something that we in Islam could learn from. …but in Islam it is the Lion that wins…who needs donkeys for leaders….
So you don’t admire your pedophile leader as much as you admire ours? Right? M
Champ says
So you don’t admire your pedophile leader as much as you admire ours? Right? M
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Spot on, Mariam!
ecosse1314 says
I finally get it RM. You are not a muzzie you are in fact one of us…an agent provocateur..in fact. You are showing us the true face of Islam so as to stiffen our resolve. You do great work and i urge you to continue. A few letters in the same vein to the msm and papers would really help as well. God bless you Rita Murphy.
Islamisdeath says
I always imagine you as a hideous alien life form contacting us from some disgusting smelly ooze, demonically laughing as you post. Sadistically cutting the head off a small child begging for mercy as you end each post.
Wellington says
Well said. Damn accurate. Don’t think it could have been said much better. My compliments, Islamisdeath.
Islamisdeath says
Thank you!
gravenimage says
Yes—spot on.
gravenimage says
The vicious Rezali Mehil wrote:
I really admire the consistent message …it is heart warming.
French, American, British , Australian…I mean it is awesome.
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More sneering from the ugly Rezali Mehil.
More:
Your ability to pick the right leaders is just something that we in Islam could learn from. …but in Islam it is the Lion that wins…who needs donkeys for leaders.
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“The Lion”—that’s what she considers her savager corelgionists who are beheading journalists and aid workers in the Islamic State…
More:
In ten year from now the voices will be even quieter, as Muslim votes and leaders become ever more prominent.
Sharia will become more persistent ….in schools the 7 year old will come home and say …”mommy …I saw the writing in that book….Arabic and Koran….my teacher said …”I really want to learn it mummy…..I am scared if I don’t learn it ….I am the only whitie there mummy!!!”
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And why would this little child be frightened? Because vicious Muslims threaten even small kids—and this sadistic Muslimah is *bragging about it*.
Of course this has nothing to do with her being “a whitie”—it would have to do with her *being an Infidel*.
More:
Kufr all over the world… in ten years will have to make these decisions …because your leaders will continue to say …that the Religion of peace must be respected …at all times…in all places…in all buildings…including churches and kufr homes.
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Despite her sneering tone, even this pious Muslimah realizes how absurd this is…
But our own “leaders” do not…
Don McKellar says
Spewing the same obvious falsehoods about the Islamic State must, he thinks, be important both at home and to try and appeal to the Arab countries the desperately want as part of the “coalition”.
Does he think this will appease the car burners and gang rapists that France has imported by the millions back home? After all, you don’t want to ruffle their feathers, now?
These “world leaders” have truely cemented their place in history as prize idiots over this ISIS crisis already — and it has barely started! Imagine the stupidity and money wasting and lying to come. What horrible future we all face unless we work harder to educate the mass of people so that they can start voting for real leaders. It is practically too late in some European countries as the moslem populations are reaching critical mass and the terror school mosque funding and buy out of MSM for propoganda by the Saudis (and others) has become overwhelming.
el-cid says
The positive development is that Islamic State is going to force the issue. It will soon cease to be acceptable for politicians and Muslims to simply claim that the Islamic State is “unislamic”. Even a fool can see through that double-talk. It is beginning to look stupid to everyone.
I believe we are soon to see real debate emerge and Robert will be the man of the hour. So-called “moderate” Muslims will be forced to take a stand regarding the pronouncements in their Koran. It will no longer be acceptable to call the truth sayers “islamophobes” or other made-up “crimes”.
Beagle says
I don’t know. While I do see an awakening in the comments of newspapers, the newspapers themselves are nearly as bad as ever. If anything many are redoubling their efforts at dissimulation and daw’ah for Islam. Seems like I flip on this issue every day or so depending on what I read. The apologetics for Islam industry is working three shifts a day.
Beagle says
IS is not a de jure state under the once-dominant international paradigm. Other nations have not recognized IS. But if controlling a chunk of territory the size of Belgium, enforcing sharia law, running all the public services, and defending its borders is not a de facto state, I have no idea what is.
pongidae rex says
Magical thinking has become the official western strategic policy towards Islamism. Trillions of dollars, tens of thousands dead and maimed, 12 years of war, and we have learned and accomplished absolutely nothing. At least when we confronted Communism we had men with balls like Dwight Eisenhower and Joe McCarthy who didn’t give a rat’s ass what Communists or Communist sympathizers thought of them. Now, western leaders act as if they are in a popularity contest with the enemy.
Neil Jennison says
That’s down to the malignancy that is eating away at western society, political correctness.
