Hamas-linked CAIR has a lot of nerve to make this demand while non-Muslims are being killed by the adherents of the Islamic State, avowedly in fulfillment of Qur’anic and Islamic imperatives, but the Hamas-linked CAIR thugs have never been short on chutzpah. Hamas-linked CAIR, whose Hamas links are of course not mentioned in this story, claimed he was…taking Qur’an verses out of context. In his own defense, Bennett “said he is not taking anything out of context because ISIS militants are using the Quran to carry out beheadings in Iraq and Syria and if they aren’t stopped, the same will happen here.”
Indeed. And what about the factual claims? Should he apologize for stating things that are true? “Bennett’s post reads in part, ‘The Quran clearly states that non-Muslims should be killed… Be wary of the individuals who claim to be “Muslim American”. Be especially wary if you’re a Christian.'”
Is that true? Does the Qur’an clearly state that non-Muslims should be killed? It does say to kill people who fight against the Muslims and have driven them out of lands: “Fight in the way of Allah against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! Allah loveth not aggressors. And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter” (2:190-191). That would include Israelis, who according to Islamic supremacist myth drove the Muslims out of their homes and seized their land in 1948.
The Qur’an also directs Muslims to kill those who joined the Muslims but then turn against them: “They long that ye should disbelieve even as they disbelieve, that ye may be upon a level (with them). So choose not friends from them till they forsake their homes in the way of Allah; if they turn back (to enmity) then take them and kill them wherever ye find them, and choose no friend nor helper from among them” (4:89). That would include those who are considered apostates from Islam and those who collaborate with perceived enemies of the Muslims — such as Muslims who aid America-backed regimes in Afghanistan and Iraq.
Muslims are also told in the Qur’an to kill idolaters: “Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful” (9:5). That would include pretty much everyone who is not a Muslim. And Muslims are to kill in battle (by beheading) those who don’t believe in Islam: “Now when ye meet in battle those who disbelieve, then it is smiting of the necks…” (47:4). There again, there is no qualifier — the directive is against non-Muslims in general.
There is also the option of subjugated dhimmi status for the “People of the Book” (cf. Qur’an 9:29), but does the Qur’an say, as Bennett says, that non-Muslims should be killed? Yes. Should non-Muslims “be wary of the individuals who claim to be ‘Muslim American'”? Well, let’s see. Would Bennett be justified in being wary of Dzhokhar and Tamerlan Tsarnaev, the Boston Marathon jihad murderers; Terry Loewen, the Muslim convert who wanted to cause “massive carnage” and be martyred “for Allah” by bombing the Wichita Mid-Continental Airport; Amine Mohamed El-Khalifi, the would-be jihad/martyrdom suicide bomber at the U.S. Capitol; Nidal Malik Hasan, the Fort Hood jihad mass murderer; Naser Abdo, the would-be second Fort Hood jihad mass murderer; Khalid Aldawsari, the would-be jihad mass murderer in Lubbock, Texas; Muhammad Hussain, the would-be jihad bomber in Baltimore; Mohamed Mohamud, the would-be jihad bomber in Portland; Faisal Shahzad, the would-be Times Square jihad mass-murderer; Abdulhakim Mujahid Muhammad, the Arkansas military recruiting station jihad murderer; Naveed Haq, the jihad mass murderer at the Jewish Community Center in Seattle; Mohammed Reza Taheri-Azar, the would-be jihad mass murderer in Chapel Hill, North Carolina; Ahmed Ferhani and Mohamed Mamdouh, who hatched a jihad plot to blow up a Manhattan synagogue; Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, the would-be Christmas airplane jihad bomber; or the many others like them who have plotted and/or committed mass murder in the name of Islam and are motivated by its texts and teachings, all in the U.S. in the last few years?