It is rendering us impotent and unable to defend our freedoms.
Mirren10 says
What utter nonsense this all is.
“World leaders vow to help Iraq fight Islamic State using ‘all means,’”
And what ‘all means’ would that be ? Clearly,* not* making sure that everyone has a clear and certain knowledge of the texts of the koran, the hadith, and the life of mohammed, which is the raison d’etre of all these mohammedan murderers, from the IS, Boko Haram. to all the rest of them. They don’t want us to know what all mohammedans want, the subjugation of the entire world under their foul cult.
The teachings of their foul religion is what motivates *all* of them, and until we get to grips with that, they, and their treasonous and wicked apologists, will continue to fool everyone who refuses to use their God given bull shit meter, and their God given common sense.
”The emergency conference in Paris — attended by 26 countries including key players in the region such as Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Lebanon and the United Arab Emirates — was a positive response to President Obama’s attempts to create a global alliance against the extremist group”
Yet more unbelievably **stupid** and **suicidal** crap. Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Lebanon and the United Arab Emirates are **all** Islamic states, who lust to bring sharia and islam to the entire West. The only reason they want ‘allies’ against IS, is that IS is not promoting their favourite brand of islam. And I would *bet*, that if IS continues to be the strong horse, they will **all** happily fall in line. With the possible exception of SA, who is terrified that the IS will destroy the Saudi royal family.
”Volunteer U.S. service members prepare one of several pallets of food and water before it is loaded onto an aircraft at a location in Southwest Asia on Aug. 11. The pallets are being airdropped to displaced Iraqis in the vicinity of Mt. Sinjar”
‘Displaced Iraqis’ ? Is this some sort of crap pc speak for **Yazidis** ?? Who are **not** mohammedans, but a minority sect, being murdered by **mohammedans** ? So, what ? Are they trying to pretend, and fool us, that the people on Mount Sinjar are in fact, poor mohammedans, and our sympathies should go to *them* ?
Yes, the Iraqis are murdering their own people, and why ? Because they are the **wrong sort of mohammedans**. The fact they are murdering Christians and Yazidis is something the ’emergency Conference in Paris’ would prefer not to acknowledge, and would prefer that the rest of us don’t notice.
Opening the meeting, French President Francois Hollande said the international threat posed by the militants required a global response.
”He urged western and Arab countries to engage “clearly, loyally and strongly at the side of the Iraqi authorities.” There was, he said, “no time to lose” in dealing with the threat. “Iraq’s combat against terrorism is also ours,” he said”
Again, utter bullshit, and deliberate obfuscation of what this is all about. Arab countries are **Islamic** countries. What we are being encouraged to do here is to pretend these ‘Arab countries’ are somehow against islam, the koran, and mohammed. Nothing could be further from the truth. mohammedans **all** want a caliphate, they **all** want the whole world to be subsumed under sharia, they *all* want the ‘whole world to be for allah’. Our traitorous ‘leaders’ are trying to fool us into to believing these countries don’t want what we, who are islamo-savvy, know **exactly** is, in fact, what they **do** want.
What, in God’s name, are they playing at ? How stupid do they think we are ?
Until ‘world leaders’, who are **not** mohammedan, understand and accept exactly what the mohammedan ‘holy’ texts say, accept that when those texts say they want to make the whole world for ‘allah’, and that means for shariah, that means exactly what mohammedans want, they will always be floundering, and putting us all at risk.
What utter fools they all are, if not something **worse**.
And my vote goes for something **worse**. No-one could be this stupid, they have *got* to be complicit.
God help all intelligent, islamo-savvy people everywhere. The time is coming when we will have to get out onto the streets, and **fight**.
Wellington says
Excellent post, Mirren. In complete agreement. The current crop of Western leaders are indeed either fools or something “worse,” but whichever it is the effect is the same, i.e., the jeopardization of virtually all of Western Civilization. I really despise the Obamas, the Kerrys, the Camerons, the Pope Francises, the Hollandes, et al. To hell with all of them. They’re idiots or traitors and where national security concerns are at stake, a la Ann Coulter, the difference is irrelevant.
On a completely different topic, I would be interested in your take on the independence effort going on in Scotland today. If you get the chance, let me know what you think. Take care, my fellow anti-jihadist friend.
Mirren10 says
Hi, Wellington.
Sorry to be so long in replying to you, but my husband is building a gazebo, so I’ve been wearing my errand boy and chief dogsbody hat for the past couple of days !
Scotland. Well, of course, we’ll find out tomorrow for sure.
I was up in Scotland visiting my mum a few weeks ago; she lives in a tiny Highland village. Judging from the number of Yes/No signs on people’s houses, I judged it was about half and half, although lots of people said to me they were undecided, and some seemed to feel ”better the devil you know”, whilst the Yes people seemed to me to be approaching the whole thing in a rather romantic, ‘Braveheart’ way.
As an ex-pat, I suppose my opinion isn’t really valid, but I do think if the vote goes Yes, Scotland will bitterly regret it. Reason being, Salmond is a die-hard lefty, who adores the EU, and if he gets a Yes vote, will lose no time in dragging Scotland into the Euro, which would be disastrous, as many Euro countries can state to their cost. Also disastrous for Scotland’s borders – I wouldn’t put it past Salmond to gleefully offer an open invitation to Turkish immigration.
Also, many people seem to think this referendum is simply a matter of being free of the ‘machinations of the wicked sassenachs’; they have *no* idea of what it will be like if Salmond gets the green light to drag Scotland further into the EU. It’s bad enough down here.
On the other hand, I can’t help thinking, if call me dave is so desperate for a No vote, that he’s offering all sorts of sugary carrot sticks, maybe it *might* be best for Scotland; just not with Soapy Salmond at the helm.
Anyway, by the time you come back to this thread, if you do, the decision will have been made, one way or t’other.
Apropos of something we discussed a while back; I don’t know if it was reported in the US, but the **Queen** actually came out with a statement that she ”hoped people would think very carefully, about the consequences for the future”. It’s been taken with some astonishment here, as the Queen isn’t of course, supposed to comment on politics. Funny she can speak up about possible Scots independence, but nary a peep out of her, about the **islamization** of her country !
What a parcel of rogues they **all** are.
Take care, my fellow anti-jihadist, and my best wishes for your wife, and her continued well-being.
Wellington says
Thank you so much, Mirren, for your informative anlaysis. I have been under the impression that Scotland going independent would be about as ill-considered a move as Quebec going independent. It would mean a separate defense structure, the costs of embassies abroad, floating all kinds of new bond issues, working out all kinds of nagging details with those whom you were formally in union with, etc.
I mean, what’s the damn point? After all, Scotland and Quebec could hardly be described as horribly repressed regions of the world. Quite the contrary in fact. Seems to me that sovereignty respecting Scotland and Quebec is more about hissy-fits than anything approaching true and enlightened patriotism. But then, we live in a very spoiled age, at least where the West is concerned, and thus Scots, Quebecers, Swedes, et al., are missing the BIGGER PICTURE, i.e., the resurgence of a most terrible beast that is coming for us all—–Islam. Put in this perspective, the Scots angling for independence pales in comparison to the true issue of our day, which is Islam’s design on all the West.
On a more specific note, is my understanding correct that the Scots, overall, are more to the left of center than the English are? If so, this does not bode well for Scoltand, for although the right gets things wrong with regularity, the left gets things wrong with more regularity. As an example, policital correctness and multiculturalism, twin idiocies which they surely are, are the creation of the left, not the right, although too many on the right have sheepihsly accepted this mostrous creation of the left. It’s why I have contended that, in the modern era and speaking in the aggregate, the left has lost its mind and the right has lots its guts.
My wife and I have been to England, and I on a previous excursion made my way around the magnificent Borders region (Jedburgh, Hadrian’s Wall and all that), but we both very much desire to see the Highlands and Western Isles. I figure we better since, between clueless British politicians and a resurgent, nasty and forever ungracious Islam, such storied places may not be what they long have been, which are bastions of the rebel in the human spirit, never better expressed virtually anywhere on earth than by those who have occupied these regions from the Picts onwards. After all, scenery, however magnificent, can only be added to where a tradition of a love of liberty compliments it. Unfortunately, the current crop of Western elites are shorting liberty and Islam is waiting in the wings to eradicate it. I guess my wife and I had better make it to the north of Scotland sooner rather than later.
Always good to hear from you. Take care, my British friend.
Mirren10 says
”On a more specific note, is my understanding correct that the Scots, overall, are more to the left of center than the English are?”
It’s a bit more convoluted than that. Lowlanders, especially around Clydeside, have always been ‘left’, in that there is a *very* strong Union/communist feeling; Jimmy Reid and all that.
The Highlands, being traditionally Catholic, apart from aberrations like the ‘Wee Frees’, and the Presbyterians, have always been far more ‘conservative’ (with a small ‘c’), although again, there is deep resentment on the part of many, against England, going back to the Clearances, which are perceived as having been down to wicked English absentee landlords. (shades of Ireland !)