Hamas-linked CAIR would say no, because they repudiate and reject all that. However, there are several problems with this. CAIR is an unindicted co-conspirator in the HLF Hamas terror funding case — so named by the Justice Department. CAIR operatives have repeatedly refused to denounce Hamas and Hizballah as terrorist groups. Several former CAIR officials have been convicted of various crimes related to jihad terror. CAIR’s cofounder and longtime Board chairman (Omar Ahmad), as well as its chief spokesman (Ibrahim Hooper), have made Islamic supremacist statements. Its California chapter distributed a poster telling Muslims not to talk to the FBI. CAIR has opposed every anti-terror measure that has ever been proposed or implemented. As such, its claims to moderation, and its demand for an apology from Bennett, are extremely suspect.
In fact, this demand is just yet another attempt by Hamas-linked CAIR to demonize and marginalize anyone and everyone who dares oppose jihad terror.
“OK Lawmaker Accused Of Making Anti-Muslim Remarks,” by Lacie Lowry, News 9, September 4, 2014 (thanks to Jerk Chicken):
OKLAHOMA CITY – A controversial statement made on Facebook by a state lawmaker has outraged Muslims in Oklahoma.
The Islamic community demanded an apology after a state representative posted on Facebook to be “wary of Muslim Americans” and then shared a link about the ISIS brutality in the Middle East.
State Rep. John Bennett of Sequoyah wrote the comments on Monday night. Oklahoma’s Council on American-Islamic Relations called on Republican Party leaders to denounce the comments on Wednesday.
“I was really disappointed that someone who is elected to represent the people would put something so negative out there,” said Adam Soltani, CAIR-Oklahoma Executive Director.
CAIR-Oklahoma said it wants Representative Bennett to apologize for his comments.
Bennett’s post reads in part, “The Quran clearly states that non-Muslims should be killed… Be wary of the individuals who claim to be ‘Muslim American’. Be especially wary if you’re a Christian.”
“You can take verses out of the Bible or any other holy book out of context. They look good or they look bad depending on how you frame them,” Soltani said. “But the Holy Quran states that you take the life of one innocent person, it’s as if you took all of humanity.”
Bennett said he can say what he wants on his private Facebook page and he sticks by his comments. He said it is ironic a group that fights for First Amendment rights is trampling on his first amendment rights.
Bennett also said he is not taking anything out of context because ISIS militants are using the Quran to carry out beheadings in Iraq and Syria and if they aren’t stopped, the same will happen here.
CAIR has publicly condemned ISIS and called them an extremist group with ideals that are the antithesis of Islam.
“To tell fellow Oklahomans that they need to be wary of someone like myself, that’s concerning and that can only lead to what we fear would be hate crimes and Islamaphobia,” Soltani told News 9.
Soltani said Bennett’s idea that religious extremism is wrong is correct, but relating that to Islam in America is absolutely wrong.
Bennett told News 9 he is not advocating violence against anyone, but wants to educate people. He said he will only apologize if CAIR-Oklahoma condemns any Quran teachings that promote violence against non-Muslims.
Beagle says
If I ever hear in conversation “…meet my friend X, a Muslim who’s become increasingly devout…” I am running and diving behind the nearest solid object, not just being wary.
Transmaster says
All of what you say, and I would be prepared to put a 230 grain .45 caliber bullet right between his eyes.
voegelinian says
More appropriate would be for we Canaries in the Coalmine, this nucleus of the Anti-Islam Movement (which hasn’t been formed yet), the Counter-Jihad, to push the meme for our representatives whose job is to protect us to begin putting on the table for consideration Total Deportation of Muslims. I wonder if these JWers who bluster about shooting Muslims Wild West style would suddenly turn around and say in some absolutist manner that “we can’t deport all Muslims”. I’ve seen such a paradox so many times before, I am by now numbingly jaded about it. It’s no longer an anomalous paradox, in fact; it reflects the asymptotic psychology that compensates for its internal Denial of the full magnitude of the catastrophe which Muslims embody by blustering around in a micro way while counseling caution and piecemeal Too Little Too Late measures in a macro context.
voegelinian says
Yes; that’s why it should be a problem for government (this is not to rule out the local exigency of self-defense, of course, but no amount of individuals exercising their 2nd amendment rights is going to adequately manage the metastasizing problem of the war Muslims are waging on us).