But both right and left stances are very much complicated by the whole issue of Scots Nationalism, which has its roots in a lot of romantic hoo-hah based on the perceived wickedness of the English towards Scotland, going back to Bannockburn, Robert the Bruce, Wallace et al. You’d be surprised how many Scots deeply resent the English, and hold them responsible for much of Scotland’s ills, and what the Scots Nats see as the English theft of North Sea oil.
From listening to a lot of the debates, I certainly get the impression, that if the Scots can be convinced they won’t suffer economically, many of them *will* vote Yes, as they see it as Bonny wee Scotland cocking a snook at the English.
But, I could be entirely wrong. My impressions are perhaps coloured by the fact that most of my family (including my mum !) are rabid Scots Nationalists.
The outcome if Yes, will certainly be interesting ! Salmond has said if the vote is No, he will accept it, and not seek another referendum, but somehow I doubt he’ll stick to that …
Wellington says
Thanks for what you conveyed, Mirren. Well, we’ll know soon what the verdict is.
Neil Jennison says
I agree with your Scottish analysis, but I would just add one thing…..some of the remoter parts of Scotland are terrified of an independent Scotland run for, and by the Edinburgh/Glasgow belt.
I know Shetland is not tradionally Scottish at all but it is vehemently against separation.
gravenimage says
Mirren and Wellington, thank you for your views.
My grandmother was lowland Scots.
I know it doesn’t matter one way of the other to the outcome, but most Americans seem to want to see Scotland remain in the UK.
Daniel Triplett says
Excellent analysis Mirren. Agree 100%.
allahsucksass says
Its like saying Santa has nothing to do with Christmas.
somehistory says
They are, one and all, trying to give support to the *image* of the beast, which is islam, in order that more people believe the lie. The lie that islam is worship of a real god and is a cause of good things happening in the world. Fear, of what might happen if they are not supportive of the lie and image, is growing. But trying to appease the devil, satan, by engaging in blasphemy, will not help them and, in the end, they will all realize their big mistake.
Rob says
I understand that escapees from Nazi Germany brought reports of the death camps to Britain.
The reports were dismissed as too preposterous to be true.
You’d think that the text and video and ‘in the streets’ experience of Islam in the West would prevent the same dismissal of facts as in WW2.
Not so.
Hollande, Obama, Cameron and the rest of our non-leaders will have the same historical legacy as Chamberlain.
The only good part is the gains made by anti -Islamic migration parties in Holland, France and Sweden – and hopefully the UK, in the next general election – courtesy of UKIP.
voegelinian says
French Foreign Minister: Islamic State not “a state or representative of Islam” …
The Islamic State is neither Islamic, nor is it a state. Sound familiar? Another more famous Frenchman, arguably a (if not the) Godfather of Modern Leftardism, Voltaire wittily quipped:
The Holy Roman Empire is neither holy, nor Roman, nor an Empire!”
Wellington says
I don’t think the comparison is apt, voegelinian. The Holy Roman Empire by the 18th century, when Voltaire made that statement, really wasn’t at all holy, nor Roman, nor an empire (it was at least kind of holy, arguably Roman in the sense of universalism, and very much an empire back, say, in the days of Henry III). By contrast, the Islamic state is something of a state and very, very Islamic.
voegelinian says
Yes; the two statements are a neatly asymmetrical mirror-image.
Jaladhi says
And what about Mo/allah who cut throats of 800 Jews of Medina. Wasn’t Mo a Muslims?? Hey France you are cutting off the base of Islam – the inventor of Islam was not a Muslim should be a in headline tomorrow’s Le Monde!!
tpellow says
The ‘Islamic State is not Islamic’ mantra:
– seems to be orchestrated by global Islamic interests (e.g. the Organization of Islamic Cooperation).
And the West plays second fiddle.
DRHazard says
Meanwhile, in Saudi Arabia, a man is legally beheaded for practicing sorcery. It appears that more and more Muslims are getting Islam wrong.
Islamophlubbia is spreading.
fair_dinkum says
everyone except “moderate” moslems
Luciano says
The French ought to concentrate on their own ‘No Go’ (Zones Sensatives) throughout France. They are small caliphates in France where unbelievers dare not go. Neither will the police or emergency people!
Jackbo Godfrey says
“De Nile” aint a river in Egypt. It is a river in France!!!
Deny, deny, deny. Stick head in sand long enough and problem will go away.
All these “violent extremists” with mental problems. What is their neurosis???
Suffering from “Radical-Islam-mania” (unlike the rest of us “lunatics” suffering from “Islamophobia”).
Where is my airsickness bag right now.