Shane says
It seems like the most violent Muslims are the young converts who somehow got the idea that they should kill infidels to prove what good Muslims they are. Now where did they get that idea?
mortimer says
Politicians should ask Robert Spencer to phrase their statements so that they are able to defend them from unimpeachable Islamic sources.
That, however, will not please CAIR and other crypto-jihadists either, because their doctrines are revealed…which they are trying so desperately to conceal from Americans.
awake says
Agreed. Though factually correct, his statements lack an eloquence that would put them beyond reproach.
Hell, most regular JWers could have phrased the comments better than Bennett. That said, it was refreshing to read.
Memo to CAIR; Go Pound Sand!
Ken D says
It would be worthwhile to ask Mr.Soltani and his ilk how they define an “innocent” in this context.
(It means, of course, someone who is “innocent” of being a “disbeliever”, no?)
How many non-Muslim people manage to overlook this fundamental premise never ceases to amaze me.
It is similarly overlooked that, to a devout Muslim, “freedom” means the duty to worship, and NOT the notion of freedom to which Westerners subscribe- that is, freedom founded on individual rights.
These intellectuals (at CAIR, for example) make full use of these equivocations and it is time they were called out on them.
Robert’s comments lack finesse, but ideas like these need saying in some fashion.
Let’s hope he can do a little better in the future.
Ken D says
Err – I mean “Bennett” and not “Spencer” in the above post. I’m new here and got the players confused.
Apologies to Mr.Spencer.
John C. Barile says
There is nothing that infuriates me more that an Islamic spokesman citing–misquoting– Qur’an 5:32–and invariably twisting it–while omitting the the following verse, 5:33.
John C. Barile says
What they actually cite is the famous passage found in Book 4 of the Mishna–the Mishna and Gemara comprise the Talmud. The Qur’an appropriate this verse and stands it on its head, to pile the guilt of killing the whole of humanity upon the Jews.
jihad3tracker says
Hello John —
Herewith is lobbed an immense “Thank You” for mentioning the PROPER ORIGINAL SOURCE for that passage .
John C. Barile says
You’re very welcome. As best I can place it, thus:
Mishna Sanhedrin 4:5; Babylonian Talmud Tractate Sanhedrin 37a
Myxlplik says
CAIR doesn’t believe in free speech and discourse over its goal and Quranic mandate to kill and ethically cleanse apostates, hypocrites and non-believers during the imposition of Sharia Law over the American Contitution.
Well, CAIR, freedom of discourse is what will keep this country free, by exposing Islam…. wait but you know that, which is why they don’t believe in the freedom of discourse regarding Islam.
If you don’t like it, go to ISIL and let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
somehistory says
He should stand firm. Many will support the fact he told the truth. Don’t allow cair to take away freedom of speech. Freedom to speak was given by our Creator.
Hoekom Jy My Haat says
One must never apologise for telling the truth, regardless of how offended the perpetrators may be by it.
somehistory says
Totally agree.
dumbledoresarmy says
All US jihadwatchers here present, especially any who hail from the state of Oklahoma, should be sending Rep John Bennett emails, phone calls, postcards and letters thanking him for telling the plain unvarnished truth.
If you’re lucky enough to be one of his constituents, why not visit him in person?
And offer him a copy of Conor Cruise O’Brien’s classic article about Jihad, and the redoubled Jihad that we currently face.
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/the-lesson-of-algeria-islam-is-indivisible-1566770.html
CONOR CRUISE O’BRIEN
Friday 6 January 1995
The lesson of Algeria: Islam is indivisible
You might also like to explain to Rep Bennett the special Islamic meaning of the word “innocent”, which basically excludes all of us najis kuffar, because – qua infidel – we are all guilty! guilty! guilty! of refusing to become mohammedans, refusing to live under the sharia. Throw in an explanation of what it is, precisely, that orthodox Muslims mean by “peace”, and by “terrorism”, and then he will be able to see right through the apologists’ weaselwording.
Geraldo says
Completely agree with you. The One True God is loving, merciful, forgiving and gives freedom to all of its creation.
lebel says
What about the comment that Muslims and Islam are the same thing? for years, we kept hearing that we are against Islam and not Muslims
awake says
Agreed. See my comment above. His response was a bit inarticulate and open to attack, after all, Muslims are not monolithic in disposition or action.
voegelinian says
“All Muslims are not monolithic”; ah yes, I remember the halcyon days when Hugh held that silly meme up for his erudite ridicule. And yet so many JWers still hold to it like a precious amulet.
manuel-rafael says
CAIR IS the Moslem Brotherhood Hamas, Fatah, ISIS/IS/ISIL are part of the same Terror Coalition that is Qatar/Turkey/Pakistan and their diplomatic agent the Obama Emirship as the Captive United States, the stateless client state of the aforementioned Axis of deceit Genocide and total jihad.
PAthena says
Add (Corporal?) Lee Rigby, beheaded in London, England by an Islamic supremacist.
Diane Harvey says
Robert,
Your truth campaign is working effectively, if slowly. I read through the News 9 comments. A lot of people are really getting wise to Islam and the wily ways of Muslims.
Charles Martel says
The Quran itself tells non-Muslims to be wary of Muslims – and so does the Sunnah, the Shariah, and 1400 years of history.
Aardvark says
“You can take verses out of the Bible or any other holy book out of context. They look good or they look bad depending on how you frame them,” Soltani said. “But the Holy Quran states that you take the life of one innocent person, it’s as if you took all of humanity.”
No sooner the word than the deed! As John C. Barile pointed out above, the verse Soltani quotes is completely misleading when taken out of context.
But thanks to this site, and to members like John C. Barile, these lying mohammedans can no longer get away with this.
Geraldo says
Muslims need to be educated in the Holy Bible/New Testament teachings of Jesus Christ. They need to get familiar with the principles taught during the Sermon of the Mountain and concepts about loving your enemies and praying for those who persecute you. Jesus of Nazareth is the only way to heaven.
Edward says
Know Thy Nemeses, one Nemesis at a time:
http://www.answering-christianity.com/quran_ten_commandments.htm
The 6th commandment “Thou shalt not kill (or murder) Exodus 20:13
Hmm…The Islamic version has exceptions: “note their quotes”
“Nor take life – which God has made sacred – except for just cause. And if anyone is slain wrongfully, we have given his heir authority (to demand qisas or to forgive): but let him nor exceed bounds in the matter of taking life; for he is helped (by the Law).”The Shirah? “(The Noble Quran, 17:33)”
“On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel that if any one slew a person – unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land – it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people. Then although there came to them Our apostles with clear signs, yet, even after that, many of them continued to commit excesses in the land. (The Noble Quran, 5:32)”
Notice the following parts:
1- “…except for just cause…”
2- “…unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land…”
“They clearly prove that Allah Almighty definitely prohibits murder. Unjust killing of an innocent person is equivalent to terrorism and mass-slaughter (killing all or most people).”
“Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for God loveth not transgressors. (The Noble Quran, 2:190)”
“But if the enemy incline towards peace, do thou (also) incline towards peace, and trust in God: for He is One that heareth and knoweth (all things). (The Noble Quran, 8:61)”
http://www.answering-christianity.com/quran_moral_code.htm
The table on this webpage cites 195 Moral codes; 185 better than the Holy Bible’s 10 commandments, so they say. Last Code # 195 states: Do not be a bully! Ha…
This Quran content must belong to a moderate Moslem. Check out parts of the Code #90: The True Believers are:
[023:001] The believers must (eventually) win through,-
[023:005] Who abstain from sex,
[023:006] Except with those joined to them in the marriage bond, or (the captives) whom their right hands possess,- for (in their case) they are free from blame.
[023:007] But those whose desires exceed those limits are transgressors;-
[023:008] Those who faithfully observe their trusts and their covenants;
Oh Yes! The Moslems also invented the ‘LOOP-HOLD’……Don’i shew kno’!
Edward says
Yeah, it should’ve been LOOP-HOLE!
voegelinian says
The Koran is so full of loopholes, one sees after a while that its morality is fundamentally structured by the loophole clause — another reason to consider it a Satanic prank played upon God, creating a Reverse Bible, with the prankster using all his brainwashed slaves (submitters, Muslims) as dupes in the ghastly game he’s playing with lives and souls.
Nighthawk 81 says
The difference, as cited, basically is that we are against the religion itself and not the followers thereof. Kinda silly, from my point of view, but that’s the gist of it.
GP says
That is using taqiyya on the kaffir (the OK Rep). If that does not work then CAIR may have to splash around some of their Arab backed Oil wealth to insure that the mderate muslim message of peace and tolerance is touted.
Louise from Canada says
Again I will quote a sentence that I found out about two weeks ago and for my part it is what describes muslims:”WHEN YOU WANT TO INTRODUCE A LIE, YOU HAVE TO SILENCE THE TRUTH.” Also muslims are pushing harder these days and are becoming paranoid because they know that we are NOW aware of their false “peaceful” satanic barbaric ideology full of s… garbage.
David Hayden says
CAIR, More and more people are onto your deception. Hopefully, a free people will not be intimidated by your frivolous lawsuits anymore.
Ragai Mitry says
He should not apologize. He should go on the offense, and sue them for anything a smart lawyer can concoct, even if it doesn’t stick. I think the mood of the jurors in Oklahoma won’t be sympathetic to CAIR and their useful idiots. We can play lawfare too.
Dave J says
The Quran should be taught in high school under the heading of cultism, mass hypnosis and terrorism. Fair warning and no hiding from the facts.
Jerry says
The Qur’an should be made available in perforated roll edition printed on a suitably absorbent paper and freely distributed to the “Believers” as a convenient substitute for the three desert pebbles preferred by the Plunderer for Profit PBUH (p… be upon him).
mark jones says
Im glad mr.bennett spoke out against CAIR what he did is great
CAIR has ties to hamas its time we stopped CAIR from suppressing the truth
Western Canadian says
““You can take verses out of the Bible or any other holy book out of context. They look good or they look bad depending on how you frame them,” Soltani said. “But the Holy Quran states that you take the life of one innocent person, it’s as if you took all of humanity.””
Wrong on both points….. What a POS, but what else can you expect from islam (RTC)???
Brian Hoff says
In the Koran wasnot approval of beheading but than train mamul for fighting with sword on the battle field. Strikeing at the neck was than killing blow when the head was cut off. Armour5 back then didnot protect the neck too well compare to chest part of armour.
John M. Oda says
What really pisses me off is that, whenever a Muslim man comes to defend his religion, he always says “THERE ARE ONE AND HALF BILLION MUSLIMS IN THE WORLD”! Of course when you are allowed to marry more than one wife and whatever your right hand posses (which means ten, twenty, thirty or whatever your right hand possesses (وما ملكت أيمنكم )! So, obviously you will have no less than twenty or thirty children a year! Muslims BREED more than DOGS, PIGS AND RABBITS, all put together. Then, they always use the Arabic word (التقية) which is translated as (Dissimulation) which was preached to them by their Prophet, especially in war time! You will NEVER get the truth from Muslims! They lie like DOGS and they are allowed by their Prophet to do so! And then, their (Hamas-linked CAIR demands apology from Oklahoma State Rep who said “Quran clearly states that non-Muslims should be killed”)! One more big
(التقية)! Here is a verse from one of the renowned Muslim Scholars (Al Tabari) which I will print in both English and Arabic languages! Al Tabari: Says in the interpretation: (Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day and do not forbid what God and His Messenger, nor condemn the religion of truth (which to them is Islam) from those who were given the Book (who are Christians and Jews) until they pay tribute out of hand and are utterly subdued (Verse 29). Now, here it is in Arabic so the Muslims will not try to deny or defend it! تفسير الطبري: القول في تأويل قوله : قاتلوا الذين لا يؤمنون بالله ولا باليوم الآخر ولا يحرمون ما حرم الله ورسوله ولا يدينون دين الحق من الذين أوتوا الكتاب حتى يعطوا الجزية عن يد وهم صاغرون (سورة ٢٩).)!! I think I have said enough about Islam and their LYING PROPHET, I hope my Christian Brothers have learned something about Islam, the RELIGION OF PISS! This is the SHITT we have filled our BEAUTIFUL COUNTRY with! Shame on me, shame on all the Americans and SHAME ON THE GOVERNMENT AND THEIR F***CKN MUSLIM PRESIDENT! HE IS A PIECE OF SHITT AND WORTHLESS!!
Pathfinder0100 says
Oh, John M. Oda, So well put!! Thank you very much!!
Michael Copeland says
Adam Soltani says of Islamic State’s beheadings: “Their actions are inhumane, barbaric…”
Remember that Mohammed beheaded 600 helpless captives.
We can all quote Soltani’s assessment.
Anon says
keyword/keyphrase: “outraged Muslims”
profitsbeard says
The popular avoidance of actually opening and reading and pondering the Koran by the chattering class (politicians, academics, judges, lawyers, journalists, artists, writers, movie industry people, et al, who think their ‘progressive’ mindset is so superior it must be allowed lie to keep itself in surpemacy ), is a betrayal of the West and the shameful crime of this century by its ‘clercs’*.
*Ala “La Trahison Des Clercs”
Soxtory says
I believe 24% of the verses in the Koran urge the killing of non Muslims!
Godfrey Kemal says
John Bennett for President 2016!
Ralph says
Well; look at it this way… Genesis: 7 The angel of the Lord found Hagar near a spring in the desert; it was the spring that is beside the road to Shur. 8 And he said, “Hagar, slave of Sarai, where have you come from, and where are you going?”
“I’m running away from my mistress Sarai,” she answered.
9 Then the angel of the Lord told her, “Go back to your mistress and submit to her.” 10 The angel added, “I will increase your descendants so much that they will be too numerous to count.”
11 The angel of the Lord also said to her:
“You are now pregnant
and you will give birth to a son.
You shall name him Ishmael,[a]
for the Lord has heard of your misery.
12 He will be a wild donkey of a man;
his hand will be against everyone
and everyone’s hand against him,
and he will live in hostility
toward[b] all his brothers.”
13 She gave this name to the Lord who spoke to her: “You are the God who sees me,” for she said, “I have now seen[c] the One who sees me.” 14 That is why the well was called Beer Lahai Roi[d]; it is still there, between Kadesh and Bered.
15 So Hagar bore Abram a son, and Abram gave the name Ishmael to the son she had borne. 16 Abram was eighty-six years old when Hagar bore him Ishmael.
Pathfinder0100 says
Past time for all us us to tell CAIR “Kiss our ass”!!!!!!!!
TR says
Wake up People, It’s not isis or alqida It’s muslim period.
Edward says
Know Thy Nemeses, one Nemesis at a time!
“Carry the battle to them. Don’t let them bring it to you. Put them on the defensive and don’t ever apologize for anything”- Harry S. Truman
Harry (“Give them hell”) Truman’s doctrine; which urged to “Carry the battle to them” by which action did bring the Imperial Japanese forces to their knees. Yes the weapon of choice was devastating, but it took a show of our determination to end their resolve to dominate the world. This historical event happened in the mid 40’s
Truman’s doctrine use should be considered nowadays….for if we continue to pussy-foot this dangerous dilemma around politically (by our politically correctness that happens to be a culture killer) we will encourage the enemy to bring their jihadists to our door steps if we fail to re-discover his thoughts ….”Don’t let them bring it to you>”
“I never did give anybody hell. I just told the truth and they thought it was hell”
– Harry S. Truman http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_S._Truman
And with this God’s attribute (“I just told the truth”) it will play hell to those who use deception to be on top of their determination to destroy our western cultural ways.
By State Rep. John Bennett’s convictions, his words spoke the truth!
“In a time of universal deceit – telling the truth is a revolutionary act”- George Orwell
God Bless Israel, the matrix of our hope and morality!